Diary of a Madman; TitaniumTT's see you @ DGRRXI RE-REbuild

[vex]

Damn you and your projects that get completed in timely manners!

[TitaniumTT]

Yup :D

So I "tested" the Supra TT pump... unrestricted it will fill that 5 gal in about 3:05. It flows 97 gph or 367 lph :eek::willy_nilly::bowdown::drool5:

[helghast7]

hell yea dude, why do you think all the FD guys use them?

as the saying goes, that ive heard at least,....its the only the toyota built right

[TitaniumTT]

Wow, over a week since an update... ok, so here it goes in a quickie

Got the fuel cell working tip top. The old cosmo pump that I had actually turned out to be good. Tested right where it should've, 252lph @ 43.5 psi. Cool, so that's in the lift pump position, and the supra is in the surge tank position. So far everything seems to be awesome. I built a bunch of harness adapters and clear tubing to monitor V, A, and flow and it seems to be working as it should. The last little piece that I need to build is an overflow/recirc tank if you will that I plan to mount high where the spare tire once lived. I didn't really take into account thermal expansion when I designed the damn thing. The fuel is coming back hot, expanding in the tank, and puking out the vent. Bad.

The solution is about a gallon tank mounted above the cell itself. In theory the fuel can expand into that before it heads out of the vent. When the level in the tank falls, the fuel will siphon itself back into the cell. Hopefully that will cure the last of the woes with this little project.

Got the 4.3 Torsen swapped in yesterday as well as hauled the engine, cracked the pan off to remove the shims in the bypass valve. Pressure was WAY too high. FD reg + shimmed bypass + ported galleys, + o-ring sealed pump + cold 10w30 = 150psi cold!!! So the shims came out and everything is being buttoned back up. Also pulled the engine to FINALLY install the 6-spd. It'll be alot easier to mount the slave cylinder (that will be a modded S4 TII unit) with the engine/trans out of the car. Then stab it back in and build a mount.

I made a simple jig that fit's between the u-joints and the trans tunnel and the u-joints and the floor to position the trans/engine exactely where it was with the S5TII shit box trans. This way I should be able to get everything exactely where it wants to be.

I should have everything up and running in a few days. I was hoping to get a few hours in on the girl tonight, but the 13.5 hr work day had different plans. Tomorrow is out as well as it will be a 15+hr day.... ugh. maybe Sunday... I'm only expecting about 10 :rofl: Oh well, what can ya do except continue to bust ass.

If all goes well, Dyno on 8/7 and auto-x on 8/8..... fingers crossed ladies

[WE3RX7]

You better be there 8/7, lol.... none of this calling me the night before telling me you're not sure if the 'ol girl will get done in time ;)

I'll check with MC to see if he is good for that day too, I mentioned it to him but we hadn't firmed it up yet so I'll get back to him and see (if of course, he's not reading this thread)..

Oh, and thanks for all the annoying/dreadful research and work into fuel systems, I think you saved me several hours in my project when I go to do it... I'll start with a supra pump :)

[vex]

GL fellas I'll be getting laid that night (anniversary and all).

[TitaniumTT]

You better be there 8/7, lol.... none of this calling me the night before telling me you're not sure if the 'ol girl will get done in time ;)

Yeah, and she did get done in time didn't she..... alnighter and I got lost on a backroad set that I took a thousand times, but I still made it didn't I? It was the sticky corner seal that kept us from having fun. I've got all day Thursday set aside to do 3 hours of work plus build a tranny mount.

I'll check with MC to see if he is good for that day too, I mentioned it to him but we hadn't firmed it up yet so I'll get back to him and see (if of course, he's not reading this thread)..

That would be awesome, would be even better if you two made it to CT for an auto-x but I understand, the drive back and all.

Oh, and thanks for all the annoying/dreadful research and work into fuel systems, I think you saved me several hours in my project when I go to do it... I'll start with a supra pump :)

Supra pump is awesome. I'll never stray from Denso again... EVER.

GL fellas I'll be getting laid that night (anniversary and all).

Boost get's you laid, 400+ rwhp makes panties wet. This is fact ;)

Congrats man.

[Duffman692002]

Wait, you have an FD now? I gotsta go back and find where I left off on this baby. :D

[helghast7]

the FC LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now i just have to waste another weekend, borrow abdul's diff and bring the FD back to life!!

btw, kel wants to know when u have a free night to fix his exhaust, just let me know when u have a chance buddy

[TitaniumTT]

Wait, you have an FD now? I gotsta go back and find where I left off on this baby. :D

Yeah, picked it up last December......... where the hell have you been?

the FC LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

now i just have to waste another weekend, borrow abdul's diff and bring the FD back to life!!

btw, kel wants to know when u have a free night to fix his exhaust, just let me know when u have a chance buddy

Cool man. Get the FD back and up again...... then bring it to an auto-x in CT this sunday.....

Dunno, hopefully sometime next week. Actually going to try to hook up with Abdul on Monday and grab those seats from him. How close do the two of you live to each other?

[helghast7]

not crazy close but not all that far either, if you want to work something out with picking up stuff, i can always meet you at his house with the parts or whatever its not that big of a deal now that i have the work horse back on the road lol

just keep me posted

and as for the FD, yea im hoping to waste this weekend away swaping diffs, as for autocross, i would love to..but im super broke from paying off some bills :( sucks hardcore, cant do anything fun for a while

[EJayCe996]

Boost get's you laid, 400+ rwhp makes panties wet. This is fact ;)


Sorry about that... I didn't mean to piss myself

[MaczPayne]

I have to agree, those Denso pumps are beastly and silent creatures.

[TitaniumTT]

not crazy close but not all that far either, if you want to work something out with picking up stuff, i can always meet you at his house with the parts or whatever its not that big of a deal now that i have the work horse back on the road lol

just keep me posted

and as for the FD, yea im hoping to waste this weekend away swaping diffs, as for autocross, i would love to..but im super broke from paying off some bills :( sucks hardcore, cant do anything fun for a while

Come to Dave's on saturday and watch some hopeful dyno fun? That's free. Aside from gas, the local auto-x is $35.... damn good deal... I can't wait.

Sorry about that... I didn't mean to piss myself

:rofl: You know it's true.

I have to agree, those Denso pumps are beastly and silent creatures.

Yes they are. I will never stray again. I have a few bosch parts on my car, but no more fuel pumps. They do flow, but they are loud. I guess for a race car it doesn't really matter all that much but when you drop them in an AL fuel cell.... OMG do they resonate and sound like SHIT!

Denso all the way.... you're welcome Bill ;)

[helghast7]

aghhhh!!! damn if only i knew earlier, i planned this weekend to be a work weekend for the fd, doing the swap plus other little things as well as cleaning up the FC, as its been sitting for quite some time lol

this sucks, i miss all the fun stuff :(

but yea i mean like literally no funding, i planned out my weekly spending for the next 2-3 weeks...other then what i pay the snap-on guy, per week im alowed like 20 bucks to spend...and you know that 19 of them are going to gas :lol:

[2gslse]

Brian, I'm not gonna make it to Dave's sat gotta do some crap w/girlfriend in the am.
when you gonna do the coil testing? and you need to start the FD project soon also.

[TitaniumTT]

aghhhh!!! damn if only i knew earlier, i planned this weekend to be a work weekend for the fd, doing the swap plus other little things as well as cleaning up the FC, as its been sitting for quite some time lol

this sucks, i miss all the fun stuff :(

but yea i mean like literally no funding, i planned out my weekly spending for the next 2-3 weeks...other then what i pay the snap-on guy, per week im alowed like 20 bucks to spend...and you know that 19 of them are going to gas :lol:

There will be others and I didn't even make it to that one......

Brian, I'm not gonna make it to Dave's sat gotta do some crap w/girlfriend in the am.
when you gonna do the coil testing? and you need to start the FD project soon also.

No worries man, all ya missed was a bunch of time hanging out in the new shop and some awesome pie..... not hair or y, but what us notherners refer to as pie.....

I txted Bill..... I'm going to try for the 26th of Aug to be back there. Mainly because there is an HPDE @ pocono the next day, then the Carlisi memorial gig on the 28th, then an auto-x on the 29th. Not a bad way to spend 4 days. We'll see what happens I guess. That would be damn cool though. Almost worth the 10 days strait I'd have to work afterwards.

[helghast7]

oh ur going to the carlisi meet? me too! lol u wana meet up before we head out?

[2gslse]

I'm going to the Carlisi meet also, looks like a bunch of people are heading up there.
Bill told me about the dyno/shop that eve on his way home

[WE3RX7]

The carlisi meet is the thing you were telling me about right MC? If I'm gonna run up there with you, I dont know if I can make the 26th trip (sorry I didnt get back to ya Brian).... Wonder if I could wrap in a quick dyno on the 28th on the way to carlisi?? Hmm....

[TitaniumTT]

hmmmmm, is right. That would be pretty bitchin. I dunno what I'm going to be doing but if I'm heading to the Carlisi meet and the dyno and Pocono.... I'm either crashing @ Kyle's and taking up his garage or getting a hotel somewhere.... yeah hotel, I've reached the point were I don't do the Motel route. Not to mention I can usually slip the guy at the front desk a $20 to keep the 7 out front all night ;)

Lets see how next Thurs goes - day off, taking it as such, and my new d/s should be here by then so I can get the 6-spd in.... for the third time. Looks like I'm definately heading to the carlisi meet though which is pretty badass.

Dave, I'll let ya know what goes on as far as hooking up beforehand.... but I may be in PA for a few days prior

[Dazed and Rotarded]

I'd like to see the fd get on the ball...can't bitch much..mine's a dust collector at the moment..I know iknow..ima slacker.but I do only have 150 buck's in my fd ... complete. Rofl awsome huh?

[FC3S Murray]

:seeya: Hellooooooooooooo

[helghast7]

good to see another maggot^

oh btw i just picked up the diff on thursday

would have put it in this weekend but im busy with school this weekend :)

[Dazed and Rotarded]

Yes sir! Since 94.. lol

[helghast7]

well youve certainly beaten me by years..course in 94 i was 5 lmao!

[FC3S Murray]

good to see another maggot^


:69: ;)

[Dazed and Rotarded]

Wow...I'm old.. lol

[TitaniumTT]

Damn, three days without internet sucks :lol:

I'd like to see the fd get on the ball...can't bitch much..mine's a dust collector at the moment..I know iknow..ima slacker.but I do only have 150 buck's in my fd ... complete. Rofl awsome huh?

Yeah, me too actually. All she's been doing is collecting ..... rain..... I've got one or two, hopefully more big client projects infront of it. Not to mention I want to take 4-6 weeks off in March and drive 'cross country in the 'ole XJ, get back to CT and jump in the FC and drive back down to DGRR :rofl:

:seeya: Hellooooooooooooo

'Sup there hun.......... back from the dark side? Seen the light?? :smilielol5:

good to see another maggot^

oh btw i just picked up the diff on thursday

would have put it in this weekend but im busy with school this weekend :)

Lame, so I'm heading to Abdul's tomorrow to pick up them seats. I'll shoot ya a txt in the morning

Wow...I'm old.. lol

Bit your tongue damnit......... We're the same age.... or damn close to it anyway... I think you've got a few years on me...

So I called the driveshaft shop.... my new AL driveshaft shipped today :reddevil: Wednesday is dedicated to my sidejobs and the 'vert, Thrusday is dedicated to the Silver beast..... 6-spd baby then an auto-x on Sunday I hope :001_005:

[helghast7]

cool man let me know so we can figure everything out

[Dazed and Rotarded]

Hell yea.. gotta love jeep meets! I miss goin..lol.. and yessir.. we're getting old..my daughter turns 4 today and she's a big reminder..kids are great.

[Nismo]

Damn, three days without internet sucks :lol:

I would have thought you would have stayed longer at the Gay Hedonism!:leaving:

[2gslse]

Still on for the 26th? I am trying to get the day off but won't know till tues or wed for sure.

[helghast7]

dude!!! how the heck are ya?? havent talked in forevers!!

[Force13b]

Get back to work you lazy bum and get us some updates!

[TitaniumTT]

Been busy as all hell. Actually trailered the FC out to Daves this morning to tear apart the trans and figure out one last glitch. Left the car out there and we're working on it.

There's your update ;)

This trans will happen goddamnitalltohell. 3-4th we're so silky smooth and combined with the 4.3 rear, @ 2k in 3rd gear you step on the gas and the car just wanted to get up and GO!

Anywho, yeah, I've got a ton of pics of the trans, the mount, the custom slave, custom driveshaft etc etc etc. Yeah, it's pretty awesome, errr it will be when this last little problem gets solved.

[helghast7]

good to hear, i was going through withdrawal because you had us all going cold turkey with your updates lol

did you happen to see david hayes car there? or did they fix it already?

[TitaniumTT]

Not that I saw. I thought David was a Kilo Racing guy, did he convert?

Yeah I know about the updates. Between getting way too busy and having to walk away from the car before I shot it, updates have been few and far between. Sorry

I've got that "other" build thread to start for the 'vert too...... which has been ignored lately.

[2gslse]

David had a problem with his radiator while he was in Pa. for the carlisi meet (that you should have been at) I believe he was able to epoxy the leak and drive back down to Lorton Va. for the auto train back to Florida.

[TitaniumTT]

Ah, cool.
Yeah I know, I should've been there for that meet, even if it was with my truck. I just couldn't get away from work though. Absolutley sucked. You guys had awesome weather, I'm sure it was a blast. You should come up for the Rotary Factory meet in sept though

[helghast7]

you have another build thread??? dude put a link up! my internet ritual is, check fs sections on 7 club, check tuesday night thread on 8 club, check brians build thread on rcc, mail, fb sleep lmao! i dont wander from that path unless theres a very good reason :lol:

[TitaniumTT]

I've got another build, but not a thread about it yet. Calm yourself Dave, it's just the 'vert..... for which I still need to get out to you to snag that engine ;)

Nothing special this time around. Rebuild the N/A engine, Abdul's old rx8 seats.... which might actually go in on Sunday. Swap out the molding, the tails, the markers, Atihun hood, relocate the battery and replace with that miata one... by the way, where did you get that again? stereo, and go through the suspension this winter. If I start driving it alot, I may go for a TII/RE..... maybe a renisis swap, 6-spd trans (if we can make the other work.... which we will) and rear with a Torsen. If I do boost the girl, it'll be a W2A setup with a decent... probably a GT32 turbo. But that's getting ahead of myself. I'd want the FD done before that and who knows when that'll get done. Gotta get that torque curve to masturbate to posted up first ;)

[helghast7]

haha nice, i still get excited when you build cars :) doesnt matter how tuned down they supposedly are, you still shoot for the roof

and i have to look through my favorites i have i saved i just dont remember were i put it lol ill pm you the link when i find it

i actually like the battery a lot, ive had it sit for a while, it completely died on me, i drove it around for a weekend and its now back to normal haha, not bad for a little battery

[WE3RX7]

I'm still living THROUGH Brian and his FC, lol. Between the other two FCs in my driveway, the nursery build out and the rx8.. my project book is full up til after October!

Looking forward to that vert build thread though!

[TitaniumTT]

haha nice, i still get excited when you build cars :) doesnt matter how tuned down they supposedly are, you still shoot for the roof

and i have to look through my favorites i have i saved i just dont remember were i put it lol ill pm you the link when i find it

i actually like the battery a lot, ive had it sit for a while, it completely died on me, i drove it around for a weekend and its now back to normal haha, not bad for a little battery

That's good to know about the battery. I've had nothing but problems with my current Optima. in fact, they're going to replace it under warranty. SHould've remembered to take it with me when I left the car @ Dave's. Oh well, what can ya do? Definately going to be putting one in the 'vert.

Yeah yeah yeah Dave, egg me on a little with the build :smilielol5: It'll be de-tuned this time around. Ported, sweet exhaust etc etc. Nothing to outrageous. Should net ~150ish rwhp..... for now ;)

I'm still living THROUGH Brian and his FC, lol. Between the other two FCs in my driveway, the nursery build out and the rx8.. my project book is full up til after October!

Looking forward to that vert build thread though!

haahahahaha.... I guess I need to find someone to live my FD build through..... Dave, you up for it?

Bill, you, MC & I still need to pick a date when the FC is dyno ready and not just ready to be a dyno queen. You know, get up on her thrown and do nothing but pout all day as she usually does. I've got a list going - The Prissy Little Attention Whore Shit List as I've dubbed it. When that's done, we need to pick a date and get out there. Maybe the 25th? You guys can hang around for the Rotary Factory Meet?

I'll get the thread up this weekend hopefully. I've got a ton of errands to run today, then I'm going to pull the engine. Tomorrow is dedicated to installing the RX8 seats, and hopefully getting the interior back together? Doubt it though. I'm planning on a full 8 hours to do the seats, probably more. I love the RX8 seats, but they're a motherfucker to install. No, they don't just bolt in :rofl:

[helghast7]

Yeah yeah yeah Dave, egg me on a little with the build :smilielol5: It'll be de-tuned this time around. Ported, sweet exhaust etc etc. Nothing to outrageous. Should net ~150ish rwhp..... for now ;)
muhuhahahahaha yea for all of 1 day, then you drive it, your gona say to yourself "damn this fucker is slow" and then pull it all apart and do something crazy with it


haahahahaha.... I guess I need to find someone to live my FD build through..... Dave, you up for it?

mmmmmmmmm i love building FD's :) ive been itching to build another one, i just dont have the funds...ive kinda inadvertently discovered i have more fun building them then i do driving it :P

if im feeling very ambitious i might also take on an rb25det swap on another car for someone :)

Bill, you, MC & I still need to pick a date when the FC is dyno ready and not just ready to be a dyno queen. You know, get up on her thrown and do nothing but pout all day as she usually does. I've got a list going - The Prissy Little Attention Whore Shit List as I've dubbed it. When that's done, we need to pick a date and get out there. Maybe the 25th? You guys can hang around for the Rotary Factory Meet?

hey dont forget to add my car to that list, i dont want to drive it for fear of breaking something else :lol: , its bad enough i have to go for a retune

I love the RX8 seats, but they're a motherfucker to install. No, they don't just bolt in :rofl:


idk what your talking about mine bolted right in :lol:

[WE3RX7]

25th of Sept? Cant... got a BBQ that day, lol... I'm not sure when I'll have a weekend free honestly until after the new year!!

[TitaniumTT]

So I got a call from Dave yesterday, he's got the tranny all sorted out. He's probably got the thing back in the car already, and even if I have to hitch-hike, I'm getting out there tomorrow. So unless I'm to busy playing with my new, ah, shifter, I'll be able to update this thing with actual pics, and then hopefully an auto-z vid on Sunday... WOOT!

[TitaniumTT]

So yeah, Anyone in the area heading out to Daves tomorrow?

[vex]

Just one question B... What's an 'auto-z?'

I would but my car is going to the shop today and I'm not even in your state! :leaving:

[jtbshaw]

That's good news B. Glad to hear it's coming along. Finally got mine fired up and timing dialed in a little better...then the kinks started showing up. Cooling system adjustments this weekend FTW! Might actually move on its own power this weekend. WOOT!

[2gslse]

I cant make it just limped my truck home from vacation (major ps leak) post up some pics/progress and don't shoot it with the new toys.

[WE3RX7]

I would but my car is going to the shop today and I'm not even in your state! :leaving:

I'm not in his state either, but Dave's not in CT :)

Its only a 3hr56min drive from culpeper :)

[TitaniumTT]

Just one question B... What's an 'auto-z?'

It's that thing where the rotaries go out and smack some z's ass with thier own tranny :suspect: .......

I would but my car is going to the shop today and I'm not even in your state! :leaving:

Meh, good reason to do some traveling

That's good news B. Glad to hear it's coming along. Finally got mine fired up and timing dialed in a little better...then the kinks started showing up. Cooling system adjustments this weekend FTW! Might actually move on its own power this weekend. WOOT!

:lol: Kinks..... They never fully go away. It's really just an evil gremlin roving from one system to another trying to systematically break down your will to modify cars. When that little fucker has no place to hide, I'm going to catch him, and torture him for years as he has done to us. Good to hear though Todd, now make a build thread damnit.

I cant make it just limped my truck home from vacation (major ps leak) post up some pics/progress and don't shoot it with the new toys.

:smilielol5: Both of us were getting to that point. Sorry to hear about the PS pump though. Mine blew up in my Jeep a few years ago. The Napa lifetime replacements are tempting, but they suck balls. So far from Napa in thier lifetime replacement line I have bought 2 rad's, one ps pump, and one brake caliper... ALL have failed.

I'm not in his state either, but Dave's not in CT :)

Its only a 3hr56min drive from culpeper :)

Get the fuck on the rd then in about 2 hrs. I'm leaving in 3 so we should be there at about the same time..... ;)

[2gslse]

My pump is fine but I busted a return line and lost about a gallon of fluid from S.C. to Va. works ok but a pita to fill up every 40-50 miles or risk losing steering. waiting on a new line since my fittings rusted out but the good news is I think I'm gonna pick up another rotary

[TitaniumTT]

Ah, I see. I much better failure than the one I had. My PS pump started sounding like a supercharger. Thought, fuck it, I don't have the time, steering still works great, I'll deal with it when it becomes a problem. Well about a week later I'm driving up rt 57 which is a pretty bitchin backroad with about a one mile stretch of strait before a turnoff about 5 miles from my old house. Driving down the straight I see the car that was behind me, back off. I'm looking in the rearview and see what looks like trailing smoke.... thinking that's wierd... huh... I think I should check that out. I get to the end of the straight, go for the 135* turn and no PS at all... that's a TOUGH wheel to turn too, 31" mudders on a worm gear box BLOWS! A little offrd action becuase I couldn't make the turn and finally get to a safe spot. Open the hood, get a puff of smoke in the face, see PS fluid EVERYWHERE and the pulley, with the front bearing and shaft basically got ejected out of the pump body and was resting against the rad. Single serp belt, I wasn't going anywhere.

Lesson learned, or so I thought. About a year later the converter brick started rattling around. THought, whatever, I don't have the time, I'll fix it later. A week or so later the brick broke loose and plugged the exhaust, so far down on power it was embarassing.

[TitaniumTT]

So I figured that I wold wait until I had something to actually report before doing so........

THE 6-SPD IS IN AND WORKING LIKE A FUCKING TOP!!! One minor drivetrain vibration to work out and it's on the run right now.

The math and planning paid off WONDERFULLY. With a 7800 rpm, the top of 2nd is 60 mph and I can get there in LOW 4 seconds. The shifts from there out are right on top of each other, you don't have to bounce the engine of the rev limiter to stay in the peak powerband, the shifts are smooth... silky smooth, and the car pulls like a freight train.... it's incredible. I can't wait to get this bitch on the track.... 2 weeks from now.

So, here's what we got.... here's the super secret tranny in it's entirety compared with the stock Type-R shitbox. Length is the key here. It's been the length that has kept so many people from putting these trannies into 7's.

Comparision Shot

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8942&stc=1&d=1285601184

Here is the top of the Type-R box

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Here is the 6-spd

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The two things to note here are 1) the size and shape of the shifter top. The tunnel MUST be notched forward in order to accomodate the shifter tower. 2) That the shifter is off-center in comparision to the output shaft. The 6-spd is on center. This poses a problem when mounting the fucker as the shifter will be slightly off center in the tunnel. Nothing can be done about this and in fact, the tunnel needs to be notched towards the passenger side as well.

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Here is the 6-spd mounted up to the engine and ready to be stabbed in..... but wait, there is yet another problem that needs to be addresses here.... that's right, the slave cylinder. There have been a few of the stock RX8 trannies mated to 13-B's in the past and in talking to 2 of the people that have done this in race cars and REPU's, the RX8 slave will not mate up becuase of the oil filter pedastal. I was going to get a slave just becuase I generally have to see something for myself, but decided that it was an unnecessary $80 expense, so I went with plan A.

[TitaniumTT]

Plan A is to modify the slave cylinder to fit the RX8 bellhousing. The guys that I had spoken to built an adapter plate. Thier reasoning was that if the the slave ever failed, they could just buy a new slave and bolt it on. In looking at the bellhousing in the FC to begin with, I saw a problem with this. The bolts would be VERY difficult to get to. As you can see in the pic, it would shift the bolts farther forward, sure you could unbolt the plate, but I had a better idea. When slaves fail, they fail from seals. Very few times do the cylinders themselves go bad, so lets mod the fucking cylinder shall we?

Here we go, the bolt holes are close, but they won't work, the cylinder will extend too far and I was afraid of it leaking out.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8946&stc=1&d=1285601968

So I went ahead and cut the ears off of the stock TII slave and jigged the thing up to where I thought it should be. Bolted on one of the cut off ears and tack welded the thing on. Then I took it off, finished off the welding being CAREFUL not to penetrate the cylinder to the point where it would effect the seal.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8947&stc=1&d=1285601968


Bolted it back on and repeated for the forward facing ear.

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Tranny all bolted up with the slave and a new starter. I searched and searched for a starter before I decided to go with one from autobone. I know I know I fucking HATE autobone but.... all the other starters that I found even with my wholesale accounts were in the $2-300 range with a limited warranty. From 90 days for the most expensive bosch, to a 3 year for the napa unit. Theis POS from Auto-bone was something like $120 with a lifetime warranty. Now, I'm ignoring the Lifetime warranty arguement from Napa... everything that I have bought for my truck with a lifetime warranty from napa has failed, and failed FAST. Hopefully, this starter lasts a little longer than the average 7 months that the LIFETIME Napa parts seem to last. Time will tell

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8949&stc=1&d=1285601968

[TitaniumTT]

The next issue is of course a driveshaft. As you can see from the pictures, the stock TII shaft will not work. It's just a touch too long. Stock and the custom AL one I had built.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8950&stc=1&d=1285603231

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8951&stc=1&d=1285603231

Now lets mount the bitch up. Before I swapped the trans I took a BUNCH of measurements off the u-joints of the original shaft thinking that I would be using that. I took the measurements under the assumption that the stock shaft would fit. Obviously it didn't so all my measurements were useless. So when building the mount, I had to guess as to where the tranny would be. I was close, but close doesn't cut it when it comes to drivetrain vibrations, we'll get into that a little later on, probably tonight as I do need to get something else done today.

So the mounting. I didn't want to solid mount the trans and when looking through my cache of parts I came across a spare set of FC rear control arm bushings from Energy suspension. I went to my stock of steel and found some tube that the bushing would fit snuggly into... SCORE! Poly trans mounts :D

So, first thing is to build a mount to the chassis. Pretty easy to imagine how this will go together.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8952&stc=1&d=1285603231

Now the mount that goes between the two and bolts to the tranny was a little harder to built, but here's what we've got. Not bad and very strong

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8953&stc=1&d=1285603231

[TitaniumTT]

So, after I got the bitch installed and went for a drive, it was apparent that there was a problem with the tranny. I called Dave up and made arrangements for me to tow my prissy little attention whore down to him so he could figure out what was up with it. After a short amount of time I got a VM from him, happier than a little boy getting his first blowjob saying, Brian, we have a SHIFTING 6-SPD TRANNY!

So I got driven out there ASAP and here's the result. My prissy little attention whore awaiting her new implant

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8954&stc=1&d=1285603677

Good ass shot showing off the fuel cell :reddevil:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8955&stc=1&d=1285603677

Jordan getting the last few of the bolts in.... mainly just wanted a pic of the back of the shirt ;)

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8956&stc=1&d=1285603677

This pic was taken before the trans went back in.... can anyone see anything wrong with this? It was a source of the vibration and a reason that I wish I had built my own mounts and NOT bought the Banzai racing mounts. Kevin, if you're reading this, make sure that the angle of the mounts you're building offset the engine properly, AND get the angles proper.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8957&stc=1&d=1285603677

[TitaniumTT]

Got the bitch buttoned up, checked the fluids, got her on the grnd and went for a drive....... HOLLY FUCKING HELL does she pull HARD. The 6-spd shifted great, the car ran SMOOTH, the ratios in the trans were spot on and the 4.3 rear was an awesome addition as well........ there was only one problem.... drivetrain vib in 4th-6th around 60mph and up. It's exactely like my truck when unloaded and hard on the gas.... the angles of the drivetrain are wrong and the shaft/u-joints are out of snyc.

Remember that pic above showing the engine rotated? Banzai mounts, so... I busted out the hoist, pulled the cup out of the driveres side, shimmed the passenger side, rotated the drivers side to the bottome of the adjustment, and the passenger side to the top of the adjustment range and got it to .1* with the rest of the car. Cool, that pulled the shifter over a little more as well.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8958&stc=1&d=1285604652

Next problem was the angle relative to the pinion shaft. The pinion is offset to the passenger side in the FC. This means that the tranny needs to move over as well. Fuuuuuuuck, more notching of the tranny tunnel. Not very fun with a full interior but it's done and over with. Now, the tranny is so far over to the passenger that the original mount won't work. Not a big deal, build it once, I'll build it again. Now that's done.

Next problem is the angle of the engine trans. When I originally took my measurements they were off the u-joints becuase I though I was going to be re-using the orginal shaft. With that out I was forced to get it to where I though it should be.

Here's where it looks like it should be from the bottom. When I built my strut toer brace with the torque arm, these two points were lined up. They clearly aren't.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8959&stc=1&d=1285604652

So I adjusted and moved and got it closer, took this pic,

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8960&stc=1&d=1285604652

moved it some more and got it spot on. Pulled a few angles from the tranny output, the yokes on the driveshaft at both ends & the pinion flange. They were within what I had understood to be acceptable measurements, built the mount, factored in some movement, and went for a drive. What started out as a vibration that could shake teeth loose, is down to what feels like a truck with mud tires on the highway feels like.... a constant little hum. MUCH better, but still needs some adjusting. I'm almost out of room regarding moving the tranny, I MAY have to drop the pinion flange down some to get some angle back.

Next step is to find the centerline of the car and with some lazer lights and plumb-bobs, get the offset of output shaft, the driveshaft, and the pinion, as well as the angles relative to horizontal and send them off to my driveshaft guy. He'll throw all that info into Dana-Spicers computer and see what needs to go where to get rid of the vibe. Gut says that becuase the tranny is a little longer, the pinion needs to come down slighty. Guys who lift trucks are all to familiar with this, except they go the other way with thier pinions.

If all that fails, it looks like it'll be a double cardon steel driveshaft... which would really piss me off.

So, that's where we are now. This tranny ROCKS! Can't thank Dave and his crew @ Speed1 enough for thier efforts. Without them, this NEVER would've happened. Anyone who can build a custom tranny is tops in my book. Thanks again Dave, I owe ya huge! This thing kicks ass, I wish it weren't raining today.

[EJayCe996]

Just when I started to think that maybe you got too old to work on your car. Bravo ol chap, bravo :icon_tup:

[MaczPayne]

Wow. Can't wait to see how this does in the auto-x :D

[WE3RX7]

Horseshit! Thats all this is....













now, go build me one.

[TitaniumTT]

Just when I started to think that maybe you got too old to work on your car. Bravo ol chap, bravo :icon_tup:

:smilielol5: cute.... really cute but thank you

Wow. Can't wait to see how this does in the auto-x :D

Me neither. The thing should be damn near perfect.... 6-spd, 4.3 torsen, 400+rwhp, sequentials....

Horseshit! Thats all this is....













now, go build me one.

If you're serious, lemme know ;) You're on your own for mounting the motherfucker though..... Banzai mounts and all

[EJayCe996]

:smilielol5: cute.... really cute but thank you

If you're serious, lemme know ;) You're on your own for mounting the motherfucker though..... Banzai mounts and all

*bow*

Arg, if it wasn't for the trip to Sevenstock, alcohol and strippers for my birthday this past weekend, AND my car heading into the body shop. I'd be all over this right now.

[limbar85]

Got the bitch buttoned up, checked the fluids, got her on the grnd and went for a drive....... HOLLY FUCKING HELL does she pull HARD. The 6-spd shifted great, the car ran SMOOTH, the ratios in the trans were spot on and the 4.3 rear was an awesome addition as well........

I demand videos!

[vex]

B,

Would you mind taking some shots on how your exhaust is hung on the pretty, pretty, princess?

I need some motivation.

[Nismo]

Damn kind of happy I am building my own mounts! Thanks for the heads up, definitely high on the drivers side, or low on the passenger side... I will keep this in mind thanks for that Brian!

I will post pictures when I build mine in the new Fab Section.

[TitaniumTT]

*bow*

Arg, if it wasn't for the trip to Sevenstock, alcohol and strippers for my birthday this past weekend, AND my car heading into the body shop. I'd be all over this right now.

Meh, I think that we'll ALWAYS know how to build this tranny..... third time being the charm and all

I demand videos!

Oh I'll get some vid's up.... the kind where I dance around cones in the near future.

[TitaniumTT]

B,

Would you mind taking some shots on how your exhaust is hung on the pretty, pretty, princess?

I need some motivation.

Sure thing T, to be honest though, it's pretty close to stock....

Damn kind of happy I am building my own mounts! Thanks for the heads up, definitely high on the drivers side, or low on the passenger side... I will keep this in mind thanks for that Brian!

I will post pictures when I build mine in the new Fab Section.

no no no man.... Keep the pan LEVEL in the car. The problem with the Banzai mounts is they want to tweak the engine counter-clockwise as seen looking down the e-shaft from the front of the car and from looking down on the engine from the top of the car. The engine is in a position that is really counter-intuitive

[incubus]

Oh man. One day I'll read through all of this + your other build threads too. You're definitely my favorite builder that I've seen. Your car looks great. Keep up all the good work!

[Sharingan 19]

I've spent the last 3 days reading this (woulda been 2 if you had a secretary or a blackberry :lol:...) Simply AMAZING!

Big fan of custom stuff, but w/o welding skills I'm somewhat limited. I had a pretty good idea what I wanted to do when I resto-mod my car but thanks to this, I might have to re-evaluate that plan....time to look into some welding classes....as soon as I finish these other classes.

[jtbshaw]

Good work, as always, B. If I'm not mistaken, you will have to raise the pinion to accomadate the shorter shaft. Of course, just as you mentioned, this is coming from years of building rock crawlers and 4x4s.

And, before you say it...I'll get a build thread up soon with my chit. Just been travelling a good bit with work yo.

Todd B.

[Roen]

I'm so jealous I want to steal your keys, while pouring a gallon of halal hot sauce down your back.

[TitaniumTT]

Oh man. One day I'll read through all of this + your other build threads too. You're definitely my favorite builder that I've seen. Your car looks great. Keep up all the good work!

Thanks brother! I really appreciate it. How far did you get?

I've spent the last 3 days reading this (woulda been 2 if you had a secretary or a blackberry :lol:...) Simply AMAZING!

:rofl: I do have those... but I actually appreciate how my build threads turn into blogs.... I kinda like it.

Big fan of custom stuff, but w/o welding skills I'm somewhat limited. I had a pretty good idea what I wanted to do when I resto-mod my car but thanks to this, I might have to re-evaluate that plan....time to look into some welding classes....as soon as I finish these other classes.

I would really rec learning how to weld. I'm not sure classes are really needed though. I never took them. I was given a few quick lessons with a MIG welder when I was working as a mechanic. When I left that job and had some shit to weld up, I went to Sears and bought a welder. I literally burned that one up and finally bought a MillerMatic 175.

When I started the planning for this build I new that I wanted to do alot out of AL so I went out and bought the TIG welder. Plugged it in and went hog wild. I needed some help with that, no one I knew knows how to TIG so I bought a few books, did some research, spoke to a marine fabricator that we do some business with and stopped by his shop a few times and always re-directed the conversations... after that it was just practive practice practice.

Do it man, you won't regret it.

Good work, as always, B. If I'm not mistaken, you will have to raise the pinion to accomadate the shorter shaft. Of course, just as you mentioned, this is coming from years of building rock crawlers and 4x4s.

It's all sorts of wierd angles man. The tranny is longer, so the shaft is shorter..... it's bass ackwards from lifting a rig... or so I think. I dunno, I still need to get the digital angle finder out and get the data to send off to the driveshaft manifacturer.

And, before you say it...I'll get a build thread up soon with my chit. Just been travelling a good bit with work yo.

Todd B.

traveling for work is good stuff.... and yeah bro, you're right, I was about to say it :D See ya soon brotha

[Force13b]

Nice work there Bri your attention to detail is border line OCD

[EJayCe996]

Remember when we had that whole discussion about fuel pumps and noise? My friend with a full bridge 13b-re FC just primed his FULLY parallel twin Bosch 044 fuel system. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[TitaniumTT]

I'm so jealous I want to steal your keys, while pouring a gallon of halal hot sauce down your back.

haahahha... you should be jealous, there was an S5 TII at this weekends auto-x. He was traveling most of the course in 1st bouncing the thing off the rev limiter while I pulled out of the gate and was in 2nd before the first turn and stayed there the entire time :D It was epic... the ratios are fucking awesome!

Nice work there Bri your attention to detail is border line OCD

Borderline? Seriously?

Remember when we had that whole discussion about fuel pumps and noise? My friend with a full bridge 13b-re FC just primed his FULLY parallel twin Bosch 044 fuel system. :rofl::rofl::rofl:

So is he going to swap over to some Denso's?

:rofl::smilielol5::lol::smilielol5:

[EJayCe996]

So is he going to swap over to some Denso's?

:rofl::smilielol5::lol::smilielol5:

No, he's keeping it but he does believe the loping will be drowned out by the pumps :lol:

[TitaniumTT]

Fast forward to 2:30 and 10:00

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[TitaniumTT]

I was hoping to get this for Johnson showing all 6 gears but instead all we get is a bunch of wind noise.... but we do see how fast we get through the first 3 gears. Rev limiter is still set a little low, top of 2nd is 57, top of 3rd is 75 I think? Either way



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[Nismo]

Your car appears to be slow... What gives :D

[Force13b]

Borderline? Seriously?


well you are borderline heterosexual.

[MaczPayne]

Damn, really winds up fast with that trans! Must be an ass-tucker with the sequentials thrown into the mix!

[WE3RX7]

Meh - I'm thinking you need a 7spd and another 30hp. Those videos aren't enough to get the feel for it, guess you'll need to store the car at my place for a few months and think about it....

[TitaniumTT]

Your car appears to be slow... What gives :D

It's the whole car, it's a piece of poo. I give up with it.....

well you are borderline heterosexual.

Dude... that ONE time... ONE time and you came onto me! no wait..... I"LL KILL YOU!!!! ....no wait....... I'm way over that line my friend

Damn, really winds up fast with that trans! Must be an ass-tucker with the sequentials thrown into the mix!

It really is, the 4.3 rear helps alot as well. Even when I was running the stock trans the 4.3 helped a bunch, especially in 4th and 5th. I love the ratio's, they are perfect. Need to dial in the front suspension a little more. What are you running Johnson? And what are your auto-x alignments like? Hoping to make another event this weekend

Meh - I'm thinking you need a 7spd and another 30hp. Those videos aren't enough to get the feel for it, guess you'll need to store the car at my place for a few months and think about it....

I am looking for a place to store the girl for 3+ months starting around Decemnber..... but I may have to take the MoTeC with me ;)

[Force13b]

Dude where's your road trip?

[TitaniumTT]

Lounge my friend, in the lounge..... epic road trip.... can't miss it .... on the forum or in real life ;)

[Force13b]

Lounge my friend, in the lounge..... epic road trip.... can't miss it .... on the forum or in real life ;)

i guess the search feature doesn't search the lounge.

[MaczPayne]

It really is, the 4.3 rear helps alot as well. Even when I was running the stock trans the 4.3 helped a bunch, especially in 4th and 5th. I love the ratio's, they are perfect. Need to dial in the front suspension a little more. What are you running Johnson? And what are your auto-x alignments like? Hoping to make another event this weekend


I'm not running anything spectacular - 4.10 S4 TII rear, S5 TII trans. The auto-x's around here are typically 2nd gear courses and I've bounced of the red only a few times. I ran -2deg on the old car, and maybe -1 in the rear. I left the caster and toe alone at factory specs.

New car is getting a corner balance and alignment suited to road courses. I might change only a few things when I take it to an auto-x, but that's about it.

I'm not too concerned with fine adjustments yet, gotta work on my driving skills first, haha. I've come a long way since 5 years ago, that's for sure :)

[TitaniumTT]

I'm not running anything spectacular - 4.10 S4 TII rear, S5 TII trans. The auto-x's around here are typically 2nd gear courses and I've bounced of the red only a few times. I ran -2deg on the old car, and maybe -1 in the rear. I left the caster and toe alone at factory specs.

New car is getting a corner balance and alignment suited to road courses. I might change only a few things when I take it to an auto-x, but that's about it.

I'm not too concerned with fine adjustments yet, gotta work on my driving skills first, haha. I've come a long way since 5 years ago, that's for sure :)

Cool, thanks. I generally run a little more camber in the front, and a touch toe out front and rear.

What spring rates are you running and what for a sway bar? It seems as if my car is plowing a little.....

The courses around here are a little tighter. There are some you can get away with in first if your rev limit is high enough. I'll be interested to see what I can do this weekend if I can get the time off.

[MaczPayne]

I'm running no rear swaybar and the factory TII up front, as well as 8k F/ 6k R rates. I had good traction coming out of corners and turn-in was pretty good. This is of course just my impression haha.

[WE3RX7]

I am looking for a place to store the girl for 3+ months starting around Decemnber..... but I may have to take the MoTeC with me ;)

Nothing a haltech can't fix ;)

[TitaniumTT]

Yeah, and actually, haltech is trying so hard that they are actually using the same ECU connectors as MoTeC now...... take the driveshaft?

[WE3RX7]

I've got extra T2 shaft and tranny, lol... wont take but an hour to swap that back in there, lol....

You wouldnt want it just sitting for 3 months anyway... somebody would need to get in it, run it through the gears every few hours :)

[2gslse]

Count me in for torture testing too!!! maybe we can start the ignition coil testing while Brian is away. We may as well leave the car at my house since I don't have an FC to clutter up my driveway.

[EJayCe996]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwyOiSXyV1g

maybe you can't hear it over the car..... from the outside. :rofl:

[RotorDad]

I am looking for a place to store the girl for 3+ months starting around December..... but I may have to take the MoTeC with me ;)

What's the deal, no room for it?

[2gslse]

last year he had the bright idea of taking the car apart for restoration at thanksgiving and be ready for DGRRX but had too many other projects on his plate to finish it on time

[TitaniumTT]

What's the deal, no room for it?

That's part of it, but I can always make room

last year he had the bright idea of taking the car apart for restoration at thanksgiving and be ready for DGRRX but had too many other projects on his plate to finish it on time

Yup, thatas the real reason, a mistake that I don't intend to make again.

[RX-7 Chris]

Cool car in person

[FC3S Murray]

Stop with all this chit chat and show some recent pictures of your FC you big pussy!

[TitaniumTT]

Giggity Giggity BUMP!!!!!!!

Instead of starting a new thread... we're gonna continue on with this one because it was never really finished :lol: ... I'm just gonna change the title of it to reflect the new years DGRRXI and the new to-do list in order to get her ready for the Rally....

So .... here's the list... and some recent pics to follow... of a ROTARY powered car on ROTARY CAR CLUB.... big LSwhatever pussy :smilielol5:

1) Repair, refinsih front bumper
2) Repair, refinish hood and add "grill"
3) Refinish both doors
4) New spark plug wires
5) Belly pan
6) New front tow hooks
7) Redo some of the HMIC ducting
8) Re-powdercoat HMIC frame.
9) New T-stat housing with -20 outlet
10) Weld on -20 outlet to radiator
11) Re-powdercoat waterpump housing
12) Refinish strut tower brace
13) New brake master cylinder :suspect:
14) New front brakes :suspect:
15) New rear brakes :suspect:
16) New Wilwood Prop Valve/Splitter
17) Touch myself
18) New clutch master cylinder :suspect:
19) Ducting for front brakes
20) Repair/Replace wiper switch
21) New washer fluid bottle
22) Washer sprayers in the cowl
23) Mount the 12V outlet
24) CupHolders!!!!
25) Custom Trigger wheels for the rear wheel speed sensors
26) Re-do the DP with a vac outlet
27) Catch can/seperator for the crankcase
28) Install second EGT probe
29) Port Wastegate
30) Cermaic Coat the manifold, snails, centersection, charge pipes
31) Rear bumper guards or new S5 rear bumper
32) Adjust rear hatch release
33) Passenger side door lock
34) Install hardwires for battery maintainer
35) INVERTER!!!
36) Anti-rice cannons
37) Fuel Cell overflow
38) New gaskets for fuel cell
39) Buff, Glaze and wax
40) Touch myself.... again.
41) Reupholster the center console arm rest
42) Figure out why the remote start isn't working
43) Almost forgot... 6-spd!! yeah again :rofl:

Pretty sure that's it.... soooooo it's time to get started.... after I finish the diesel swap in my buddies CUCV and the fucking adjuster FINALLY gets here on Monday... oddly enough I plan on having the CUCV running by 11:00 Monday morning which is exactely when the adjuster is supposed to be here. So as soon as he's gone, I can get the girl up on stands and start tearing into her!!! WEEEEE!!!!!!

[MaczPayne]

Geeeeeeeeeeeez

[TitaniumTT]

Yup. And by the time I start, I'll have a mere 100 days.... weeeeee!!!!!! I think DJ and I need to keep track of how much RedBull we each drink :smilielol5:

[helghast7]

dayum dude,

whats wrong with your front calipers? i just found out that one piston in each of my fronts is sticking on the fc...so i need new ones fml

let me know how the repair goes on the wiper switch, if you can do it and its not a 100% pita ill send you over a couple...one for me since mines broke...and the rest you can sell to people that have the same issues lol

i bought like 2 spares and they all have the same damn problem :( lol

intermidiate doesnt work and washer barely works...but speed 1 and 2 both work...idk lol

[djmtsu]

Yup. And by the time I start, I'll have a mere 100 days.... weeeeee!!!!!! I think DJ and I need to keep track of how much RedBull we each drink :smilielol5:

I am not a super fan of Red Bull (don't hate) but I do love me some coffee! Too bad I'll be taking piss breaks every 5 minutes!

[WE3RX7]

Hmmm... something his missing from that list.

Also, can you explain #36?

[TitaniumTT]

dayum dude,

whats wrong with your front calipers? i just found out that one piston in each of my fronts is sticking on the fc...so i need new ones fml

let me know how the repair goes on the wiper switch, if you can do it and its not a 100% pita ill send you over a couple...one for me since mines broke...and the rest you can sell to people that have the same issues lol

i bought like 2 spares and they all have the same damn problem :( lol

intermidiate doesnt work and washer barely works...but speed 1 and 2 both work...idk lol

The whole braking system needs to be re-evaluated. After driving the dragon 3 times in a row the brakes started fading big time. So it's time to address it.

I may need to grab those switchs from you as mine completely failed. I had to de-pin some of the harness and run it to an on-off-mom on switch and ground the common pin. So for the last 2 years I've been driving around with a toggle switch for my wipers. Not the most important thing in the world but it does piss me off..... alot.

I am not a super fan of Red Bull (don't hate) but I do love me some coffee! Too bad I'll be taking piss breaks every 5 minutes!

I love my coffee too, have a few cups every morning but it just doesn't do it for me anymore late at night. Keep track of lbs of beans :rofl:

[TitaniumTT]

Hmmm... something his missing from that list.

Also, can you explain #36?

#36 - paintball guns mounted in the front bumper :D

What's missing? Single turbo swap? I don't think I have the time for that before DGRRXI. I'll assemble a Cosmo over the summer and start building the manifold and make it a drop in affair so the car's not down for a few months over the summer.

So what's missing? Besides Center Console arm rest, fix remote start? Which have been added

[helghast7]

no problem, ive got at least 2 i think lying around somewere, when i find them ill let you know

its such a pita that they go bad, stupid 23 year old relays lol, even worse at how expensive the switches are, lucky for me, speed 1 still works, but if i click down for mist and let go half the time the wipers get stuck in whatever position they were just in..and intermittent stopped working all together

lmao about the paintball gun thing, if ya had the room that would be sick to have them pop up from the hood, going in paint blazing!!

[TitaniumTT]

That would be awesome man, as mine is totally fucked and I don't have a spare. I'm sure we can work something out ;)

I'm only kidding about the paintball guns, a few years ago when the population in SW CT boomed, people were just total assholes, now they're only 1/2 assholes so they're not really needed ..... as much :rofl:

[hades]

VGT - do it.

[TitaniumTT]

I will, just whether or not it'll be on in time for DGRRXI is a totally seperate question.

[helghast7]

see what drives me nuts about turbos is i once read about a turbo being developed similar to what your looking into except they designed it more like the way a fighter jet vectors its thrusters, but ever since then i cant find any information about it, it literally had moving plates that channeled the exhaust gases in the dp

i wish i new what happened to it, it seemed like a very promising idea

[hades]

I will, just whether or not it'll be on in time for DGRRXI is a totally seperate question.

don't be a pussy....just drink more red bull and fire up the tig

[TitaniumTT]

see what drives me nuts about turbos is i once read about a turbo being developed similar to what your looking into except they designed it more like the way a fighter jet vectors its thrusters, but ever since then i cant find any information about it, it literally had moving plates that channeled the exhaust gases in the dp

i wish i new what happened to it, it seemed like a very promising idea

I think I know what you're talking about. It wasn't in the DP though, and if that's the one you're talking about, that's the one I'll be putting on the ole' FC.

don't be a pussy....just drink more red bull and fire up the tig

:rofl: Ya gotta love RCC, the only forum I know of where you can waltz into an Admins build thread, call him a pussy, and get laughed at..... don't push it though... pussy :rofl::smash:

You just want me to do it so that you can get a 14 hr ride in it ;) I'm not sure if I'll have the time. I might call this guy and see if I can commission him to build one for me. Once I get all the important shit squared away, I'll start focusing on it, that's for damn sure.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs276.ash1/20361_758729682710_23900780_42260629_2751536_n.jpg

[mazpower]

I vote for detailed pictures of #17, for um, "technical" reasons :rofl:

[helghast7]

I think I know what you're talking about. It wasn't in the DP though, and if that's the one you're talking about, that's the one I'll be putting on the ole' FC.



:rofl: Ya gotta love RCC, the only forum I know of where you can waltz into an Admins build thread, call him a pussy, and get laughed at..... don't push it though... pussy :rofl::smash:

You just want me to do it so that you can get a 14 hr ride in it ;) I'm not sure if I'll have the time. I might call this guy and see if I can commission him to build one for me. Once I get all the important shit squared away, I'll start focusing on it, that's for damn sure.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs276.ash1/20361_758729682710_23900780_42260629_2751536_n.jpg

yea i wasnt quite sure were exactly it was, i no it was different then all the other ones we've talked about it the past though, i only ever saw one picture of it and it was one of those pictures of just the turbo with nothing attached to it...so i guess i broke the rules and assumed haha

lmao!! oh my god did bdc make that?!?!

[hades]

are you tearing down the motor again?

[TitaniumTT]

I've got to pull it to do some touch up paint work in the engine bay. And I've got to pull the turbo's to port the wastegate. When I do that I'll take the mani off and see what kind of shape the sleeve is in. If the sleeve is solid, I won't. If the sleeve seems loose or if it shifted at all, or if there are signs of an exhaust leak, they yes, motor comes apart again. I've got one good REW housing, so if the sleeve is in bad shape I'll either need to find a comparable REW housing, a comparable RE housing, or take 2 of my n/a housings to Goopy for that resurfacing treatment.

As of right now though, the only things that I need to do to the engine are re-work the harness slightly to add a fuel temp sensor, and change out the intake mani gaskets. Mazdatrix didn't have them in stock so I had to re-use the old ones.... it bothers me.

[TitaniumTT]

I vote for detailed pictures of #17, for um, "technical" reasons :rofl:

:smilielol5:

yea i wasnt quite sure were exactly it was, i no it was different then all the other ones we've talked about it the past though, i only ever saw one picture of it and it was one of those pictures of just the turbo with nothing attached to it...so i guess i broke the rules and assumed haha

Yup, the one I'm looking at accomplishes the same thing, but goes about it in a very different way. One that I think will work better given the rotaries heat. So we'll see. I'd love to have it in for DGRRXI, but time will probably be against me.

lmao!! oh my god did bdc make that?!?!

Someone from handuhtech... bdc can't weld at all last I heard. That is probably one of the worst welding jobs I've EVER seen though.

[hades]

why are you worried about fuel temp?

[TitaniumTT]

Curious more than anything. Plus there is a seperate comp table that I can use to compensate for high fuel temps. Thought being hot fuel expands, less actual molecules, potential to run lean etc etc. Not a big deal unless you're on the ragged edge of the tune, which I'm not, but still I'm curious to see where it goes.

Oh yeah, forgot to add, when I pull the exhaust mani, I've got to add in an EGT probe.

[TitaniumTT]

Soooooooo... We finally got that CUCV up and running and I was finally able to start on the FC. First thing.... put the list up on the wall :smilielol5:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9577&stc=1&d=1296193051

If anybody uses an Optima battery, they know that they like to die, and die fast when left to thier own demise. I've got a batter cut off switch so that when the switch is turned off, the only circuits with power are the alarm, horn, PW, PDL, and the radio memory. If she sits for a few weeks, the battery is stone dead. Sooooooo, after getting one replaced on warranty I picked up this little gem and mounted it on the wall.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9578&stc=1&d=1296193051

Now, how to connect it to the car? Well, the little kit comes with an adapter that has a pair of aligator clips on them. Ok, maybe.... but that means I need to put the passenger seat forward, pull the lid off the storage bin lid, lean in, clamp them on, hope they don't fall off etc etc etc. Royal PITA. luckily, they have a little adapter that you can hardwire to the battery. Cool shit, it even has a little fuse there. 15A, interesting but I'm not going to argue or try to reinvent it.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9579&stc=1&d=1296193051

I've got my battery mounted in the passenger side bin, and mounted rather snugly. I've got a powerpost in plain view for the various grounds, to bat, to chassis, to jumper, to amp, to fuel pump, and now to charger... cool. Coming off the battery I've got a 2ga cable that runs right to that main breaker. From there it goes to the remote bat switch and splits from there to go to a bunch of different places. So, seeing as how this is already fused, the best place to wire it up is going to be on the line side of the main breaker. One of my BIGGEST complaints about other peoples wiring is when they stack shit on battery terminals. I fucking hate it. I've seen boats sink becuase of it, fires almost start etc etc etc.... One of my rules is one cable per terminal. So it's going on the breaker

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9580&stc=1&d=1296193051

And here is the connector mounted on a little bracket that I threw together.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9581&stc=1&d=1296193051

[TitaniumTT]

I mounted it near the battery on the fiberglass uprights. If that fuse blows, it's going to be a royal PITA to change it. I'd much rather be able to easiy get to it rather than take the battery out, maybe even the fiberglass.... so were going to mount up a 15A marine breaker that I happened to have kicking around. I would've rather used a push-button breaker but I didn't have one, and the chandlery store was closed, waytek, terminal supply, delcity etc etc would've been a few days out so I said fuck it and used the breaker. If the carpet trips it I'll either get a shield for it or swap it out. I don't see it being a problem when the connector is plugged it.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9582&stc=1&d=1296193469

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9583&stc=1&d=1296193469

and there it is plugged in.... weeeeeee I finally got something done :ugh2:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9584&stc=1&d=1296193469

[TitaniumTT]

Just for fun.... we were supposed to get 5-8" of snow. Finally tally that I measured was 17".... way to go guys. Regardless.... 3 hours of shoveling so I could get the FC out to make it to the dyno on Saturday... hint hint hint.....

That little mound over there is the 'vert under a car cover. It'll be MONTHS before that pile melts to get that car out... damn..

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9585&stc=1&d=1296193943

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Last night I figured I'd do a little on the FC, then move some cars around and get my truck off the street. By the time I was in a position to get the FC out, there was already 6+" on the ground. I wasn't about to shovel that shit out, couldn't if I wanted to, was coming down to fast, so she sat on the street overnight, and of course I got plowed in. I LOVE this truck, all I did was toss her in 4-hi, rocked back once, and drove out. Then I went down to the beach to play around in some un-plowed parking lots. I tried to get the thing stuck and I couldn't.... I love my XJ.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9587&stc=1&d=1296193943

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9588&stc=1&d=1296193943

[speedjunkie]

Dude, this may sound weird coming from someone that lives in Colorado, but I'm SO glad I don't live where you live LOL!!!

[MaczPayne]

Why is 'Touch Myself' only listed once? :D

[blackedoutFC3S]

Maybe going through this whole thread in one night was crazy... Mmm definitely not. Your car is amazing TTT, the work and dedication are something so few owners have with FC's, glad to see there's people out there still willing to take them all the way. Great build up brotha, I'll definitely be stickin' around this thread to see what else is happening! Love the fab!

[TitaniumTT]

Dude, this may sound weird coming from someone that lives in Colorado, but I'm SO glad I don't live where you live LOL!!!

:rofl: I know, that mound is still behind the 'vert, there's still lanes missing downtown... fucking blows. Oh well, what can ya do.

Why is 'Touch Myself' only listed once? :D

There will be multiple crosses on that before the build is done.

Maybe going through this whole thread in one night was crazy... Mmm definitely not. Your car is amazing TTT, the work and dedication are something so few owners have with FC's, glad to see there's people out there still willing to take them all the way. Great build up brotha, I'll definitely be stickin' around this thread to see what else is happening! Love the fab!

Thanks man, I appreciate it! There will be a ton of shit in the coming weeks for sho!


So I figured I'd bump this thread with what I've done to the car in the past three weeks

First was some playtime on the dyno,
Then I repainted the hood after an unfortuneate incident with an engine hoist and some rocks at high rates of speed.

Then

















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It.
















And that's about it.... the RX7's vehicular nemisis is taking up too much time, I'll get some pics up of that motherfucker tomorrow. The big push is to get this done in the next 3 weeks so I can rock on the FC before we start getting really busy at work around April...... tight tight as always

[Force13b]

Brian what ever happened to the great coil dyno off?

[TitaniumTT]

It's taking place in smaller stages. So far we've pitted the Bosch coils against a $1500 M&W ignition system and then against the Quicksilver coils.

The M&W setup gained about 3hp over the Boschs across the board, but the idle sucked balls. Regardless of what we did, including mult-stike, I couldn't get a decent idle. THe Bosch's idled the car perfectly with a 0 (Zero as in nothing) dwell time and didn't start misfiring until about 3k.

The quicksilver coils impressed the hell out of me. We we're tuning my car when we started running out of time so she was running WAY rich, which is a good comparision in one way. The Bosch's were getting a little breakup up high and still putting down 380 rwhp. Bolted the quicksilvers on and the breakup went away, and she picked up 4hp up high where we were getting the breakup. BUT, there was no difference in the low to mid ranges where there was no breakup. They are a STOUT coil. I was running those with a 3.5ms Dwell time as Chris Ludwig told me to do, he loves these coils and rightfully so, the Bosch coils where set to 2.4ms. So I'd be curious as to if increasing the dwell time would get rid of the break-up.... didn't think of that until after the fact though.... oh well. I still love my Boschs becuase they are so damn small and need such little dwell time. I would love to get the car dialed in and go back and test the Bosch vs the Quicksilver again because I think they are that close. The Quicksilvers I think would be an upgrade to the Boschs if you're running water or meth or you're like bdc and think that running .7L is safe :rolleyes:

Now, we also had two RX8's there. One running LS2 coils, the other running the Quicksilver coils. LS2 coils put down 187, Quicksilver car put down 194. Different cars so not really a good test, but I will say I contacted BHR about 'renting' a set of LS2 coils for this test. I told them I would give them all the data I have so they can publish it on their website so they can show an increase in RWHP with the RX8 coils vs the LS2 coils. They told me flat out that they already dyno'ed them back to back and they intentionally did not post the results. That to me tells me that the difference in RWHP between the RX8 coils and the LS2 coils is little to none, so I tend to think that the LS2 coils don't make THAT much of an improvement. Glenn is going to send me a set of LS2 coils when I get my shit together and head back to the dyno. We got another 6" of snow last night so it won't be for a while :rofl:

[speedjunkie]

We got another 6" of snow last night so it won't be for a while :rofl:

Oh come on, don't let that stop you. All you need is some kind of tow vehicle and a competition to motivate you LOL.

[2gslse]

Brian my coils are available for as much testing as you want to do until the day I bolt them into my car after that they will be harder to part with. I had to talk myself out of installing them in my FD this week.

BTW... Bill and I are getting our asses kicked in the ROTM for Feb. Thanks :)

[TitaniumTT]

Oh come on, don't let that stop you. All you need is some kind of tow vehicle and a competition to motivate you LOL.

:rofl: Got both, what I don't have right now is time. I'll picks of the rotary nemisis tonight... actually staring at the damn thing right now.

Brian my coils are available for as much testing as you want to do until the day I bolt them into my car after that they will be harder to part with. I had to talk myself out of installing them in my FD this week.

Cool! Thanks MC. I don't think the testing will be done until after Deals though... not sure when you're planning on putting them on but I'm sure we'll figure something out.

BTW... Bill and I are getting our asses kicked in the ROTM for Feb. Thanks :)

:lol: Sorry... don't blame my though, blame the dude who nominated the cute chick who's into cars... he's the one you should kill :smash:

[TitaniumTT]

How to properly park a Jeep :rofl:

Yeah, we got more snow yesterday, and everything that started to melt froze, so it's pretty solid. Didn't even leave any tread marks that time. Later in the day I parked nose first. Got so high up I lifted the left rear and the truck rocked a little.... I think my asshole is still puckered :smilielol5:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9750&stc=1&d=1298419310

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9751&stc=1&d=1298419310

[TitaniumTT]

The rotaries nemesis!!! AHHHHAHAHAAAHAAHAAAA Got maybe 3 more weeks on this mother until I can really start cranking on the ole' 7. The paint failed on the firewall. PO who "restored" the righ hired a proffessional painter who skipped the whole Galanizing prep and self etching primer. The paint was literally falling off.... and in big chunks too... 6"x6" and sometimes larger. When we prepped it, we never once needed a piece of sandpaper. All we did was scrape it all off :rofl:

That and I'll be completely redoing the totally abysmal factory wiring. It'll be full Raychem and mil spec by the time I'm done. I dare say it'll be the nicest wired Landi EVER!!!!! HAAHAAHAHAA!!!! EVER!!!!!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9752&stc=1&d=1298419642

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9753&stc=1&d=1298419642

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[tweiss3]

I have to ask, now that you brought it up, what do you use as self etching primer?

[WE3RX7]

You werent kidding... that landi is one crazy mother!

Still though.. should have just bought a jeep, lol...

[TitaniumTT]

I use PPG products.... but as you can see the rig is in my "booth" so I took the bulkhead down to an old friend of the family.... not sure what they use. Brought it there yesterday morning, was there this morning and it wasn't done, they called a little while ago.... DONE! and baked off too so tomorrow night the POS is going on.

[hades]

I turned my ac on the drive home:biggthumpup:

[TitaniumTT]

You werent kidding... that landi is one crazy mother!

Still though.. should have just bought a jeep, lol...

Yeah, no doubt.... but he had to have the diesel, and he had to have something that would somewhat match what he's got in Africa.....

I turned my ac on the drive home:biggthumpup:

:toetap05:




AC is for pussies..... The only time I use AC is when my dogs are in the truck




I wish it was warm out... my garage is up to 60* and it's still cold out there.

[tweiss3]

Ok, i have read your entire thread, and thats some damn good work. Much props to you.

I do have a few questions, since I am looking at some tooling purchases.
1)What grade steel do you use for your body work and what thicknesses?
2)what type of welder do you use, I'm assuming TIG.
3)what gas do you use for your welding?
4)do you just cold bend all your pieces, or do you have a sheet metal bender?

[vex]

He's a Miller Whore.

[Force13b]

He's a Whore.
Fixed for accuracy

[To_Slow]

Great build....!! nice work.... !!!

Will check it out more at Deals gap...

[TitaniumTT]

Ok, i have read your entire thread, and thats some damn good work. Much props to you.

You read the entire thread in one sitting? Damn, how long did that take? And thanks!

I do have a few questions, since I am looking at some tooling purchases.
1)What grade steel do you use for your body work and what thicknesses?

I haven't had to do much body work that required steel. Cutting out the rust I want to say it was standard A36. It was .063" thick. All the work that I did to the hood was all AL, that was mostly .063", some .050" and that would have been 5052 for it's formability.

2)what type of welder do you use, I'm assuming TIG.

If I'm welding steel, it's almost always MIG welding, SS sometimes MIG, sometimes TIG. AL is always TIG. I tried the spoolgun thing, and it just doesn't work cery well, for me anyway... well it works, but it looks like bubblegum birdshit

3)what gas do you use for your welding?

Depends on the base metal. SS is tri-mix, steel is 75%argon 25%Co2, AL is 100% argon.... I've been meaning to try the helium mix on some of the thicker AL, but haven't really been welding much thick stuff lately. That is changing though as I'm helping a local Rotor head twin-charge his FD and we're mounting the Eaton SuperCharger where the P/S pump once lived.

4)do you just cold bend all your pieces, or do you have a sheet metal bender?

I built a sheel metal brake out of some 5/16 or 3/8 mild steel "L" Cost like $30 in materials to get a 36" brake... I think it's 36" It works well. For smaller, tighter bends I've got a vise mounted brake that works well... actually I think it's the only thing that I've ever bought from HF that was actually worth the shipping :smilielol:

[TitaniumTT]

He's a Miller Whore.

That is correct....

Hypertherm plasma cutter though. Cheaper and more power compared to the Millers.

Fixed for accuracy

You would know :suspect:

[TitaniumTT]

Great build....!! nice work.... !!!

Will check it out more at Deals gap...

Thanks man!!! Yeah, I would LOVE to talk to you at Deals.... we'll have to figure something out before hand so we don't miss the opportunity!

[tweiss3]

Yes, in one sitting, between this thread and real work, it took almost 6 hours.

I'm supprised to hear you mig almost everything. That's good to know, cause I'm looking at welders, and can mig passably, and can tig sorta, but was going to try to learn more, but the more i hear people using mig for everything, the more i would rather stick with what i'm comfortable with.

A36 is reasonable to find, I was just making sure. I've done a ton of 4130 chromealloy in school, (structural design project start to finish).

[TitaniumTT]

Yeah that's right, 1/2 cage and the bumper support in the front were all chromoly.

MIG is great, fast, easy to learn. TIG is slow, time consuming, more accurate though.... so it depends on what you're doing.

I bought my TIG a bunch of years ago before I started the engine swap, lots o' custom shit on this project. I had never picked up a TIG torch in my life. I'd seen it done a bunch. Bought the machine, bought a book, talked to a bunch of pros that I knew, and just started messing around with it. I am by no means a pro welder, but I can get by ;)

Unless you're planning on using a bunch of AL for your build (which I was, I wanted everything AL to save weight because I knew I was going to be adding a bunch of weight with everything), just go with the MIG. Miller just came out with a 211 auto-set. If I we're looking for a new first welder, I would go with that one.

[TitaniumTT]

and damn! 6 hrs... I don't think I could sit still for that long... nor woulf my eyes tolerate it... even with my glasses :rofl:

[tweiss3]

Honestly, thats just about a perfect choice, nice recomendation. Price is right about the max i want to use, decent specs, and is a 110/220 compatable. My dad's truck we need to do some restoration (new fender arches, typ. rustout in door rockers) that it would work perfect for.

[WE3RX7]

and damn! 6 hrs... I don't think I could sit still for that long... nor woulf my eyes tolerate it... even with my glasses :rofl:

Somehow between AZ and TX, I feel like you may have sat in one spot for 6 hours, lol..

[TitaniumTT]

Yeah well, that was a 21 hr straight stretch.... but the scenery kept changing

[tweiss3]

I'd have to agree, making the 19 hour trek from akron ohio to saginaw texas isn't bad at all cause the scenery changes

[TitaniumTT]

Lots of scenery too... head to DGRR man, probably the same amout of seat time

[TitaniumTT]

So it's time for an update I suppose. We hit a snag with the landi build when the firewall came back a different color, so I decided to spend the weekend working on the 7. I really didn't do much aside from winterize it and start tearing the interior apart to fix the shitty sound quality in the Sirius, and add a 12V adapter specific for the Laptop. I decided I don't need an inverter, I'd rather buy a DC adapter for my Laptop for $20 than go through the hassel of finding, mounting, wiring an inverter. So I raped a beautiful socket from an old XJ dash and mounted it in the glove box. After a trip to the boneyard later this week I'll have that finisihed.

Mechanically I didn't do much, I was too disgusted. After I pulled the elbow off the TB to get the fogging fluid in there I happened to glance into the intercooler and saw a POOL of oil in there..... turbo's puked AGAIN. That's a total of 6 turbo's that I've killed in the course of 6 weeks.... :banghead: I'm done with these Hitachi's. I got in on a GB for some BNR's and I'll be pulling them off tomorrow night and sending them out for coating assembly on Wednesday. Plan is to break the old record with them of 426 rwhp. More importantly, they should be RELIABLE!!!! That's the key right there, if they last a few years I'll be happy.

Originally I was going to rock a supersecret turbo, and I may still do that next winter and use the FC as a year long test bed so everything's pretty much sorted out for the FD. But, I've been through too much with this car to make it sequential, and I just can't see going any other route with it. So yeah, BNR's for DGRRXI! and a 6-spd, and a 4.3 Torsen. If the TC works well I should be able to LOG 0-60 in 4s!! WEEEEE!!!!!!!

[speedjunkie]

Good grief man, you're like the arch nemesis of turbos haha.

[tweiss3]

I wish I could make DGRR, but I can't pull the time off work, that PTO is reserved for my wedding and such. Otherwise it would be a no brainer. I went to DG last year with my other forum, and it was a blast.

[TitaniumTT]

Good grief man, you're like the arch nemesis of turbos haha.

:smilielol5: I know!!!! The turbo's that we put on in Cali, both sets, were old, used ones so they sat for a while, the seals I'm sure dried out and when they were hit with 135pss of oil at cold startup and 100psi of oil at cruise, they just let loose. I could have Brian rebuild them, but how long are they gonna last? All the plates I'm sure are slightly worn, I've NEVER had luck with reman products of ANY kind, so I'm looking at it this way.... I'm paying $1000 for the Stage 3's since I'll be out $700 for two reman'ed cartrides anyway. I am going to call Garrett and see if I should put in a small restricter of some sort, but I would hate to have too little oil there ya know?

I wish I could make DGRR, but I can't pull the time off work, that PTO is reserved for my wedding and such. Otherwise it would be a no brainer. I went to DG last year with my other forum, and it was a blast.

Other forum? What is this "other" forum you speak of?

[tweiss3]

Other forum = www.6crew.com, yes I am a mazda junky, even if i rock a sedan (if i could get time and money to rebuild her)

Both DGRR and 6Crew are calling me to the dragon, and I can't make either. It makes me quite unhappy.

[TitaniumTT]

I was talking with a buddy of mine in CA yesterday who was planning on attending. Registered and everything until Sunday when he blew his LS1 powered Miata on the track. We're working on getting him down there via plane to reduce costs and time away from work. I've found, there's always a way.

[tweiss3]

DGRR would mean no time off for my wedding, and teh 6Crew run is durring my wedding/honeymoon.

[MmSadda]

Brian, you are a crazy person. Just thought you should know ;)

[MmSadda]

and you blew up 6 turbos in 6 months? How's that? I know you'd had one failing when you were here, and you got a new set in Cali - that's like 3-4 turbos accounted for, what's the story on the others??

[tweiss3]

Uh, he said 6 weeks.

[TitaniumTT]

Brian, you are a crazy person. Just thought you should know ;)

:rofl: Yeah I've heard that once or twice before

Uh, he said 6 weeks.

Yup, 6 weeks

and you blew up 6 turbos in 6 months? How's that? I know you'd had one failing when you were here, and you got a new set in Cali - that's like 3-4 turbos accounted for, what's the story on the others??

Well, the one that was failing when I was there totally gave out shortly thereafter. I replaced that in CO. That one lasted an hr before it puked. (there's two in three days) I hobbled the car to Glenns where we pulled the engine, fixed the sleeve, bolted on a set of turbo's that included one of my old ones. Those lasted a matter of minutes as well. (three) Swapped those out on Sunday night for a new cartridge and left for home(number 4). Made it to AZ before turning around and heading back to Glenns. Swapped those out for two different cartridges and those got me home. Now they're making 382hp and spewing oil everywhere. So those are gone 5 & 6 since I left in early December - to late January when I last drove the car.

[RX SE7EN]

Depends on the base metal. SS is tri-mix, steel is 75%argon 25%Co2, AL is 100% argon.... I've been meaning to try the helium mix on some of the thicker AL, but haven't really been welding much thick stuff lately. That is changing though as I'm helping a local Rotor head twin-charge his FD and we're mounting the Eaton SuperCharger where the P/S pump once lived.

That's right :) So I guess I'm part of the reason why Brian doesn't have more of his checklist complete. Hopefully I can give him a hand to return the favors over the next few weeks though.

I'll have a build thread up by the end of next weekend so everyone can see the welding talent. (please don't ask any questions about the setup in this thread)

The Supercharger bracket formerly known as the power steering pump/AC bracket.
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh92/Chudsoncoupe/Twin%20Charger/photo.jpg

So pretty:
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh92/Chudsoncoupe/Twin%20Charger/photo2.jpg

[WE3RX7]

Hmph... twins.... A small part of me died just now.

Oh well... we'll have an ultimate FC shootout DGRRXII!

[TitaniumTT]

That's right :) So I guess I'm part of the reason why Brian doesn't have more of his checklist complete. Hopefully I can give him a hand to return the favors over the next few weeks though.

I'll have a build thread up by the end of next weekend so everyone can see the welding talent. (please don't ask any questions about the setup in this thread)

The Supercharger bracket formerly known as the power steering pump/AC bracket.
So pretty:


:rofl: You're not the reason, the Landi is the reason, and beyond that it's my body shop that fucked me out of more than a week by painting the damn firewall the wrong color. Hopefully I'll be dropping that off to be re-sprayed tomorrow though.

End of NEXT weekend? C'mon man!!! And where the fuck ya been???? We got some welding to do damnit. Oh, and to answer your question from the txt, I think that mounting the tensioner there is going to be very difficult to make it strong. In order to mount it there the load is going to be against the thin part of the mount, not the thick part. I think it's worth looking at again how to make the SC adjustable to get tension.

[TitaniumTT]

Hmph... twins.... A small part of me died just now.

Oh well... we'll have an ultimate FC shootout DGRRXII!

Meh, you're just upset cuz I'm going for 425+ which is more than 2 and 1/4 of your silly little rennis ;) :rof:

[RX SE7EN]

:rofl: You're not the reason, the Landi is the reason, and beyond that it's my body shop that fucked me out of more than a week by painting the damn firewall the wrong color. Hopefully I'll be dropping that off to be re-sprayed tomorrow though.

End of NEXT weekend? C'mon man!!! And where the fuck ya been???? We got some welding to do damnit. Oh, and to answer your question from the txt, I think that mounting the tensioner there is going to be very difficult to make it strong. In order to mount it there the load is going to be against the thin part of the mount, not the thick part. I think it's worth looking at again how to make the SC adjustable to get tension.

Haha, well ok, the Landi is the true reason. Work is killing me though, now have to go to FL until saturday night. I'll shoot you a text, hopefully we can do something sunday. I got all of the flanges traced out last night, so I just need to get cutting.

What's the eta on the BNR's? Are you getting those cermamic coated as well?

[TitaniumTT]

Fucking Lame man! Was wondering where you've been. Sunday we can definately get something done. I'm hoping to be dropping off the firewall tomorrow, picking up Friday, going out to Dave's on Saturday, so I bet Sunday Grant will be by to help installing that fucker.

ETA is hopefully by the end of the month. I'm actually pulling the oldies out right now. Going to be sending BNR the cartridges, the comp housings and all the oil/water lines. The center section and the snails are going out to be ceramic coated and then they'll be shipped to BNR for assembly. Exhaust log and a few other parts going for coating as well. Brian is going to mod my y-pipe and then send that to coating. Then everything is on it's way back to me. Hopefully I'll have everything back in my hands by the end of the months. Then it's a few other TEEEEENY TIIIIIINY things left and she's good to go. Little things like trans', brakes, fuel cell gaskets.... little shit.

Definately gimme a shout on Sunday, I'll be around doing little to nothing I'm sure :rofl:

[helghast7]

you no brian, after reading the comments people made i dont think these guys understand how shitty the twins really are reliability wise lol

when the actual cast iron housing around the wastegate started cracking at 15lbs in my first set i knew then and there these things were going to give me a lot of FML moments

cant wait for ST setup this year :)

[one320fc]

Meh, you're just upset cuz I'm going for 425+ which is more than 2 and 1/4 of your silly little rennis ;) :rof:

God I don't know whos worse you or MC...you guys are going to give Bill a complex and not a good one either!! It's good though it takes his focus away from daily harassment calls about my project. Keep up the good work! :biggthumpup:

[2gslse]

OH yeah its time for me to start harrassing you again thanks for the reminder :)

[WE3RX7]

God I don't know whos worse you or MC...you guys are going to give Bill a complex and not a good one either!! It's good though it takes his focus away from daily harassment calls about my project. Keep up the good work! :biggthumpup:

Ah - thats right, did you get that engine in yet?? Did you get a chance to order the pilot bearing/seal, lol....

It only gets worse from here...


On another note, Brian won't give me a complex. Our cars are way to similar as it is, but at the end of the day.. my peak HP and TQ will yield a little higher of a number, lol. I mean, lets face it... twins can only do but so much :toetap05:

[one320fc]

OH yeah its time for me to start harrassing you again thanks for the reminder :)

What?? you can't be harassing me while your in GA.. You still need to come over and check out the process!!


Ah - thats right, did you get that engine in yet?? Did you get a chance to order the pilot bearing/seal, lol....

It only gets worse from here...


On another note, Brian won't give me a complex. Our cars are way to similar as it is, but at the end of the day.. my peak HP and TQ will yield a little higher of a number, lol. I mean, lets face it... twins can only do but so much :toetap05:

This is going to get ugly..I see it coming! :smilielol5: I think this calls for a dyno war @ KDR when your done with the FC. And for shits and grins invite your cousin Jamie with that 1200hp Supra :icon_no2:

[WE3RX7]

His 1200hp was sold a few years ago, their shop car is now a 900hp supra. Its actually much faster than the 1200hp one.

Dont worry about it getting ugly... I already got a slamming voice mail late last night from some sleep deprived mad scientist bent on twin turbo domination of the forced induction world :)

On that note, Brian... I'll give you a ring back shortly...

[TitaniumTT]

you no brian, after reading the comments people made i dont think these guys understand how shitty the twins really are reliability wise lol

when the actual cast iron housing around the wastegate started cracking at 15lbs in my first set i knew then and there these things were going to give me a lot of FML moments

cant wait for ST setup this year :)

Getting a good base and ceramic coating them helps.

Not to mention keeping the EGT's in check as well is a good thing. When you pop the hood to check fluids at a gas stop and the mani is glowing beat cherry red hot, you've got problems. So IMO, tuning helps.

My problem really was I was getting and using used cartridges that had been sitting stagnent for years. So the seals all dry out. Then the first shot of pressure they see is 135+ psi, and 100+psi for hours on end, they tend to fail quickly.

But yea, aside from that, even a newly rebuilt core will fail quickly if the boost gets too high.

God I don't know whos worse you or MC...you guys are going to give Bill a complex and not a good one either!! It's good though it takes his focus away from daily harassment calls about my project. Keep up the good work! :biggthumpup:

He deserves a complex, it keeps him motivated.... or it should. It hasn't, which is starting to concern me. I left him a VM last night, something to the effect of it really doesn't matter when the brakes that we're working on are done for him, 'cuz they'll just sit in a box or become some sort mantly piece becuase his FC will NEVER roll under it's own power :rofl:

[TitaniumTT]

OH yeah its time for me to start harrassing you again thanks for the reminder :)

Harassing who? Me or him? I need some harrassment actually, been slacking. Just got back from OH and found out I'm going to CA in a fwe weeks FOR a few weeks. So in the course of 3 days, I lost 3 weeks...... this is a problem.....

Ah - thats right, did you get that engine in yet?? Did you get a chance to order the pilot bearing/seal, lol....

It only gets worse from here...


On another note, Brian won't give me a complex. Our cars are way to similar as it is, but at the end of the day.. my peak HP and TQ will yield a little higher of a number, lol. I mean, lets face it... twins can only do but so much :toetap05:

Yeah, but twins + Cosmo > Twin renni's... that's really all the math I care about right now ;)

After that, Cosmo + secret turbo > net torque than whatever you've got planned :p for that plastic nosed FC or yours :rofl:

[TitaniumTT]

What?? you can't be harassing me while your in GA.. You still need to come over and check out the process!!

This is going to get ugly..I see it coming! :smilielol5: I think this calls for a dyno war @ KDR when your done with the FC. And for shits and grins invite your cousin Jamie with that 1200hp Supra :icon_no2:

I'm game for that... I bet Dave would be too. I've got no problem setting something up before DGRRXI if you guys are. I'll be out there anyway

His 1200hp was sold a few years ago, their shop car is now a 900hp supra. Its actually much faster than the 1200hp one.

Dont worry about it getting ugly... I already got a slamming voice mail late last night from some sleep deprived mad scientist bent on twin turbo domination of the forced induction world :)

On that note, Brian... I'll give you a ring back shortly...

haahahahaa :rofl: ahahahaa :lol: hahahahaahaa :smilielol5:

I am bent on domination of the twin turbo rotary world. I will break that record, and I'll do it at less boost, then depending on how close we are, I may tweak a little more and go for 450:driving:

Gimme a shout tomorrow pal.... I'll be around all day.. Got the day off and when I cam back from OH tonight I found like 5 new packages:001_005: So I'll be doing a bunch of work on the ole' girl tomorrow.

[2gslse]

Brian, I was referring to one320fc's former weekly harrassment calls before he gave up on it for a while.
I think I should get the FD retuned before the gap this year but time is gonna be tight for me with work and its almost springtime (yardwork sucks) I am back from GA but will be going back in a few weeks to help a buddy get his crap together for DGRR and I still haven't even began working on my FB and it was gonna be my winter project but the RX8 kinda took up all my funding/time.

[hades]

I'm game for that... I bet Dave would be too. I've got no problem setting something up before DGRRXI if you guys are. I'll be out there anyway



haahahahaa :rofl: ahahahaa :lol: hahahahaahaa :smilielol5:

I am bent on domination of the twin turbo rotary world. I will break that record, and I'll do it at less boost, then depending on how close we are, I may tweak a little more and go for 450:driving:

Gimme a shout tomorrow pal.... I'll be around all day.. Got the day off and when I cam back from OH tonight I found like 5 new packages:001_005: So I'll be doing a bunch of work on the ole' girl tomorrow.

how those exhaust sleeves holding up? And I am only half way being an ass. The other part of me really does want to know.

[TitaniumTT]

Brian, I was referring to one320fc's former weekly harrassment calls before he gave up on it for a while.
I think I should get the FD retuned before the gap this year but time is gonna be tight for me with work and its almost springtime (yardwork sucks) I am back from GA but will be going back in a few weeks to help a buddy get his crap together for DGRR and I still haven't even began working on my FB and it was gonna be my winter project but the RX8 kinda took up all my funding/time.

Ah I see.... I'm surprised I haven't recieved more heckling considering I missed Deals by a matter of hours last year. I certainly deserve any and all harassment that I get.

Shit man, it's not like it was all for nothing, I love your 8.... it's beautiful.

When Bill get's his lightweight flywheel bought and installed in his 8, we should definately make a trip back. I'm hoping to be there around the beginning of April for the first round of tuning and to get the trans swapped out. At the least get the tranny as close to completely dealt with as possible. I mounted my RX8 5-spd knob in my truck a few days ago; had to re-thread the shifter itself just to solidify my intentions of never ever taking the 5spd knob off :rofl:

how those exhaust sleeves holding up? And I am only half way being an ass. The other part of me really does want to know.

As far as I can tell they are still 100% Dropped the EGT's by really cranking on the timing. I think part of it was some sort of structural defect in the sleeve because the front rotor was exposed to the same EGT's and pressure and vibrations yet that one was flawless and has been... soooooo I dunno.

So far so good though

[helghast7]

Getting a good base and ceramic coating them helps.

Not to mention keeping the EGT's in check as well is a good thing. When you pop the hood to check fluids at a gas stop and the mani is glowing beat cherry red hot, you've got problems. So IMO, tuning helps.

My problem really was I was getting and using used cartridges that had been sitting stagnent for years. So the seals all dry out. Then the first shot of pressure they see is 135+ psi, and 100+psi for hours on end, they tend to fail quickly.

But yea, aside from that, even a newly rebuilt core will fail quickly if the boost gets too high.

exactly lol, which is why im giving them a farewell salute this season and taking the plunge into the wonderful world of single turbo...ness

which technically speaking will actually save me money in the long run..plus so far its becoming a pretty cheap build...my estimate for the single turbo swap..parts only of course(nobody but me and the even cooler me in PA[if that makes any sense to you] touches my car...well you too lol but lets keep to the point lol) is looking around 2k
which includes:
turbo
custom manifold(which is almost done btw :lol: )
dp
wastegates
lines(ext.)

so i can dig that, the hard part is deciding if i want to really go crazy this year and redo my IC setup as well as upgrade my oil coolers, redo the fuel system and AI all in one shot

i guess the deciding factor is if my new lady friend is a keeper or not :rofl:

on a side note this weekend im determined to dig through my stuff to locate those switches for you...ive got a feint idea on their location....but ive been wrong before lol

aaannnndddd if we go back to the other side...note.... do you know anyone that does real good ceramic coating? once my manifold and what not is done i want to get it coated but i have no clue who does a good job at a good price

[TitaniumTT]

exactly lol, which is why im giving them a farewell salute this season and taking the plunge into the wonderful world of single turbo...ness

TwinTurbo ness when they're working properly is truly devine though.... I've gotta take you for a run in my car when she's back together again.

which technically speaking will actually save me money in the long run..plus so far its becoming a pretty cheap build...my estimate for the single turbo swap..parts only of course(nobody but me and the even cooler me in PA[if that makes any sense to you] touches my car...well you too lol but lets keep to the point lol) is looking around 2k
which includes:

I had to think about it and read it twice before I realized what you were getting at... but yeah, totally makes sense now.


turbo
custom manifold(which is almost done btw :lol: )
dp
wastegates
lines(ext.)

That's really not that bad at all when you think about what some of these "kits" are going for... and I use that term loosely. So that's some pretty good shit right there:icon_tup:

so i can dig that, the hard part is deciding if i want to really go crazy this year and redo my IC setup as well as upgrade my oil coolers, redo the fuel system and AI all in one shot

Meh, don't upgrade until it's needed. Bigger intercooler, bigger oil coolers, new lines, all that crap might not even be necessary. I say do it and see where you land with it all and roll from there.

i guess the deciding factor is if my new lady friend is a keeper or not :rofl:

If she's a keeper she'll contribute to the cause in any way shape or form she can damnitall!!!!

on a side note this weekend im determined to dig through my stuff to locate those switches for you...ive got a feint idea on their location....but ive been wrong before lol

aaannnndddd if we go back to the other side...note.... do you know anyone that does real good ceramic coating? once my manifold and what not is done i want to get it coated but i have no clue who does a good job at a good price

Cool shit for sure man. Yeah, I'd definately be interested because the ones that I'm looking for are becoming more and more difficult to find and I don't feel like paying $180 each for new ones... so yeah, as of right now I'm open for suggestions :rofl:

[hades]

I think sport tuner down here in TX as a good rep for coatings along with IRP.

[TitaniumTT]

IRP doesn't coat. They sub out to SportTuner where all my shit is right now

[helghast7]

TwinTurbo ness when they're working properly is truly devine though.... I've gotta take you for a run in my car when she's back together again.

ahh id be down for that, i do agree with you, they were a blast when i was sequential, and the second set still pulled real hard when i went nonsequential, i mean you remember how pissed i was i kept blowing block off caps i had you shut them all lol

im just tired of the car constantly breaking, i want to get rid of all weak links, and the twins are definetly one of them however fun they are, ill miss the stupid insane response, but i am building the car to get the best response i can and so far im satisfied with the path im taking, everytime i speak to dave he does nothing but tell me how much he likes what im planning so we will see


That's really not that bad at all when you think about what some of these "kits" are going for... and I use that term loosely. So that's some pretty good shit right there:icon_tup:

yea, thats why i wanted to build my own..plus it helps that i found some great deals along the way ;)

Meh, don't upgrade until it's needed. Bigger intercooler, bigger oil coolers, new lines, all that crap might not even be necessary. I say do it and see where you land with it all and roll from there.

yea i know, i think the biggest thing i might do is a little sumtin sumtin for the fuel system...you know im still on the stock pump? lol and dual oil coolers to really drop temps

If she's a keeper she'll contribute to the cause in any way shape or form she can damnitall!!!!

lmao!!! funny thing about her is before i mentioned i had a sports car she said everyone that has one is an asshole lol...my first though "oh crap" lmao but shes warmed up to the idea since then and is finally meeting the ol' girl sunday, well see how that goes

Cool shit for sure man. Yeah, I'd definately be interested because the ones that I'm looking for are becoming more and more difficult to find and I don't feel like paying $180 each for new ones... so yeah, as of right now I'm open for suggestions :rofl:

yea tell me about it, thats why the fc is still stuck with only setting 1 and 2 and no mist or intermittent lol

[TitaniumTT]

ahh id be down for that, i do agree with you, they were a blast when i was sequential, and the second set still pulled real hard when i went nonsequential, i mean you remember how pissed i was i kept blowing block off caps i had you shut them all lol

im just tired of the car constantly breaking, i want to get rid of all weak links, and the twins are definetly one of them however fun they are, ill miss the stupid insane response, but i am building the car to get the best response i can and so far im satisfied with the path im taking, everytime i speak to dave he does nothing but tell me how much he likes what im planning so we will see

Sequential twins + 6spd + 4.3 Torsen = 4.1 0-60 and just an absolute blast around the auto-x WHICH you mothers from Jersey need to get to this year. I'm sure they'll have the sched up soon and yeah, I'll post it.

I think it's a good path to take. Most everything is bolt-on and can easily be changed, which is a good thing. Sometimes even the best plans don't go according to plan.


yea, thats why i wanted to build my own..plus it helps that i found some great deals along the way ;)

yea i know, i think the biggest thing i might do is a little sumtin sumtin for the fuel system...you know im still on the stock pump? lol and dual oil coolers to really drop temps

Finding deals always helps. Sounds like you're getting a mani built, who's doing it?

Fuel system is so critical. Depending on goals, that will determine where you go with it. For a street car, you can't get better than Denso pumps.... one or two of them... and definately get the thing rewired and ditch the stock white connector.

lmao!!! funny thing about her is before i mentioned i had a sports car she said everyone that has one is an asshole lol...my first though "oh crap" lmao but shes warmed up to the idea since then and is finally meeting the ol' girl sunday, well see how that goes

You're gonna have to bring both of them to the TNC meets when the weather turn's nice. I've gotta get down there but I've been so eff'ing swamped and the comp shoots are always on Tuesdays too... so it's tough



yea tell me about it, thats why the fc is still stuck with only setting 1 and 2 and no mist or intermittent lol

I was actually talking about the cupholders, the ones that I want are up around $180 each new so I've been scouring the boneyards for them but coming up empty. I dunno exactely what I've gonna do but I'll figure it out. Right now that whole thing just got bumped down a few notchs on the todo list becuase of the time I need to take off for a few weeks to go back to CA :suspect:

[helghast7]

My biggest problem with tracking the car is everytime I'm just about ready something breaks lmao! I've been wanting to go real bad to really see what my creation can do lol and how well I handle her

Lmao oh god bringing her to a tnc meet lol I'll wait till things get a little more serious before I do that

Yea it's a custom Manifold my buddy is making guy named tito, he builds manifolds for supras, I haven't seen it yet but 2 of my friends saw it and said it looked amazing, he should be done this week, I'll post up pics when I get it

Yes I wanted to get the denso supra pump, I was contemplating doing what you did and do a surge tank but I'm still planning that part out

Right now my biggest concern is the single setup, I'm almost positive my fuel system can handle like 10lbs from that turbo to at least get me by till my next big modification spree

[tweiss3]

I've been thinking (yes, that can be dangerous), does motec have a cruise control system available for it?

[TitaniumTT]

My biggest problem with tracking the car is everytime I'm just about ready something breaks lmao! I've been wanting to go real bad to really see what my creation can do lol and how well I handle her

:rofl: Yeah, mine seems to do that before every track day. Drove me insane for 2 years. Hopin' NOT to have that problem this year.

Should definately try to make it up... especially for some of the FCSCC's events, and the CART one in Torrington... I missed Torrington last year but my buddy in a Miata... underpowered MIATA was hitting 70+!

Lmao oh god bringing her to a tnc meet lol I'll wait till things get a little more serious before I do that

:smilielol5:

Yea it's a custom Manifold my buddy is making guy named tito, he builds manifolds for supras, I haven't seen it yet but 2 of my friends saw it and said it looked amazing, he should be done this week, I'll post up pics when I get it

duh... that's right.... you were telling me all about that last week

Yes I wanted to get the denso supra pump, I was contemplating doing what you did and do a surge tank but I'm still planning that part out

From what I understand, FD tank + Supra TT pump + hyperion cover is a pretty kickass setup. No need to do the full custom fuel cell deal like I did...... even though I will when I do my FD :rofl:

Right now my biggest concern is the single setup, I'm almost positive my fuel system can handle like 10lbs from that turbo to at least get me by till my next big modification spree

For the cost of it all... ~$200 for a pump and another $1-200 for injectors... I'd do that when you do the turbo so you can push the boost a little more cuz you know you're gonna want to a week after you get the 10lbs dialed in

I've been thinking (yes, that can be dangerous), does motec have a cruise control system available for it?

Nope, don't think any aftermkt ECU has a dedicated cruise control but there are aftermkt units that you can buy

[helghast7]

:rofl: Yeah, mine seems to do that before every track day. Drove me insane for 2 years. Hopin' NOT to have that problem this year.

Should definately try to make it up... especially for some of the FCSCC's events, and the CART one in Torrington... I missed Torrington last year but my buddy in a Miata... underpowered MIATA was hitting 70+!

once im single...dont quote me buuuttt....id be down for that, at the moment thats really my last weak link on the car when it comes to breaking stuff, though upgrades wise i could use coilovers :lol:

From what I understand, FD tank + Supra TT pump + hyperion cover is a pretty kickass setup. No need to do the full custom fuel cell deal like I did...... even though I will when I do my FD :rofl:

hyperion cover? im in need of doing some research now :o11:

For the cost of it all... ~$200 for a pump and another $1-200 for injectors... I'd do that when you do the turbo so you can push the boost a little more cuz you know you're gonna want to a week after you get the 10lbs dialed in

ehhhh sorta, i still need a secondary rail, + fittings + lines +installing my FPR(which i own already thank god)

so yea its not bad but i know its gonna add up real quick

[TitaniumTT]

once im single...dont quote me buuuttt....id be down for that, at the moment thats really my last weak link on the car when it comes to breaking stuff, though upgrades wise i could use coilovers :lol:

pssshhhh. excuses excuses.... here's all you need to know

http://www.cartct.com/auto_schedule.shtml

Whenever it says Thompson Speedway, keep that day open and you and Abdul get yer asses to CT! I haven't driven that course, but I was talking to one of the CART officers and he told me the whole club really liked it and they were going to see about getting there at least twice. I guess they REALLY liked it and Thompson was accomodating. It should play in a little more to our cars strengths. They're not as nimble as some of the other cars but when they stretch their legs, watch the fuck out! If Rob was hitting 70 in his Miata... I should be in 4th gear at points :hurray:


Bigger club in CT....

South lot is where it's at!

Damn... these guys are starting early this year and I ain't got a car :( Sad Brian is sad


hyperion cover? im in need of doing some research now :o11:

Yeah, cool little product, I know guys that swear by it.

ehhhh sorta, i still need a secondary rail, + fittings + lines +installing my FPR(which i own already thank god)

so yea its not bad but i know its gonna add up real quick

It will.... next time you talk to Dave, ask him about Gordons car at idle with his new injectors.

And go CJ rails, can't get anything better than those. I still need to get in touch with him and get som Mani's off to him so he can build a secondary rail for my Cosmo that's going in the FD.

Aight..... Landi owner aint coming by today.... and this aint getting it done... I'm heading out to get some Argon then hopefully crank out a good 12 hrs or work today

[helghast7]

pssshhhh. excuses excuses.... here's all you need to know

http://www.cartct.com/auto_schedule.shtml

Whenever it says Thompson Speedway, keep that day open and you and Abdul get yer asses to CT! I haven't driven that course, but I was talking to one of the CART officers and he told me the whole club really liked it and they were going to see about getting there at least twice. I guess they REALLY liked it and Thompson was accomodating. It should play in a little more to our cars strengths. They're not as nimble as some of the other cars but when they stretch their legs, watch the fuck out! If Rob was hitting 70 in his Miata... I should be in 4th gear at points :hurray:


Bigger club in CT....

South lot is where it's at!

Damn... these guys are starting early this year and I ain't got a car :( Sad Brian is sad

:lol: the coilovers wasnt an excuse, just something i want, but i wouldnt use that as an excuse....the grenaded diff i would and the shit ass turbos i would, there starting to have trouble reaching 10lbs

It will.... next time you talk to Dave, ask him about Gordons car at idle with his new injectors.

mmm i can only imagine what kind of pure sexiness that car is doing lol

And go CJ rails, can't get anything better than those. I still need to get in touch with him and get som Mani's off to him so he can build a secondary rail for my Cosmo that's going in the FD.

hmmm ill have to look into it, the guy building my manifold said he could make me a primary rail for a good price so ill have to really compare

speaking of my manifold, i took a little pitstop today at my buddys shop to check it out since thats were it was at the time, its only half way done but damn does it look sexy

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/Helghast7/project%20fd/IMG_0127.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/Helghast7/project%20fd/IMG_0129.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/Helghast7/project%20fd/IMG_0128.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/Helghast7/project%20fd/IMG_0126.jpg

he still has to make the second wg port, clean it up and smooth it out, and weld on the flanges, then off it goes to get ceramic coated

[TitaniumTT]

:lol: the coilovers wasnt an excuse, just something i want, but i wouldnt use that as an excuse....the grenaded diff i would and the shit ass turbos i would, there starting to have trouble reaching 10lbs

Yeah but you got that S4 diff now :suspect: and the things at Daves right now..... so no more excuses for you.

mmm i can only imagine what kind of pure sexiness that car is doing lol

hmmm ill have to look into it, the guy building my manifold said he could make me a primary rail for a good price so ill have to really compare

speaking of my manifold, i took a little pitstop today at my buddys shop to check it out since thats were it was at the time, its only half way done but damn does it look sexy


he still has to make the second wg port, clean it up and smooth it out, and weld on the flanges, then off it goes to get ceramic coated

Damn, that does look pretty good. Are you re-routing the WG back into the DP or is it gonna be in your face goodness?

[TitaniumTT]

Soooo I actually got a little work done today... imagine that! Started off by ripping into the interior to do a little reworking on the whole stock 12V socket that won't contact any charger whatsoever. First happened on the epic adventure... the fix was a quick stop at WalMart and a little re-wiring. It was originally mounted with a ZipTie or two... yeah... I wasn't digging that at all so I decided to grab a spare socket from my stock of Cherokee parts becuase it looks just so damn good

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9849&stc=1&d=1299997908

Then I mounted it in the glovebox

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9850&stc=1&d=1299997908

right next to the Ipod connection.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9851&stc=1&d=1299997908

and then I decided to accessorize :D I got dual USB port adapter so my GoPro will never go dead again and I also got 12V adapter for the laptop so this whole 90minutes of battery power doesn't interfere with the long arduous tuning that will be going on in the very near future :hurray:

[TitaniumTT]

I also got back intouch with RedLineGoods and ordered this little gem to match the custom shifter boot and ebrake boot

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9852&stc=1&d=1299998777

Now... take a good look at the stock S4 armrest with absolutely zero padding and what appears to be a bolt of some sort poking through.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9853&stc=1&d=1299998777

Now... imagine sinking into this for 22 hrs straight.... mmmmmm...... no more sore elbow.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9854&stc=1&d=1299998777

I'm not sure if I'm going to keep them or not. I may transfer them all to the grey interior'ed 'vert and gbet something a few shades darker for this mostly black interior..... thoughts??

I had to pull the stereo to get to the lines to drop the fuel cell...... so I decided to build a few things that I didn't get a chance to do back in December. Yeah.... these are going to be helpful... that's about 6k worth of oil in there :rofl:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9855&stc=1&d=1299998777

I actually did a lot more than that today.... but I'm tired... it's like 3 in morning....

[vex]

Check your emails/.

[helghast7]

Yeah but you got that S4 diff now :suspect: and the things at Daves right now..... so no more excuses for you.

yea i know, once thats in all thats left is the turbo business and im pretty much set

Damn, that does look pretty good. Are you re-routing the WG back into the DP or is it gonna be in your face goodness?

thanks, yea im going to re-route it, as much as id love to keep it out, i like my ears way to much, and i do drive the car on the road fairly often, i might try and work out some sort of quick bolt on thing for the track to make it open

[TitaniumTT]

Nice.... I'm going to run one of those electric cutouts on the WG on my FD. Boost activated too becuase I'll be running one of those trim switchs again so it only opens to the atmosphere when it's 75% of max boost and up. Not quit sure how I'm going to do that yet, but that's how I want to run it.

Still got a lot of things to figure out with that car actually.... it would probably help if I could start working on it :rofl:

Check your emails/.

Did, thanks, check yers ;)

[tweiss3]

Any places to look for cruise with an aftermarket standalone?

[TitaniumTT]

So I figured I'd finish the updates that I started. Got nothing done on the FC yesterday, yesterday was a landi day. Got the bulkhead back in, windshield in, and the harness laid out. It actually looks like a truck again and not the munster mobile tha it's been stuck as for the last 3 weeks:willy_nilly:

So for anyone that saw the FC on the Epic Road Adventure... they knew she was FILTHY..... I didn't know how filthy untill I started working on the rear. A few years back I bought an S5 rear bumper from Fritz Flynn who claimed it was in perfect condition, when it arrived both of the exhaust cutouts were burned... badly :banghead: So I spoke with my body guy and he kinda laughed at the thought of repairing burnt and melted plastic. I thought I'd give it a try. It lasted a year before it fell off. Oh well. On the list was replace the bumper, or go for the carbon Fibre exhaust guards to cover up the nastiness. Chibikougan gave me one HELL of a deal on a set of gaurds so I picked them up.

Here's what I started with..... not bad right?

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9872&stc=1&d=1300109322

Yeah well....... look at it from a different angle :willy_nilly:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9873&stc=1&d=1300109322

I spent quite a long time washing, then compounding, then glazinging and finally waxing the rear bumper. I was pretty surprised to tell the truth, it came right back to life!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9874&stc=1&d=1300109322

But you can see better what I'm talking about regarding the melting. Fritz Flynn.... bad seller!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9875&stc=1&d=1300109322

Then I decided to move onto a few other parts.... namely everthing in the rear of the girl was taken apart and cleaned entirely... check out the film on the tails!

Two decent pics showing just how awefull the buildup was.... nasty

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9876&stc=1&d=1300109322

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9877&stc=1&d=1300109322
Now that's an ass! Spent quite a long time fiddling with the bumper trying to get it straight.... that's much better than it was. The Carbon Exhaust guards fit great.... next is to poish up the tips again and then we're done on this end.

[TitaniumTT]

Now that's an ass! Spent quite a long time fiddling with the bumper trying to get it straight.... that's much better than it was. The Carbon Exhaust guards fit great.... next is to poish up the tips again and then we're done on this end.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9878&stc=1&d=1300109718

Today I should be able to get the new overflow tank built and mounted, and the interior back together so I can take it apart in the next few weeks when I go to drop the 6-spd in, I'll need a new boot for the tranny tunnel... becuase that had to be trimmed to fit the new tranny, and of course drop those Cup-Holders in place if I can ever find them.... ok..... back to work I suppose

[TitaniumTT]

Any places to look for cruise with an aftermarket standalone?

Any aftermkt cruise that works by itself, will work with a standalone. I was looking at the Rostra units. Buddy has one on an insight that I drove... I know... a part of me died inside when I got in that car let alone drive it.... such a gutless car... need to drop to 3rd to get up some hills :smilielol5: The thing worked well though....

[vex]

Nice find on those units. I may have to invest in one later in life.

[tweiss3]

Wow, those rostra units are the complete deal. So much potential for for future projects

[TitaniumTT]

Yup yup.... I thought about it for the FC.... too much to do though. Maybe next winter.... or maybe I should finish this years shit list which still has shit on it from last years shit list before I start a new shit list or add new shit to this continuing shit list of shit to do on this never ending piece of car.

[tweiss3]

Yea, for me, I like to make every car DDable, and for that cruise is important to me.

[TitaniumTT]

Meh, I've never owned a car with cruise.... although I did buy one once. I drove cross country twice without it... it's doable but it can be a nice option

[tweiss3]

Made the straight shot to DFW much easier. Also it really really really keeps me out of trouble

[helghast7]

See that's one thing I really love about the FD, they made them all pretty much the same so they all came with the same features, the fc it's a lot on luck of the find wen it comes to accessories

I actually had to replace my CC motor it took a dump on me one day last year, good thing everyone pulls them out and sells them for dirt cheap

Btw mini update, I've been informed my manifold is done :)

[tweiss3]

my FC has the cruise on it, and yes, i use it a ton

[2gslse]

Brian' when are you going back to Dave's? I just called and scheduled my FD to be re-tuned(its been a few years) on Apr 15th

[TitaniumTT]

See that's one thing I really love about the FD, they made them all pretty much the same so they all came with the same features, the fc it's a lot on luck of the find wen it comes to accessories

I actually had to replace my CC motor it took a dump on me one day last year, good thing everyone pulls them out and sells them for dirt cheap

Btw mini update, I've been informed my manifold is done :)

Kewl, buy WG's and stuff and post pics. So are you going to be single turbo for this years DGRRXI orrrr still on the twins?

my FC has the cruise on it, and yes, i use it a ton

Cruise gets me into trouble. WTF is there to do besides try to steer. I fear that cruise would just help me fall asleep...

Brian' when are you going back to Dave's? I just called and scheduled my FD to be re-tuned(its been a few years) on Apr 15th

I'm waiting for those guys to just set me up with a cot in their breast-feeding room :rofl:

I actually just lost the rest of my weekdays off after this week until 5/2.... then I'll be really short on weekends off :banghead: I sent Dave an email yesterday about getting together to dick around with my 6-spd again either the 9th or the 16th and to sched a dyno playdate on the 23rd... So those are my plans. I know I won't be able to get there on the 15th though... sorry man... Anyone else going with you? Plans to stay in the area overnight?

[2gslse]

I don't know yet I will try to talk to bill tonight we need to get together and put in his flywheel/clutch soon before time gets tight.

[TitaniumTT]

Time is tight now, for me anyway..... Leaving in a week for CA for 2 weeks, and as of right now there's 45 days left, and 25 left when I get back..... not that I have a calender on my wall or anything :rofl:

So Bill is deadset on chasing down that 194 huh? :lol:

[2gslse]

Yeah he is after it... then has his sights set on you with his FC if it ever gets done. I need to get my FB moving and shoot for 350-400 rear-end shredding/grenading horsepower

[WE3RX7]

Damn you all.

I plan to get up to OG racing next weekend to grab some fluids for the trans, brakes and diff on the rx8. I need to order up the rear trans seal too.. .than I can get the clutch/flywheel in and beat down that 194whp,lol.


The FC will dominate, lol... still looking at other potential engines even though I have the REW...

[Force13b]

Time is tight now, for me anyway..... Leaving in a week for CA for 2 weeks, and as of right now there's 45 days left, and 25 left when I get back..... not that I have a calender on my wall or anything :rofl:

So Bill is deadset on chasing down that 194 huh? :lol:

What the hell are you doing out here for 2 weeks?

[TitaniumTT]

Yeah he is after it... then has his sights set on you with his FC if it ever gets done. I need to get my FB moving and shoot for 350-400 rear-end shredding/grenading horsepower

:icon_tup:

I'm not worried about his FC... by the time he's got that thing rolling, let alone moving under it's own power I'll have the FC done, the 'vert done, and then redone with boost, the FD done and you and I will be going back and forth with 400+ rwhp boosted FB's :rofl:

I dunno.... 7 rwhp from a flywheel??? it's possible... what was Dave saying he kept on getting with those? I think it was 7-9. Regardless it'll be fun. I think he needs to change out those shitty GM coils... good thing he's not reading this thread :smilielol5:


Damn you all.

Oh wait.... ooops ;)

I plan to get up to OG racing next weekend to grab some fluids for the trans, brakes and diff on the rx8. I need to order up the rear trans seal too.. .than I can get the clutch/flywheel in and beat down that 194whp,lol.

You guys gotta lemme know when you're heading up there. I should have the FC running by the 15/16th... and I gotta get down there anyway to muck around with this damn tranny some more


The FC will dominate, lol... still looking at other potential engines even though I have the REW...

Takes more than an engine to dominate.... gearing adds so much acceleration it's frightening, and gearing is something we've almost got down, ..... as does traction control, and launch control... and boost vs gear, boost vs TPS, etc etc.... it's a good thing Haltech is on the cutting edge :smilielol5:

[TitaniumTT]

What the hell are you doing out here for 2 weeks?

Someone in DHS is calling in the big cockgun :rofl: So you've been given fair warning and fair amount of time to get yer ass down to DHS.... I suspect I'll be there from 3/20 to 4/2. That's the plan as of now.

[chibikougan]

Now that's an ass! Spent quite a long time fiddling with the bumper trying to get it straight.... that's much better than it was. The Carbon Exhaust guards fit great.... next is to poish up the tips again and then we're done on this end.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9878&stc=1&d=1300109718

Today I should be able to get the new overflow tank built and mounted, and the interior back together so I can take it apart in the next few weeks when I go to drop the 6-spd in, I'll need a new boot for the tranny tunnel... becuase that had to be trimmed to fit the new tranny, and of course drop those Cup-Holders in place if I can ever find them.... ok..... back to work I suppose


Mmmm they look better then I ever could have imagined!

[2gslse]

Dave said he sees about 5 hp from the flywheel so its close I may have to uncork my exhaust by removing the cat if it is too close,besides it was my first dyno with the rx8 and its my DD not a running project/moneypit that is what the FB(Fu*king Broke) and FD(Financial Disaster) are for

[helghast7]

my FC has the cruise on it, and yes, i use it a ton

i wasnt refering to your car anyways, but if you have it already then why say you need another one? almost all the systems on the FC are independent of each other, if you get a stand alone the CC wont even realize it

but dont quote me on that, the FC has been known to have retarded wiring, with things that are not needed being there and other things being MIA and on and on....ive found connectors i still have no clue what use they may have had :lol:


Kewl, buy WG's and stuff and post pics. So are you going to be single turbo for this years DGRRXI orrrr still on the twins?

idk we will see how the funds go, the biggest thing left is finding a good price on the turbo i want, so far the best number i found was 1480 shipped, im still doing some digging to see if anyone can beat that

only time will tell

Cruise gets me into trouble. WTF is there to do besides try to steer. I fear that cruise would just help me fall asleep...

hahaha i have so much fun with CC, i feel like im david hasselhoff and i have the KIT car whenever you go up a hill the car enters boost on its own

i always find myself saying "thank you kit" :lol:

barrels of fun


btw brian, you can still get mazda comp stuff right?

[TitaniumTT]

Dave said he sees about 5 hp from the flywheel so its close I may have to uncork my exhaust by removing the cat if it is too close,besides it was my first dyno with the rx8 and its my DD not a running project/moneypit that is what the FB(Fu*king Broke) and FD(Financial Disaster) are for

:rofl: I'd say something about the cobb, but I don't know where to start! There's got to be more you can do than uncork the exhaust.... Damn, if we could play with timing... you could definately take it up a notch...This instigating is fun :)

Why don't you have an FC?

Mmmm they look better then I ever could have imagined!

They are sexy. thanks man! But not really.... cuz now I need to polish the tips

i wasnt refering to your car anyways, but if you have it already then why say you need another one? almost all the systems on the FC are independent of each other, if you get a stand alone the CC wont even realize it

but dont quote me on that, the FC has been known to have retarded wiring, with things that are not needed being there and other things being MIA and on and on....ive found connectors i still have no clue what use they may have had :lol:

In the S4 world. I've seen that most of them are pretty much the same. The only difference that I've seen is in the rear harness, some have the rear window wiring, some don't, but as far as I remember, the front and EM harnesses are all the sameeeeeeee.... eeeeeee save the obvious n/a turbo differences.

idk we will see how the funds go, the biggest thing left is finding a good price on the turbo i want, so far the best number i found was 1480 shipped, im still doing some digging to see if anyone can beat that

only time will tell

sooooooo, you'll be running down to Deals on twins then?

hahaha i have so much fun with CC, i feel like im david hasselhoff and i have the KIT car whenever you go up a hill the car enters boost on its own

i always find myself saying "thank you kit" :lol:

barrels of fun

:smilielol5: Builds boost on it's own.... at least it still works.

The one thing with installing them in the FC with a standalone, where to get the required signals? I would do a Hall Effect sensor off the driveshaft personally, or some other way other than tapping into the ignition system.


btw brian, you can still get mazda comp stuff right?

Don't think so. You can usually setup an account before you've finished your car if you think you're going to race.

[WE3RX7]

:rofl: I'd say something about the cobb, but I don't know where to start! There's got to be more you can do than uncork the exhaust.... Damn, if we could play with timing... you could definately take it up a notch...This instigating is fun :)

Why don't you have an FC?



He doesn't want an FC because there would be no point to building a car.. he'd already have the perfect one.

I would like to play with the timing some on the cobb with the GM coils. I actually took some of Dave's adjustment and built a new map for the rx8 as well. When we go back up for the dyno, I'll run it on the stock tune (which we proved was by far the best thus far) and then again with the new map and see where we are. I dont want to dive into tuning the timing at that point, I'd rather get some more monitoring in place (EGT, etc) before getting too far into it.

Anyway... sorry for the thread jack. Actually, I'm not. Without thread jacks, this would just be another boring turbo swap FC build thread that nobody really pays attention to and is only destined to end as they all do with the owner scrapping the whole idea and going V8 :)

[2gslse]

[QUOTE=TitaniumTT;143470]:rofl: I'd say something about the cobb, but I don't know where to start! There's got to be more you can do than uncork the exhaust.... Damn, if we could play with timing... you could definately take it up a notch...This instigating is fun :)

Why don't you have an FC?


Had a FC at one time it was a bare-bones '86 no sunroof,steel wheeled,aluminum hood car fun to drive but wasn't my style I sold it for a profit and bought FB parts. I've always loved the FB's lines more than the FC.

[TitaniumTT]

He doesn't want an FC because there would be no point to building a car.. he'd already have the perfect one.

:rofl:

I would like to play with the timing some on the cobb with the GM coils. I actually took some of Dave's adjustment and built a new map for the rx8 as well. When we go back up for the dyno, I'll run it on the stock tune (which we proved was by far the best thus far) and then again with the new map and see where we are. I dont want to dive into tuning the timing at that point, I'd rather get some more monitoring in place (EGT, etc) before getting too far into it.

eeeeehhhhhh..... I think you're just waiting till you have some more time/coin to dump into the ole' 8 chasing that elusive 195... I think I was doing that with 2 puked turbo's ;)

Anyway... sorry for the thread jack. Actually, I'm not. Without thread jacks, this would just be another boring turbo swap FC build thread that nobody really pays attention to and is only destined to end as they all do with the owner scrapping the whole idea and going V8 :)

haahahahahahaahahahaaa..... A) y'all know I would never do a v8 into an FC.... I would swap out for a cosworth, or some exotic boosted 4 clyinder, or a v6 twin turbo... but never an LS.... see below

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=9893&stc=1&d=1300157981

2nd.... more importantly.... AT LEAST MY THREAD GETS REGULAR UPDATES!!!!!!1 :smilielol5:

Had a FC at one time it was a bare-bones '86 no sunroof,steel wheeled,aluminum hood car fun to drive but wasn't my style I sold it for a profit and bought FB parts. I've always loved the FB's lines more than the FC.

Steel wheeled? Not stock were they?

I thought the exterior lines of the FD>FC>FB but interior was FD>FB>FC bang for the buck..... well.... none :rofl:

[hades]

I wonder if LS1's have exhaust sleeve issues:dunno:




















:willy_nilly::smilielol5::lol::biggrinjester:

[TitaniumTT]

:toetap05:

Touche

Yeah well......................................... at least the blocks are still worth rebuilding when they give it up on a rotary. Show me an LS that can be put back together in a week with a $200 o-ring kit and $160 worth of machining and still put down near 400hp

[hades]

:grouphug:

bought my tickets so I'll see you in a little over a month. yeah, yeah - I know flying its for pussies. :driving:

[TitaniumTT]

COOL!! As long as you get there I guess. Looks like I'll be picking someone up from CA @ JFK and driving down with him....

[helghast7]

In the S4 world. I've seen that most of them are pretty much the same. The only difference that I've seen is in the rear harness, some have the rear window wiring, some don't, but as far as I remember, the front and EM harnesses are all the sameeeeeeee.... eeeeeee save the obvious n/a turbo differences.

yea but their vast differences in that harness, which btw after studying the fsm i swear ive found plugs that arent even in the book, it makes no sense

sooooooo, you'll be running down to Deals on twins then?

idk man, i wanna go but shits kinda weird with everyone, theirs like little weird stuff goin on, makes things really uncomfortable

but thats not the real thing that would stop me, its all about the money mang, spare funds aint lookin to big at the moment and ive got a lot on my plate, if things simmer down by then i can see myself making it

:smilielol5: Builds boost on it's own.... at least it still works.
well it used to do that, there taking the slow dump so currently their lag monsters and break up on high end so no KIT car for me now :(

i miss it oh so much

KIT COME BACK!!!!! lol

The one thing with installing them in the FC with a standalone, where to get the required signals? I would do a Hall Effect sensor off the driveshaft personally, or some other way other than tapping into the ignition system.

well i know for the fd it uses the spedo sensor and the NSS, idk about the fc since i never had...well anything on that car

i would imagine since CC came on the higher end models that it gets the signal somewere from one of the VSS since at least the s4 uses a real spedo cable, i dont think it would use that

but really thats all you would need to make it a closed system since it has its own little module...unless mazdatrix has been lying to us all these years :smilielol5:


Don't think so. You can usually setup an account before you've finished your car if you think you're going to race.

damn, Dave said mazda comp diff mounts for the FD were the best ones to get and you were the only person i could think of that could get them..i gotta figure this out

haahahahahahaahahahaaa..... A) y'all know I would never do a v8 into an FC.... I would swap out for a cosworth, or some exotic boosted 4 clyinder, or a v6 twin turbo... but never an LS.... see below
idk man, if i had the bank i would love to throw a v8 in the ol FC..just not an LS

have you ever heard a 360 modena's 3.6l v8 scream? pure sex

Steel wheeled? Not stock were they?

ohhh man i used to have those phone dials...god aweful

I thought the exterior lines of the FD>FC>FB but interior was FD>FB>FC bang for the buck..... well.... none :rofl:
:o21: FD pwns lol

[helghast7]

I wonder if LS1's have exhaust sleeve issues:dunno:

:toetap05:

Touche

Yeah well......................................... at least the blocks are still worth rebuilding when they give it up on a rotary. Show me an LS that can be put back together in a week with a $200 o-ring kit and $160 worth of machining and still put down near 400hp

you know its funny you guys brought that up, i always hear this battle about which is better and what not

but i realized after talking with my bosses at my new job that it all kind of evens out in the long run, my boss said that to build his engine how he wants it to make good power would cost him around 30k on just engine related expenses

where i may blow my engine a lot sooner, but i can make power to keep a close race with his car and still have money to rebuild mine at least 3 times with that much money :lol:

[2gslse]

Yep the steelies on the FC were stock it was an odd car and pretty early production date IIRC the car didn't even have storage bins or power steering the only thing the car had was cold A/C and radio I dont remember if it had a tape deck or not.

On the CC for the FC I think it is like a FB and the cruise control box recieves its signal through the speedometer in the cluster so without it the system won't work.

[TitaniumTT]

idk man, i wanna go but shits kinda weird with everyone, theirs like little weird stuff goin on, makes things really uncomfortable

What? Seriously? PM some stuff... that shut pisses me off.

well it used to do that, there taking the slow dump so currently their lag monsters and break up on high end so no KIT car for me now :(

i miss it oh so much

KIT COME BACK!!!!! lol

Yeah, don't make the same mistake as me and head out fi you think they're getting ready to puke.... just ain't work swapping turbo's like that. Good news is, if they do puke, BNR is closer than home.... get a little stage 3 on :rofl:

well i know for the fd it uses the spedo sensor and the NSS, idk about the fc since i never had...well anything on that car

i would imagine since CC came on the higher end models that it gets the signal somewere from one of the VSS since at least the s4 uses a real spedo cable, i dont think it would use that

but really thats all you would need to make it a closed system since it has its own little module...unless mazdatrix has been lying to us all these years :smilielol5:

That aftermkt Rostra unit can take just about any speed type sensor. Ignition pickups, speed pickups, halleffect sensors mounted on the driveshaft... whatever. The one problem I have, is the controls are sinfully ugly.

damn, Dave said mazda comp diff mounts for the FD were the best ones to get and you were the only person i could think of that could get them..i gotta figure this out

Mazdatrix or racing beat? I can probably get you a number for them and then throw it into the comp at a regular Mazda-Dealership?

idk man, if i had the bank i would love to throw a v8 in the ol FC..just not an LS

have you ever heard a 360 modena's 3.6l v8 scream? pure sex

Assuming you could get one, do you know how much sex you could buy with about $30k? I'm assuming about $20k for the engine

ohhh man i used to have those phone dials...god aweful
:o21: FD pwns lol

Watch it, my FC came with those phonedials back in the day

you know its funny you guys brought that up, i always hear this battle about which is better and what not

but i realized after talking with my bosses at my new job that it all kind of evens out in the long run, my boss said that to build his engine how he wants it to make good power would cost him around 30k on just engine related expenses

where i may blow my engine a lot sooner, but i can make power to keep a close race with his car and still have money to rebuild mine at least 3 times with that much money :lol:

For that coin I could have a 700bhp n/a 4 rotor that would kick his little LS's ass

What are we gonna do about these wiper switchs?

Yep the steelies on the FC were stock it was an odd car and pretty early production date IIRC the car didn't even have storage bins or power steering the only thing the car had was cold A/C and radio I dont remember if it had a tape deck or not.

Seriously? No storage bins and no rear seats... stocker steel wheels.... I'm intriguerd.

On the CC for the FC I think it is like a FB and the cruise control box recieves its signal through the speedometer in the cluster so without it the system won't work.

I believe it recieves the needed signal off the ignition system. I think the speedo/OD on the FC was all cable driven.

I could be wrong though. Never had cruise, thought about putting it on, grabbed the parts from a pick-'n-pull back in the day, still have them, just never put them on.... now I can't

[vex]

Why not just modify the stock system to use the Rostra unit? That's my plan anyways.

Either that or use an output for a linear actuator for use on the throttle body directly from the ECU. Just need to get the output right to maintain the speed.

[TitaniumTT]

Linear actuators generally require multiple outputs, I wouldn't waste them on an ECU even if the ECU had the capability, which I've never seen one have. The Rostra unit looks like it's totally self-contained, so why mess with it? Give it power, gnd, and a signal and it should be ready to roll.

I know you'll be running a non-stock tb, but wouldn't it be easier to adapt the cable to the tb than go through all the hassles involved with making electronics work together? Ideally the cable would be shorter, and all you'd need is a swedge in the proper spot and you're good to go.... no?

[tweiss3]

Yea, I wouldn't fuck with the stock and trying to hack it together to work with the ecu. Keep it seperate, keep it clean, and it should work better. Their kits are very well put together from what I saw.

[vex]

Eh, it's a long ways off yet. I have other, more important things to deal with before I even get to that step (I've put in a request for Haltech to be able to use the stepper motor function as a cruise control, I don't know how many inputs it will take to use the stock control).

[TitaniumTT]

Stock cruise control is a seperate unit. Feed it a speed or RPM signal and it should work like stock.

Can Haltech even do a DBW?

[vex]

The stock cruise control unit I had ran off vacuum and input from a switch (I don't even think it ran through a computer, but if it did, I doubt it would be good enough now).

I don't know what DBW is. The Haltech has built in stepper motor control (something I have no need of right now, but can be used later for closed loop control of variable length runners ;) or cruise control if they implement the feature)

[TitaniumTT]

DBW = Drive By Wire

[vex]

No. They do not have DBW (yet). Though I imagine it's would not be that hard to implement in the first place. It would be nothing more than accepting an input from a potentiometer and then outputting that input to a stepper motor (it would also eliminate a TPS).