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hades
04-23-2011, 12:17 PM
Scott, what are your travel times and routes and whatnot?

who is scott?

TitaniumTT
04-23-2011, 12:19 PM
If you need something to blame; blame prowire. I still haven't received my heat shrink I ordered. In fact I have received stuff that I ordered after it. They're taking their sweet time.:o10:

Pssssshhhhh, how many years you been working on this girl? We have no one to blame but ourselves :lol:

who is scott?

Congrats... 1000th post!!!! DAYUM

Scott = Turbo II Rotor

vex
04-23-2011, 01:15 PM
Pssssshhhhh, how many years you been working on this girl? We have no one to blame but ourselves :lol:


Let me think... I wrecked my first 7 in December of '06, swapped to a roller during spring break of '07 to the summer, rebuild and turbo swap in winter '08, Drove it around in '09-'10, and now upgrading the ECU in '11. I seriously only need the heat shrink to get this car ready to tune... well not really, but basically.

TitaniumTT
04-23-2011, 01:51 PM
Huh, so I guess you were running it around for the last year or so turbo'ed on the stocker TII ecu???


BTW - rear brakes are kinda sorta done... got some fab work to do to make the Lokar e-brake cable work, and of course I'm waiting on some crush washers that are supposed to be here Tuesday to make connections...... HOLLY CRAP are they fucking HUGE!!! I couldn't fit a **** hair between the caliper and the wheel if I wanted too :D

vex
04-23-2011, 02:18 PM
Huh, so I guess you were running it around for the last year or so turbo'ed on the stocker TII ecu???No... I was using an NA S4 RTek 2.1... which just wasn't cutting it at all. So I upgraded to a full stand alone.


BTW - rear brakes are kinda sorta done... got some fab work to do to make the Lokar e-brake cable work, and of course I'm waiting on some crush washers that are supposed to be here Tuesday to make connections...... HOLLY CRAP are they fucking HUGE!!! I couldn't fit a **** hair between the caliper and the wheel if I wanted too :D

Pics or it didn't happen.

TitaniumTT
04-23-2011, 02:47 PM
Sooooo you were driving a turbo'ed car with an n/a ecu?

Oh, there will be pics.... gotta show them off somehow.... hey, check out my brakes!!! The car doesn't move under it's own power, they aren't bleed or even hooked up... but damn they look gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo d!!!! :rofl:

vex
04-23-2011, 03:13 PM
Yeah... pretty much.

Turbo II Rotor
04-23-2011, 04:25 PM
Scott, what are your travel times and routes and whatnot?

Wake up at 6am on Friday and start riding this down while praying it doesn't rain.

http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j148/74chevynova/73a44dd4.jpg

I'm taking Thursday off as well but I have court in Hoboken so I wouldn't be able to get on the road till at least 10 which is a little later than I'd like so I'll just go Friday. I'm not sure on the route, I'll be following the GPS that'll be suction cupped to my gas tank.

helghast7
04-23-2011, 10:58 PM
^purdy

vex
04-23-2011, 11:45 PM
^purdy

Slow

TitaniumTT
04-24-2011, 09:23 PM
psssshhhhh, my ass!

Soooooooooooo I didn't get as much done as I wanted to this weekend and it seems that I have a problem with my TCMux..... it's getting 8V, but not sending the req'ed 5V to the hall effect sensors. This concerns me..... sooooo gotta get on the phone with MoTeC tomorrow and try to figure that out, then I'm still waiting on some other parts to show up, I did prep the bumper so I can paint that tomorrow night. Worse comes to worst, I can try overnighting parts from J-pan.......

I've also got a rotor sticker on the 5gal Jerry can on the back of The Mighty XJ, so I'll at least be swiming in Rotary spirit :rolf:

hades
04-24-2011, 09:39 PM
psssshhhhh, my ass!

Soooooooooooo I didn't get as much done as I wanted to this weekend and it seems that I have a problem with my TCMux..... it's getting 8V, but not sending the req'ed 5V to the hall effect sensors. This concerns me..... sooooo gotta get on the phone with MoTeC tomorrow and try to figure that out, then I'm still waiting on some other parts to show up, I did prep the bumper so I can paint that tomorrow night. Worse comes to worst, I can try overnighting parts from J-pan.......

I've also got a rotor sticker on the 5gal Jerry can on the back of The Mighty XJ, so I'll at least be swiming in Rotary spirit :rolf:

good luck! Its nice to know exhaust sleeves won't you away this time! :rofl:

I should be drunk by the time you roll in. :seeya:

TitaniumTT
04-24-2011, 11:07 PM
:banghead:

Not this time, this time it's brakes...... and it's not the brake kit. THat's here, and on, both of them, I dug up a brand new stock master in case I can't use the other one I've got because the lines that I ordered haven't gotten here yet..... If it's not one thing it's another. it's pissing me off so much that I almost... ALMOST spent $600 on a hydaulic flaring tool so I can make my own SS hardlines for -3 as opposed to ordering all this crap and waiting, and waiting, and waiting and WAITING!!!!

I'll be in ~ 20:00 - 21:00 on Thursday.... damn man, when are you getting in?

TitaniumTT
04-24-2011, 11:14 PM
Meh, I might as well show them off a little bit, seeing as how it's really the only way for people to see them......

Rears.....


Stock rear rotor on top of new rotor.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10270&stc=1&d=1303704535

You can see where the stock caliper sits in relation to the wheel

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10271&stc=1&d=1303704535

And here's the kit installed.... I'll get more pics up later... sleepy time... worky tomorrow..... ugh..

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10272&stc=1&d=1303704535


I couldn't fit a **** hair between the caliper and the wheel.... it just don't get any bigger than this!
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10273&stc=1&d=1303704535

TitaniumTT
04-24-2011, 11:20 PM
Fronts....

Again, stock front rotor on top of new rotor.... I said DAYUM

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10274&stc=1&d=1303704949

Nope wait.... GAWD DAYAUM!!!!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10275&stc=1&d=1303704949

Yes, that's right, 6-piston cali's..... what.... you;ve never heard of go big or go home? Or that my nickname is Dr. Overkill.... :willy_nilly:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10276&stc=1&d=1303704949

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10277&stc=1&d=1303704949

Stock cali mounted.....

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10278&stc=1&d=1303704949

And the new setup..... yet again... you just can't get any bigger than that...... I've actually got to run a small spacer with my Work Wheels to clear the caliper. I should've gone with the Narrow Superlights.... but we thought we had the room. Oh well, the front coul've used a little spacing, just a touch, now I have a reason... or I could just go back to the rears.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10279&stc=1&d=1303704949

Now... lets hope all my parts show up tomorrow like they;re supposed too...

Mazdabater
04-25-2011, 01:32 AM
I love the brakes. But I can't believe you were running drilled rotors? Were you planning on them cracking so u could justify the new brakes lol?

hades
04-25-2011, 06:01 AM
:banghead:

Not this time, this time it's brakes...... and it's not the brake kit. THat's here, and on, both of them, I dug up a brand new stock master in case I can't use the other one I've got because the lines that I ordered haven't gotten here yet..... If it's not one thing it's another. it's pissing me off so much that I almost... ALMOST spent $600 on a hydaulic flaring tool so I can make my own SS hardlines for -3 as opposed to ordering all this crap and waiting, and waiting, and waiting and WAITING!!!!

I'll be in ~ 20:00 - 21:00 on Thursday.... damn man, when are you getting in?

Flight lands at 1:30. I should be out there by 4-5 at the very latest.

Force13b
04-25-2011, 11:17 AM
Question is will the FC make it to DGRR?

TitaniumTT
04-25-2011, 12:37 PM
Answer is, probably not

EJayCe996
04-25-2011, 12:42 PM
Answer is, probably not

Fanboi response is: NO FUCKING EXCUSES :suspect:

Force13b
04-25-2011, 01:07 PM
Answer is, probably not

Can we give negative rep power for this?

vex
04-25-2011, 01:30 PM
Answer is, probably not without furious masturbation

Fixed?

TitaniumTT
04-25-2011, 06:27 PM
Fanboi response is: NO FUCKING EXCUSES :suspect:

Oh, I'm sorry, aren't you being DRIVEN this year? What's your excuse? :rofl:

Can we give negative rep power for this?

Maybe if you had driven to the desert to see me one of the 2 times for a month that I was in Cali ;)

Fixed?

Hell no! That just makes me more tired. I need a midget stripper masochist to crack the whip :smilielol5:

2gslse
04-25-2011, 06:52 PM
I still have my trusty 12A to put in the prissy little bitch then you won't need brakes just power through full throttle.:smilielol5:

WE3RX7
04-25-2011, 07:19 PM
Brakes look good.... but where are mine, lol! Will we be able to make minor adjustments for clearance on different wheels, lol... I'm pretty sure my offset is better suited than your Works...

TitaniumTT
04-25-2011, 07:31 PM
:rofl: I might have to take you up on that.... no efi to worry about.... when can I pick it up?

TitaniumTT
04-25-2011, 07:36 PM
Brakes look good.... but where are mine, lol! Will we be able to make minor adjustments for clearance on different wheels, lol... I'm pretty sure my offset is better suited than your Works...

According to the measurements I took a while ago, my BBS's will clear with .125" There are also other cali's out there that would fit even better than mine.... plus you're talking about doing a 4 piston in the front and a slightly smaller rotor weren't you? I'm running a 13.25 x 1.25" rotor in the front.... soooo yeah.... The rear on the otherhand, judging by the braket.... you can't get any smaller than what's already there.

On a side note Bill, the included E-brake setup is a dream. Basically bolts in, the only thing you need to do is weld one piece to the factory E-brake cable and you're golden. We'll setup some dyno day in the future, or I'll come down for a race and show you. I was VERY worried about the e-brake setup and it turned out to be one of the easiest things that I've done thus far. I dind't even have to build a bracket :leaving:

2gslse
04-25-2011, 08:07 PM
:rofl: I might have to take you up on that.... no efi to worry about.... when can I pick it up?


Thursday morning its still in my car running and driving though waiting for me to build the single turbo cosmo beast to take its throne going for 400+ hp in a 2500lb FB.



Ps... no more slowtec ecu for you to keep screwing with may be a good thing. when you get done this time I'm gonna make a special trip to Ct. and WELD THE DAMN HOOD SHUT so you will leave it alone.

WE3RX7
04-25-2011, 08:48 PM
Nah - 6 pistons up front, same as you... "member... you member?" (if you get the reference, I'll be amazed). I will need my kit sometime in june/july, lol... hopefully I'll have the other two wheels by then!

Duffman692002
04-25-2011, 10:25 PM
Answer is, probably not

http://blog.tmcnet.com/blog/tom-keating/images/full-metal-jacket-sergeant.jpg
BULLSHIT!

Duffman692002
04-25-2011, 10:26 PM
Oh, I'm sorry, aren't you being DRIVEN this year? What's your excuse? :rofl:

Couldn't hang with the FB.

TitaniumTT
04-26-2011, 12:10 AM
Ps... no more slowtec ecu for you to keep screwing with may be a good thing. when you get done this time I'm gonna make a special trip to Ct. and WELD THE DAMN HOOD SHUT so you will leave it alone.

:lol::rofl::smilielol5::rofl::lol:

That might be a good thing...... I've been thinking about building a different hood anyway ;)

Nah - 6 pistons up front, same as you... "member... you member?" (if you get the reference, I'll be amazed). I will need my kit sometime in june/july, lol... hopefully I'll have the other two wheels by then!

He actually remembered that you needed a kit for the rear, so you should be good to go. He also told me that he sold one to a guy in canada:07:

Don't get the reference... please enlighten....



Couldn't hang with the FB.

Bullshit... I wish.... another night has gone by and I only got done 1/2 of what I wanted to, And to make matters worse, parts that were supposed to be here today didn't show up :banghead: Soooo fucking pissed off. Oh, and to make things from worse to worst... I've basically got from the time I get home tomorrow till 9:30 when I have to leave to pick up my buddy at the airport, then a few hrs on Wednesday night before I've got to leave to get to PA..... basically NOT happening. I won't make the same mistake I did last year though... sleeping the night before and getting plenty of rest so I can at least drive the XJ down......

Maybe he just didn't want to put the strain on his clutch towing the FB up some of those hills!

Force13b
04-26-2011, 02:40 PM
Maybe if you had driven to the desert to see me one of the 2 times for a month that I was in Cali ;)


:blush5:

MaczPayne
04-26-2011, 03:01 PM
Brakes look awesome! Are those wilwood rotors?

TitaniumTT
04-26-2011, 08:38 PM
Thanks Johnson. Wilwood rotors in the rear, coleman rotors in the front. Still don't have th em hooked up or bled and I'm supposed to be leaving... welll..... now

TitaniumTT
04-26-2011, 08:39 PM
Its official ladies.... leaving for the airport in the mighty XJ just loaded with rotary spirit :(

WE3RX7
04-26-2011, 09:18 PM
Lucky man... better off anyway, this year you might actually make it!!

We're leaving 6am Thurs morning, so you'll just have to hit us up when you get down there... we'll already be sitting back enjoying the mountain air and a cold beer, lol... we'll keep one on ice for ya...

EJayCe996
04-26-2011, 11:16 PM
Oh, I'm sorry, aren't you being DRIVEN this year? What's your excuse? :rofl:


Secondaries aren't here yet. Probably get here tomorrow when I leave :rofl:

2gslse
04-27-2011, 03:33 AM
Its official ladies.... leaving for the airport in the mighty XJ just loaded with rotary spirit :(


have a good night sleep. you will be visited by three spirits tonight the ghosts of rotary past(best FC) present (rolling in a JEEP???) and the future if you continue on this path....

MaczPayne
04-27-2011, 12:40 PM
Damn :(

hades
04-29-2011, 08:11 AM
Where are you?

TitaniumTT
04-29-2011, 12:50 PM
In your nightmares ;)

hades
05-01-2011, 02:53 PM
Pos!

EJayCe996
05-02-2011, 11:48 AM
You double lying, asshole! :rofl:

RXtacy
05-02-2011, 12:36 PM
You double lying, asshole! :rofl:

:lol:

hades
05-02-2011, 04:52 PM
TTT let me drive it out to fix the FD--he couldn't see straight any more from lack of sleep. What POS with crappy laggy turbos :smilielol5:.

JhnRX7
05-02-2011, 09:28 PM
Hey Brian,

Good meeting you this weekend... hopefully you and Colin made it back ok. Your FC is amazing and you should try to make it out to some track events with us sometime this summer.

-John

Mazdabater
05-03-2011, 04:36 AM
LOL so I assume you actually did get the FC there?

need RX7
05-04-2011, 06:25 PM
Explanation pl0x. And more pics. Pics are always good.

TitaniumTT
05-04-2011, 09:05 PM
You double lying, asshole! :rofl:

:lol:

:rofl: Haahahaaahahaa.... got you all!!!!!!!!! :cheers2: Funniest was picking on AJ's FB while he slept, only to wake him up and the first words out of his mouth were, "At least I brought a Rotary you asshole!" Then I threw a set of keys at him, he gave me the finger, and I went to go repack wheel bearings :smilielol5:

The next morning 2gslse walked up to me from behind and all I heard was, "You lying, sandbagging motherfucker!" :rofl:

TitaniumTT
05-04-2011, 09:08 PM
TTT let me drive it out to fix the FD--he couldn't see straight any more from lack of sleep. What POS with crappy laggy turbos :smilielol5:.

Probably should've let you drive it back to NVNC.... "GRASS!!!!!!!" :rofl: Sorry 'bout that, thought I was ok.... you know you're tired when you start falling asleep and can't see straight while driving any of those rds. I did make Tray drive me back to the cabin though.... homie was hauling balls! He turned left, I hit my head on the glass, woke up, and saw 75mph on the speedo. Slouched down in the seat and went back to sleep.... got to the cabin and promptly passed out on the pool table becuase some bastard took my bed.

TitaniumTT
05-04-2011, 09:10 PM
Oh yeah Hades... definately take you for a real ride real soon.... we picked up 80ft/lbs of torque on the dyno just by playing with the boost control down low.... she's now @ 250+ft/lbs by 3k! We bumped the redline to 8k becuase the torque carried for another 1000 rpms, literally. Peak torque is now something like 7.6/7.7k..... she's a fucking rocket. Must get back to dyno and finish playing.

TitaniumTT
05-04-2011, 09:13 PM
Hey Brian,

Good meeting you this weekend... hopefully you and Colin made it back ok. Your FC is amazing and you should try to make it out to some track events with us sometime this summer.

-John

Hey John, it was great meeting you as well! That's for letting us roll with y'all on the way back. Colin and I did make it back just fine, we crashed in PA so I could play on the dyno in the morning, then he left a little early as he wanted to beat the traffic and he had to get Ally somewhere as well.

I would LOVE to hit up some tracks with you guys this summer. THe auto-x's are nice, but I really want to stretch her legs a little. Lemme know, please, I'd really like to go with you guys.

Don't short your FD man, she's a beaut! You should definately take pride in the fact that you did everything yourself, she's awesome for sure.

Did you find that M84 thread I was telling you about?

hades
05-04-2011, 09:14 PM
he is a 1/2 lying **** who was missing some parts, but was not as bad as he made it out to be. :suspect:

He showed up very late on Saturday morning-3ish I think. Then he entered his car in the show I saw him around 9ish in the morning. His car was awesome (for an FC anyway :p). I lost track of him until later on at the banquet.

http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/slowknots/dgrr%202011/017.jpg


He was asked to help fix an FD back out on the dragon. On the way TTT became a little sleepy and decided that I should drive instead.

So I grudgingly said ok. I really didn't want to drive a piece of shit FC with no torque and laggy turbos. On the way TTT got a little shut eye.

We got to the FD about 1:00 in the morning. Goodfellas and some others beat us there and found out that one of the 2ndary injectors got stuck wide open. It managed to have fuel pouring out of every possible location. So the engine was deflooded. Both secondaries disconnected and we left around 1:50am.

http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/slowknots/dgrr%202011/008.jpg

Then we drove back to the lodge where I took this pic.

http://i887.photobucket.com/albums/ac74/slowknots/dgrr%202011/009.jpg

TTT was on the was to KDR to get his POS dyno'd on Monday. I texted me that it made a bit more torque ;)

TitaniumTT
05-04-2011, 09:20 PM
LOL so I assume you actually did get the FC there?

Yup, that was the plan all along, I had a little ace in the hole JIC though and I actually did need him :rofl:

Explanation pl0x. And more pics. Pics are always good.

For the last few weeks I've been pissing and moaning about not getting parts in time and have been leading people to believe that I wasn't taking the FC, when in fact, I knew I was going to.... 2gslse even said something to the effect of, you lied to us, you said you were going to the airport in the Jeep to pick your buddy up. That was actually the truth, I just said it in a way that would lead everyone to believe that we were leaving right after that.... so yeah, got you all!!!!! Then, Thursday morning she was outside idling away ready to go whe we realized that my e-fan had puked. I was like, screw this, we're going anyway, lets go get Colin and leave. But his ride wasn't done and he needed me to weld some stuff so we hung around and got his car rolling, I replaced the E-fan, rebled and adjusted the brakes, and we left on our 21hr journey :banghead:

Ironic thing is, if we HAD left, we would've been stuck in all that tornado traffic and I would've been screwed with no e-fan so I guess it was a good thing we left late? :dunno: All I kow is I can't wait to go back.
And yeah, now that the surprise is over with, I'll update the thread with all the pics I took of things that I did that I didn't tell anyone about :rofl:

hades
05-04-2011, 09:25 PM
Probably should've let you drive it back to NVNC.... "GRASS!!!!!!!" :rofl: Sorry 'bout that, thought I was ok.... you know you're tired when you start falling asleep and can't see straight while driving any of those rds. I did make Tray drive me back to the cabin though.... homie was hauling balls! He turned left, I hit my head on the glass, woke up, and saw 75mph on the speedo. Slouched down in the seat and went back to sleep.... got to the cabin and promptly passed out on the pool table becuase some bastard took my bed.

You looked like an old lady hunched over the steering wheel trying to focus. :lol:

I won't lie-I puckered and not from the speed :lol:. :lol: I am surprised you actually remember that "GRASS!!"

In truth guys this thing is very built in all aspects. The engine is very torquey and the turbos are very very responsive. I left it in 3rd when I was driving. It had no problem pulling out of any turns (some tight and went up hill)--and we are taking about low rpms. I could have shifted down to 2nd. But it really didn't seem necessary. :)

The only thing I would do it get a full manual rack instead of the depowered rack--but that's just me and its a very very small critique.

JhnRX7
05-05-2011, 06:31 AM
Hey John, it was great meeting you as well! That's for letting us roll with y'all on the way back. Colin and I did make it back just fine, we crashed in PA so I could play on the dyno in the morning, then he left a little early as he wanted to beat the traffic and he had to get Ally somewhere as well.

I would LOVE to hit up some tracks with you guys this summer. THe auto-x's are nice, but I really want to stretch her legs a little. Lemme know, please, I'd really like to go with you guys.

Don't short your FD man, she's a beaut! You should definately take pride in the fact that you did everything yourself, she's awesome for sure.

Did you find that M84 thread I was telling you about?

Thanks.

I will be sure to let you know when I find out the next track event. I am hoping to get on track pretty soon as I have not been yet this year.

I am proud of my car... it is just not quite where I would like it to be yet, but it is close.

I have been doing quite a bit of reading on the topic of Motec ECU's since we spoke and I still have more to learn. I do plan on coming up with my necessary list of inputs/outputs this week, then I can go from there.

I would also be interested in stopping by next time you head over to KDR to pick your brain about tuning a bit. Im not too far from Dave's shop.

RXtacy
05-05-2011, 08:51 AM
Oh yeah Hades... definately take you for a real ride real soon.... we picked up 80ft/lbs of torque on the dyno just by playing with the boost control down low.... she's now @ 250+ft/lbs by 3k! We bumped the redline to 8k becuase the torque carried for another 1000 rpms, literally. Peak torque is now something like 7.6/7.7k..... she's a fucking rocket. Must get back to dyno and finish playing.

I definitely need to get a ride in that at some point.

Yup, that was the plan all along, I had a little ace in the hole JIC though and I actually did need him :rofl:



For the last few weeks I've been pissing and moaning about not getting parts in time and have been leading people to believe that I wasn't taking the FC, when in fact, I knew I was going to.... 2gslse even said something to the effect of, you lied to us, you said you were going to the airport in the Jeep to pick your buddy up. That was actually the truth, I just said it in a way that would lead everyone to believe that we were leaving right after that.... so yeah, got you all!!!!! Then, Thursday morning she was outside idling away ready to go whe we realized that my e-fan had puked. I was like, screw this, we're going anyway, lets go get Colin and leave. But his ride wasn't done and he needed me to weld some stuff so we hung around and got his car rolling, I replaced the E-fan, rebled and adjusted the brakes, and we left on our 21hr journey :banghead:

Ironic thing is, if we HAD left, we would've been stuck in all that tornado traffic and I would've been screwed with no e-fan so I guess it was a good thing we left late? :dunno: All I kow is I can't wait to go back.
And yeah, now that the surprise is over with, I'll update the thread with all the pics I took of things that I did that I didn't tell anyone about :rofl:

Na we took a detour you would have been fine pussy. :fawk:

mazpower
05-05-2011, 11:33 AM
Yup, that was the plan all along, I had a little ace in the hole JIC though and I actually did need him :rofl:

:suspect:

mazpower
05-05-2011, 11:35 AM
Oh yeah Hades... definately take you for a real ride real soon.... we picked up 80ft/lbs of torque on the dyno just by playing with the boost control down low.... she's now @ 250+ft/lbs by 3k! We bumped the redline to 8k becuase the torque carried for another 1000 rpms, literally. Peak torque is now something like 7.6/7.7k..... she's a fucking rocket. Must get back to dyno and finish playing.

I wish we had more time to do a race gas map. Maybe when you come out here for a bit. :) The response and midrange power of your engine is insane. Definately the best setup I've ever played with as far as rotaries are concerned.

Herblenny
05-05-2011, 01:40 PM
Brian,

Did Jeremy/Puremdma/Proxyone (white FD) buy you dinner or anything for you for fixing his car??? If he doesn't offer to, he's ban for next year!!

Phil

MaczPayne
05-05-2011, 03:04 PM
Took us all for a loop there!

2gslse
05-05-2011, 03:43 PM
Brian, good to see you again when I get my FB's engine done we need to talk more.
What is your car putting down now with the BNR's ?

EJayCe996
05-05-2011, 05:20 PM
Slouched down in the seat and went back to sleep.... got to the cabin and promptly passed out on the pool table becuase some bastard took my bed.

Truf

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s78/EJayCe996/2011-05-01_09-55-15_791.jpg

:suspect:
:rofl::rofl:

hades
05-05-2011, 06:54 PM
Surprised no one violated him in his sleep. :biggrinjester:

2gslse
05-05-2011, 07:15 PM
Surprised no one violated him in his sleep. :biggrinjester:

You missed it??? maybe next year. :sifone:

2gslse
05-05-2011, 07:25 PM
Surprised no one violated him in his sleep. :biggrinjester:

You missed it??? maybe next year. :sifone:

WE3RX7
05-05-2011, 09:31 PM
Nice... we have proof - He does actually sleep! Although, his eyes could be opened ;)


yea, post your gay pics of your shitty brakes already! Also, need new numbers with those BNR's, as it stands right now small single > big twins...

TitaniumTT
05-06-2011, 12:56 AM
Thanks.

I will be sure to let you know when I find out the next track event. I am hoping to get on track pretty soon as I have not been yet this year.

I am proud of my car... it is just not quite where I would like it to be yet, but it is close.

I have been doing quite a bit of reading on the topic of Motec ECU's since we spoke and I still have more to learn. I do plan on coming up with my necessary list of inputs/outputs this week, then I can go from there.

I would also be interested in stopping by next time you head over to KDR to pick your brain about tuning a bit. Im not too far from Dave's shop.

Not at all, I'll post up or PM you when I head out there. I'll be out there for 2 reasons, swap out the tranny, and get back on the dyno to figure out where this girl really stands. Don't know how much tuning we'll be doing as she's pretty close to where she wants to be, but we'll be toying around in the high boost area's and in the boost control maps. Either way it'll be fun!

TitaniumTT
05-06-2011, 01:03 AM
You looked like an old lady hunched over the steering wheel trying to focus. :lol:

I won't lie-I puckered and not from the speed :lol:. :lol: I am surprised you actually remember that "GRASS!!"

In truth guys this thing is very built in all aspects. The engine is very torquey and the turbos are very very responsive. I left it in 3rd when I was driving. It had no problem pulling out of any turns (some tight and went up hill)--and we are taking about low rpms. I could have shifted down to 2nd. But it really didn't seem necessary. :)

The only thing I would do it get a full manual rack instead of the depowered rack--but that's just me and its a very very small critique.

:lol::lol: Yeah, sorry about that, I thought I was good after we got the FD running and I was ok for a while..... then all of a sudden things went south. On the way out things were literally upside down and when my eyes no longer focused is when I had to pull over.... it was evil, sorry about that.

Thanks man, you should feel her now that we had some time on the dyno, all those low rpm's that you're talking about.... they have about 80ft/lbs or more with the boost turned up.... totally different car, you have to go for another drive :D

Yeah, I know what you mean about the rack....... I've been saying alot lately that I miss powersteering. I donm't think I'll go with a full manual as the ratio does kinda suck...... I've got a 17:1 in the basement that I might de-power my way and see what that feels like. If it's still not the greatest, I'll look into some sort of electric ps :willy_nilly:

TitaniumTT
05-06-2011, 01:07 AM
I definitely need to get a ride in that at some point.



Na we took a detour you would have been fine pussy. :fawk:

Get yer ass up to CT damnit! And not really..... I have a feeling there would've been other problems as the weekend went on... glad I stayed though, had to help Colin with his car as well, couldn't leave him high and dry without a completed car

:suspect:

:rofl:

I wish we had more time to do a race gas map. Maybe when you come out here for a bit. :) The response and midrange power of your engine is insane. Definately the best setup I've ever played with as far as rotaries are concerned.

Thansk brotha.... she does have some pep! I wouldn't mind doing a race gas map, or water injection either...... or both :suspect: What I do need to do though is start working on a vacuum block though and getting all those lines worked out and neatened up. It can be better for sure.

TitaniumTT
05-06-2011, 01:11 AM
Brian,

Did Jeremy/Puremdma/Proxyone (white FD) buy you dinner or anything for you for fixing his car??? If he doesn't offer to, he's ban for next year!!

Phil

No he didn't... but that's ok.... we only got there for the last 60% of it or so.... and after all the bitching I was doing about how much I don't like white cars at lunch, I don't blame him either :smilielol5:

TitaniumTT
05-06-2011, 01:16 AM
Brian, good to see you again when I get my FB's engine done we need to talk more.
What is your car putting down now with the BNR's ?

Good seeing you as well my friend, quite the beaut of an FD you've got there and you certainly put the time into her as well.

Right now, she's at 371 rwhp but I know that ain't right, she's scary fast, pulling harder than ever before. The really impressive thing about them though is that they widened the powerband considerably. More torque down low and the peak torque went from 6800 to about 7700! We had originally set the reline @ 7500 and when we started tuning the higher rev/load sites we noticed that the torque still hadn't peaked when I let off and stopped recording.... so we upped the rev limit and were like :drool5:

Truf


:suspect:
:rofl::rofl:

Yeah, you all suck!

TitaniumTT
05-06-2011, 01:31 AM
Surprised no one violated him in his sleep. :biggrinjester:

You missed it??? maybe next year. :sifone:

Nice... we have proof - He does actually sleep! Although, his eyes could be opened ;)


yea, post your gay pics of your shitty brakes already! Also, need new numbers with those BNR's, as it stands right now small single > big twins...

You can't see it in the pic, but there's a knife in my pocket and people were warned before hand :rofl:

I'll get pics up eventually, calm yourself kitten.

And while a small single might make more peak HP, we can overlay them and see the area under the curve..... and in that respect Twins>Single

2gslse
05-06-2011, 03:20 AM
And while a small single might make more peak HP, we can overlay them and see the area under the curve..... and in that respect Twins>Single

as fast as either of our cars spool up how much time is under the curve? your car will be sick when the 6 spd goes in with the 4.30 gears you may need to run stickier rubber on the rear full-time just to keep it pointed straight

hades
05-09-2011, 07:37 PM
Good seeing you as well my friend, quite the beaut of an FD you've got there and you certainly put the time into her as well.

Right now, she's at 371 rwhp but I know that ain't right, she's scary fast, pulling harder than ever before. The really impressive thing about them though is that they widened the powerband considerably. More torque down low and the peak torque went from 6800 to about 7700! We had originally set the reline @ 7500 and when we started tuning the higher rev/load sites we noticed that the torque still hadn't peaked when I let off and stopped recording.... so we upped the rev limit and were like :drool5:



Yeah, you all suck!

do you have a picture of the dyno run?

FC3S Murray
05-10-2011, 11:22 AM
Nice work Brian! So what are you final torque numbers? 380ft/lbs to the wheels now? That would be AWESOME given rotaries usually lack in that department. It is soooooo f*cking sweet how these cars scoot when they have that much torque at the wheels. My bastard motor puts 350 ft/lbs down at 2.5K and stays up there and climbs(393) until 5.5k..it is crazy fast. Yours should be even sweeter since your exhaust note is total bliss and NOT blashphamy haha

BNR stage 2?

send me a PM with your address. I want to get you back your DVD's bro, came across them in the garage last night while cleaning up that shit-hole.

To_Slow
05-10-2011, 01:39 PM
It was nice checking out your FC first hand, lots of creativity and labor of love went in it. Was nice talking with ya to.. Will catch up some more next year.:)

TitaniumTT
05-10-2011, 08:32 PM
And while a small single might make more peak HP, we can overlay them and see the area under the curve..... and in that respect Twins>Single

as fast as either of our cars spool up how much time is under the curve? your car will be sick when the 6 spd goes in with the 4.30 gears you may need to run stickier rubber on the rear full-time just to keep it pointed straight

I almost do now! But the Direzza Z1SS's seems to get stickier the more I run them.... or maybe it's just me zero'ing in on the right setup in the rear:p

do you have a picture of the dyno run?

I don't, but I'll be back there real soon to get some pics, some vids, and I think I'll have Dave overlay my last run with 2GSLSE's last run so we can make some real comparisions and see where we're at

Nice work Brian! So what are you final torque numbers? 380ft/lbs to the wheels now? That would be AWESOME given rotaries usually lack in that department. It is soooooo f*cking sweet how these cars scoot when they have that much torque at the wheels. My bastard motor puts 350 ft/lbs down at 2.5K and stays up there and climbs(393) until 5.5k..it is crazy fast. Yours should be even sweeter since your exhaust note is total bliss and NOT blashphamy haha

BNR stage 2?

send me a PM with your address. I want to get you back your DVD's bro, came across them in the garage last night while cleaning up that shit-hole.

Stage 3 ;) The latest and greatest! no worries, i also gotta get those sleeves back from ya as well, going to need them for the 'vert motor in the coming weeks and it seems that all I'm disassembling lately have been n/a motors and I'm out of sleeves :(

That's an asston of torque nicely done! My peak torque was around 300 I think, but that's with the thing putting down 371 which just doesn't feel right. I dunno, I've got a playdat setup with Dave a week from tomorrow so we'll see where we're at... hopefully.

It was nice checking out your FC first hand, lots of creativity and labor of love went in it. Was nice talking with ya to.. Will catch up some more next year.:)

It was awesome chatting with you as well man. Thanks for the kind words, we've definately got to catch up some more next year, we did not have enough time, especially if/when you've got your beast in attendance. I've got to make sure I'm down there 2 days early too. I didn't spend nearly enough time hanging out and bullshitting outside the show, and spent too much time fixing cars, my own included.... silly wheel bearings :rofl:

TitaniumTT
05-10-2011, 08:43 PM
Sooooooooooooooo perhaps I should post up the POST DGRRXI to-do list :D

1) CLEAN!!!!!! Compound front bumper and get rid of the impregnated bugs, cut and buff the hood, clear out the empty RedBull Cans

2) 6-spd!! Yes, it's done and ready to be installed so I can hunt down and kill the vibration

3) Belly Pan

4) New Rad Shroud

5) Brake Ducting

6) Little more fab left on the Bumper support

7) Re-Adjust the hatch latch :banghead: First trip off the highway heading to DGRRXI and the trunk popped open :rofl:

8) New Hatch Cable

9) Fix Fuel Gauge

10) Cupholders - shut up all!

11) Remote Start needs to be programmed

12) Properly Working Windshield wipers

13) Nozzles in the cowl

14) New SS Clutch Hardline

15) Vacuum Block

16) Touch myself

17) Wire up the Highbeams.... oops

18) New Door panels

19) New shift, ebrake, and center console boots

20) New Brake pads in the front

21) Fire Extinguisher

All in all though, I got just about everything accomplished for DGRRXI that I wanted.... but I gauruntee that there will be another laundry list in 7 months.... After all that's done, I'm going to redo the intake piping to match the BNR's inducer better. I think there's a few ponies to be had there :suspect:

2gslse
05-10-2011, 09:21 PM
I don't, but I'll be back there real soon to get some pics, some vids, and I think I'll have Dave overlay my last run with 2GSLSE's last run so we can make some real comparisions and see where we're at




Remember mine was at 14psi so do a fair test before cranking up the boost.
and
maybe add 1 overlay for a certain renesis also :smilielol5:

Nismo
05-10-2011, 09:34 PM
I'll fix your wiper switches assuming you find me a switch that is rebuildable.

EJayCe996
05-10-2011, 11:29 PM
It was awesome chatting with you as well man. Thanks for the kind words, we've definately got to catch up some more next year, we did not have enough time, especially if/when you've got your beast in attendance. I've got to make sure I'm down there 2 days early too. I didn't spend nearly enough time hanging out and bullshitting outside the show, and spent too much time fixing cars, my own included.... silly wheel bearings :rofl:

Hey, at least you did them at the dinner table so you could BS with us AND do your wheel bearings :rofl:

BTW, did you see the spot on the table where the varnish got stripped off Sunday morning? :rofl:

Thanks to you I now can't get those brakes off my mind

knonfs
05-11-2011, 01:57 PM
Sooooooooooooooo perhaps I should post up the POST DGRRXI to-do list :D

1) CLEAN!!!!!! Compound front bumper and get rid of the impregnated bugs, cut and buff the hood, clear out the empty RedBull Cans

2) 6-spd!! Yes, it's done and ready to be installed so I can hunt down and kill the vibration

3) Belly Pan

4) New Rad Shroud

5) Brake Ducting

6) Little more fab left on the Bumper support

7) Re-Adjust the hatch latch :banghead: First trip off the highway heading to DGRRXI and the trunk popped open :rofl:

8) New Hatch Cable

9) Fix Fuel Gauge

10) Cupholders - shut up all!

11) Remote Start needs to be programmed

12) Properly Working Windshield wipers

13) Nozzles in the cowl

14) New SS Clutch Hardline

15) Vacuum Block

16) Touch myself

17) Wire up the Highbeams.... oops

18) New Door panels

19) New shift, ebrake, and center console boots

20) New Brake pads in the front

21) Fire Extinguisher

All in all though, I got just about everything accomplished for DGRRXI that I wanted.... but I gauruntee that there will be another laundry list in 7 months.... After all that's done, I'm going to redo the intake piping to match the BNR's inducer better. I think there's a few ponies to be had there :suspect:

So, you will be done before midnight tonight? LOL!

How are you doing man? I might have to pull a copy cat, and mimic your front bumper support :cheers2::biggthumpup:

project86
05-11-2011, 06:46 PM
What are your plans for door panels?

TitaniumTT
05-11-2011, 09:14 PM
Remember mine was at 14psi so do a fair test before cranking up the boost.

That's fair.....


and
maybe add 1 overlay for a certain renesis also :smilielol5:

WHY???? I we make more torque @ 2500rpm than that thing makes at full song? Seriously.... it wouldn't even be on the chart... and if it was, it would have to be in portrait moder, zoomed WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY the hell out :rofl:

TitaniumTT
05-11-2011, 09:16 PM
I'll fix your wiper switches assuming you find me a switch that is rebuildable.

SAAAAAHHHHHWWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTT!!!! Thanks man... lemme snag a b/u next time I'm @ Daves, send ya 2 JIC, mine was TOTALLY dead last time and I actually de-pinned the harness and ran them to a SPDT switch for h/l operation... I think that one is FUBAR.... maybe I'll send you 3, there's a black 'vert that might need one :suspect:

TitaniumTT
05-11-2011, 09:20 PM
Hey, at least you did them at the dinner table so you could BS with us AND do your wheel bearings :rofl:

This is very true! Dude, I'm surprised I was able to stay up that long... that was 36 hrs straight with 3 hrs of sleep... I was fucking SPENT!

BTW, did you see the spot on the table where the varnish got stripped off Sunday morning? :rofl:

:rofl: No, no I didn't see that... strange though... I've had other lubes strip off finishes before :suspect:

Thanks to you I now can't get those brakes off my mind

Those things are AWESOME! Did you see the size of the rotors! Were you out there when we were taking them apart? i know AJ came out in disbelief just to make sure that I actually brought a rotary :lol:

I've still got some tweaking to do with them though. Ordered some new wheel studs and spacers today, decided that they look better with that extra 5mm of clearance. What I need to do is start messing around with different compounds though, the Wilwood pads that are on there kinda blow and they dust like a MOTHER, need a little less bite and a lot less dust. I've got so much clamping power and so much leverage that I want to go with a less agressive pad and shift more of the bias towards the rear. I'm still cranking down on the Prop valve and I have yet to lock up the rears... kinda discouraging considering they are a 12.2" x.81" rotor out back.... yes, that is larger than most rotaries FRONT brakes and larger still than some rotaries UPGRADED FRONT brakes.... I am brake king, hear me...... squeel?

TitaniumTT
05-11-2011, 09:23 PM
So, you will be done before midnight tonight? LOL!

I would be if I wasn't working 12+ hrs a day... tomorrow is my first day off since I got back, and my last for another week.... and I'll be prepping a boat for the season, then working on the Landi, I GOTTA get that thing done. I did get a few parts orders in today though so that's a plus. I'm slated for Daves on Wednesday, we'll see what happens though....

How are you doing man? I might have to pull a copy cat, and mimic your front bumper support :cheers2::biggthumpup:

I'm doing well, how bout you? Saw your ride in PA, what's the deal with that? Good luck man, it's a PITA to fab and plan to take the bumper on and off a dozen times. Worth it though. Getting the ends bent to fit will be kinda a bitch though..... BTW, I'm ordering plans for a tubing bender :reddevil:

TitaniumTT
05-11-2011, 09:27 PM
What are your plans for door panels?

Nothing big, as they stand right now I've got the stock tops that I died black, my fibergalss bottoms, and in the center is a black material that I've never been thrilled about. A few months ago I had a burn hole repaired in the drivers seat and I had to purchase an entire yard of the grey recaro material to fix it. I've got a LOT left over so i'm going to recover the center section in that. Then my upholsterer is going to get the scraps and build me some new shift boots, ebrake boots, and a heftily padded armrest cover out of the remaining material and some Mercedes black leather. So the black leather and the grey recaro material that is in the seats will ALL match PERFECTLY! Right now they're a little light for my taste. The boots/covers that I have now will live in the 'vert as that car has a grey interior and the same RX8 seats... or it will anyway... and they'll match that interior alot better.

project86
05-11-2011, 09:39 PM
^^ oh ok. sounds like a good idea.. im gonna be reconsidering some interior options for mine as well when i start putting it all back in.

FC3S Murray
05-11-2011, 10:46 PM
^^ oh ok. sounds like a good idea.. im gonna be reconsidering ...

You should reconsider my hand across you face Be-otch:willy_nilly:......sorry, I am sexually frustrated since Aunt Flow has been in the house the last week.

EJayCe996
05-11-2011, 11:35 PM
Those things are AWESOME! Did you see the size of the rotors! Were you out there when we were taking them apart? i know AJ came out in disbelief just to make sure that I actually brought a rotary :lol:

I went out there briefly... I do blend in with the darkness a little easier than AJ :lol:
I said something but everyone was zoned out tired around your car and paid me no attention so I went back on inside :suspect:

Monkman33
05-12-2011, 12:00 AM
You should reconsider my hand across you face Be-otch:willy_nilly:......sorry, I am sexually frustrated since Aunt Flow has been in the house the last week.

If you ride the red tide, you wash up on shore.


in other words, do it in the shower.

need RX7
05-12-2011, 12:10 AM
POST DGRRXI to-do list

get rid of the impregnated bugs

What happens at DGRR stays at DGRR? :o11:

:smilielol5:

MaczPayne
05-12-2011, 01:10 AM
There's a list every year!

Touching yourself should be no. 1 on that list. :)

project86
05-12-2011, 07:49 AM
You should reconsider my hand across you face Be-otch:willy_nilly:......sorry, I am sexually frustrated since Aunt Flow has been in the house the last week.

haha why on earth would you slap me on the face?? :squint:

TitaniumTT
05-12-2011, 12:20 PM
I went out there briefly... I do blend in with the darkness a little easier than AJ :lol:
I said something but everyone was zoned out tired around your car and paid me no attention so I went back on inside :suspect:

:smilielol5: THat's right!@!! I remember now.... Yeah, those things are monsters... Brian does like very much.

If you ride the red tide, you wash up on shore.


in other words, do it in the shower.

This is good advice....:biggrinjester:

TitaniumTT
05-12-2011, 12:22 PM
What happens at DGRR stays at DGRR? :o11:

:smilielol5:

Yeah.... pretty much.... there was lube, a dining room table, a bunch of drunk guys.... and in the morning the varnish was stripped off..... and people took pics of me asleep on the pool table :rofl:

Embedded was the word I was looking for.... tierd.... so very sleepy.... And most of them came out... there are a few chips though.... this is why that bumper gets repainted every damn year.... at least all the oil is finally off the windshield :lol:

TitaniumTT
05-12-2011, 12:23 PM
There's a list every year!

Touching yourself should be no. 1 on that list. :)

The list never ends.... it just keeps getting recycled and added tooo and they things get done, then things break then things get added and wash rinse repeat :willy_nilly:

2gslse
05-12-2011, 09:37 PM
OK wed. is just about over did you get to Dave's today?

TitaniumTT
05-12-2011, 09:48 PM
Next Wednesday, the 18th.... and I think I'm going to have to puch it back a wee bit.... for a few reasons....

The boat that I was prepping today was a fucking stye!!! The shrinkwrap tore... or I should say the yard that stored the piece of poo tore the shrinkwrap and 6 month worth of shit flew in, mold, dirt, all kinds of nastiness... it's a miracle the thing is as clean as it is. Of course I realized this AFTER I slept in a little, lalligagged around, did some errands, touched myself, looked at the landi, played with my dogs THEN I uncovered the damn thing.... ugh... I wanted to get the landi's wiring done today as well and if the boat hadn't kicked my ass until 20:30... I probably would've.... bastard made me work for my money this year :rofl: So now I'm thinking I'll use Wednesday... the next day off.... yes that is technically 1 day off in 2 weeks.... to do the landi and I'll use the extra time to finish off the small list I have for the FC.

I need to get a hydaylic press as well and I'm going to have to pull the UIM to weld on some fittings, wait for lines to be made etc etc etc...... WHY DIDN"T YOU WELD MY HOOD SHUT!@!!!!!!!

Oh.... I'll be experimenting with brake pads as well :rofl: 43 days till Limerock!!!!

vex
05-12-2011, 10:00 PM
I'm tuning tomorrow. you should make the trip.;)

EJayCe996
05-12-2011, 10:56 PM
:smilielol5: THat's right!@!! I remember now.... Yeah, those things are monsters... Brian does like very much.


I'm trying to remember what I said but I had way too much moonshine by that point. Watching you do your bearings was hard enough to concentrate on.

TitaniumTT
05-13-2011, 06:38 PM
I'm tuning tomorrow. you should make the trip.;)

Where are you tuning? You going to my sweetie Davey?

TitaniumTT
05-13-2011, 07:07 PM
I'm trying to remember what I said but I had way too much moonshine by that point. Watching you do your bearings was hard enough to concentrate on.
:rofl: that's because there was a hobbit jumping around distracting everyone :lol:

vex
05-13-2011, 07:29 PM
Where are you tuning? You going to my sweetie Davey?

unfortunately I'm not. I'm too poor for that. Tuning will consist of me sitting in the car and hopping I get it drivable.

2gslse
05-13-2011, 07:45 PM
I would get it running and driving but Dave is very reasonable and highly recommended

vex
05-13-2011, 07:51 PM
I understand that. The issue is, I literally have only enough cash to get me to northern va and to my internship for the first two weeks. My car is no where near where I want it to be nor do I think any sane person would strap it to a dyno yet. Dave is just out of the question and I need the thing drivable yesterday.

TitaniumTT
05-13-2011, 09:14 PM
It's not that Dave is reasonable, it's that HE CHARGES NO WHERE NEAR WHAT HE IS WORTH!!!!!!!

The man should be charging 4-8X what he does, for the amount of time he spends on each car.... it's ridiculous, it really is. Seriously T, get it running, make it driveable.... get it to where it's safe, then go to Dave. He'll take care of ya... shit, if you're lucky I'll even drive out for the event :rofl::biggthumpup:

RX7's make pisspoor dailies unless they're n/a and pretty bone stock... I've been saying this for years. People who want to drive modded 7's need some form of daily driving reliability.... I have my faithful Mighty XJ :grouphug:

Monkman33
05-13-2011, 09:20 PM
I have two daily drivers. That way the likelihood of being stuck driving the 7 as a daily becomes negligible.

knonfs
05-13-2011, 09:48 PM
I would be if I wasn't working 12+ hrs a day... tomorrow is my first day off since I got back, and my last for another week.... and I'll be prepping a boat for the season, then working on the Landi, I GOTTA get that thing done. I did get a few parts orders in today though so that's a plus. I'm slated for Daves on Wednesday, we'll see what happens though....



I'm doing well, how bout you? Saw your ride in PA, what's the deal with that? Good luck man, it's a PITA to fab and plan to take the bumper on and off a dozen times. Worth it though. Getting the ends bent to fit will be kinda a bitch though..... BTW, I'm ordering plans for a tubing bender :reddevil:

Man, I am doing good. Per Dave, the car should beready in a couple of weeks, I cant wait.

I hear you on the bumper, problem is that with the OEM one, its extremely difficult to mount two oil coolers, without having to cut all kind of stuff. I spent a lot of time fitting those oem fd coolers, and well, after all that work, I am not terribly happy with the results.

A tubing bender eh? A hydraulic bender? Man, you are one crazy dude :sifone: Cant say I dont envy you tho :icon_tup:

WE3RX7
05-14-2011, 09:07 AM
Vex - you tuning in Culpeper this weekend? I'm around if you need some help getting it squared away.. I do agree w/ B and MC though, I would get it to Dave as soon as you can.. the man knows his shit and is well worth it.

vex
05-14-2011, 10:49 AM
Unfortunately I'm not WE3. I'm in Blacksburg attempting to tune it. I'll be posting in my build thread in a bit about that.

TitaniumTT
05-14-2011, 04:19 PM
I have two daily drivers. That way the likelihood of being stuck driving the 7 as a daily becomes negligible.

Wise man

Man, I am doing good. Per Dave, the car should beready in a couple of weeks, I cant wait.

I hear you on the bumper, problem is that with the OEM one, its extremely difficult to mount two oil coolers, without having to cut all kinjddmj of stuff. I spent a lot of time fitting those oem fd coolers, and well, after all that work, I am not terribly happy with the results.

A tubing bender eh? A hydraulic bender? Man, you are one crazy dude :sifone: Cant say I dont envy you tho :icon_tup:

Yup, hydraulic tubing bender, should open up a few more doors of the things that I can build. Also picking up a 12 ton press this week and a set of some sort of dies :suspect:

Doing any kind of dual oilcooler setup in an FC is going to be a PITA. Hell, even with my bumper it was a nightmare. So much of that ductin had to be cut away, THEN I had to add a ton of it to the top of the ducts to mate up with the oil coolers. Nightmare.... sorta. The one thing that I wish I had been able to do would've beed to find coolers that I could've tucked up against the wheel wells. The ducting would've been long, tight, and very effective..... and I would've been able to easily add in for brake ducting. I'm scratching my head on that one now but I have a few pretty sexy ideas in mind.

When Dave is done are you going to take the car back for a bit to breakin or just get straight on the dyno?

TitaniumTT
05-14-2011, 04:21 PM
Unfortunately I'm not WE3. I'm in Blacksburg attempting to tune it. I'll be posting in my build thread in a bit about that.

Yeah, post that shit in yer own damn thread. We don't wanna hear your haltech horror/woe stories here.... this is the big boy toy thread where if it ain't MoTeC..... its low tech :smilielol5:

Would you be able to get it to CT?

vex
05-14-2011, 08:10 PM
Not anytime soon. Car is not tuned yet. The rain has delayed me yet again.

TitaniumTT
05-14-2011, 08:51 PM
Make it driveable and get to CT, I'll help ya street tune her.

Duffman692002
05-15-2011, 02:10 PM
Those things are AWESOME! Did you see the size of the rotors! Were you out there when we were taking them apart? i know AJ came out in disbelief just to make sure that I actually brought a rotary :lol:

when I woke up to FB bashing I had to come to their defense. Actually seeing was awesome, those brakes are pretty damn nice. When are you gonna take them off that piece of shit and put them on something that deserves, and needs, that kind of stopping power?

TitaniumTT
05-15-2011, 08:39 PM
Like what? An FB? The car that has the same suspension as a 60's rustang.... I'll tell you what.... I'll give you ONE of my used pads... You can open the door and drag it on the grnd to stop or you can go Flinstone style with it, dealers choice. :rofl:

Renesisking
05-16-2011, 12:15 AM
I didn't read this thread in its entirety but if you are going with a 6speed tranny, are you doing the RX-8 manual like you were talking about a long time ago? Last I talked to dave, it should bolt up fairly easily (to the FD anyway) I am assuming that the tranny bolt points for the engines don't change too drastically. Should be interesting to see and also I am assuming you are going to rebuild the tranny with your own custom ratios and make it able to take that much load.

TitaniumTT
05-16-2011, 11:01 AM
Yup, its based off the FE tranny, with a different extension housing.
It will "bolt" up to any 13b rotary, problems with fitmewnt are the slave cylinder and the overall length of the thing. As far as custom ratios, not a chance for 2 reasons... the cost would make a dogbox seem cheap, and the ratios of the stock FE box are damn near perfect. My only complaint is OD should be in the low .7's, not the .84 that it is.
As far as strength is concerned..... without giving away any secrets, think about what's going on when all these trannies "blow-up." It has nothing to do with the strength of the tranny, mine included. Although that did stop us from cryo treating it JIC... afterall, I'm putting more than 2x the tourque of the silly little renni through it. For for few auto-x's that it did survive, the tranny was AWESOME! It failed on me pussy footing home... go figure.

TitaniumTT
05-16-2011, 11:02 AM
Yup, its based off the FE tranny, with a different extension housing.
It will "bolt" up to any 13b rotary, problems with fitmewnt are the slave cylinder and the overall length of the thing. As far as custom ratios, not a chance for 2 reasons... the cost would make a dogbox seem cheap, and the ratios of the stock FE box are damn near perfect. My only complaint is OD should be in the low .7's, not the .84 that it is.
As far as strength is concerned..... without giving away any secrets, think about what's going on when all these trannies "blow-up." It has nothing to do with the strength of the tranny, mine included. Although that did stop us from cryo treating it JIC... afterall, I'm putting more than 2x the tourque of the silly little renni through it. For for few auto-x's that it did survive, the tranny was AWESOME! It failed on me pussy footing home... go figure.

EJayCe996
05-16-2011, 12:05 PM
Like what? An FB? The car that has the same suspension as a 60's rustang.... I'll tell you what.... I'll give you ONE of my used pads... You can open the door and drag it on the grnd to stop or you can go Flinstone style with it, dealers choice. :rofl:

That's too much braking power for an FB, not only will the windshield pop out, but the car will nosedive then flip on it's top.

TitaniumTT
05-16-2011, 12:23 PM
If he did the open the door thing and drag the pad.... I concur... however.... if he's thinking about taking the whole brake setup he would first need to upgrade from the 115/110/10 tires that are on there now

knonfs
05-16-2011, 01:58 PM
Wise man



Yup, hydraulic tubing bender, should open up a few more doors of the things that I can build. Also picking up a 12 ton press this week and a set of some sort of dies :suspect:


Did I mentioned that I envy you??? LOL

I've done pretty much everytihng on my car, and I can attest that there is nothing like having the right tools (and space to have them)


Doing any kind of dual oilcooler setup in an FC is going to be a PITA. Hell, even with my bumper it was a nightmare. So much of that ductin had to be cut away, THEN I had to add a ton of it to the top of the ducts to mate up with the oil coolers. Nightmare.... sorta. The one thing that I wish I had been able to do would've beed to find coolers that I could've tucked up against the wheel wells. The ducting would've been long, tight, and very effective..... and I would've been able to easily add in for brake ducting. I'm scratching my head on that one now but I have a few pretty sexy ideas in mind.

When Dave is done are you going to take the car back for a bit to breakin or just get straight on the dyno?

Yup, I had to cut off a lot of material from the bumper cover, and the ducting... What ducting LOL! Since I went with a water to air setup, I might have space to mount an oil cooler near the factory place. I like you idea, but at this point, I want to keep hings stupid simple. Dont tell anybody, but I am getting tired of all work and no fun with this damn car :svengo:

I ended up using a used reman rew engine, there shouldnt be a need for a break in :suspect: Dave asked me to call him on Wed, cant wait LOL!

EJayCe996
05-16-2011, 09:21 PM
If he did the open the door thing and drag the pad.... I concur... however.... if he's thinking about taking the whole brake setup he would first need to upgrade from the 115/110/10 tires that are on there now

The only problem with that is the brake kit is so awesome and would work so well that his FB wouldn't even be able to move even though the brake pedal isn't even depressed.

WE3RX7
05-16-2011, 09:46 PM
Make it driveable and get to CT, I'll help ya street tune her.

Its a trap Vex - he's a hater :)

With all the simplicity, he won't know what to do! Honestly though, he's a baller... :grouphug:

TitaniumTT
05-16-2011, 11:05 PM
Did I mentioned that I envy you??? LOL

DON'T! I've got too much on my plate and things keep popping up! Right now my FC is back on jackstands for a few "minor" things :rolleyes:

The Landi is still here and I haven't TOUCHED that in about 6 weeks :banghead:

The 'vert is still waiting for my loving yet "forcefull" touch :suspect:

The FD is covered in little helicopter seeds and the first thing I need to do when I get started with that PJ is build a "frame" dolly and a hydraulic rotisserie

My buddy is going to be bringing his FD over so we can pull the engine, paint the bay, do some repairs and more modifications

I want to get the boat out of storage
aaaaaaaannnnnnnddddd I'm working 6+days a week and 10+hrs each day.... I need a clone...


I've done pretty much everytihng on my car, and I can attest that there is thing like having the right tools (and space to have them)

That's something to be proud of right there. Tools are great, space is key..... I've found that cars are much more compact when you don't take them apart :rofl:

Yup, I had to cut off a lot of material from the bumper cover, and the ducting... What ducting LOL! Since I went with a water to air setup, I might have space to mount an oil cooler near the factory place. I like you idea, but at this point, I want to keep hings stupid simple. Dont tell anybody, but I am getting tired of all work and no fun with this damn car :svengo:

Yeah, the stock ducting leaves alot to be desired, that's for damn sure..... That's kinda why I ditched everything and started anew. I've found that ducting is key...... And each heat exchanger having it's own source of fresh air is key as well. The exit speed of the air after it passes through the exchanger is abysmal, so having an uniterupted flow is trully beneficial.

I think I'm going to try an A2W setup on the next engine that I build... especially since I'm looking for a stock TII pull-out and I'll be using the stock TII TMIC but with some mods done to increase the flow through it... I'll also be using the Atihun hood that is upstairs in my closet sandwiched between the Landi hood and the carbon fibre Atihun hood for the FD.... yes, that's right, there are currently 3 hoods in my closet.... before DGRRXI there were 4

I ended up using a used reman rew engine, there shouldnt be a need for a break in :suspect: Dave asked me to call him on Wed, cant wait LOL!

Cool..... I was SUPPOSED to be @ Dave's on Wednesday for the tranny.... but work said, "NO DAY OFF FOR YOU!!!!!"

TitaniumTT
05-16-2011, 11:07 PM
The only problem with that is the brake kit is so awesome and would work so well that his FB wouldn't even be able to move even though the brake pedal isn't even depressed.

That's becuase the 12a lacks the torque to rotate those 13.25"x 1.25" front and 12.2" x.81" rear rotors :rofl:

TitaniumTT
05-16-2011, 11:09 PM
Its a trap Vex - he's a hater :)[quote]

Yup, so much a hater that I'm think about hitting up C. Ludwig for a SRE for the 'vert if I can't find a complete pull-out...

[QUOTE=WE3RX7;149433]With all the simplicity, he won't know what to do! Honestly though, he's a baller... :grouphug:

This is true.... you'll have to walk me through the helltechs DOS based software :smilielol5: oh wait..... :biggrinjester:

WE3RX7
05-17-2011, 07:35 PM
Shit - I'm not even that big a haltech guy. My use has been 75% revolving around microtechs. LT8, LT8X and the LT-10s... then later the interceptor-x. I've only used one haltech before and that was the e6k about 10 years ago, lol.

I think you'd be wise to go SRE on the vert though, it seems like a good unit for the price and can get you where you want on that car.

hades
05-17-2011, 08:33 PM
post the fucking pictures you have been hiding. :fawk:

TitaniumTT
05-17-2011, 08:37 PM
:rofl::smilielol5: I'd say I'll stab you in the eye but
1) You're alot bigger than I am
2) You saved us from the "GRASS!!!!!!!!!"
3) I needed that laugh today ;)

I'll get to them..... eventually :rofl: hopefully tonight after I go through some laundry and get some stuff organized.... I just yesterday cleaned my car out from DGRRXI.... I found 2 empty 20oz RedBull cans :smilielol5:

TitaniumTT
05-17-2011, 08:42 PM
Shit - I'm not even that big a haltech guy. My use has been 75% revolving around microtechs. LT8, LT8X and the LT-10s... then later the interceptor-x. I've only used one haltech before and that was the e6k about 10 years ago, lol.

Oh, you mean that ecu that's so powerful it can't save different maps for fear of the universe imploding? :rofl:

I think you'd be wise to go SRE on the vert though, it seems like a good unit for the price and can get you where you want on that car.

That's what I'm thinking... plus I can build my own harness.... It'll either be the SRE or the RTek 2.0 someone found me a bitchin' deal on :suspect: Now I just need a turbo longblock hint hint anyone hint hint.....

TitaniumTT
05-17-2011, 09:16 PM
post the fucking pictures you have been hiding. :fawk:

Tell ya what.... I've got like 100 or so pics, So I'll do like a system a night until thier all done with.... tongiht will be cooling system becuase well, that got the most attention over the winter.....

WE3RX7
05-17-2011, 09:17 PM
You can save different maps now, but on the dongle. As far as I know, the ecu still doesn't store them. Not a big deal though really... I can save all the config files to the laptop.

Make sure that RTek is for a turbo engine, not NA :)

vex
05-17-2011, 09:19 PM
I think if I showed TTT my engine bay he would rage and make me his little midget bitch... Though I think I'm bigger than him.

TitaniumTT
05-17-2011, 09:55 PM
So, one of the things that I wanted to address over the winter was the cooling system in the little piece of poo. Not that it wasn't running as wonderfully as it should, becuase my coolant temps never got above 175* on the highway as long as we were moving, and never breached 180* on The Dragon or HellBender, more, it was a few little quirks that bothered me about them. One, was the lack of -16 lines on the rad :rofl: Two wasthe perpetual air-bubble that was ALWAYS in the radiator becuase of how I mounted it, Three was the sheer hideousness of the factory T-stat housing and the maze of passageways in there, four was the air-bubble that always presented itself on first start-up after refilling the cooling system. THe SOP for purging said bubble WAS to start the car, let it get to 185* when the fan kicked on, watch the temp skyrocket to 195*, shut her down, come back in 20 minutes and carefully crack the AST open and let all the air out, add approx 2 pints of coolant, be on your way..... kind of a PITA if you ask me.... so lets address these problems shall we?

First thing I did was get rid of the stock T-stat housing in place of a piece that I built. Pretty simple actually, and very atractive if you ask me. At the end of the day I didn't even need any sealant either, the flange mounts tight enough to use the factory t-stat gasket ring. @ 20psi, there are no leaks. I was pleased

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10430&stc=1&d=1305686525

Next up, was tackling the same but this time on the lower rad hose. This is probably the least close to a stock waterpump housing as you can get :lol: All the barb fittings have been removed. THe return from the heater core, which also collects from the AST has already been converted to a -10, and right below the new upper rad hose connection you can see what was once a plug has been converted to a 1/4"npt to -4 fitting. This -4 fitting connects to the coolant outlet at the rear iron. This is where I believe the air was being trapped. A long time ago when I first built this engine I took the barb out and tapped it to 1/4" npt and put an allen plug in it. Over the winter all I did was pull that plug out and put in an AL adapter, built a line and plumbed it from the rear iron to the WP housing. I believe this was key to eliminating the air pockets, as well as the mods I did to the rad. You'll also note what was once the return from the turbo's has also been converted to a -6, as was the feed on the back on the WP housing... so yeah..... there is a distinct lack of hose clamps :rofl:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10431&stc=1&d=1305686525

Here we have the completed WP housing. Everything powdercoated as well.... all the little pieces that I can fit in my electric oven I powdercoat. Anything bigger I send out to a guy I have local who does incredible work.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10432&stc=1&d=1305686525


The thing to note on this pic is the tapped fitting at the top of the WP housing. This is now the highest point of the cooling system on the engine. This get's plumbed into the custom AST that I built that mounts on the passenger side strut tower.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10433&stc=1&d=1305686525

Here we see it plumbed in place. I took the Tweakit Racing Idler pulley kit and drilled and tapped it to mount an adel clamp the keep the line secure and free from the rather quickly spinning belts. I know it's not an ideal routing as this is what is supposed to collect and purge all the trapped air, but it seems to work quite well actually. I believe because when you first start the car up, the waterpump is of course going to try to move some coolant. With the T-stat closed, and no jiggle pin (which I found odd considering it's a Mazda genuine part) the coolant is circulating through the path of least resistance. This would be through the AST and the heater core and that particular line and of course the line from the rear iron to the lower side of the WP housing. I believe that all the air is purged from the system upon first start-up. Any air that makes it's way back into the system upon cooling is instantly purged as well. This is probably why I was able to run 1500 miles without any coolant in the overflow tank and a bunch of air getting sucked back in.... yeah yeah my dumbass didn't fully tighen a cap after checking the coolant and it got lost somewhere in Virgina doing a burn-out infront of some car with the license plate FRSH-SXY :smilielol5: I NEED to find a pic of this car... it was epic.... anyway... I knew of the coolant and decided to test how well it all worked... I was pleased. Why everyone ditches the AST is beyond me. I went to great lengths to add one for a good reason.

TitaniumTT
05-17-2011, 10:11 PM
Next on the Chopping block was the radiator. When I first had Griffen build me this rad, they built it with 1.5" inlet, 1.75" outlet becuase someone didn't read carefully (not a big deal and to Griffins credit, they wanted me to ship it back to them on thier dime, send me a new one with the proper size on it. I ended up just hitting up my tub of ky (seriously) and smearing it on a stock hose and on the barb, adding a little heat and it slid on and never leaked, so I didn't see the need to send it back, but kudo's to Griffin for their service, couldn't be happier) ANYWHO.... I never liked the way I had it plumbed. It just bothered me. It didn't leak, but getting the t-bolts on was a pain and it just wasn't very visually appealing... so out came the hack saw.

OH NOES!!!!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10434&stc=1&d=1305687964

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10435&stc=1&d=1305687964

After that it was pretty easy to weld on the -16 bungs. Griffin warned me about transferring the welding heat to the epoxy on the sides. The answer was to just fill the rad with water. What you DON'T want to do though is fill it with water and then seal it off. When you're welding, the heat from the welding heats the water. This causes it to expand. If you're unlucky enough you get a blowout and hot water in your face...... :willy_nilly: and no this never happened to me ;)

When Griffin originally built this rad they added a 1/4" female NPT bung on the passenger side tank for the AST... however they put it in the wrong spot. Not a big deal, just add another one :D higher though, on the adjacent plane where the top of the rad will be. This is the second fitting that is connected to my AST. You can see it on the top right in the pic. You can also see the -6 Male bung lower left that I use for flushing and draining. It works very well and again, no hose clamps.... I CAN'T STAND IT when people plug unused coolant fittings with bolts and RTV... some may or may not remember this rant... you probably would as I had almost completely lost my voice and was getting rather worked up about it :rofl:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10436&stc=1&d=1305687964

And the rad mounted..... damn that looks alot better than what I started with

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10437&stc=1&d=1305687964

TitaniumTT
05-17-2011, 10:25 PM
Lastly is the AST. I really didn't have to do much to this except add a 2nd 1/4" npt bung for the outlet from the rad. That and scrape off all the old powdercoating so i could recoat it..... OH... and I FINALLY after looking for like a year, found a rad cap that matches all of the other caps that I have under the hood. I was so happy I literally jumped up and down and did the bus-driver after I bought it.:party:

The AST is pretty simple and very effective at purging air from a cooling system. Basically you plumb in the two highest points in the cooling system, the highes on the engine, and the highes on the rad, this if course being a rad without a cap, into the AST. The AST has the pressure cap on it.

All of the air in the cooling system collects in the AST. The bottom of the AST is plumbed on the vacuum side of the flow, lower rad hose going into the engine. in my case I have a T-fitting on the frame rail that is also the return from the heater core. From the T it goes into the -10 bung on the lower portion of the "stock" :rofl: WP housing. So, air and coolant go in, coolant comes out the bottom. Air stays in the AST. The AST is also the filling location

When the cooling system heats up, coolant expands. The air is purged from the AST through the pressure cap, and into the overflow tank. Plumbing from the pressure cap MUST be into the bottom of the overflow tank otherwise the system will just continue to suck air in when it cools. This is what was happening to me the entire trip, but I knew about it and it actually was never a problem

So, on my AST, the top fitting on the side comes from the top of the WP housing. THe highest point in the cooling system on the engine. The bottom fitting comes from the rad, the highest point on the rad. The one in-line with the cap is plumbed into the overflow. Isn;t that a damn good looking cap??

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10438&stc=1&d=1305689036

That's right bitches.... them 2 fittings be PERFECTLY aligned... yes, I spent the time to fit the fittings and double check before I welded them up for certain..... hey... suck it... I am that guy and you all know it accepted em for it :lol: Isn't that a damn good looking cap though?

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10439&stc=1&d=1305689036

When I get some batteries tomorrow I'll add a pic of the fitting from the radiator to this post.... until then... I hope Hades is happy :biggrinjester:

TitaniumTT
05-17-2011, 10:33 PM
You can save different maps now, but on the dongle. As far as I know, the ecu still doesn't store them. Not a big deal though really... I can save all the config files to the laptop.

You still have to buy extra shit to make it work..... that's pretty lame

Make sure that RTek is for a turbo engine, not NA :)

:rofl:

I think if I showed TTT my engine bay he would rage and make me his little midget bitch... Though I think I'm bigger than him.

I might... I just might... but you have good reason... it's in development.... when it's all done though I'm going to come down there, tear it all out and say - NOW DO IT AGAIN!!!!! with paint and powdercoat and ceramic coat and well.... you already got that Raychem so at least that's one thing that you don't have to do over ;) I wanna see it damnit

Mazdabater
05-18-2011, 03:30 AM
Shoulda tig welded it lol.

mazpower
05-18-2011, 01:34 PM
yeah yeah my dumbass didn't fully tighen a cap after checking the coolant and it got lost somewhere in Virgina doing a burn-out infront of some car with the license plate FRSH-SXY :smilielol5: I NEED to find a pic of this car... it was epic...

Ask and ye shall receive... :rofl:

http://www.illicitperformance.com/images/freshsexy.jpg

MaczPayne
05-18-2011, 02:50 PM
Always improving, wonderful! Definitely giving me ideas about my future setup :)

hades
05-18-2011, 06:20 PM
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10432&stc=1&d=1305686525


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what is the gray "tank"? that would be under the UIM?

I hear you about the AST. Cummins is a whore about radiator fill and de-aeration testing.

More pictures. :suspect:

TitaniumTT
05-18-2011, 07:02 PM
what is the gray "tank"? that would be under the UIM?

Vacuum and pressure tanks for the sequential twins. Not only did I not have a place to mount them cleanly, but if you look at and read through all of the sequential diagnosis (at least the ones I was seen years ago when I first started this ever lasting nightmare) no one ever mentioned testing of the tanks. One of the tanks I bought for volumne measurement WAS leaking. Makes me wonder how many people poorly running sequentials were dropped becuase of a bad tank. Anywho, I thought this was cleaner, more elegant, and probably got rid of some headaches as well.

I hear you about the AST. Cummins is a whore about radiator fill and de-aeration testing.

It makes sense, that's a whole lotta load and heat. I think one of the reasons people overheat, blow engines, warp shit, whine, is because of airpockets trapped and creating hot spots. Just my thought though

More pictures. :suspect:

Soon.... SOON...

hades
05-18-2011, 07:33 PM
good solution for the pressure / vac tanks.

we vacuum fill the trucks at work. Its still a challenge to get a good fill because of all of the variations of trucks we build. Its hard not to get an air pocket trapped until after the dyno. Still I wish I had a vacuum fill at home.

hades
05-18-2011, 07:47 PM
FYI - since you are banned.

Tom94RX-7 dyno'd his car on stock non-seq. twins (street ported).

411hp max. 386 max torque. @22.9 psi. the different runs is base, 2% less and 2% more boost to hit 411.

just thought it would be interesting compare your numbers once you are tuned. But then again you do have those BNR's now. what were your old numbers?

TitaniumTT
05-18-2011, 11:39 PM
good solution for the pressure / vac tanks.

we vacuum fill the trucks at work. Its still a challenge to get a good fill because of all of the variations of trucks we build. Its hard not to get an air pocket trapped until after the dyno. Still I wish I had a vacuum fill at home.

Thanks man.... I dunno what a vacuum fill is... but it sounds cool



nice sig btw :smilielol5:

TitaniumTT
05-18-2011, 11:46 PM
FYI - since you are banned.

Tom94RX-7 dyno'd his car on stock non-seq. twins (street ported).

411hp max. 386 max torque. @22.9 psi. the different runs is base, 2% less and 2% more boost to hit 411.

just thought it would be interesting compare your numbers once you are tuned. But then again you do have those BNR's now. what were your old numbers?

Damn.... that's impressive but that is an ASSTON of boost!! Those turbo's won't last more than a few hundred mile at that boost level.... still though, impressive. He's also running a correction factor of 1.04, so pull the correction factor out and he's @ 395rwhp which is still impressive. I was @ 405 NS and 400 sequential and that was @ about 14-14.5 psi. I've got to get back now that we've got the BNR's on there and holding 17psi. One of the most impressive things about the BNR's was that it shifted the peak torque about 1000rpm. Peak torque was at about 7800... in other words, the thing just hauls ass and continues to accelerate till redline.

Oh, EMAP was reduced across the board as well, meaning that the BNR's are more effiecent that the stockers at any boost level. Need to get back on the dyno and get some real nuimbers then report back.

TitaniumTT
05-19-2011, 12:33 AM
So tonight, to appease Hades we will be discussing my rear brakes..... These are what I believe one of the keys to significantly shortening stopping distances. I've NEVER been able to lock up the rears in this car regardless of how hard I tried, how many different pads I tried, it didn't matter, the rears just don't want to lock up. Hell, they don't even want to dust all that much! The brakes in the front are massive, and that's really just to deal with the heat, give me as much torque and clamping force as possible, and a WIDE selection of pads.

Here's what came from FastBrakes. We've got a set of custom hats, a pair of wilwood rotors - 12.2x.81", a pair of wilwood Combination P-Brake Calipers... single piston sliding with an ebrake mechanism, a Lokar e-brake cable kit and a set of wilwood BP-10 pads. Believe it or not, the stock... well, the stainless braided lines that I have fit perfectly. They just needed to be slightly re-clocked.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10442&stc=1&d=1305782919

Stock rotor on top, and the new bare rotors underneath..... more bigger = more gooder when it comes to brakes ;)

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10443&stc=1&d=1305782919

You can see that the thickness of the disc is about the same. On the bottom is an assembled rotor, on the top is a bare rotor and the stock rotor ontop of it.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10444&stc=1&d=1305782919

Stock caliper in the wheel... as you can see there is plenty of room in there for something more gooder...

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10445&stc=1&d=1305782919

Bare rear upright with the adapter bracket installed. I actually pulled those studs out and cut them a little shorter.... just because that's the way I am....

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10446&stc=1&d=1305782919

And the installed rear kit in the wheel

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10447&stc=1&d=1305782919

As you can see... there isn't much room for anything else....

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10448&stc=1&d=1305782919

The Ebrake cable kit was pretty damn easy to install. They had the wilwood caliper in mind when they designed it so mating it to the cali was pretty damn easy. I then ran the cables under and around the uprights, up along the swing arm and to that little sweet spot on the chassis where the stockers meet.... it really is a nice little kit. To attach it to the factory cable, I took the little block that was pre-drilled and tapped to use those little allen key set screws and welded that to the factory cable splitter. Then attached the cables, tightened them down and viola.... a wonderfully functioning e-brake.

Bleeding the calis was a PITA though, I mounted the left on the right and the right on the left to make it easier to run the e-brake cable. If I had mounted them on the proper sides..... the cable would've had to take a few really tight turns and I was afraid that it would wear fast, kink, not work very smoothly.

As you can imagine, bleeding a new caliper when the bleeder screw isn't on the top, can be a little................ time consuming I guess. Mazpower was intown and helping me out and he had a great idea.... cut a block of wood to wedge in the caliper to keep the piston from moving when you pull the cali off to bleed it. Damn good idea. I've since bought a really sweet little brake caliper service KIT that I can use to hold the pistons in place for bleeding.... pretty cool stuff. I keep finding myself tightening down the prop valve getting more and more braking force in the rear. One of these days I'll torture the car around a few local rds and quickly get out with my little lazer thermo-probe and decide if I need to bump up the rear pads. Sadly, there isn't a big selection of rear pads for this caliper. I'm thinking about buying the hotter set of pads and sending the pads I have now out to Carbotech... they claim they will build a pad for any caliper if they have a set of pads.... hmmmmmm... this is interesting for damn sure.

Anywho... that basically covers the rears... I'll try to get a few pics of the ebrake setup over the next day or two... I guess.... maybe..... GRASS!!!

TitaniumTT
05-19-2011, 12:35 AM
just a fwe more pics....

hades
05-19-2011, 06:00 AM
Thanks man.... I dunno what a vacuum fill is... but it sounds cool



nice sig btw :smilielol5:

we pull a vacuum on the system has its filled - in theory there should be no air trapped.

TitaniumTT
05-19-2011, 08:05 AM
How well does practice line up with theory?

hades
05-19-2011, 06:08 PM
simple truck - pretty good.

when we have one with a lot of options like fuel fired sleeper heaters, fuel tank heaters, auxiliary power unit hook ups - then it becomes a little more complex. We have too much variation in the cooling system to define fixed amounts of coolant to add per truck.

Most car/truck systems are vacuum filled in the factories. We have less than 6 minutes to fill a truck. The car manufactures will have much less.

I did get to mess around with LNG fuel fill today. The fill hose is braided SS. It turned white from the frost that formed on it. Guess -235 deg F is cold.

Anyways - less about my work - more about your POS. More pictures!:biggrinjester:

TitaniumTT
05-19-2011, 08:17 PM
maybe...... Tonight might be front brakes... or I may touch myself and go to sleep :rofl:

I just spent a bunch of money on dies to work with my new 12T something or other I picked up yesterday and have yet to assemble :suspect:

EJayCe996
05-19-2011, 10:18 PM
I hate you... I hate you for handing me the fastbrakes flyer... I hate you for causing me to add this to my spreadsheet.

TitaniumTT
05-19-2011, 11:28 PM
:rofl: what's your addy? I'll send you some FastBrakes bottle openers and LED keychains that I found in the very bottom of the box....

Love them brakes... just don't like the pads.... must fix that issue and soon

fc3sfreak415
05-20-2011, 08:28 AM
beautiful car im currently building up a 13B-RE motor for my vert and ive got a carbed fb as a daily lol

mazpower
05-20-2011, 12:07 PM
Love them brakes... just don't like the pads.... must fix that issue and soon

The pads went out on the Miata...not even 8 months old with just one track day on them. :banghead: Fortunately it started scraping right down the street from the house...talked to Miguel and bought some $40 street pads from Wilwood to hold me over. Before I track the car again, its getting slotted rotors and Carbotech pads. Wilwood pads suck giant floppy donkey dick!

EJayCe996
05-20-2011, 03:27 PM
The pads went out on the Miata...not even 8 months old with just one track day on them. :banghead: Fortunately it started scraping right down the street from the house...talked to Miguel and bought some $40 street pads from Wilwood to hold me over. Before I track the car again, its getting slotted rotors and Carbotech pads. Wilwood pads suck giant floppy donkey dick!

sweet, because carbotechs are what I've been running since I swapped in the 4 pistons and I'm probably never going to use anything else... ever.

mazpower
05-20-2011, 04:32 PM
sweet, because carbotechs are what I've been running since I swapped in the 4 pistons and I'm probably never going to use anything else... ever.

I'm a HUGE Carbotech fan...been running XP10s and XP8s in the FD for years now. Had them in my AW11 too. I used the Wilwood pads cause they came with the kit, I asked for the E-production pads. They don't feel as good on the track and absolutely suck on the street, in comparison to the XP10s.

TitaniumTT
05-20-2011, 05:40 PM
Which compound are you running in the FD now? Cuz the lockup was quick! I need basically the weakest compound they have to give me the most modulation and highest rear bias.

mazpower
05-20-2011, 06:44 PM
Which compound are you running in the FD now? Cuz the lockup was quick! I need basically the weakest compound they have to give me the most modulation and highest rear bias.

I prefer XP10 front XP8 rear. In a non ABS system like you're running, either the XP10 or 8 will give you great modulation and excellent bite. 10 is good for the street and phenomenal once warmed up...8 is excellent for the street and doesn't dust as much. Don't stagger them on your setup, run the same pad between front and rear and you'll get the rear bias you're looking for.

hades
05-20-2011, 08:31 PM
pictures. :beatdeadhorse5:

TitaniumTT
05-21-2011, 08:24 AM
Teasers till I get back from work tonight..... and one to post in the Peoples Choice Awards :suspect:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10452&stc=1&d=1305984221

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10453&stc=1&d=1305984221

vex
05-21-2011, 08:36 AM
You're old and smell of moth balls.

TitaniumTT
05-21-2011, 08:41 AM
I shall make your post count that of your cars recorded torque............. 0 :lol:

vex
05-21-2011, 09:01 AM
:squint: I am not amused... and neither is she:
http://blog.prosperyourmind.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/gallery_Renaissance_Festivals_Tennessee_Renaissanc e_Festival_2005_Queen_Elizabeth_tnrf-2005-QElizabeth-006.jpg

TitaniumTT
05-21-2011, 09:14 AM
Neither are the legions of 12A followers..... Oh wait... legions??? :rofl: I can only think of 1 person who actually likes an engine that has exhaust ports the size of a peanut and the torque of.... well..... a weedwhacker.....

She looks like she could use...... something....

vex
05-21-2011, 10:14 AM
I think she could use a ride in your chariot of fire (and burning when you urinate).


:lol: Man I wish I could work on my car right now. Blah.

2gslse
05-22-2011, 04:17 AM
Neither are the legions of 12A followers..... Oh wait... legions??? :rofl: I can only think of 1 person who actually likes an engine that has exhaust ports the size of a peanut and the torque of.... well..... a weedwhacker.....

She looks like she could use...... something....



The 12A will be coming out soon. its sad to think back in the day they were some of the fastest cars on the street. I am taking my cosmo plates to work today for degreasing

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 07:29 AM
Oh nice... someone else who has to work today.... awesome isn't it?

Does the Cosmo powered FB have an estimated completion date?

WE3RX7
05-22-2011, 09:49 AM
Does the Cosmo powered FB have an estimated completion date?

Right after my FC is done :)

Nutsid
05-22-2011, 11:21 AM
Neither are the legions of 12A followers..... Oh wait... legions??? :rofl: I can only think of 1 person who actually likes an engine that has exhaust ports the size of a peanut and the torque of.... well..... a weedwhacker.....

She looks like she could use...... my cawk of supreme justice......

Fixed for accuracy.

2gslse
05-22-2011, 05:41 PM
Right after my FC is done :)


WAY WAY WAY before the FC is done hopefully this summer I'll be running/driving. I will be on my second or third engine by time the FC is done:smilielol5:

after getting it most of the way together I may have to drag it to CT for a bit of TT love what time of year is best for you?

BTW... my GF said there is a rotorhead at work with an anniversary FC and a cosmo twin FB running around I'll know more this summer hopefully

2gslse
05-22-2011, 05:57 PM
Oh nice... someone else who has to work today.... awesome isn't it?

I never minded working weekends or holidays this one was planned on friday so yea for me shift differential + a quiet day for me to work on my stuff on da clock. didn't get them cleaned as much as I wanted though.

mazpower
05-22-2011, 06:37 PM
Teasers till I get back from work tonight..... and one to post in the Peoples Choice Awards :suspect:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10453&stc=1&d=1305984221

Nice pic!

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 08:14 PM
Right after my FC is done :)

Sooooooooooooooooooooo when my third child is old enough to drive it?
























BTW - I'm not having kids



















So Yeah




















You're FC will never be done

















:party::biggrinjester:

WE3RX7
05-22-2011, 08:19 PM
This is true. How do you define done? I have a feeling it'll never be done. On the good side though, I didn't make that big purchase this weekend so I should be giving you a call early this week. Need to get moving on the stopping.

2gslse
05-22-2011, 08:41 PM
This is true. How do you define done? I have a feeling it'll never be done. On the good side though, I didn't make that big purchase this weekend so I should be giving you a call early this week. Need to get moving on the stopping.

And when you get to the bottom of the driveway are we just going to keep PUSHING it back into the garage so you can roll outside and try the brakes again?:D

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 08:48 PM
Fixed for accuracy.

:rofl: Thanks man... how ya been lately?

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 08:51 PM
WAY WAY WAY before the FC is done hopefully this summer I'll be running/driving.

Cool.... COOL!

I will be on my second or third engine by time the FC is done:smilielol5:

psh..... even if you never drove it that would be about right.

after getting it most of the way together I may have to drag it to CT for a bit of TT love what time of year is best for you?

As of lately.... none!! :rofl: What are you looking to get done?

BTW... my GF said there is a rotorhead at work with an anniversary FC and a cosmo twin FB running around I'll know more this summer hopefully

sequentially too?

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 08:53 PM
I never minded working weekends or holidays this one was planned on friday so yea for me shift differential + a quiet day for me to work on my stuff on da clock. didn't get them cleaned as much as I wanted though.

Meh, it kinda gets to me after a while..... no weekends during the winter... but there's no racing during the winter.... summers I work just about every weekend and most sundays there is a race somewhere... :banghead: I'm going to try to take the 5th off to get the brakes dialed in becuase there is no way I'm getting hte 18th off and those are the two auto-x's before LimeRock... WOOOOOO!!!

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 08:54 PM
Nice pic!

Yeah... She done GOOD with that one! A bunch of others too... maybe one of these days I'll resize and post them ;)

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 08:55 PM
This is true. How do you define done? I have a feeling it'll never be done. On the good side though, I didn't make that big purchase this weekend so I should be giving you a call early this week. Need to get moving on the stopping.

True... true.... my FC will never be done..... how about DRIVEABLE????? AT LEAST??? :smilielol5::rofl::lol::rofl::smilielol5:

Call... call away. I've got nothing but good news and a little tip that I knew about, but wish I had remembered before I used them...

2gslse
05-22-2011, 08:58 PM
As of lately.... none!! What are you looking to get done?

maybe get you to do the pipework for the exhaust/intercooler and the fenderbraces or frame braces we talked about a long time ago. I am going to try to keep my A/C so the intercooler pipes may be tricky but won't know till it goes in the hole.



sequentially too?

I don't know never met the guy but will find out when I do.

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 08:58 PM
And when you get to the bottom of the driveway are we just going to keep PUSHING it back into the garage so you can roll outside and try the brakes again?:D

He better make sure he get's those rotors plated so they don't rot away just sitting there :rofl:

2gslse
05-22-2011, 09:05 PM
He better make sure he get's those rotors plated so they don't rot away just sitting there :rofl:

Do you think we could pull it across the dragon with a tow strap?

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 09:10 PM
maybe get you to do the pipework for the exhaust/intercooler and the fenderbraces or frame braces we talked about a long time ago. I am going to try to keep my A/C so the intercooler pipes may be tricky but won't know till it goes in the hole.


I don't know never met the guy but will find out when I do.

I'd be curious to know for sure..........


We can definately work something out, just a matter of getting the timeline worked out.

My FC should be out of the garage in a week or 2, assuming I can start getting my ass up early enough to do some work before I have to go to work. THe Landi should be out in a few weeks as well.... I hope.... Colins Twin-Charged FD is coming in the next few weeks so we can haul the engine, repair the leaky pan, redo some plumbing, paint the bay, a few other things as well, the 'vert is going into the shop as soon as my FC is done so I can the process of re-doing the interior, rebuilding a turbo engine and swapping that in with an a2w intercooler...... Oh my... I need a clone or to get myself back on that, "I only need 4 hrs of sleep" kick again :smilielol5:

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 09:12 PM
Do you think we could pull it across the dragon with a tow strap?

As long as we use one of our rotaries..... we've got the torque to do it :rofl:

2gslse
05-22-2011, 09:19 PM
What turbo you using on the vert? when is the FD project?



We can definately work something out, just a matter of getting the timeline worked out.

timeline is easy on my end I am in no rush thats why its not done yet. I may bolt a set of webers on it to test the engine and break it in so when I'm ready to go so is the engine I had to baby my FD for so long (2500miles)on a base map before I could get it tuned it was killing me and it was in '03 or '04 so everyone wanted to race.

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 09:27 PM
Stock turbo for the time being.... I may upgrade it to a BNR Stg 1 or 2. There will also be some sort of ECU from the get go.... still trying to decide between a bitchin deal on an RTek or a hellteck SRE..

Oh shit that's right.... I own an FD too don't I???? :smilielol5:

2gslse
05-22-2011, 09:33 PM
S4 or S5 turbo? do you already have one?
just get the haltech you know you want to the r-tek would use an old ratty harness and be more limiting in the long run although limiting may be a good thing so you will leave it alone.

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 09:43 PM
S5, I don't, but I should have one by the end of the week. I've spoken to a seller and we just need to confirm a few things and then I'll be picking it up hopefully sometime this week.

Yeah I know what you mean. It's not a matter of leaving it alone, it's a matter of it's not for me. B-Day gift for my mother so reliabilty is tops on the list..... although I SHOULD do the helltech so I can do some serious data-logging with the A2W intercooler so I can figure a few things out for a future project :suspect:

2gslse
05-22-2011, 09:47 PM
If it falls through on the turbo I can hook you up I think I have 2 of them since its how I was originally going to go with the FB

since its for Mom and not you why air to H2O intercooler? seems to be asking for trouble to me

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 10:12 PM
Ok... so I've been slacking in the picture dept... but only in that dept..... So here to appease hades.... pics of the front brakes. And the most AWESOME license plate frame I've ever owned. Tomorrow... hopefully we can move onto the Master Cylinder, then the traction control, then the belly pan, then maybe some new tools will be in.... :suspect:


Sooooooooooooooooooo...... these rotors are bigger in diameter than some wheels:biggrinjester: Stock size rotor on the top, and that'll end up on the 'vert along with the pads that I've loved for a LONG ass time.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10455&stc=1&d=1306119863

And they're only slightly thicker. They measure in @ 13.25"x1.25" DAYUM!!!:party:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10456&stc=1&d=1306119863

New calipers. Wilwood Superlite 6-piston cali's. Go big or go home... and these are HUGE! And they look pretty good too ;)

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10457&stc=1&d=1306119863

Just slightly wider to accomodate the thicker rotors and much thicker pads....

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10458&stc=1&d=1306119863

And here's what came with the kit. A set of Coleman rotors and custom FastBrakes hats. A fw fittings as well. The cali's didn't come with the kit, I have a good friend who is a Wilwood dealer:party: I got a good deal on those. The brackets... which I don't have pics of, are SUBSTANTIAL. Mounting is kind of a PITA though because of where the threads are located. The bolts must go from the cali into the bracket, and then the bracket mounts to the knuckle. Not a big deal, just a little different.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10459&stc=1&d=1306119863

Notice the distance between the studs and the cali

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10460&stc=1&d=1306119863

Oh, and look at that monstore gap between the outside of the cali and the inner diameter of the wheel. Laughable!!!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10461&stc=1&d=1306119863

Slight difference

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10462&stc=1&d=1306119863

Yeah... WHAT space!!!!! I actually needed to get a 5mm spacer to offset the wheel enough to clear. I'm not a spacer guy and thought about getting the Superlits Narrows.... but the stance is more aestetically pleasing and she seems to handle the wider stance a wee bit better so we're gonna keep it this way.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10463&stc=1&d=1306119863

Yeah, it ACTUALLY spins... I was pleased :party:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10464&stc=1&d=1306119863

Now, with a bunch of extra stuff being up in that area, we needed a way to keep them all from getting mangled. I've got 12" flex lines that replaced the factory hardline from the strut to the cali. I've also got a 3-core shielded tefzel wire for the traction control as well. In the past, I just had the traction control wire ziptied to the hardline. Obviously can't do that here.... so I cut the tabs off the old old OLD ass struts and built this little piece.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10465&stc=1&d=1306119863

Then I torched and bent it around a tube .25" bigger than the c/o so I could pad it on the inside

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10466&stc=1&d=1306119863

And here it is being test fitted with a much shorter line. You'll also note the super sexy little mounting tab specifically for the deutsch connectors..... yup yup!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10467&stc=1&d=1306119863

And to think I put off building that little piece for 3 years and the whole thing was done, both pieces and powdercoated in like 90 minutes... I suck sometimes.

Happy hades?

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 10:16 PM
More pics..... see the above.... I'm slick like that....

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 10:17 PM
still slick :rofl:

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 10:32 PM
If it falls through on the turbo I can hook you up I think I have 2 of them since its how I was originally going to go with the FB

Money hasn't exchanged hands yet so if you want to post up or PM me what you've got, I'd be interested to know for sure!

since its for Mom and not you why air to H2O intercooler? seems to be asking for trouble to me

I sorta took the hood from the 'vert to make the replacement hood for my FC becuase I found an atihun hood for the 'vert that I just had to have when I thought I was going to keep it n/a.... then I decided I was going to boost it becuase.... well.... why the hell not?!?!? Actually there are some financial reasons for it, cost will be ABOUT the same... because I would more than likely put an ECU on there for a bunch of reasons, so now the cost is about the same to boost it. But now I don't have a hood, I'm not found of FMIC at all, EXPECIALLY with a stock sized turbo, so now I'm either going to need to find a TII hood, do a VMIC :rolleyes: or this SMIC turned w2a.... I like that idea the best. Definately the coolest and I get to experiment and play a little with what with essentially be a pretty bone stock car... by my standards anyway.

TitaniumTT
05-22-2011, 10:50 PM
OK, so a good friend of mine sorta left his camera behind at my shop so I could transfer his pics... and damn does it take nice pics!!

Anywho... remember that lower fitting on the AST, well here is where it's plumbed into the radiator. As close to the top as I could get it. Any air that gets trapped in the rad during filling should be purged out through this line and into the AST where it'll be purged into the overflow. I must say, the whole thing works really well.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10468&stc=1&d=1306122557

And here is the best license plate frame that I have ever owned. As per the new agreement, I need to display a MazdaSpeed logo somewhere on the car. The frame is awesome. Not only is it stainless steel... it has a really nicely laid out CF pattern, it has two rubber spacers for behind the bolts, it has a nice strip of rubber for the bottom of the plate, it comes with all stainless fasteners for either the rear machine threads or the front sheetmetal threads, there are a set of clear cup washers that are used with the caps to hide the fasteners.... I've only seen one other plate frame like this... and it's on my Mighty XJ :rofl:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=10469&stc=1&d=1306122557

2gslse
05-23-2011, 03:34 AM
Money hasn't exchanged hands yet so if you want to post up or PM me what you've got, I'd be interested to know for sure!



I sorta took the hood from the 'vert to make the replacement hood for my FC becuase I found an atihun hood for the 'vert that I just had to have when I thought I was going to keep it n/a.... then I decided I was going to boost it becuase.... well.... why the hell not?!?!? Actually there are some financial reasons for it, cost will be ABOUT the same... because I would more than likely put an ECU on there for a bunch of reasons, so now the cost is about the same to boost it. But now I don't have a hood, I'm not found of FMIC at all, EXPECIALLY with a stock sized turbo, so now I'm either going to need to find a TII hood, do a VMIC :rolleyes: or this SMIC turned w2a.... I like that idea the best. Definately the coolest and I get to experiment and play a little with what with essentially be a pretty bone stock car... by my standards anyway.



I'll look for the turbo/manifold this eve after work.


Will your mom keep up with keeping the H2O cold? if not wouldn't it be just hot air after a while? I thought W2A intercoolers were only suitable for drag racing could you enlighten me?

TitaniumTT
05-23-2011, 07:51 AM
Sweet, thanks pal! I would need an ENTIRE longblock..

That's what I want to mess around with, and this is why I would need a helltech with a bunch of inputs. I would need to see, ait's before the turbo, after the turbo, true AIT's and coolant temp before and after the heat exchanger.

I would use the AC condenser or a small radiator mounted where the condensor lives in the stock location, just a little farther forward away from the radiator. The thought is if I can keep the water close to ambient, I should be able to keep the AIT's close to ambient as well. This is the theory, and this is what I would like to test.

chibikougan
05-23-2011, 02:02 PM
Mmmmmm! Drive up here in august or september and help me with the fab work on my shits and I will help you with your fab shits? Half ya on gas and redbull. Will also take ya fishing at my stocked pond? I should have my Tig welder by then too. I am also currently looking into supplying the local refinery with mandrel bent tubing so there is a slight chance I may be doing that soon.


Oh and why no CF exhaust guards included in pic^^^

2gslse
05-23-2011, 03:38 PM
Sweet, thanks pal! I would need an ENTIRE longblock..


All I ever had was the turbo/manifold never had a complete longblock to work with( I have a boat anchor shortblock) thats why I decided to use a 13B-RE then a second apex RX6 kit popped up and had to go that route since I am happy with the one on the FD

hades
05-23-2011, 06:00 PM
Ok... so I've been slacking in the picture dept... but only in that dept..... So here to appease hades.... pics of the front brakes. And the most AWESOME license plate frame I've ever owned. Tomorrow... hopefully we can move onto the Master Cylinder, then the traction control, then the belly pan, then maybe some new tools will be in.... :suspect:

Happy hades?

MORE! I need more car porn, even if its your dirty bitch.

WE3RX7
05-23-2011, 07:17 PM
Stand by on the call...


Did you end up needing longer wheel studs? Just curious as I'm trying to avoid spacers as well and wanted to make sure everything stays relatively the same as far as length is concerned.

TitaniumTT
05-23-2011, 09:34 PM
Sweet, thanks pal! I would need an ENTIRE longblock..


All I ever had was the turbo/manifold never had a complete longblock to work with( I have a boat anchor shortblock) thats why I decided to use a 13B-RE then a second apex RX6 kit popped up and had to go that route since I am happy with the one on the FD

Ah I see.... ok then.... what kind of shape is that short block in?

I suspect you'll actually make a little more power with the RE than you do with the REW at similar boost levels. That lil' FB is gonna be a rocket!

TitaniumTT
05-23-2011, 09:35 PM
MORE! I need more car porn, even if its your dirty bitch.

I'll see what I can do about getting you some more spanking material... damn perverts....

TitaniumTT
05-23-2011, 09:38 PM
Stand by on the call...


Did you end up needing longer wheel studs? Just curious as I'm trying to avoid spacers as well and wanted to make sure everything stays relatively the same as far as length is concerned.

I did, bought them just need to install them. I've also got a set of 5mm hubcentric spacers as well. I'm not so sure you'll need them though. I have a suspicion that my BBS's will actually fit. Still waiting to get the 'vert out to actually test them out. Either way though I'm installing the longer wheel studs.

The other option would be to run a different caliper. I believe the Superlite Narrows would fit my Works without interferance but I have yet to did up thier spec sheets and verify that.

What wheels/offsets are you running? I think the thing to do would be to get the hat and rotor and install them, bolt the wheel up and then make your choice in caliper....

MaczPayne
05-24-2011, 12:22 AM
Nice brakes! If I ever end up out-growing mine, I'll drop a line :)

2gslse
05-24-2011, 03:25 AM
Ah I see.... ok then.... what kind of shape is that short block in?

I suspect you'll actually make a little more power with the RE than you do with the REW at similar boost levels. That lil' FB is gonna be a rocket!

I doubt it is any good at all anymore it got a little H2O in it and it won't turn over at all now so boat anchor or core for a reman is all I would count it as.

I hope the power of the RE is higher at similar boost as the REW esp. since it will be in a 2500lb car (2540 full street trim now) I think traction WILL be a small problem though
BTW... the engine will have a set of 9.4:1 rotors in it so the low to mid range power should make it really pull hard from 2,000 to wherever peak torque will be.

TitaniumTT
05-24-2011, 08:37 AM
Nice brakes! If I ever end up out-growing mine, I'll drop a line :)

Thanks Johnson..... something tells me you won't though... what are the sizes you're running again?

TitaniumTT
05-24-2011, 08:41 AM
I doubt it is any good at all anymore it got a little H2O in it and it won't turn over at all now so boat anchor or core for a reman is all I would count it as.

Ah.... gotcha... yeah... I need something that I can take apart, clean, replace the apex seals, maybe do a little porting and slap it all back together.

I hope the power of the RE is higher at similar boost as the REW esp. since it will be in a 2500lb car (2540 full street trim now) I think traction WILL be a small problem though
BTW... the engine will have a set of 9.4:1 rotors in it so the low to mid range power should make it really pull hard from 2,000 to wherever peak torque will be.

The runners are intake mani yeild themselves to more torque at lower ranges and the flow of the engine seems higher. The 9.4's will definately give it more kick in vac and the lower boost ranges but limit slightly the higherboost. Just keep an eye on the EGT's when tuning and all should be well. Should be a badass setup for sure.... especially in that little lightweight FB. Any traction control or aftermkt diff?

2gslse
05-24-2011, 10:22 AM
Any traction control or aftermkt diff?

so far no. just my right foot and a spare pumpkin

MaczPayne
05-24-2011, 02:37 PM
Thanks Johnson..... something tells me you won't though... what are the sizes you're running again?

They're 12.76 x 1.18 in the front, and 12.68 x .87 in the rear, I may shell out for a set of Stoptech 2pc's for less weight, but I'm really satisfied with what i have now. First set of brake pads are almost done!

TitaniumTT
05-24-2011, 04:43 PM
Nice.... what pads?

EJayCe996
05-24-2011, 08:02 PM
Shouldn't your license plate read 14 pstns now?

TitaniumTT
05-25-2011, 12:35 PM
Har har..... har haaaaaaarrrrrrrrrr.... Which reminds me I need to order my new Carbotech XP8's for the F&R


So last months Exxon Mobil bill, closing on like 5/8 was $658..... this months so far is $112 :smilielol5:

PhillipM
05-25-2011, 01:50 PM
So last months Exxon Mobil bill, closing on like 5/8 was $658..... this months so far is $112 :smilielol5:

Think yourself lucky, I can spend that in a weekend on fuel over here :(

MaczPayne
05-26-2011, 12:19 AM
Nice.... what pads?

Hawk HP+, I really enjoy them for some reason. They have a pretty hard initial bite that takes some getting used to, but after that - they're wonderful!

They dust like mad though.

I think I want to try some Endless MX12 or Porterfield R4-S, but the Hawks have been so cheap and so good that I might just buy them again.

TitaniumTT
05-26-2011, 07:26 AM
I was torn between the XP8's and the HP+'s, cost believe it or not almost swayed me to the Hawks than I looked at the cost of everything else, slapped myself in the face, shook my head and decided to try the Carbotechs. After talking to Glenn, and now hearing about your hard initial bite, I'm looking forward to the CT's. Hard initial bite and dust are something that I'm trying to avoid. The wilwood BP20's that are on there now can lock up pretty easy and there isn't much modulation... modulation is something that I'm trying to get the most of.

Are you running an adjustable prop valve?

PhillipM
05-26-2011, 05:24 PM
The XP8's are so far above BP20's in terms of outright power, bite, modulation, fade resistance and wear it's unreal.
Wilwood really need to bring some newer compounds to the table.

hades
05-26-2011, 06:20 PM
More car porn. I am done with the current pictures.;)

TitaniumTT
05-26-2011, 11:04 PM
The XP8's are so far above BP20's in terms of outright power, bite, modulation, fade resistance and wear it's unreal.
Wilwood really need to bring some newer compounds to the table.

I've heard this about thier pads from a few different people now but I hardly ever believe anything unless I experience it for myself.... I'm looking forward to the CT's.... and I'll hopefully be at an auto-x next Sunday... then a few weeks until LimeRock.

More car porn. I am done with the current pictures.;)

:smilielol5: I'll get you a few in the next couple days.... I spent about 13 hrs yesterday working on the Landi..... le sigh..... next day off is going to be a rotary day damnitalltohellmotherfucker!

MaczPayne
05-26-2011, 11:48 PM
I'm running the oem prop valve, which has been working excellent so far! We calculated that bias would shift to the rear 3%, which was acceptable since FC's were biased more than needed to the front anyway :)

The Carbotechs are really great pads, they're also on my to-try list. Glenn got me interested in them too :) Where's the best place to buy them?

And yeah, I remember taking my car out to an auto-x with the hp+ for the first time... tiresmoke everywhere, I was lucky not to get any flat spots on the tires! Now I'm used to them, especially with even stickier tires hehe

TitaniumTT
05-27-2011, 08:55 AM
I'm running the oem prop valve, which has been working excellent so far! We calculated that bias would shift to the rear 3%, which was acceptable since FC's were biased more than needed to the front anyway :)

Yeah.... WAY too much front bias. I understand the reason for it, but damn it you're giving up a braking distance..... do want more rear braking powa, which is why I did XP's on both axles

The Carbotechs are really great pads, they're also on my to-try list. Glenn got me interested in them too :) Where's the best place to buy them?

From the research I did, they're price fixed. I bought them direct from CT

And yeah, I remember taking my car out to an auto-x with the hp+ for the first time... tiresmoke everywhere, I was lucky not to get any flat spots on the tires! Now I'm used to them, especially with even stickier tires hehe

I'm in need of stickier tires..... tires that I should tow with me to the track and then put them on.... but I still need to biuld a trailer for that :suspect:

hades
05-27-2011, 09:29 AM
Yeah.... WAY too much front bias. I understand the reason for it, but damn it you're giving up a braking distance..... do want more rear braking powa, which is why I did XP's on both axles



From the research I did, they're price fixed. I bought them direct from CT



I'm in need of stickier tires..... tires that I should tow with me to the track and then put them on.... but I still need to biuld a trailer for that :suspect:

your gonna put a hitch on the 7? :rofl:

tweiss3
05-27-2011, 09:33 AM
Hey, if you now of a hitch for 7's, i wana know where to get one, im looking for one for my bike rack

TitaniumTT
05-27-2011, 09:38 AM
your gonna put a hitch on the 7? :rofl:

Yup.... gotta problem with that? Already got the trailer. It was originally for a 13' Boston Whaler. Going to cut the shit out of it and shorten it, it will carry 4 tires, and a full width box for tools, compressor, jack, chairs, cooler, and a spare battery.

It's not like I don't have the torque to tow :rofl:

TitaniumTT
05-27-2011, 09:39 AM
Hey, if you now of a hitch for 7's, i wana know where to get one, im looking for one for my bike rack

Not a chance, gonna build one myself.

tweiss3
05-27-2011, 09:46 AM
Dammit.

Any idea on your build cost?

Prodigy
05-27-2011, 02:31 PM
I think We should all pitch in and convine the all the other Mods to Ban TTT until he posts up higher quality and more pictures of that sexiness that is his time/money pit...

edit. I'm in the process of going through entire thread and saving all the pictures..


J.

TitaniumTT
05-27-2011, 03:25 PM
Dammit.

Any idea on your build cost?

Does "a lot" count as an answer?

TitaniumTT
05-27-2011, 03:33 PM
I think We should all pitch in and convine the all the other Mods to Ban TTT until he posts up higher quality and more pictures of that sexiness that is his time/money pit...

edit. I'm in the process of going through entire thread and saving all the pictures..


J.

Couple things wrong with your plan. If I'm banned, how am I gonna post pics? More importantly, mods can't ban Admins ;)

2gslse
05-27-2011, 03:51 PM
your gonna put a hitch on the 7? :rofl:

He says its for tires/tools but I know its for Bill's FC :smilielol5:

Prodigy
05-27-2011, 03:59 PM
Couple things wrong with your plan. If I'm banned, how am I gonna post pics? More importantly, mods can't ban Admins ;)

Touche... lol

you would think after not working all today I would be on the ball, but it seems not...

i've gone through 1/2 of this thread already, and i'm just curious if you have another thread somewhere with some build pics, as say, not the awesome job you have done with all the wiring and such, but the build of the RE and anything related :P


J.

mazpower
05-27-2011, 05:18 PM
The XP8's are so far above BP20's in terms of outright power, bite, modulation, fade resistance and wear it's unreal.
Wilwood really need to bring some newer compounds to the table.

So true! I love my Miata's Wilwood big brake kit but the pads suck compared to the Carbotechs I've been spoiled with.

The Carbotechs are really great pads, they're also on my to-try list. Glenn got me interested in them too :) Where's the best place to buy them?

I'm trying to get set up to resell them. I'm setting up an online store, I should be able to get them for you soon should you want to go through me. :)

tweiss3
05-27-2011, 05:31 PM
I meant for the hitch build

TitaniumTT
05-27-2011, 06:30 PM
He says its for tires/tools but I know its for Bill's FC :smilielol5:

Well, we've got to get it to DGRR somehow.... it'll never make it there on its own power, the renni doesn't have the balls, and the gm will die 1/4 of the way down

TitaniumTT
05-27-2011, 07:21 PM
Touche... lol

you would think after not working all today I would be on the ball, but it seems not...

i've gone through 1/2 of this thread already, and i'm just curious if you have another thread somewhere with some build pics, as say, not the awesome job you have done with all the wiring and such, but the build of the RE and anything related :P


J.

I've got the '09 build thread that covered the engine rebuild.... there should be some goodies in there on the RE and her internals

TitaniumTT
05-27-2011, 07:22 PM
So true! I love my Miata's Wilwood big brake kit but the pads suck compared to the Carbotechs I've been spoiled with.



I'm trying to get set up to resell them. I'm setting up an online store, I should be able to get them for you soon should you want to go through me. :)
That will be bitchin when it happens!

TitaniumTT
05-27-2011, 07:36 PM
I meant for the hitch build

So did I :rofl: prob in the $4-500 range

tweiss3
05-27-2011, 08:36 PM
why the hell would it be in the 4-500 dollar range for fabricating a trailer hitch?

TitaniumTT
05-27-2011, 09:32 PM
That would be cutting you a deal biotch! I bill out at least $75/hr

hades
05-27-2011, 11:59 PM
I thought you meant you needed to build a trailer for the jeep to pull the 7 with a rack for tires. Guess not....:smilielol5:

hades
05-28-2011, 12:00 AM
oh - and what ever trailer you make should be able to go off road when GRASS!! appears.

TitaniumTT
05-28-2011, 06:33 AM
oh - and what ever trailer you make should be able to go off road when GRASS!! appears.

haahahaahahahahaaaa






:ack2:


I thought you meant you needed to build a trailer for the jeep to pull the 7 with a rack for tires. Guess not....:smilielol5:

I was thinking about it, but that would cost a ton of coin. I keep looking for car trailers, and if I can find one for about a grand I'd pick it up and put a tire rack on it, but they always seem to go for more than that. I really don't like abusing my truck like that. She's still got a stock clutch and stock brakes. The stock clutch has about 163k on it so I don't want to really press my luck. The whole trailer and car would weigh in excess of 5k lbs, where a little auto-x trailer would weigh....maybe 500lbs?

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b233/docwyte/IMG_1264_2_1.jpg

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/65342662_4qoQv-S.jpg






Here's a custom hitch for an RX8.... guy claims it took him TWENTY-FIVE hours start to finish on this hitch.....

http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/52717396_Dre9N-S.jpg
http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/53838742_sMzxF-S.jpg
http://vorshlag.smugmug.com/photos/53524323_vp8CQ-S.jpg

hades
05-28-2011, 10:37 AM
wow. 25 hours. sounds like one of my suppliers trying to pull a fast one. :smilielol5: