Diary of a Madman; TitaniumTT's see you @ DGRRXI RE-REbuild [Archive] - Page 6

TitaniumTT

06-15-2011, 09:02 PM

I post a pic up of a large single turbo and all the sudden TTT falls off the face of the earth (well forum land at least). I hope all that single turbo glory didn't send him into some kind of Red Bull powered, man in the tower, suicide by officer kind of boost hating killing spree. After all, you don't get the interwebs in jail :)

Nope.... not yet anyways.... Been working my ass off. Grabbed a handful of new boats, and chipping away at a laundry list of repairs and other shit at work.... but not at work... but pays oh so well.... so yeah... haven't been around much. Lets put it this way... Today was supposed to be a day off. i was there for 4 hours around noon, left to go to a vet appt, went BACK to work around 6:30 to replace the power trim unit on a boat I want in the water so I can bill the dude for the $1550 he owes me. The new guy asked me today, "do you ever get tired of this place?" "Yes, but I never get tired of money." :smilielol5:

TitaniumTT

06-15-2011, 09:04 PM

no shit where did he go?

I bet he will come if we start rumors that he is in bed with Mar3. :suspect:

Well if he was man enough to come over here I'd make him my bitch. I've got two accounts back on suckclub.com :rofl:

TitaniumTT

06-15-2011, 09:09 PM

Fixed!!!

I think he is in a redbull induced coma or a secret project that he doesn't want to talk about.

Nope.... but I did stock up so tomorrow when I wake up @ 6:30 I'll have a redbull and a coffee and get right to work. Tomorrow I'm building a belly pan, ducting the brakes, adjusting the new wheel bearings, touching myself while I've got the lube out, tightening up the steering rack, changing the steering shaft, installing a vacuum block...... I think that's it :rofl:

Secret project will start on saturday when I go pick up a new engine :suspect: Buy redbull stock... that's all I'm saying... oh, even more secret project a landmass away sometime in early July... :lurk5:

TitaniumTT

06-15-2011, 09:09 PM

see just mention his love for Mar3 and BDC and he appears!!

I have eyes and ears that you can only imagine :smilielol5:

2gslse

06-15-2011, 09:23 PM

If you have so much to do why are you sleeping in till 0630? I wish I could sleep in that late today at 630 I was halfway through changing a blown sightglass on a boiler and getting ready for a generator test at 0700 it has been nothing but assholes and elbows all week so I feel your pain.

WE3RX7

06-15-2011, 09:29 PM

Bunch of slackers... I've got to get up and be on a command bus (dont ask) at 6ish (meaning on the road by 4:30) since we have to put together a communications rally with the feds on Friday and even though its NOT my job to take care of certain things... I'm the one they trust, lol. Good news is, I'll be home early enough to play a little with my own "secret project".

I think we'll have a lot of secrets revealed at DGRRXII!!!

TitaniumTT

06-15-2011, 09:30 PM

Sleeping till 06:30 because I'll be up till at least 02:00 ;) Work work don't usually start until 07:30 but can go to 23:00 on some nights. Saturday is a big bene concert and I'll be on the clock till 02:00, maybe later.

WE3RX7

06-15-2011, 09:36 PM

I'm hoping Boston wins as well... just an FYI....

2gslse

06-15-2011, 09:38 PM

It sucks being one of the few that can either do everything or be willing to do almost anything to get it done doesn't it? my motto at work if I don't know anything about it is I'm either gonna fix it up or F*ck it up

TitaniumTT

06-15-2011, 10:14 PM

I'm hoping Boston wins as well... just an FYI....

Good, now I don't have to torch your house... then ban you ;)

AWOOOOOHOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1 CONGRATS BOSTON BRUINS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It sucks being one of the few that can either do everything or be willing to do almost anything to get it done doesn't it?

Yes, yes it does..... but whatever.... it's the way we are.

my motto at work if I don't know anything about it is I'm either gonna fix it up or F*ck it up

:smilielol5: NICE!!!!! I'll have to use that at somepoint ;)

MaczPayne

06-18-2011, 12:37 AM

If you still have access, Brian, check this out:

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=904374&highlight=trailer

TitaniumTT

06-18-2011, 08:15 AM

Yeah, I've seen that before, hommie earned that license plate of his. My trailer will be VERY similar, expect steel, and a regular sprung axle. 40lb tongue weight is too light. If he's worried about ease of moving it around.... learn how to back up a trailer or get a dolly :rofl: As I think the whole trailer will be a little light and want to bounce/wander at higher speeds, more tongue weight will go a way to control it. UGH..... Limerock on thursday and I haven't even started building my trailer... time FAIL

2gslse

06-18-2011, 01:18 PM

I think you should use a rear clip for an FC as a trailer. find an old convertable that has been wrecked build a tongue/rack for your race tires the trunk can be the toolbox and use the original fuel tank with a transfer pump and wiring for extra travel capacity

just startn

06-18-2011, 04:49 PM

2gslse

06-18-2011, 06:21 PM

dont take my idea!

I've seen pics of an FB before but thought the vert would be better suited for it.
I looked at your thread for your vert WOW!!! when you say restoration you mean it most people clean, paint and rebuild everything but few actually cut off the panels and do the structure

WE3RX7

06-18-2011, 09:28 PM

most people clean, paint and rebuild everything but few actually cut off the panels and do the structure

What do you mean "most people".... I see how it's gonna be :suspect:

TitaniumTT

06-19-2011, 03:34 AM

The trailer things been done, albeit poorly.... Where's this epic 'vert build..... I may want to see a finished project :suspect:

WOOOOTT!!!! Sooooooooooo gues who just finished work..... yeah, like work work @ 4:00 am..... lesigh.... 22 hrs straight.... 3 hr of sleep, then back to a normal day.... ugh....

2gslse

06-19-2011, 07:59 AM

Why do you even bother going home? you should just take the dogs to work with you so you can feed them and then get some sleep on a boat instead of commuting each way

TitaniumTT

06-19-2011, 09:02 AM

:rofl: I'm not sure........

just startn

06-19-2011, 04:50 PM

The trailer things been done, albeit poorly.... Where's this epic 'vert build..... I may want to see a finished project :suspect:

Well, between working 14hrs a day, being a full time student, building 2 customer cars atm, blown up air compressor, no gas in the welder not much has got done. I have managed to get the mock up main hoop for the cage setup. few other things here and there. my goal is to make it to DGRR next year

TitaniumTT

06-19-2011, 06:03 PM

Cool cool.... but where's the build thread?

just startn

06-19-2011, 06:49 PM

Its in the build thread section i think.

TitaniumTT

06-19-2011, 10:14 PM

As long as it's here and not on the evil club, I won't feel compelled to send someone to terminate your 'vert ;)

TitaniumTT

06-21-2011, 06:33 PM

I sense a short term spike in red bull sales tonight in prep for Thursday :suspect:

hades

06-24-2011, 08:36 PM

where are the mother fucking pictures? :dunno:

sorry. I is horny for fabrication pictures.

TitaniumTT

06-24-2011, 09:50 PM

I got something better for you if I don't pass out before I get to it :kiss:

TitaniumTT

06-25-2011, 08:37 AM

Yeah, so I totally passed out last night before the vid even loaded to youtube :rofl:

And now I'm off to work so I leave you with these 3 teasers and a short vid for all you STi lovers out there. :puke:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10636&stc=1&d=1309008576

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10637&stc=1&d=1309008576

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10638&stc=1&d=1309008576

I was going to make a cutout for the fan and use some of that mesh material that I used on the hood underneath the vent, but after 90ish miles in the rain at high rates of speed.... as in 114mph down the front strait (see vid and listen for wheel spin in 4th @ ~105-110 :willy_nilly:) and the engine bay being completely dry..... I don't think I'm going too.

ScEOOlnMYSc

WE3RX7

06-25-2011, 09:06 AM

I'm ashamed you haven't powdercoated those parts yet!

Looks pretty damn good though man. Must have had a nice wet day out there. Ironic that a RWD rotary blew off an AWD I-4 on a straight like that. Your traction control working now?

TitaniumTT

06-25-2011, 09:32 PM

I'm ashamed you haven't powdercoated those parts yet!

I know, She'll be back up on jackstands on Monday/Tuesday to inspect the brakes. Dude.... GET CARBOTECHS!!!!! BED THEM IN AND GET COMFORTABLE WITH THEM. They are incredible in the modulation department which, as far as I'm concerned, is the most important thing for pads. Heat management is for rotors and ducting. I'm sold on Carbotechs. I was out for 30 minutes on the last session and smelled the brakes when I was getting comfy with them and braking hard and trail braking through turn 1. I FINALLY after 14 years of FC brakes have total confidence in my brakes and I'm still adding rear bias.

Looks pretty damn good though man. Must have had a nice wet day out there. Ironic that a RWD rotary blew off an AWD I-4 on a straight like that. Your traction control working now?

pssssssssshhhhh... pure POWA baby ;) Traction and Launch Control is working now, but I turned it off for the event. Was more comfortable with it off. Still haven't gotten used to just letting the MoTeC keep the ass in check and I was a little concerned that between the traction control and me lifting and controlling the slide with my foot (by sheer force of habit) it would whip the other way. So I turned it off. I'll be out with my old Azenis' or my RA1's in the wet around town to get used to the TC

2gslse

06-26-2011, 07:35 AM

JhnRX7

06-26-2011, 08:56 AM

j9fd3s

06-26-2011, 01:01 PM

I know, She'll be back up on jackstands on Monday/Tuesday to inspect the brakes. Dude.... GET CARBOTECHS!!!!! BED THEM IN AND GET COMFORTABLE WITH THEM. They are incredible in the modulation department which, as far as I'm concerned,

you should try the performance friction stuff. our drivers liked the carbotechs, but they LOVE the PFC pads.

they had us guinea pig a couple of compounds, so they will do specials too. we have honda pads with the daytona prototype compound, for example.

modulation is better PFC vs carbotechs, wear is incredible we can run the same set of pads for 25 hours straight. wear on the rotors is basically zero.

its amazing really, remember when hawk blues were good?

TitaniumTT

06-26-2011, 09:36 PM

Lookin good about time we see some action shots. I am willing to bet you run with traction control OFF more than with it on since you learned how to drive before it was available. I turned the TC off on the 8 all winter if the weather was bad I would rather feel it slip a bit than have the powerloss every time I pull out into an intersection. Do you drive the Jeep in the snow mostly in 2WD or 4WD?

The only time I put the truck into 4wd is when I get it stuck, or if I'm moving a trailer I use 4wd Low just to get that reduction and slow everything down when backing big trailers into small spaces, or pull the boat out of the water. Truck makes enough torque that the Idle Air control valve will just rip the boat right out of the water.

The nice thing about the MoTeC traction control is that it's "progressive," and I can set it up however I want. So I can allow a certain amount of wheel spin which I think will be beneficial. Eventually I'd like to get comfy enough and get it setup well enough that I can just flat-foot the throttle and let the TC keep the rear somewhat in line while accelerating as hard as possible.

TitaniumTT

06-26-2011, 09:59 PM

Looks great. Sucks that it rained for the track day.

The ducting looks great, I like the integration into the undertray. Is that 2.5" ducting? Are you working on a shield to seal up the back sides of the rotors?

I wish I had a welder... sigh :(

It was a great experience nonetheless. Good place to learn the brakes. They did a lot better than I thought, and the tires held much better than I anticipated.

It is 2.5" ducting, and no I don't have plans to make a dust shield for the rear of the rotors mainly because of the TC wheel and sensor. I'll talk to a few people but my gut is that it won't make that much of a difference. If I was going to get any brake fade, I think I would've gotten it. I was hauling the car from 110-114 down to 48-52 every 80 seconds with a pair of other hard braking zones and this happened for about a 1/2 hr. I could smell the brakes in the car, but they were still the definition of consitant.

TitaniumTT

06-26-2011, 10:09 PM

you should try the performance friction stuff. our drivers liked the carbotechs, but they LOVE the PFC pads.

they had us guinea pig a couple of compounds, so they will do specials too. we have honda pads with the daytona prototype compound, for example.

modulation is better PFC vs carbotechs, wear is incredible we can run the same set of pads for 25 hours straight. wear on the rotors is basically zero.

its amazing really, remember when hawk blues were good?

I'll give them a try when these things wear down. I haven't had them off the car yet to inspect them but there was definately a little wear on the rotors. I do remember back in the day when Hawk was the shit, not only because they were better than just about anything, but because they were really the only option. I'll be putting them on the 'vert, that much I do know.

I can't find any application specific notes though. I'm not running stock cali's and wondering cost/availabilty of them

j9fd3s

06-28-2011, 11:29 AM

I'll give them a try when these things wear down. I haven't had them off the car yet to inspect them but there was definately a little wear on the rotors. I do remember back in the day when Hawk was the shit, not only because they were better than just about anything, but because they were really the only option. I'll be putting them on the 'vert, that much I do know.

I can't find any application specific notes though. I'm not running stock cali's and wondering cost/availabilty of them

hmm, worst case you can call them, but some where on their website there is a bunch of drawings for pads they make so you can see if they make something for your caliper.

helghast7

09-09-2011, 09:34 PM

Brian!!! im alive!!!

PhillipM

09-12-2011, 08:46 AM

you should try the performance friction stuff. our drivers liked the carbotechs, but they LOVE the PFC pads.

they had us guinea pig a couple of compounds, so they will do specials too. we have honda pads with the daytona prototype compound, for example.

modulation is better PFC vs carbotechs, wear is incredible we can run the same set of pads for 25 hours straight. wear on the rotors is basically zero.

its amazing really, remember when hawk blues were good?

Hmm, we went the other way, went away from PF as although the outright power was perhaps slightly higher with PF01's, found them inconsistant with temperature + wet weather, and a lot harder on the rotors than the Carbotechs, we used to suffer with the odd cracked rotor on the PF's that disappeared with the Carbotech pads.
If you're on XP8's TT then you should find after your day of track abuse they will have laid down a nice transfer layer on the disc, and pad + disc wear should drop dramatically.

project86

09-14-2011, 07:38 AM

I really like that undertray

helghast7

09-19-2011, 10:01 PM

what happened to this place? why is it so dead?

WE3RX7

09-20-2011, 05:38 PM

Brian is MIA, lol...

2gslse

09-20-2011, 06:52 PM

He's out driving the FC and building a trailer.

TitaniumTT

09-21-2011, 07:34 AM

He's out driving the FC and building a trailer.

How do you know? You've been SPYING ON ME!!!!!!

2gslse

09-21-2011, 03:50 PM

How do you know? You've been SPYING ON ME!!!!!!

A little bit.

I have been busy lately but have gotten my shortblock RE together and saving up for the fuel system what fuel rails would you run (affordable) and I will prob try to use Injector Dynamics injectors when the time comes.

helghast7

09-21-2011, 06:24 PM

he is alive!!! lol

TitaniumTT

09-25-2011, 10:22 PM

he is alive!!! lol

Yup, been beyond busy though.....

A little bit.

I have been busy lately but have gotten my shortblock RE together and saving up for the fuel system what fuel rails would you run (affordable) and I will prob try to use Injector Dynamics injectors when the time comes.

ID injectors are the only way to go.

As for fue rails, go with the CJ motorsports REW primary rail and the extreme Rotaries seconday rail. I likey them very very much.

helghast7

10-14-2011, 09:09 PM

MaczPayne

10-15-2011, 03:35 AM

I need to see your new wheel/tire setup!

TitaniumTT

10-15-2011, 12:34 PM

hey brian, do you still happen to have the stock calipers we talked about way back when?

fc's back on the road but she needs all new calipers...shes not stopping very well lol

and maybe an fd power steering pump and a decent set of twins? lol

Sorry man, I ain't got none of those parts...

I need to see your new wheel/tire setup!
I know! Hopefully I'll be on the track tomorrow and get a few good pics & vids :D

RX SE7EN

10-15-2011, 12:45 PM

helghast7

10-15-2011, 02:59 PM

ehh its ok brian, just spoke with dave today, ive got a game plan lol

its my fault ive been MIA for so long, missed u guys, i gotta stop by one day and say hi n catch up, u still want those wiper switches? i found them a month back and brought them to a spot in my house that i see them at all times

I've got a power steering pump if you need one.

cool, it works no problem? how much u want for it?

Mazdabater

10-15-2011, 06:14 PM

I have a fucking mint set of twins sitting in my garage, series 7 I'm pretty sure, I can't seem to get rid of them 100 + postage if you want em. Came off the rew block I got for my fc, no scratches on the housings and every accessory came off like new. Postage from aus would be the expensive part.

WE3RX7

10-16-2011, 06:57 PM

track time is over.. where are those pics?

JhnRX7

10-30-2011, 04:56 PM

track time is over.. where are those pics?

:biggthumpup:

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6034/6296452026_dedc9e1426_b.jpg

WE3RX7

10-30-2011, 06:28 PM

Nice shot.... but what isnt in that photo is the blue FC that just lapped him. Oh wait... thats next year...

Those are good pics though seriously, do you all have more?

TitaniumTT

10-30-2011, 08:11 PM

Lemme adjust this for ya Bill

Nice shot.... but what isnt in that photo is the blue FC that just lapped him. Oh wait... thats next mellenia...

Those are good pics though seriously, do you all have more?

Yes, yes they are. John and Dan took some beautiful first rate shots.

project86

10-30-2011, 11:17 PM

that picture was fantasic

helghast7

10-31-2011, 06:12 PM

awesome shot, im jealous

WE3RX7

10-31-2011, 07:21 PM

Lemme adjust this for ya Bill

Maybe I'm just waiting to finish my FC when you build an FD capable of keeping up with it :)

TitaniumTT

10-31-2011, 07:54 PM

It already does! In fact, it might be faster.... it has wheels, it rolls :smilielol5: Last time I saw your FC, she was on jackstands ;)

helghast7

11-14-2011, 09:13 PM

how are the cars doing?

TitaniumTT

11-14-2011, 09:50 PM

Great! Haven't touched the FD, haven't touched the 'vert, and the FC left the track last weekend on a flatbed, stil don't know what the underlying issue is, need to get the turbos rebuilt, and I've got to crack the keg open, so glad I still have the landli and an m1008 to deal with AND an emmissions test before the 23rd so I can keep my reg :banghead: I hate cars...

On a different note though, I will be starting full time @ Speed1 on 12/5 :D

2gslse

11-14-2011, 09:55 PM

Hmmmm... something tells me you will be very busy this winter

TitaniumTT

11-14-2011, 10:13 PM

Why... what are you bringing up to play with :D

2gslse

11-14-2011, 10:33 PM

Nothing yet but starting to work on my old FB. I will be needing some exhaust and intercooler piping done for sure though hopefully this winter I can make some progress. Are you moving to Pa. or commuting in during the week and back home on weekends?

TitaniumTT

11-14-2011, 10:53 PM

Moving to PA, but I suspect I'll be back in CT twice a month during the winter, and I MAY be back once a week in the summer to take care of my boats... I really can't turn that coin away and the way I can see the sched working, it should work out just great.

What are you using for an ECU, and do you have a harness already made for it? We've spoken about the intercooler and exhaust piping... hell yeah man, bring it up!

helghast7

11-14-2011, 11:32 PM

holy shit! congrats! now i only have to drive one place for all my fab and info needs lol

WE3RX7

11-14-2011, 11:49 PM

On a different note though, I will be starting full time @ Speed1 on 12/5 :D

First off - YAY!! You will now be my fabrication bitch...

Seriously glad to hear that though man. It'll be nice to get you closer to VA and I know Dave could really put you to work! But don't think this makes you too good to respond to PMs :rofl:

Whizbang

11-15-2011, 02:40 AM

what part of PA are you moving too?

2gslse

11-15-2011, 04:18 AM

[QUOTE=TitaniumTT;
What are you using for an ECU, and do you have a harness already made for it? We've spoken about the intercooler and exhaust piping... hell yeah man, bring it up![/QUOTE]

I'm going to use a Haltech platinum 1000 (not everyone needs high tech Motec) I don't have the harness built for it yet either its on my long list of crap to be done once the engine is in the car we will need to talk once things start coming together more. its gonna be a busy year coming up there a few major jobs and not enough time in the day to do them all and I will be slammed at work beginning in Jan my other half at work is retiring and no replacement in sight yet.

knonfs

11-15-2011, 08:05 AM

emmissions test before the 23rd so I can keep my reg :banghead: I hate cars...

Emissions on the FC? Mans you are are on a tight schedule!

On a different note though, I will be starting full time @ Speed1 on 12/5 :D

Yeah yeah, you will be an asset to the shop, no doubt about it :patriot:

TitaniumTT

11-15-2011, 10:07 AM

holy shit! congrats! now i only have to drive one place for all my fab and info needs lol

:rofl:

First off - YAY!! You will now be my fabrication bitch...

Seriously glad to hear that though man. It'll be nice to get you closer to VA and I know Dave could really put you to work! But don't think this makes you too good to respond to PMs :rofl:

I ain't noones bitch..... bitch :lol:

That's what a few people have said, Yay, you're closer to me now! I guess the Hudson is some monstrous geographic boundry for some :smilielol5:

Yeah well, sorry bout that..... when you start posting pics of this so called "progress," I'll start reponding to pm's ;)

TitaniumTT

11-15-2011, 10:13 AM

what part of PA are you moving too?

The sop is in Lenhartsville, which is 15-20 miles west of Allentown, you can throw a stone and hit 78, literally. Im going to be withen a 20 minute drive of the shop

I'm going to use a Haltech platinum 1000 (not everyone needs high tech Motec) I don't have the harness built for it yet either its on my long list of crap to be done once the engine is in the car we will need to talk once things start coming together more. its gonna be a busy year coming up there a few major jobs and not enough time in the day to do them all and I will be slammed at work beginning in Jan my other half at work is retiring and no replacement in sight yet.

I know that feeling all to well. You should have us build the harness, you want us to build the harness, we will build the harness :lol: Seriously though, remember my harness? All the raychem, milspec connectors, bulkhead release etc etc etc.... yeah... let's do it that way. Give a call man, let's start figuring shit out cuz it ALWAYS takes 2-3 times as long as ya think.

TitaniumTT

11-15-2011, 10:21 AM

Emissions on the FC? Mans you are are on a tight schedule!

Yeah yeah, you will be an asset to the shop, no doubt about it :patriot:

Actually, the emmissions is already a year late, but because the reg is up, they wont renew that until I take and pass an emmissions test.... fucking PITA ct....

Thanks man!

WE3RX7

11-15-2011, 12:07 PM

progress pics are up... Bitch lol..

:rofl:

I ain't noones bitch..... bitch :lol:

That's what a few people have said, Yay, you're closer to me now! I guess the Hudson is some monstrous geographic boundry for some :smilielol5:

Yeah well, sorry bout that..... when you start posting pics of this so called "progress," I'll start reponding to pm's ;)

TitaniumTT

11-15-2011, 01:10 PM

You stacked a keg? That's progress? I bet you voted for Obama :rofl:

JhnRX7

11-15-2011, 03:50 PM

On a different note though, I will be starting full time @ Speed1 on 12/5 :D

NICE!!

Now you will have to join us at all the NJMP track days since you will be closer. I will have to stop in for a corner balance and check out the shop in the early spring.

Also.... I dont know if Dan told you about "BlackCarTrackCar", but once we finally get our asses in gear to start on that the first thing will be a full cage. I think we know where we can get that done now :D

knonfs

11-15-2011, 06:01 PM

Actually, the emmissions is already a year late, but because the reg is up, they wont renew that until I take and pass an emmissions test.... fucking PITA ct....

Thanks man!

I feel your pain, the first thing that I have to do when I get the car, is the damn e-test :icon_tdown:

WE3RX7

11-15-2011, 07:23 PM

You stacked a keg? That's progress? I bet you voted for Obama :rofl:

I'd rather stack 'em then blow 'em :)

What will be your focus at Dave's place? Fabrication, engine building, bodywork, tuning, all the above?

helghast7

11-15-2011, 08:21 PM

does anyone know were to get borg warner airwerk turbos cheap? right now the price to beat is 800 bucks for an s360 lol

TitaniumTT

11-15-2011, 11:36 PM

I feel your pain, the first thing that I have to do when I get the car, is the damn e-test :icon_tdown:

Damnit.... I think this will be my last one before im exempt but I have a feeling that because I'm a year late, they'll go by due date, not test date, meaning I'll need to take one more next year..... bastards...

NICE!!

Now you will have to join us at all the NJMP track days since you will be closer. I will have to stop in for a corner balance and check out the shop in the early spring.

Also.... I dont know if Dan told you about "BlackCarTrackCar", but once we finally get our asses in gear to start on that the first thing will be a full cage. I think we know where we can get that done now :D

Yup yup, I plan on tracking a bunch more next year, and shit yeah bring her up for some cornerbalancing.... gotta do it for myself actually :rofl:

Nope, Dan never told me about that, but shit yeah bring her up... all the equipment is there and there's a few full blown track cars there now :D

TitaniumTT

11-15-2011, 11:44 PM

I'd rather stack 'em then blow 'em :)

What will be your focus at Dave's place? Fabrication, engine building, bodywork, tuning, all the above?

If you're not breaking shit, you're not trying hard enough :rofl:

All of the above, plus electrical. Tuning will be the main focus to start though...... soooooooo when do you wanna get the 8 strapped down again? :D

helghast7

11-16-2011, 12:54 AM

If you're not breaking shit, you're not trying hard enough :rofl:

guess i must be trying too hard lol

Whizbang

11-16-2011, 05:41 AM

interestingly, i was looking at either allentown, pittsburg or erie for when i get out of the military. I want to be near a city, but live far enough out to have some privacy.

TitaniumTT

11-16-2011, 08:35 AM

No shit? I don't know pittsburg or erie well enough, but go 15 minutes outside of Allentown and its prett hardcore farmland... so yeah

Whizbang

11-16-2011, 10:12 AM

i wanna be somewhat close to the allegheny forest

speedjunkie

11-16-2011, 11:26 AM

If you're not breaking shit, you're not trying hard enough :rofl:

You don't have to try so hard with an FD though.

WE3RX7

11-16-2011, 03:54 PM

I will. Bring the 8 up after you get settled. Last event is this Sunday so I will have some down time. May bring the new track car instead though...

are you all doing cages now too?

TitaniumTT

11-16-2011, 04:41 PM

i wanna be somewhat close to the allegheny forest

I honestly don't know where that is...

You don't have to try so hard with an FD though.

:smilielol5:

I will. Bring the 8 up after you get settled. Last event is this Sunday so I will have some down time. May bring the new track car instead though...

are you all doing cages now too?

Speed1 has been doing cages for a long time now ;)

Settled is a relative term..... there is a huge backlog of tuning to be done, yet I feel the need to inquire about an RCC pre-DGRR dyno day :D

2gslse

11-16-2011, 09:12 PM

I know that feeling all to well. You should have us build the harness, you want us to build the harness, we will build the harness :lol: Seriously though, remember my harness? All the raychem, milspec connectors, bulkhead release etc etc etc.... yeah... let's do it that way. Give a call man, let's start figuring shit out cuz it ALWAYS takes 2-3 times as long as ya think.

We do need to talk Pm me your # again my phone crapped out on me a couple months ago.

TitaniumTT

11-17-2011, 01:08 AM

Most definately.... you have a pm

I was gonna txt you, but I couldn't find your number in my phone... then I remembered I went swimming with my phone over the summer :lol:

Whizbang

11-17-2011, 06:39 AM

allegheny forest area is huge. Takes up most of the northwest portion of PA. But im a hiking camping woodsy type so i like to have that somewheres near by.

JhnRX7

11-17-2011, 11:33 AM

Settled is a relative term..... there is a huge backlog of tuning to be done, yet I feel the need to inquire about an RCC pre-DGRR dyno day :D

^ THIS!!!

Would they rent out the dyno for me to do my own tuning? I already have my map where I want it, but I would love to get it on a dyno for some fine tuning. Or I could just do it during the RCC dyno day... make it happen! :icon_tup:

chibikougan

01-02-2012, 05:26 PM

Brian can you post up an arse shot?

Also one of your FC if you have time. Wanna see them inserts.

reese.leblanc

01-19-2012, 11:01 PM

Brian can you post up an arse shot?

Also one of your FC if you have time. Wanna see them inserts.

LMAO. I should be used to this sort of thing around here, yet I still spit half of my drink when I read it. :ack2:

EJayCe996

01-19-2012, 11:15 PM

I believe he's still in the Caribbean... NOT working on his FC for once in his life.

chibikougan

01-20-2012, 03:06 PM

Well then it will be Tan at least

TitaniumTT

01-21-2012, 10:34 PM

^ THIS!!!

Would they rent out the dyno for me to do my own tuning? I already have my map where I want it, but I would love to get it on a dyno for some fine tuning. Or I could just do it during the RCC dyno day... make it happen! :icon_tup:

They would, if you wanted to. Or we can probably work something were we sit down and do it, shoot me a PM when you get closer to it.

Depending on how many people we have for a dyno day will determine how much tuning actually gets done. Generally the dyno days are lots of people. Lots of noise alot of HP pulls and a little tuning... but its determined by how many people there are really.

Brian can you post up an arse shot?

Also one of your FC if you have time. Wanna see them inserts.

:smilielol5: I think I did... I don't have inet where I'm staying, so its kinda hard to do it.... I'll take a peak and see what I've got though

TitaniumTT

01-21-2012, 10:41 PM

I believe he's still in the Caribbean... NOT working on his FC for once in his life.

Been ack a few days, ironically pulled the engine a day before I left and hauled it and the 'vert back to the shop. Broke it down last night and found 1 dented rotor, a few warped apex seals, a broken corner seal and the rotor contact the plate.... I'll get some pics up with the work camera, but it doesn't look like the FC will be making DGRR this yr :banghead::mad: so now its time to focus on the 'vert and get up to speed.... and the 4-port rotary ITB Miata....

So who's car am I washing?

Well then it will be Tan at least

Me? I've got the perma farmers tan thing going on... I'm always tan!

WE3RX7

01-21-2012, 11:13 PM

Wow.. That's a pretty good downshift u got there. Sorry we didn't make it up there. It wasn't wasted though... I got 6 hours in the garage washing rotors and housings etc..

What year is the Miata?

I love pop-up lights

01-22-2012, 02:33 AM

You got a Miata? Whaaaaaaat the hell have I missed lately?

Prodigy

01-23-2012, 12:51 AM

a friend of mine thinks your car looks "cute" (referring to the pics of it on the dragon)

I had a good laugh, then explained its a fricking quick and all homebuilt... she did not seem to understand the significance of such an accomplishment...

i just shook my head and walked away..

J.

TitaniumTT

01-23-2012, 09:15 AM

You got a Miata? Whaaaaaaat the hell have I missed lately?

Not yet, and it's not for me.... I'm just the builder/fabricator/tuner.... it's a car for my old man.

Basically, he went with me to Lime Rock in Sept but pussied out on taking his 1 month old to him 2005 Boxster S out on the track... pussy. So after 6 weeks telling him so, he finally registered for a 3 day long PCA even @ NJMP. 2 Days on Thunderbolt, one day on lightning. He got there late Friday and did some skidpad shit, and braking lessons, and things like that. Thunderbolt he had a blast on. Too tight and technical for me, I prefer Lightning. Didn't stop me from KICKING HIS ASS THOUGH! The next day at Lightning I was driving solo and loving it. I lapped his ass more than a few times. But after the second session he got back to the pits and was white as a ghost. He told me that coming ou of the lightbulb he went to give someone a point-by and as he leaned out of the window (he was on the wrong side of the track anyway) he pulled the wheel and the the left tires hit the dirt. Not a big deal because NJMP does a GREAT job of providing TONS of runoff, BUT the dumbass instructor grabbed the wheel to bring him back on the tarmac. After what he described as 3 or 4 back and forths with the instructor and the car, it finally ended up skidding backwards across the track and he almost got broadsided. And he poo'ed himself.

THe next 2 sessions he took it easy, and on the last session they bumped me to the advanced group where I was hunting down and passing turbo Porsche's GT3's, and there was a Viper out there that I wanted SOOOOOO bad. BUT my wheel bearings had other plans and the car left on a flatbed. So between him almost hitting the wall and my car leaving via tow-truck, he decided he didn't want to do this in his Porsche anymore. So we're taking a '92-95 Miata and building it. I originally wanted to do an REW swap with a GT35r and a .7 hotside, but he pussied out. Something about the 400hp in my car making him poo himself, having that in a Miata would cause the loss of all bowel restrcitions, so instead we're going with a 4-port REW engine and ITB's. Should still get 200+ wheel and be a terror on the track. Paint it flat black and go to war. He just needs to get off his ass and get the fucking car!

a friend of mine thinks your car looks "cute" (referring to the pics of it on the dragon)

I had a good laugh, then explained its a fricking quick and all homebuilt... she did not seem to understand the significance of such an accomplishment...

i just shook my head and walked away..

J.

:rofl: Thanks man... which pics are you reffering to? Did she see the awesome track pics that John and Dan took? I don't think it looks cute there :lol:

Women.... :rolleyes:

WE3RX7

01-23-2012, 02:32 PM

so he doesn't even have the car yet... Sad. An NA REW makes me sad lol...

TitaniumTT

01-23-2012, 03:21 PM

Nope, net yet.

Ya know what makes me sad..... one RE making more power than two Renni's

No wait.... that makes me happy :rofl:

helghast7

01-23-2012, 07:56 PM

glad to see your still doing sick things with these cars

im about 90% positive im gonna make my fd a full time track car come next season...still thinking it over though

Prodigy

01-23-2012, 08:56 PM

a friend of mine thinks your car looks "cute" (referring to the pics of it on the dragon)

the ones before you modded your hood to be all sexy like...

J.

RICE RACING

01-24-2012, 03:11 AM

the ones before you modded your hood to be all sexy like...

J.

Should have told him that a Man said it/he looked "cute" :smilielol5:

Prodigy

01-24-2012, 09:59 AM

Should have told him that a Man said it/he looked "cute" :smilielol5:

Awe Rice, I was trying to keep him from getting all hot and bothered... He has work to do :)

J.

I love pop-up lights

01-26-2012, 10:33 PM

Not yet, and it's not for me.... I'm just the builder/fabricator/tuner.... it's a car for my old man..

THe next 2 sessions he took it easy, and on the last session they bumped me to the advanced group where I was hunting down and passing turbo Porsche's GT3's, and there was a Viper out there that I wanted SOOOOOO bad. BUT my wheel bearings had other plans and the car left on a flatbed. So between him almost hitting the wall and my car leaving via tow-truck, he decided he didn't want to do this in his Porsche anymore. So we're taking a '92-95 Miata and building it. I originally wanted to do an REW swap with a GT35r and a .7 hotside, but he pussied out. Something about the 400hp in my car making him poo himself, having that in a Miata would cause the loss of all bowel restrcitions, so instead we're going with a 4-port REW engine and ITB's. Should still get 200+ wheel and be a terror on the track. Paint it flat black and go to war. He just needs to get off his ass and get the fucking car!

This made my naughty bits tingle, holy shit.

By the way you're ridiculous. I still love it :smilielol5:

TitaniumTT

01-29-2012, 02:39 PM

glad to see your still doing sick things with these cars

im about 90% positive im gonna make my fd a full time track car come next season...still thinking it over though

I always will ;)

Don't do it, street cars that can handle the track are a lot more fun

the ones before you modded your hood to be all sexy like...

J.

Ah, gotcha... yeah... I never liked the FC hood.... too much color.

TitaniumTT

01-29-2012, 02:45 PM

Should have told him that a Man said it/he looked "cute" :smilielol5:

Awe c'mon Peter... stop flirting w/me ;)

Awe Rice, I was trying to keep him from getting all hot and bothered... He has work to do :)

J.

Yeah... less now because the engine over rev'ed... oh well.

This made my naughty bits tingle, holy shit.

By the way you're ridiculous. I still love it :smilielol5:

Haahaahhaaa... you coming to this years DGRR, Daniel?

helghast7

01-30-2012, 12:49 AM

I always will ;)

Don't do it, street cars that can handle the track are a lot more fun

yea maybe, idk ive got lots of thinking to do, the cars sleeping right now and i have another car as a DD so im not sure what my plans are yet for it, i just no if anything i want it to be fast and i wanna track it, and if i really enjoy the tracks a cage is going in it lol

RXtacy

01-30-2012, 11:08 AM

Paint it flat black and go to war. He just needs to get off his ass and get the fucking car!

Something about someone not knowing what wax is. :suspect:

TitaniumTT

01-30-2012, 12:01 PM

Flat black is cool. Silver should sparkle and shine.... just look at my car ;)

RXtacy

01-31-2012, 01:06 PM

Flat black is cool. Silver should sparkle and shine.... just look at my car ;)

Way to be original :uhh:

TitaniumTT

02-01-2012, 08:34 AM

Right, cuz everything on my cars has already been done 10x over ;)

RX SE7EN

02-01-2012, 09:33 AM

Yeah Brian, c'mon, think of something new already haha

TitaniumTT

02-01-2012, 09:42 AM

:smilielol5: You too Colin, try thinking outside the box for once ;)

I love pop-up lights

02-08-2012, 08:45 PM

Haahaahhaaa... you coming to this years DGRR, Daniel?

Damn right I am. Gotta fly though, won't have the time to drive and I'm selling the Miata anyway. Oh wells...important part is I'll be there.

Something about someone not knowing what wax is. :suspect:

:lol:

Flat black is cool. Silver should sparkle and shine.... just look at my car ;)

Way to be original :uhh:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lw4iu6v6G51r3rizv.gif

TitaniumTT

02-08-2012, 09:20 PM

:rofl: Nice... where you flying too?

You know theres a caravan of people driving right past you?

I love pop-up lights

02-08-2012, 09:39 PM

Gonna fly into Asheville, Chris is picking me up.

Caravan would work but there is still the issue of time, I have a trip in march and a trip in may I need time off for :lol:

Force13b

02-09-2012, 12:51 PM

^would you stop post all over the place and get your skinny ass in BAW

I love pop-up lights

02-10-2012, 01:49 PM

:suspect:

I'm either retarded and can't find it or I still don't have access...

TitaniumTT

02-10-2012, 08:28 PM

You should have access now that you've wasted 20 posts :rofl:

I love pop-up lights

02-10-2012, 10:48 PM

Hey now, *some* of those had a little bit of substance to them...ok so like 1 of them did :lol:

TitaniumTT

01-10-2014, 11:16 PM

I can't believe it's been almost 2 years since this thread was bumped.... shameful.... oh well.... lots has changed with the car, no more twins, lots more power, This happened (http://www.superstreetonline.com/features/1312_1988_mazda_rx_7_se/) and then a few months later on a road trip to visit a friend and help him with his car who without mine wouldn't have made DGRR last year, the tranny puked.... so I put her here.......

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14436&stc=1&d=1389413590

Yes.... she's actually running Jeff.... warming up before I pulled her out a few weeks ago to clean out the Annex in prep of storing a different car.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14437&stc=1&d=1389413590

At the Track!!!!!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14438&stc=1&d=1389413590

Who's that handsome Devil about to tear it up in an 8?

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14439&stc=1&d=1389413590

GySgtFrank

01-11-2014, 07:17 AM

Needs an automatic so you quit breaking your toys. :bottom:

TitaniumTT

01-13-2014, 01:09 PM

BAH! NEVA! More gears because MOAR! Whenever I get around to cracking the tranny open we'll hopefully figure out what the cause of failure was and decide if it's worth sticking with the S1 tranny or moving on to the S2 tranny.... either way though something needs to be done and I've got the bombproof S5TII tranny sitting in the 'vert just waiting incase it's needed... I'll dyno the car with the TII trans though as the 6-spd won't be repaired by then...

JL1RX7

01-13-2014, 03:55 PM

Or find a S2000 and swap the ends. Heard they are all the same center sections. How true that is I don't know.

TitaniumTT

01-13-2014, 04:07 PM

When Glenny did the clutch in his S2k he sent me a pic of the tranny, they are not the same at all. Same manufacturer, same family, but VERY different externally. Bellhousings are totally different as well.

RXtacy

01-13-2014, 05:31 PM

Or find a S2000 and swap the ends. Heard they are all the same center sections. How true that is I don't know.

Gotta love the internet :lol:

JL1RX7

01-13-2014, 05:58 PM

I saw it on the internet so it must be trues!

Prodigy

01-13-2014, 11:47 PM

I saw it on the internet so it must be trues!

Quoted For Truth!!!

Seriously Brian, get some more pictures up of this dirty girl..

J.

TitaniumTT

01-28-2014, 12:31 PM

:rofl: Will do... she is a fucking FILTHY whore... I didn't get a chance to give her a bath before she went into the shop for the winter.... oh well.... maybe a wipe down is in order... we'll see....

So I'll get some pics up but here's where we stand with this bitch... she's on jackstands and I dropped the tranny to take it to Speed1 yesterday when I went out to tune a car... It lasted longer than most people though... I figure there's about 25,000 miles on this trans at around 400rwhp with REPEATED 1st gear clutch drops, highway runs, track days etc etc etc.... it held up pretty well I feel. Ever since June 2012 when the thing separated and lost all it's oil @ 143mph on the front straight @ LRP, it's been getting worse and worse. A hub finally over extended and the springs and balls popped out. The result was a chipped 3rd gear, a dented 5th geat, all the syncro's are kinda worn, the input shaft bearing is FUCKED and all the forks are worn pretty good. So with 86 Days remaining..... I start looking for a new tranny.... actually 2... because you're only as good as your backup :) So if anyone knows of an S1 tranny kicking around.... lemme know....

Hopefully I'll get a few hours tonight to work on the bitch a little bit, there's some fabrication to finish up in the engine bay, the exhaust, and the entire interior needs to be stripped out as well.....

TitaniumTT

01-29-2014, 12:56 AM

So with 85 days let I really didn't get a lot done tonight... Managed to get the turbo and manifold off and on the 'vert engine with a Cosmo intake. This way I can mock up the coolant hardlines for the turbo and wastegates on the engine stand and then just transfer them over. I'm also going to rotate the CHRA 17* to create a thermal siphon when the engine shuts down. The way I had the turbo plumbed before when you shut the engine down, the heat from the mani and the turbine housing soaks into the CHRA and I've heard the coolant bubbling before and had one or two coolant lines fail.... oddly... they only fail when the engine is off.... sooooo yeah... need to address that.

Once the CHRA is rotated and locked down, back on the car with all the new lines I'll build an inlet pipe to get the air filter up into the corner behind the headlight and rebuild the AST. The coolant line exit is going to feed straight uphill into the new AST. I'll also build a new overflow tank out of sight just to clean things up a bit and not hinder the location of the air filter.

I think for this round I'll focus one area at a time. Breaking it down into four segments we've got all the mechanical and electrical under the hood. I've got some shit to do to the interior, and some mechanical stuff on the exterior. Then there's always the misc stuff that's nice to do but not required.

So the list for under the hood is as follows.
Coolant hairlines for turbo and wastegates
Swap springs out for 10psi
tweaking the open dump tube
New turbo drain hose
4port dual solenoids and braided Teflon hoses for wastegates.
New AST
New overflow tank.
Turbo inlet tubing with AIT sensor
TiAL BOV with braided lines
New open element AIT sensor
New clutch hardline
New plugs and wires
Quick swap mounts for Quicksilver and D585 coils (yeah, I'm still doing this)
New Overflow tank
3" Vbands before the cans (right now the exhaust is still one piece and it's a MOTHERFUCKER to get in and out with as big as it is....
New alternator - fuck you all ;)
Tranny.

Pretty sure that's everything that needs doing under the hood. I want to up the size of the oilcoolers and remount them farther back and re do the brake ducting. However that will wait. After that list is all done I'll move onto the interior and the wiring that I've got to do.... Anyway... all I really got done tonight was removing the turbo and mani, reclocking it and figuring out all the bits and pieces that I need to order tomorrow so I can keep at it on Thursday. Love Verocious Motorsports... their standard shipping is usually overnight if they have everything in stock

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14523&stc=1&d=1390974680

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14524&stc=1&d=1390974680

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14525&stc=1&d=1390974680

TitaniumTT

01-30-2014, 12:12 AM

84 days and counting.....

Decided to do a little fab work tonight.... I got a new TiAL BOV in as a replacement for the old greedy unit which I have little faith in.... I'm hoping to put it where the old BOV once lived.... if it fits there it'll fit by 1/16 of an inch.... decided not to press my luck with that... instead I moved onto the coolant lines for the WG

Pulling from the rear housing they're run in parallel. On the side Tee fitting into the rear WG. From there it runs to a street union on the front WG. The exiting coolant from the rear WG meets the exiting coolant from the front WG with another on the side tee fitting and from there it runs up to the lower portion of the waterpump. Hopefully this extends the life of the WG. I was hoping to NOT have to do this.... but as you can clearly see, the rear WG is getting much hotter than the front. It's not from EGT's either. Those stay within a few degrees of each other.... it's just being surrounded hy heat and baked.... hopefully this helps.

I would've liked to have gotten more done tonight, but whatever.... hardlines are FUCKING TIME CONSUMING!!!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14532&stc=1&d=1391058657

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14533&stc=1&d=1391058657

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Whizbang

01-30-2014, 10:32 AM

Like a down payment for house in AN fittings

TitaniumTT

01-30-2014, 11:11 AM

:lol: Yeah.... they do add up... wait till you see the fucking WG lines.... all -4Braided Teflon lined and SS fittings :banghead: Hopefully I get a few more parts in today and can make some decent progress...

JhnRX7

01-30-2014, 01:48 PM

Love Verocious Motorsports... their standard shipping is usually overnight if they have everything in stock

Ditto to this statement ^ I love Verocious, fast shipping and the prices on fittings cant be beat. Also I have to option of driving down and picking up my order :hurray:

I'm in the middle of the same project, only on the fuel system side. -6 hardlines from tank to injectors. Setting the car up for Flex fuel and decided to go all out.

Side note, I have noticed the same thing on a few dual wastegate cars now... the rear wastegate gets discolored from the heat yet the EGT's were even between both runners.

RXtacy

01-30-2014, 02:39 PM

I'm in the middle of the same project, only on the fuel system side. -6 hardlines from tank to injectors. Setting the car up for Flex fuel and decided to go all out.

You're doing hardlines from the firewall to the rails also? What are you doing to mitigate vibration/displacement?

Side note, I have noticed the same thing on a few dual wastegate cars now... the rear wastegate gets discolored from the heat yet the EGT's were even between both runners.

On Brian's car especially that rear WG is crammed in there. Very tight fit.

RETed

01-30-2014, 03:22 PM

Side note, I have noticed the same thing on a few dual wastegate cars now... the rear wastegate gets discolored from the heat yet the EGT's were even between both runners.

Nature of the ambient air flowing over the engine...
Cooler air hits the front of the engine first.
By the time the air gets to the rear of the engine, it's already heated up a lot.
Typically, the rear of engine runs hotter than the front - shoot an IR thermal gun and take some temps...

-Ted

JhnRX7

01-30-2014, 03:33 PM

You're doing hardlines from the firewall to the rails also? What are you doing to mitigate vibration/displacement?
.

I guess my last post was not entirely true... I am running a short run, 10"-12" (or so), of soft line between block and firewall for vibration/flex.

Mr. Ambrosio (RENESISFD) is coming over this weekend to lend his expertise and hopefully help minimize the amount of trashed lines... Hardline Party!

speedjunkie

01-30-2014, 06:34 PM

My goodness, I love those hardlines on the wastegates. Definitely stealing that idea at some point.

And I like the setup of your manifold more than mine also.

TitaniumTT

01-31-2014, 01:07 AM

Ditto to this statement ^ I love Verocious, fast shipping and the prices on fittings cant be beat. Also I have to option of driving down and picking up my order :hurray:

I'm so jealous.... have you ever? I really want to meet that Adrienne chick :rofl:

I'm in the middle of the same project, only on the fuel system side. -6 hardlines from tank to injectors. Setting the car up for Flex fuel and decided to go all out.

Nice.... how are you mounting the hardlines? I've got a machining project going on that you may be interested in... shoot me a txt if ya wanna know :)

Also.... If John is gonna be with you this weekend... check out one of the pics I'm about to post.... it's the MAP sensor mount that he was asking me about.... I'm having a dozen of them cut. I know John was down for 2. Mikes down for 2 :squint: I need 4 so there will be 4 left over until I have another run made... price will be in the $40 range last I spoke to him about them... we'll see after he gets them cut what the machine time is. Yeah, I know its not the normal way things are done, but I've been doing business with him for like 8 years so we take care of each other....

Side note, I have noticed the same thing on a few dual wastegate cars now... the rear wastegate gets discolored from the heat yet the EGT's were even between both runners.

On Brian's car especially that rear WG is crammed in there. Very tight fit.

Very tight and completely surrounded by heat with little airflow.... nothing else is really getting killed with heat back there so I'm happy about that. Removing the seal between the firewall and the hood probably helped with that a little as well...

Nature of the ambient air flowing over the engine...
Cooler air hits the front of the engine first.
By the time the air gets to the rear of the engine, it's already heated up a lot.
Typically, the rear of engine runs hotter than the front - shoot an IR thermal gun and take some temps...

-Ted

Rear of the engine as in housings/irons etc or are you referring to rear rotor EGT's?

I guess my last post was not entirely true... I am running a short run, 10"-12" (or so), of soft line between block and firewall for vibration/flex.

Mr. Ambrosio (RENESISFD) is coming over this weekend to lend his expertise and hopefully help minimize the amount of trashed lines... Hardline Party!

NICE.... He bought one of those MasterCool hydraulic flaring tools correct? I fucking love that thing.....

My goodness, I love those hardlines on the wastegates. Definitely stealing that idea at some point.

Thanks man!

And I like the setup of your manifold more than mine also.

Why? Yours is pretty badass

TitaniumTT

01-31-2014, 01:35 AM

Got the new TiAL installed tonight.... what a motherfucker of a PITA it was.

Basically where I had the greedy was too far back for the TiAL as it stands more proud than the old one. So what I had to do was cut the old greedy flange off. Then file down all the welding. Grind into what was left of the greedy flange to cut through the weld that penetrated, and then beat it out with a punch.

Ironically the hole that I needed for the TiAL flange was the exact same OD as the old greedy BOV. The difference is the greedy flange was .25" cast AL and the TiAL a .063ish billet. So yes Mike, the TiAL will flow METRIC ASSTONS more than the greedy ;)

Had the TiAL been .25" shorter it would've worked and I could've just welded it all up. Instead what I had to do was grind the hole in the elbow into an egg shape so that I could position the new flange as far forward as possible. What this did obviously was leave a gaping hole aft of the new flange. So... I had to lay 5 or 6 beads around the back of the hole, and then file them down to close the gap.... what an ordeal... but that's one more thing off the list.

Tolerances are TIGHT and I hope to hell the engine doesn't rock all that much. If it does, which it shouldn't because of how I mounted the trans and the torque brace I have on the UIM, I'll have to rebuild the elbow.... oh well... it started life as one of the Greedy ones for an FD... obviously this one has been just ever so slightly modified :rofl:

Seeing as how I haven't even turned on my welder since June... I can live with these welds

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14540&stc=1&d=1391152119

See what I mean... that's about as far forward as I could get it. Because of the angle of the elbow and the angle of the brace... it take a lot of forward movement to get the BOV just a little bit farther away from the brace.... Oh well.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14541&stc=1&d=1391152119

If you look towards the back you can see where I had to weld up the gap

:svengo:http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14542&stc=1&d=1391152119

TIGHT!!!!!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14543&stc=1&d=1391152119

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14544&stc=1&d=1391152119

Braided line because vac line is for pussies :lol:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14545&stc=1&d=1391152119

TitaniumTT

01-31-2014, 01:41 AM

Hey John.... as I promised.... a pic of my "LimeRock Pipe" :rofl:
It is possible to reroute dual WG's with a 4" exhaust... but it's not fun.. it's even worse to install it. Because of the motor mounts in an FC. The manifold with WG's and turbo and Downpipe need to be installed all as one... not a pleasant experience at all. I don't even want to think about how it's going to be accomplished with the water cooled wastegates. Getting to a few of those fittings is going to be a nightmare....

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14546&stc=1&d=1391150325]

And here is a pic for John regarding the MAP sensor mount.....
GM whateverBar MAP sensor fits ontop. The nipple is sealed by an o-ring and the cavity continues to an 1/8" NPT port where you can put your choice of fitting on. The MAP sensor bolts to the top of the mount, and the mount bolts to wherever you want it to. I love this little thing. It's a great idea.... much better than hc's idea to smear some fucking RTV inside the reference line and toss a ziptie on it... then wonder why his car won't start or stay running...
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14547&stc=1&d=1391150325]

RETed

01-31-2014, 04:13 AM

Rear of the engine as in housings/irons etc or are you referring to rear rotor EGT's?

I think the guy was talking about the radiant temps of the engine - rear versus front.

-Ted

JhnRX7

01-31-2014, 07:52 AM

I'm so jealous.... have you ever? I really want to meet that Adrienne chick :rofl:

I have gone to pick up parts, its just over the state line... and I have met her :biggthumpup:

Nice.... how are you mounting the hardlines? I've got a machining project going on that you may be interested in... shoot me a txt if ya wanna know :)

To be determined.

Also.... If John is gonna be with you this weekend... check out one of the pics I'm about to post.... it's the MAP sensor mount that he was asking me about.... I'm having a dozen of them cut. I know John was down for 2. Mikes down for 2 :squint: I need 4 so there will be 4 left over until I have another run made... price will be in the $40 range last I spoke to him about them... we'll see after he gets them cut what the machine time is. Yeah, I know its not the normal way things are done, but I've been doing business with him for like 8 years so we take care of each other....

Saw the pictures... this is a great idea, and perfect timing. I was just looking into one of those SS pressure transducers that I can use as a map sensor because they are 1/8" NPT. Unfortunately I could only find one in 3.5 BAR and I don't plan on running anywhere near that boost so I don't want to use it due to the loss in resolution. This however is the perfect solution to be able to use a GM 3 Bar. Only downside is I wanted to mount the transducer directly to the manifold. However I could probably still mount this adapter block to the UIM somewhere then run a hardline (seeing as I wont have to worry about flex).

NICE.... He bought one of those MasterCool hydraulic flaring tools correct? I fucking love that thing.....

Yup! he is bringing all his fancy hardline tools. What flaring tool have you been using? I was looking into this Ridgid tool (the MasterCool is too rich for my blood) for finishing up everything after John leaves

http://www.amazon.com/Ridgid-41162-Model-Flaring-Tool/dp/B001B1RIBQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_1

RXtacy

01-31-2014, 09:12 AM

I guess my last post was not entirely true... I am running a short run, 10"-12" (or so), of soft line between block and firewall for vibration/flex.

Mr. Ambrosio (RENESISFD) is coming over this weekend to lend his expertise and hopefully help minimize the amount of trashed lines... Hardline Party!

Ah gotcha now I'm on board :lol:

Have fun at your tube party :naughty:

I'm so jealous.... have you ever? I really want to meet that Adrienne chick :rofl:

You'd prob be disappointed. Everytime I talk to a chick on the phone who sounds cute they are always the antithesis :rofl:

Nice.... how are you mounting the hardlines? I've got a machining project going on that you may be interested in... shoot me a txt if ya wanna know :)

If it's what I think it is we need to talk. I think you might be wasting your time.

Ironically the hole that I needed for the TiAL flange was the exact same OD as the old greedy BOV. The difference is the greedy flange was .25" cast AL and the TiAL a .063ish billet. So yes Mike, the TiAL will flow METRIC ASSTONS more than the greedy ;)

My point was do you need the extra flow ;) Have you had compressor surge?

Also who taught you how to use the camera on your phone? :fawk:

TitaniumTT

01-31-2014, 10:45 AM

I think the guy was talking about the radiant temps of the engine - rear versus front.

-Ted

Ah..... yes I can see the radiant heat back there effecting temps in the engine itself...

I have gone to pick up parts, its just over the state line... and I have met her :biggthumpup:

Oh Really? And is she :biggthumpup: or the antithesis as Mike says? (And.... I too have experienced :rofl: )

To be determined.

Ah..... Ok... well... if you're interested in what I've got going on, shoot me a txt or the pics will be up in here in a few weeks..

Saw the pictures... this is a great idea, and perfect timing. I was just looking into one of those SS pressure transducers that I can use as a map sensor because they are 1/8" NPT. Unfortunately I could only find one in 3.5 BAR and I don't plan on running anywhere near that boost so I don't want to use it due to the loss in resolution. This however is the perfect solution to be able to use a GM 3 Bar. Only downside is I wanted to mount the transducer directly to the manifold. However I could probably still mount this adapter block to the UIM somewhere then run a hardline (seeing as I wont have to worry about flex).

Kewl. I do love that adapter. The only thing that I would suggest is that I try to keep transducers off the engine. Keep them away from the vibrations and they tend to last longer. Of course, GM themselves have mounted their MAP sensors directly on the engine in the past soooooo yeah.

Alright, when I get them, I'll give you a shout :biggthumpup:

Yup! he is bringing all his fancy hardline tools. What flaring tool have you been using? I was looking into this Ridgid tool (the MasterCool is too rich for my blood) for finishing up everything after John leaves
http://www.amazon.com/Ridgid-41162-Model-Flaring-Tool/dp/B001B1RIBQ/ref=pd_sim_sbs_hi_1

I borrowed Colins MasterCool with the 37* flare kit as well. Oddly enough the week after I borrowed it, Kyle bought a rebranded one from Snap-On for literally a 40% increase.... needless to say he was more than annoyed. He owns it though and will be using it a lot.

Honestly, I've tried a lot of the manual flaring tools in the past, and none have worked as well and consistently and EASILT as the MasterCool. Most of the hand crank ones would either break on me, or not give a full flare. This was of course while flaring Stainless steel. Regular steel and AL you can get away with it, but if I'm going through the trouble of building a hardline, it's going to be out of stainless. My suggestion would be to borrow one until you're done with it. Next time I need a flaring tool, I do plan on just buying one. It really is worth it considering the amount of times I've wanted to do hardlines and just ended up either using a soft line or the adapters like this
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ear-165056erl/overview/
which a RETURN line ended up leaking on me... go figure.... If I have the time I'm seriously thinking about redoing my fuel lines with a 37* flare and a male adapter on the softline like this guy
http://www.anplumbing.com/images/products/8055/1869_thumb.jpg

Ah gotcha now I'm on board :lol:

Have fun at your tube party :naughty:

:rofl; That....

You'd prob be disappointed. Everytime I talk to a chick on the phone who sounds cute they are always the antithesis :rofl:

There's always hope.....

If it's what I think it is we need to talk. I think you might be wasting your time.

Oh really.... I'll shoot you a txt in a few minutes....

My point was do you need the extra flow ;) Have you had compressor surge?

I have not... yet.... but I've hear the BOV crack when it shouldn't have which was one reason for swapping it out.

Also who taught you how to use the camera on your phone? :fawk:

:fawk: I actually almost ended up using my phone. Last time I was at horror freight they had a sale on batteries... so I picked up a bundle of AAA and AA batteries. My camera died, so I threw in 4 BRAND NEW HORROR FREIGHT batteries and the camera would take a picture, and then turn off without taking a picture. WTF? Try it again... motherfucker.... So I put it down and carried on. NOT taking pictures of the steps to make the TiAL fit. On a hunch... I pulled two of the batteries out of the garbage and replaced two of the horror freight batteries with the dead Duracell and OMFG the camera worked. So in short.... dead Duracels are better than brand new horror freight batteries. And I always thought my penlights died so quick because I was leaving them on in my pocket :rofl:

budfc3s

01-31-2014, 11:35 AM

I just cant take the gayness of this build thread.......lol

TitaniumTT

01-31-2014, 11:59 AM

:squint: Why do I think this is Dave on Kyles account? :smilielol5:

budfc3s

01-31-2014, 02:24 PM

lol nope all kyle baby!!!!!! looking good tho

TitaniumTT

01-31-2014, 02:30 PM

:smilielol5: Thanks man.... Game on to see who's car is done first?

In tranny news I just scored a bundle of S1 RX8 trannies.... Buy 4 get one free... I'm not even kidding. So plan will be to build one and cryo it for the FC. Build one and cryo it for the RX8. Build one and cryo it for the vert. Rebuild and cryo the one in the RX8 as a backup. And find the parts to rebuild the one I blew up as a backup backup. Although, the one in the 8,now has lasted 200k miles, and the vert will never see the abuse that my could has.... Aaaaannndddd I still have the S5 Til trans in case all fails.... So yeah.... Surrounded by trannies AND I LOVE IT!!!!

Fendamonky

01-31-2014, 03:06 PM

:suspect:

JL1RX7

01-31-2014, 03:49 PM

Always knew you were into all kind of tranny love!

budfc3s

01-31-2014, 06:29 PM

Of course yours will be done first. Im poor. Altough i did just spend anoth 400 on parts yesterday

RX SE7EN

02-02-2014, 11:55 AM

You should see if Liberty Transmissions has an upgrade for the RX8 tranny. They have started doing the FD's and making them great for the guys with 3 rotor turbos.

hades

02-02-2014, 12:24 PM

You should see if Liberty Transmissions has an upgrade for the RX8 tranny. They have started doing the FD's and making them great for the guys with 3 rotor turbos.

He is too stubborn

speedjunkie

02-02-2014, 07:08 PM

Why? Yours is pretty badass

I like how/where your wastegates are attached, mainly. I do love my manifold but I like things about yours better.

Turblown

02-03-2014, 04:26 AM

Is there a Dyno sheet, or video etc In this thread?

TitaniumTT

02-04-2014, 03:28 AM

Always knew you were into all kind of tranny love!

Damn right!

Of course yours will be done first. Im poor. Altough i did just spend anoth 400 on parts yesterday

Psssshhhhhh... an excuse that is not!!!!

You should see if Liberty Transmissions has an upgrade for the RX8 tranny. They have started doing the FD's and making them great for the guys with 3 rotor turbos.

No shit! Thanks Colin! I'll fire off an email to them tomorrow actually.... I wonder... it would be nice.... the input shaft bearings seem to be the weak point now.... well... the hubs are still an issue but I'm blaming my fragged forks for that.

He is too stubborn

It's not stubborn... it's determination damnit!

TitaniumTT

02-04-2014, 03:32 AM

I like how/where your wastegates are attached, mainly. I do love my manifold but I like things about yours better.

Ah.... I see.., thanks Eric. Drive to CT, I'll build you one ;)

Is there a Dyno sheet, or video etc In this thread?

There might be, if there is I have no idea where it would be. Seeing as I haven't updated for 2 years, any dyno sheets or video are going to be pretty useless though. I'll have her back on the dyno sometime on March most likely, depending on what goes on with the tranny... if it gets towards late March I'll just slap the TII on and head for the dyno. With some sloppy hurried tuning she did 405 @ 14psi. I'm confident if the turbo and engine are still in the same health as they were a year ago, I'll be able to eek out more power. Then we're going to turn it up to wherever we need to in order to break 500. I'm guessing it's going to be around 21-23 psi with 2000cc's of WM50 available. We'll see what happens.

JhnRX7

02-04-2014, 07:57 AM

Kewl. I do love that adapter. The only thing that I would suggest is that I try to keep transducers off the engine. Keep them away from the vibrations and they tend to last longer. Of course, GM themselves have mounted their MAP sensors directly on the engine in the past soooooo yeah.

I had this concern as well. However like you mentioned, there are a bunch of OEM's that mount the map sensor directly to the intake manifold. Additionally I have had my fuel pressure sensor mounted on the motor (indirectly) without issue as well as oil pressure sensor.

That said, a failed fuel/oil pressure sensor is a lot less catastrophic than a failed MAP sensor :o15:

For this reason I will mount the MAP sensor to the fire wall... I have just been bitten by the hard line bug and have been looking for ways to eliminate rubber/silicone hose wherever possible :p

RX SE7EN

02-04-2014, 10:06 AM

When I was wiring up a 2JZ for a friend I was shocked when I saw the map sensor. It wasn't anything like the GM version, it's a simple NPT threaded sensor like the rest of the sensors on the engine. It was part of the old AEM V1 ecu kit for the supra, so not sure what car it originally came on (I think supra's had MAF sensors originally so it was not from the car itself).

Either way, it completely eliminated the need for a vacuum line, and look much cleaner because it could hide under the plenum with the air intake temp sensor.

JhnRX7

02-04-2014, 10:25 AM

RX SE7EN

02-04-2014, 12:10 PM

JhnRX7

02-04-2014, 12:18 PM

Oh snap, you want more than 3.5 bar? Did you try looking them up at digikey.com? Thy have all kinds of things like that. And on his, he made over 900whp, again this is on a stroked 3.4 liter 2JZ, so I'm sure boost levels were not as high as you'll need.

haha no, less than 3.5 bar. A 3 bar is even more than I need but it would still give adequate resolution. I don't need/want a lot of power for what I do.

speedjunkie

02-04-2014, 07:27 PM

Ah.... I see.., thanks Eric. Drive to CT, I'll build you one ;)

Thanks! I might do that lol. I'd like to build a new one and move the wastegates like yours if I can, and also move my EGT sensors back a tad. I think they're contacting flame because they act funny sometimes, especially when doing a road trip down the highway.

I like your progress. I wish I had time to work on mine these days lol.

TitaniumTT

02-05-2014, 05:04 AM

I had this concern as well. However like you mentioned, there are a bunch of OEM's that mount the map sensor directly to the intake manifold. Additionally I have had my fuel pressure sensor mounted on the motor (indirectly) without issue as well as oil pressure sensor.

OEM's also have to make a lot of compromises that we don't if we don't feel the need to. Soooooooooo, yeah... I'll mount my sensors where I damn well please :lol:

That said, a failed fuel/oil pressure sensor is a lot less catastrophic than a failed MAP sensor :o15:

Yeah.... That.... the other thing that's nice about mounting a MAP sensor to the manifold, especially on top of the mani is that you don't have to worry about any sink traps in the lines collecting moisture....

For this reason I will mount the MAP sensor to the fire wall... I have just been bitten by the hard line bug and have been looking for ways to eliminate rubber/silicone hose wherever possible :p

Did you happen to see the pic of the MAP sensor mount? I'm having a dozen of them cut, and I have 1 or two left over if you're interested ;)

When I was wiring up a 2JZ for a friend I was shocked when I saw the map sensor. It wasn't anything like the GM version, it's a simple NPT threaded sensor like the rest of the sensors on the engine. It was part of the old AEM V1 ecu kit for the supra, so not sure what car it originally came on (I think supra's had MAF sensors originally so it was not from the car itself).

Either way, it completely eliminated the need for a vacuum line, and look much cleaner because it could hide under the plenum with the air intake temp sensor.

The problem with that AEM sensor is that the sensor output is not a straight line, it's more of an exponential curve. I tried to use one on a PS1000 that I tuned in an FB. The problem was the halltech didn't have enough data points to properly mimic the curve of the sensor so it was too fidgety to tune consistently. It wasn't worth it, so I stole a sensor mount from my car, popped a GM 3B MAP sensor on it and all was more than good from there.

This is exactly what I wanted to use, however for my boost level goals they do not make a sensor with acceptable resolution. Best I can find is a 3.5 bar. I'm sure there is one out there somewhere though.

GM 3B with a billet mount!!!

haha no, less than 3.5 bar. A 3 bar is even more than I need but it would still give adequate resolution. I don't need/want a lot of power for what I do.

But it is nice to be able to twist a knob and dial up the ponies from say 350 to over 500.....

Thanks! I might do that lol. I'd like to build a new one and move the wastegates like yours if I can, and also move my EGT sensors back a tad. I think they're contacting flame because they act funny sometimes, especially when doing a road trip down the highway.

I like your progress. I wish I had time to work on mine these days lol.

Hell man, I'm game! But it'll be a while... unless you want to send me your turbo, then I could mock it up in my FD :D Check out RXtacy's build thread... the two of us managed to get his TD61 in a good spot with twin TiAL MVS's.... although... just like my LimeRock pipe, I wouldn't want to do a recirc.... fuck that... besides... I like open gates tickling the bowels of my ear drums.

What kind of sensors are you using? Mine are moujnted very close to the ports I'm pretty sure they're contacting the flame and they are pretty rock solid.... you could always take the hc approach and mount them in the dp :smilielol5::rofl::lol::rofl::smilielol5:

I would like more time as well... I won't be working on the FC for another 2 weeks....

speedjunkie

02-06-2014, 02:29 AM

Hell man, I'm game! But it'll be a while... unless you want to send me your turbo, then I could mock it up in my FD :D Check out RXtacy's build thread... the two of us managed to get his TD61 in a good spot with twin TiAL MVS's.... although... just like my LimeRock pipe, I wouldn't want to do a recirc.... fuck that... besides... I like open gates tickling the bowels of my ear drums.

What kind of sensors are you using? Mine are moujnted very close to the ports I'm pretty sure they're contacting the flame and they are pretty rock solid.... you could always take the hc approach and mount them in the dp :smilielol5::rofl::lol::rofl::smilielol5:

I would like more time as well... I won't be working on the FC for another 2 weeks....

Oh I'm in no hurry to make a new manifold. Just thought it would be pretty cool. I'd like to finally put my Millermatic 140 Autoset to good use and start practicing welding, but I have career things that are taking front seat at the moment. Yeah I like RXtacy's build. I have those wastegates too, but I was looking at recirculating them. Although, they are very useful when someone pisses me off and their windows are down so I can blow out their eardrums going WOT past them lol. Also, installing all the recirc stuff would be such a huge PITA. But I'm thinking about going with 4" exhaust all the way back but trying to make it quieter also lol.

I'm using some open tip fast reacting sensors from The Sensor Connection, but I don't remember which ones off the top of my head. They're a few inches back from the flange, but when I'm cruising on the highway, after a while they'll max out at 1900 or 2000 (I don't remember which is max), and just stay there. So I was thinking they might be too close. And occasionally they'll read pretty far off from each other. Other than that they're usually good. I'll try to resist mounting them in the DP lol.

Aren't you getting the FC ready for Deal's Gap?

TitaniumTT

02-06-2014, 05:15 AM

Oh I'm in no hurry to make a new manifold. Just thought it would be pretty cool. I'd like to finally put my Millermatic 140 Autoset to good use and start practicing welding, but I have career things that are taking front seat at the moment. Yeah I like RXtacy's build. I have those wastegates too, but I was looking at recirculating them.

I was trying to find a small enough cut out valve to use with the WG;s..... best of both worlds. But they're huge, both in length and in diameter. I never found one that would work.

Although, they are very useful when someone pisses me off and their windows are down so I can blow out their eardrums going WOT past them lol.

Or pedestrians in Manhattan.... Full throttle through 1st pop off the rev limiter and watch people jump for cover... I'm such a dick sometimes :lol:

Also, installing all the recirc stuff would be such a huge PITA. But I'm thinking about going with 4" exhaust all the way back but trying to make it quieter also lol.

It is... it's horrible especially where we have our mani's placed. If we mounted them further forward and higher, it would exponentially easier

I'm using some open tip fast reacting sensors from The Sensor Connection, but I don't remember which ones off the top of my head. They're a few inches back from the flange, but when I'm cruising on the highway, after a while they'll max out at 1900 or 2000 (I don't remember which is max), and just stay there. So I was thinking they might be too close. And occasionally they'll read pretty far off from each other. Other than that they're usually good. I'll try to resist mounting them in the DP lol.

I've seen cars, my own included just get hotter and hotter and hotter the longer they cruise. For this reason I said fuck it and just ran mine @ 12.5:1 and slightly leaner in cruise. I still get close to 20 mpg too but the EGT's are much much lower after extended times cruising. If they're close to each other in temp, I'm inclined to say they they're working ok, even if you are seein EGT's that high... it's when they've always been a few degrees off and then they suddenly spike to a few hundred degrees difference that it makes me think that they are acting up.

Give the guys over at Exhaust Gas Technologies a shout, they have some really thick open tipped sensors that can withstand rotary heat.

Aren't you getting the FC ready for Deal's Gap?

I start getting ready for Deals Gap 11 months before its on again..... I love that show. Are you planning on making a trip out this year Eric?

JhnRX7

02-06-2014, 08:42 AM

Have you ever had any open tip sensors fail? how many miles have you put on them?

GySgtFrank

02-06-2014, 09:40 AM

Or pedestrians in Manhattan.... Full throttle through 1st pop off the rev limiter and watch people jump for cover... I'm such a dick sometimes :lol:

Sometimes? :squint:

RENESISFD

02-06-2014, 09:43 AM

Or pedestrians in Manhattan.... Full throttle through 1st pop off the rev limiter and watch people jump for cover... I'm such a dick sometimes :lol:

I absolutely love doing that. The effect is magnified by the echoing off of the buildings.

RXtacy

02-06-2014, 01:32 PM

Thanks! I might do that lol. I'd like to build a new one and move the wastegates like yours if I can, and also move my EGT sensors back a tad. I think they're contacting flame because they act funny sometimes, especially when doing a road trip down the highway.

I like your progress. I wish I had time to work on mine these days lol.

I happen to know a guy who has a jig for said manifold for the FD... :suspect:

TitaniumTT

02-06-2014, 02:18 PM

Have you ever had any open tip sensors fail? how many miles have you put on them?

I can't remember if I replaced those sensors when I rebuilt the engine or the mani.... so somewhere between 5 and 14k miles. And I've never had one fail either and I was seeing EGT's hit 1900 with the BNR's before I really tuned them and turned the boost down.

Sometimes? :squint:

:squint:

I absolutely love doing that. The effect is magnified by the echoing off of the buildings.

:smilielol5: It is sooooo much fun

I happen to know a guy who has a jig for said manifold for the FD... :suspect:

Bigger turbo... may not fit.... BIG EFR turbo...

RXtacy

02-06-2014, 02:43 PM

Bigger turbo... may not fit.... BIG EFR turbo...

IIRC he has the smaller EFR.

TitaniumTT

02-06-2014, 02:57 PM

He does, but the ERF's are still physically bigger than most Garretts.

RENESISFD

02-07-2014, 06:49 AM

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14534&stc=1&d=1391058657

We have a problem..... be a man and get rid of that turbo drain HOSE and make it a hardline. Come on, if you are gonna do it, you might as well do it right. I should not have to tell you these things :D

I like the tubing clamp. What is your source for them?

Also, regarding your discolored wastegate... were they always water cooled or did you add that at a later date? Mine have like 6k mi. and a track day and are not discolored like that at all.

For Diff and trans temp sensor I used the simple AEM temp sensor http://www.lms-efi.com/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=146

JhnRX7

02-07-2014, 07:05 AM

For Diff and trans temp sensor I used the simple AEM temp sensor http://www.lms-efi.com/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=146

So how did you setup the sensor with the Haltech seeing as the sensor is not linear and the Haltech apparently does not have enough resolution to accommodate it?

RENESISFD

02-07-2014, 07:53 AM

There is IIRC 5 refrence points. so I did the calibration using a spread of temps I think the temp sensor would see. (EX. 30 degrees to 250 degrees F) to get the best resolution at the temps I would normally see. It may not be perfect but IMO it is close enough.

TitaniumTT

02-07-2014, 11:26 AM

We have a problem..... be a man and get rid of that turbo drain HOSE and make it a hardline. Come on, if you are gonna do it, you might as well do it right. I should not have to tell you these things :D

Oh shit! REALLY?!?! :rofl: I thought about it... but in the end decided against it for a number of reasons. 1 being I can't get the turbo separated from the mani while in the car. So I need to pull them as a unit and it BARELY fits. Plus it's easier to work with. I did order the correct color fitting and some heat sleeving though :D

I like the tubing clamp. What is your source for them?

Cheers. I get them through Verocious and Summit and Goodridge. Mainly through Verocious though.... I ordered a bunch for my boost lines to the WG. Swappinga few fittings on the WG's then first order of business when I get back is the WG lines themselves.... soooo I Should probably order my valves from MSC today....

Also, regarding your discolored wastegate... were they always water cooled or did you add that at a later date? Mine have like 6k mi. and a track day and are not discolored like that at all.

They've never been watercooled before. I'm doing it BECAUSE of that discoloration.

For Diff and trans temp sensor I used the simple AEM temp sensor http://www.lms-efi.com/sunshop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=146

Kewl, thanks... I'll check into the MoTeC software when I get back.

There is IIRC 5 refrence points. so I did the calibration using a spread of temps I think the temp sensor would see. (EX. 30 degrees to 250 degrees F) to get the best resolution at the temps I would normally see. It may not be perfect but IMO it is close enough.

Yeah.... it is 5 points. I was trying to use the AEM sensors for MAP. It wasn't good....

speedjunkie

02-07-2014, 03:33 PM

I was trying to find a small enough cut out valve to use with the WG;s..... best of both worlds. But they're huge, both in length and in diameter. I never found one that would work.

What is a cut out valve?

Or pedestrians in Manhattan.... Full throttle through 1st pop off the rev limiter and watch people jump for cover... I'm such a dick sometimes :lol:

I might have to agree with Gunny lol. I do think it would be hilarious to see people jump for cover though.

It is... it's horrible especially where we have our mani's placed. If we mounted them further forward and higher, it would exponentially easier

Agreed. But I do love the short runners.

I've seen cars, my own included just get hotter and hotter and hotter the longer they cruise. For this reason I said fuck it and just ran mine @ 12.5:1 and slightly leaner in cruise. I still get close to 20 mpg too but the EGT's are much much lower after extended times cruising. If they're close to each other in temp, I'm inclined to say they they're working ok, even if you are seein EGT's that high... it's when they've always been a few degrees off and then they suddenly spike to a few hundred degrees difference that it makes me think that they are acting up.

Give the guys over at Exhaust Gas Technologies a shout, they have some really thick open tipped sensors that can withstand rotary heat.

I still need to get the Adaptronic sorted out before I do any changes to where the EGT sensors are mounted. I think the cruising AFRs I usually see on the PFC are around 14s though, IIRC. I'm trying to remember if they both read super high while on the highway or just one of them. It's been since April so I really don't remember.

Ok I'll check them out. Thanks!

I start getting ready for Deals Gap 11 months before its on again..... I love that show. Are you planning on making a trip out this year Eric?

Nah I don't think I'll make it this year. But some other guys here in CO have talked about driving out.

I happen to know a guy who has a jig for said manifold for the FD... :suspect:

Hmmmmmm, that sounds tempting haha.

Bigger turbo... may not fit.... BIG EFR turbo...

I have the 7670. I'm not sure how it compares in size to a Garrett. I just know that with how short my runners are, and since I have my LIM spaced out about 1/8" due to the fuel rails pressing against each other, it really cramps the space. At least I don't have the wastegate actuator on mine so that saves some room. It should be somewhat comparable to a Garrett I believe. Depending on how much it would cost, I'd think about just paying you guys to build one and see how it fits when I get it lol. I also thought about trying to pick up a cheap, used HKS cast manifold to see how it would fit.

We have a problem..... be a man and get rid of that turbo drain HOSE and make it a hardline. Come on, if you are gonna do it, you might as well do it right. I should not have to tell you these things :D

I actually thought about that myself. I'd like to do all that, and thought about trying a hardline for the oil drain also.

Also, regarding your discolored wastegate... were they always water cooled or did you add that at a later date? Mine have like 6k mi. and a track day and are not discolored like that at all.

Yeah I have the MV-S wastegates in black and mine have never discolored like that. Mine has been all street driving though. Either way, I still want to run coolant to them with hard lines lol.

TitaniumTT

02-08-2014, 04:38 AM

What is a cut out valve?

Those electronic bypass valves, the y-type that you plumb in with the exaust to go from full loud to full muffled.... I would like to run one on the 'vert but the sizes are just all wrong... so that will be the quiet car.... well..... as quiet as it can be with a 4" downpipe :lol:

I might have to agree with Gunny lol. I do think it would be hilarious to see people jump for cover though.

Agreed. But I do love the short runners.

Yeah... that's why I went through all the trouble and new it was going to be a PITA but... made it work, barely... everything is so damn crammed in there.

I still need to get the Adaptronic sorted out before I do any changes to where the EGT sensors are mounted. I think the cruising AFRs I usually see on the PFC are around 14s though, IIRC. I'm trying to remember if they both read super high while on the highway or just one of them. It's been since April so I really don't remember.

Ok I'll check them out. Thanks!

Yeah... unless you jack the hell out of the timing, just richen it up a bit. Low 13's in cruise. I run 12.5:1 and up in cruise. I still get close to 20 mpg if I behave and its a lot happier. The EGT's are LOW in cruise which I like because I do so much highway driving.... 250 miles, turn it off for 10 minutes, 250 more miles etc etc....

Nah I don't think I'll make it this year. But some other guys here in CO have talked about driving out.

DO IT! Someone needs a co-pilot! Or fly into NYC and I'll pick you up... one of my drivers may be fagging out :squint:

Hmmmmmm, that sounds tempting haha.

I have the 7670. I'm not sure how it compares in size to a Garrett. I just know that with how short my runners are, and since I have my LIM spaced out about 1/8" due to the fuel rails pressing against each other, it really cramps the space. At least I don't have the wastegate actuator on mine so that saves some room. It should be somewhat comparable to a Garrett I believe. Depending on how much it would cost, I'd think about just paying you guys to build one and see how it fits when I get it lol. I also thought about trying to pick up a cheap, used HKS cast manifold to see how it would fit.

We have the Jig, I just don't know about fitment with your turbo... that's what worries me.

I actually thought about that myself. I'd like to do all that, and thought about trying a hardline for the oil drain also.

Yeah I have the MV-S wastegates in black and mine have never discolored like that. Mine has been all street driving though. Either way, I still want to run coolant to them with hard lines lol.

At the minimum I would need a new bender and a length of tubing. It could be done, but I would rather focus time and energies else where. Plus getting the turbo in and out or the line on or off would be a rage inducing exercise. As it is with the softline it's still a monster PITA, I don't want to know what a hardline would be like.... eff that noise....

JL1RX7

02-08-2014, 04:15 PM

Or the DC area, someone will be able to give you a ride.

speedjunkie

02-09-2014, 01:52 AM

Those electronic bypass valves, the y-type that you plumb in with the exaust to go from full loud to full muffled.... I would like to run one on the 'vert but the sizes are just all wrong... so that will be the quiet car.... well..... as quiet as it can be with a 4" downpipe :lol:

I don't think I've ever seen those. That's interesting.

Or the DC area, someone will be able to give you a ride.

DO IT! Someone needs a co-pilot! Or fly into NYC and I'll pick you up... one of my drivers may be fagging out :squint:

Well I'm not sure I'll have time anyway. I'm supposed to be deploying this summer or fall, or maybe even spring. I'm not sure when or if it will even happen. I'd hopefully have the car finished again and ready to drive. If I would go to DGRR I'd be bringing the car for sure lol. Thanks for the offer though guys!

We have the Jig, I just don't know about fitment with your turbo... that's what worries me.

Oh I know what you mean, I'm just curious if it's really that much bigger, if at all, and depending on price it might be worth it. One thing that's always bothered me about my manifold is that the turbo cants forward 5 degrees. So basically the front of the turbo sits lower than the rear of the turbo, by 5 degrees. I've always wondered if it was a problem because at a certain speed it will get a harmonic resonance, or so it sounds to me. But as friends have said, at least when I'm stomping on it it will be sitting more level lol.

At the minimum I would need a new bender and a length of tubing. It could be done, but I would rather focus time and energies else where. Plus getting the turbo in and out or the line on or off would be a rage inducing exercise. As it is with the softline it's still a monster PITA, I don't want to know what a hardline would be like.... eff that noise....

Yeah I hear ya. I'm just getting crazy with the idea of all the places this line could be run lol.

TitaniumTT

02-10-2014, 12:03 PM

Or the DC area, someone will be able to give you a ride.

That... but I may need someone up in the CT area :suspect:

I don't think I've ever seen those. That's interesting.

These guys.... http://quicktimeperformance.com/QTEC/

THe muscle car guys usually use them but it could be used for a recirc as well.... they're just not made small enough... oh well... the 'vert will be quiet.

Well I'm not sure I'll have time anyway. I'm supposed to be deploying this summer or fall, or maybe even spring. I'm not sure when or if it will even happen. I'd hopefully have the car finished again and ready to drive. If I would go to DGRR I'd be bringing the car for sure lol. Thanks for the offer though guys!

Gotcha! It was cool seeing ya last year though... even if just for a gas stop :lol:

Oh I know what you mean, I'm just curious if it's really that much bigger, if at all, and depending on price it might be worth it. One thing that's always bothered me about my manifold is that the turbo cants forward 5 degrees. So basically the front of the turbo sits lower than the rear of the turbo, by 5 degrees. I've always wondered if it was a problem because at a certain speed it will get a harmonic resonance, or so it sounds to me. But as friends have said, at least when I'm stomping on it it will be sitting more level lol.

Yeah.... 5* isn't going to make a difference at all.... I wouldn't worry about that. It's tough in the FD's though... they want to be longer and farther forward which makes for routing DP's much easier. The more centered they are, generally the higher they need to be, which makes it a PITA to recirc WG's.... compromises I guess.... wait... fuck compromises....

Yeah I hear ya. I'm just getting crazy with the idea of all the places this line could be run lol.

Dude... Colin used them for his vac lines!

JL1RX7

02-10-2014, 11:04 PM

Hey you know I head down a few days earlier. It doesn't matter what I drive. I has spares in every state I live in!

TitaniumTT

02-10-2014, 11:53 PM

:rofl: I may hit you up with that...... How do you feel about driving a Jeep that just says GTFOOMY!

That of course being Get The Fuck Out Of My Way

speedjunkie

02-11-2014, 12:37 AM

These guys.... http://quicktimeperformance.com/QTEC/

THe muscle car guys usually use them but it could be used for a recirc as well.... they're just not made small enough... oh well... the 'vert will be quiet.

Oh OK. I've never seen those before.

Gotcha! It was cool seeing ya last year though... even if just for a gas stop :lol:

LOL same here. I'd like to make it. We'll see. If I go though, I want to bring my car.

Yeah.... 5* isn't going to make a difference at all.... I wouldn't worry about that. It's tough in the FD's though... they want to be longer and farther forward which makes for routing DP's much easier. The more centered they are, generally the higher they need to be, which makes it a PITA to recirc WG's.... compromises I guess.... wait... fuck compromises....

OK cool. Screw it. I like short runners regardless.

Dude... Colin used them for his vac lines!

I've wondered about that lol.

JL1RX7

02-11-2014, 10:41 PM

:rofl: I may hit you up with that...... How do you feel about driving a Jeep that just says GTFOOMY!

That of course being Get The Fuck Out Of My Way

Mom might look at funny not pulling up in rotary. But as long as you have the lights on top I will cope.

TitaniumTT

02-27-2014, 12:32 AM

Oh OK. I've never seen those before.

Yeah..... I want to use it for the WG but I don't see it happening... Oh... recirc with a swappable dump tube I suppose....

LOL same here. I'd like to make it. We'll see. If I go though, I want to bring my car.

DO IT! JUST DO IT!!!!! And grab Cheebs too :lol:

OK cool. Screw it. I like short runners regardless. I like them too... but when looking to make things as efficient as possible compromises and such.... when I do the mani on the 'vert I had originally wanted to make the turbo sit a little higher and farter away from the framerail to make things easier.... which was fine when it was a smaller turbo.... now that I've upped the size again it's not going to happen because 4" DP..... le sigh...

Mom might look at funny not pulling up in rotary. But as long as you have the lights on top I will cope.

Those seem to be the only ones that don't burn out!!!! Last month I replaced one headlight bulb, this month I've got another bulb out in the front and now a fucking headlight cracked... oh well... waiting to take a few measurements on my 8 to see about replacing the factory fogs with some nice Hella driving lights.... mmmmmmmmmmmmm.....

TitaniumTT

02-27-2014, 12:57 AM

Soooooooooooooo It's been about a month since an update... and sadly I really haven't done much of anything at all.... I was in cali for a few weeks, then vday, then weather, then a 2.3l Mazda decided to puke a cam chain tensioner... soooo yeah.... haven't done much... still piddling around with the little stuff on the turbo side of things..... because love taking the most simple of tasks and making them as complicated as possible.

HOWEVER.... if anyone is running a T4 flange and they can't seem to get to the forward most facing nut underneath on the flange... you know which one I'm talking about... this motherfucker......

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14661&stc=1&d=1393482793

Then I have got a little hint for you. Take that fucking asshole stud out and drill out the threads.... then call the guys over @ Full Race and order their Inconel nut and washer kit and an extra long m10 stud, with an extra Inconel washer and 2 nuts....as seen right hearh...

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14662&stc=1&d=1393482793

The stud has one side with a 5mm recessed allen on it. So before dropping the turbo in, slide the stud through with the allen facing down. Thread a nut on till it's plumb with the top of the nut. Drop the turbo over your new gasket and three proper studs. Slip the washer over the back of the stud, thread the other nut on, insert the allen key and tighten away.... viola. The way my mani sits its next to impossble to get that one fucking nut loose. In the past I have always just taken the entire turbo, mani, dumptubes out as ONE PIECE. Just easier that way... however, now with the watercooled WG lines, there's just not enough room. The lines sit too close to the framerail and the mani will not slide over the studs... soooooo something new had to be figured out. Honestly, it was that ONE nut that forced me to take the entire thing out... so it had to go.

Also started working on the new oil return line. A little better of a drain given the WG placement thanks to a 17* clock on the CHRA to hopefully allow for a thermal siphon

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14663&stc=1&d=1393482793

Also wrapped my DP as well.... went with 1" and decided to buy 50' of it. Glad I thought about it and did some rough math... pretty sure I used just about 30' of it to wrap the entire DP. The worst part of it is the transition from 3-4" I found that it was easiest to start from the 4" side of and cross into the 3" side, then wrap a little of the 4" and cross back into the 3". I probably used a little more than I needed to, but it gave the tightest fit.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14664&stc=1&d=1393482793

Now all that is left to do is address this little area

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14665&stc=1&d=1393482793

with some self adhearing Lava Rock and then it's off to play the waiting game on some copper exhaust nuts and then the turbo can be installed all permanently like.

That area took a BEATING though.... a few of the nuts that were used to mount shit got frozen in place, most of them came out with the exception of 2 M8's, which is why I don't use the button heads anymore, I only use the socket heads. I'll get them out though, I need them to mount a few adel clamps.
The heater core return line also took a pounding and will need to be replaces and covered with some heat rejectant material I got from Verocious... then it's onto boost control lines and I can hopefully move away from the mechanical stuff, rewire a few things under the hood and them move into the interior.

Oh.... all 5 of the trannies showed up @ S1 earlier this week so hopefully this weekend I'll get a chance to drop the tranny out of the 8 and get that off to S1 for some cryo goodness as well :D

TitaniumTT

02-27-2014, 01:10 AM

I mentioned earlier that I was planning on dropping the WG spring down to 10psi and using a 4 port solenoid to control boost. While this will theoretically give 4x WG spring pressure, I think it will be more like 2.5-3.... but I could be wrong, I think it happened once :smilielol5: Anywho... I got a delivery from Verocious of a box of goodies... sadly I still need to order some more -4 line. Next time I'm going to do this all with hardline and just plan in some extra for movement. It's SOOOOOOOO much cheaper to do it this way.. but I suspect I'll be spending a few hundred on a REALLY nice bender because I actually broke my last one... over use I suppose.....

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14666&stc=1&d=1393483124

I mounted the solenoids in the most logical place. and they are fed right from the charge pipe. Nice short runs there. From there when the solenoid is at rest, the pass through the solenoid runs to the bottom port of the WG. When the WG is energized pressure is diverted away from the bottom port and applied to the top port keeping the WG closed. So the lines are run VERY cleanly. they both run parallel from the solenoid to the WG... very clean, I likey... Verocious also had some pretty trick AN line separators as well to make things even cleaner :D

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14667&stc=1&d=1393483124

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=14668&stc=1&d=1393483124

So I'm waiting for a bit more line and some more fittings and nuts and I can button up everything on the turbo side of things. Hopefully the line comes quick and I can start building a new AST to help the thermal siphon a little more as well. A few other odds and ends and I can start on the electrical both in the engine bay and the interior. 2-3 more weeks... hopefully and I can be on the dyno... the weather isn't helping any nor is life itself... Oh well... theres still 7 weeks.........

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 7 WEEEEEKS?!?!?!?!