Diary of a Madman; TitaniumTT's see you @ DGRRXI RE-REbuild [Archive] - Page 2

TitaniumTT

03-27-2010, 02:02 PM

lol... i try and try to follow this thread but if i miss even ONE day of check up on it there are already like 7 more pages added... and then i have to read alot.....hahaha

:smilielol5: Just wait a few more days till I get this winter job out of the way, parts galore come in Monday, tranny and rear tuesday etc etc... Next week will be FILLED with updates, hopefully daily. Heading there right now actually to get some more wiring done...... after I spent the morning doing marine wiring, it's off to do automotive wiring.... it never ends!

I would tend to believe the iunductives will do better in this case also. Although a different coil, my inductive setup on the TECgt is monstrously powerful. I can't quantify it due to the lack of back to back's, but in comparison to other systems I've ran including two jacobs leading coils and seperate jacob's amps on each (can you say welding arc?) this system stacks up well. I am inclined to think the level that inductive's would run out of steam on is probably quite high. Super anxious to see the results of this setup though.

I heart M&W btw :)

Oh, and who did the plug wires??

I agree with you Joe. Unless there's TONS of meth and boost to the point where an inductive doesn't have the energy to spark, I think inductives will do much better for a rotary. But we'll see. The FD will most likely see alot more boost and meth as well so I suspect I'll be repeating the test with the winning coil vs the winning CDI.

I love some M&W as well, I'm curious, I hope I don't hurt any feelings ;)

The pulg wires were built by the engineer @ MoTeC that owns the equipment. I've got at least one more order to place with them before this car is done, so what I plan to do is order ~20' of that wire, and all new boots and terminals as well and all new plug wires using the same wire for each. This way someone that sells says the D585's in a kit can't claim that it was the wires that caused those coils to come in where they did, if that happens to be the case.

Where the Hell is Bill BTW???? I need coils from him.

Aight rotards, off to dive into some more TC/chassis/PD wiring.....:banghead:

djmtsu

03-27-2010, 08:08 PM

You guys are nuts.

I don't have a tenth of the ambition (or $$$) to do this much work, in this amount of time.

I did polish the headlights on the RX-8 today :)

If I blow up this POS at DGRR, you guys have to rebuild it......I will be timing you.

eppo37

03-27-2010, 10:41 PM

If I blow up this POS at DGRR, you guys have to rebuild it......I will be timing you.

And if you take too long, you get one of these :icon_no2:

TitaniumTT

03-27-2010, 11:04 PM

Lets not forget that one saturday I went to Daves for some Dyno tuning, did a comp test first, found a sticky corner seal. Went home, partied my ass off, recovered sunday starting working on the car Monday night after work and the next saturday was back on the dyno...... tough week but it was done ;)

helghast7

03-27-2010, 11:12 PM

lmao!!

helghast7

03-27-2010, 11:15 PM

you know....now that the cars pretty much done....i find...im really bored!!!!

i think im either going to start working on my FC, which will soon be my brothers...so you know hes gona be helping

or looking for another rotary car to use as an all out track project

eppo37

03-28-2010, 01:14 AM

:117: HEY EVERYONE, LISTEN UP! Helghast7 just said he's got money to burn and wants a roller. Be the first to PM him an offer.....

helghast7

03-28-2010, 02:05 AM

lol it was speculation, i didnt say i was ready for one quite yet..though i guess i did write it like that huh??...it depends on how crazy my brother wants to go with the ol' FC

but besides that my plans for that next car arent finished yet, and i usually have a base plan to go by before i start any new projects or else things wont ever get done

but when i say all out track car i mean crazy all out...like.....nahh cant say..its top secret :)

eppo37

03-28-2010, 04:44 AM

nahh cant say..its top secret :)

Not to worry, I have 1 genuine government issued SECRET clearance. I speak secret squirrel. :001_302:

helghast7

03-28-2010, 06:47 PM

lmao!!! oh now we cant have that, havent you heard? skunks cracked the code, we moved onto chipmunk

TitaniumTT

03-30-2010, 12:32 AM

:smilielol5:

If you're gonna do a track car, do something cheap, like a Miata, and then have us put a 13B in it :suspect:

UPDATE: Wiring takes WAY TOO FUCKING LONG TO DO IT RIGHT! And it NEVER comes out as clean as I want it too..... that annoys me.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7683&stc=1&d=1269927280

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7684&stc=1&d=1269927280

More Updates - Got a delivery from Paul Yaw today :D

5450cc's of fuel flow, yes, two ID725's and two ID2000's

Also got the top secret Bosch coils in as well... Cannot wait to get these parts on the rig. My only regret is that my custom 2ndary fuel rail won't be done in time. Oh well, over the summer I guess. It won't help any with flow, but it will look atlot better and keep the plumbing a bit neater as well. Awesomeness to come.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7685&stc=1&d=1269927280

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=7686&stc=1&d=1269927280

Oh yeah, there's a planned allnighter either Friday or saturday just to try to stay ahead of it all. Getting down to the wire and she don't even role yet.

helghast7

03-30-2010, 01:26 AM

miatas to easy :)

i enjoy the difficult stuff, plus i love the platform ive been working with thus far

besides, everyone and there mother tracks a miata

dont you worry, when im ready and start to get the ball rolling you know your going to get calls from me about welding parts

i just hope your ready to deal with all the custom things im planning ;)

BigIslandSevens

03-31-2010, 07:41 AM

All the talk of race cars I figured I would corrupt your thread with my new project. Sorry!! Just picked it up last Saturday. Long term( 3-5 yr) track car project. Building what I consider the "ultimate track FD". 93' SS touring or base model to start life. I am throwing it on the frame rack to check everything out and fix if needed. Then it comes back for a loong rest while I aquire a seat and steering column and rack in preperation for a mac-daddy cage. Mean time I will be removing sound deadner with Dry ice and a BFH!

Here are some cramped garage shots of the new 7. It came with no hood,front or rear bumper, and broken hatch glass. NOTHING on the inside. Damage to the passenger side in front of the rear tire. Possible frame damage but not bad IMO. Nothing a pro can't fix. The car was getting picked up by a scrap metal yard and I "saved" it. 1 mans junk is another mans treasure.

The best part was how much.. I guess with trailor rental and the 20 bucks for the front fenders I paid...$75.00, for the entire thing!!( It was actually free, but we all know there are NO free puppies)!

http://i40.tinypic.com/30wnqc1.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/4ggmpy.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/21cwhp0.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/20uwlrm.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/ven59x.jpg
and the damaged side: he hit a "mailbox"
http://i43.tinypic.com/ja9poy.jpg
http://i43.tinypic.com/m7f7r5.jpg

TitaniumTT

03-31-2010, 08:15 AM

That is an AWESOME find man... congrats.... now THAT is the perfect candidate for race car.... if you're lurking Alex, take note.... perfect race car candidate, mine is the perfect resto candidate.

Really nice find. What are the plans for powa?

Whizbang

03-31-2010, 08:59 AM

This alex (me) or another alex?

TitaniumTT

03-31-2010, 09:09 AM

Business partner Alex ;) (How've you been? don't see ya around much.) When I got back from NC with my new FD still on the trailer, first thing he says is, "I know you're going to veto me, but this is the perfect race car candidate." I highly disagree.

Whizbang

03-31-2010, 09:11 AM

I need an FD roller than i can have sit in the garage for me to stare at.

BigIslandSevens

03-31-2010, 10:34 AM

My long term engine plans are a N/A 20B with ITB's. But that is at least 5 years away. Mean time it will be a REW based single or stock twins. I want around 300-400 RWHP out of the REW and 350-4 from the 20B when it is done. That in itself is a whole monster build on its own.

First thing to do is the frame rack. Then the treasure hunt is on for parts:D I am going to run mainly Time trials and have had a long burning desire to run the Targa New Foundland road rally. So A passenger seat will be built into the cage design.

And yeah , this is the perfect track canidate, I can buy a running street FD for less than it would cost to piece it back together.

classicauto

03-31-2010, 10:42 AM

have had a long burning desire to run the targa new foundland road rally

yes!!

Whizbang

03-31-2010, 11:40 AM

i would do the targe newfoundland if this was listed on the applicated

"$ 4995 + tax"

pikes peak is only like 1250 if you register really early.

helghast7

04-04-2010, 08:03 PM

argh!!! darn Dave...im shitting bricks

any updates Brian?

TitaniumTT

04-04-2010, 10:35 PM

I would say poor Dave, not darn Dave, saw him Wednesday I think?

Update, car still doesn't roll and after 3 redbulls, 2 Monster Java's, a pack of smokes and a 3 hour stint we got the LS in Alex's car, tranny, driveshaft and most of the wiring done in his car. Virtually all the wiring in my car is done in the interior. Very minor things to done from the firewall forward as far as wiring is concerned, still haven't put a damn thing on the car from the firewall forward. Re-wired basically the entire car. It's fucking sweet, just hope it works

Got my tranny, need to paint it and build a mount
Still need to build a fuel cell - those are the two big things. Other than that I need 2 days, one for the interior and to finish up the wiring, the other to do the mechanical, and somewhere in between that and finishing helping painting Alex's panels, build a fuel cell.

helghast7

04-04-2010, 10:47 PM

well i look it in two ways, poor Dave because the inspectors are giving him hell over stupid bull crap, but with a touch of darn Dave for doing the move right before the big meet

if we had to look at a ratio its 99.9% poor/ .1% darn

its mostly me getting nervous as all hell, to the point were im debating wether to find a dyno i can rent for a day and have Dave tune 1 or 2 of us there lol

regardless, clocks ticking and the closer it gets the more i dread the thought of driving to NC on a base map

as for your car, whats your expected date of completion? or your still unsure?

did i ever mention that you should buy stock in energy drink companies? lol

TitaniumTT

04-05-2010, 12:59 AM

Ya know, Dave was planning on attending DGRRX but had to cancel.

If you do decide to get a dyno for the day, lemme know, i may join. Right now I'm planning on just cruising around CT for a few nights and doing some on rd tuning to .78L... nice and safe.

As for completion date.. well, we're leaving on Thursday morning @ 6 am, so 5:47 she should be done :rofl:

Whhen are you guys leaving/caravaning?

helghast7

04-05-2010, 02:53 PM

yea i know, i talked to him about it, was looking forward to him coming along, its a bummer he cant make it

yea ill let you no if we do...im just kind of winging it...which i dont usually mind doing...but not for something like a tune

and we actually have two groups, first one wich is the bigger of the two is leaving wed night at about 9pm, second group is leaving thursday morning, but i dont no what time there leaving

TitaniumTT

04-05-2010, 07:33 PM

I'm planning on stopping @ Dave's Thursday morning @ 8:30ish to try one more time to convince him.

Lemme know on the caravan/tuning, I'd love to know. Right now we're about 7 cars strong

Have you changed much with the car since the last tune? PFC right? Do you have the interface? We MIGHT be able to toy a little with it on the way down/when we get there if she's running a little lean. Fresh/tight motors tend to do that. Maybe a global change richening her up a little by bumping the fuel pressure is all you need to gbet into that overly safe zone.

There's such a difference between street/dyno tuning it's laughable, it really is. At least with the MoTeC the difference between street driving and a chassis dyno is big especially with boost control

helghast7

04-05-2010, 09:42 PM

yea i have the pfc, and dave gave me a base map after i got the engine back to compensate for all the mods i did

im actually going on friday with benny to pick up his car, so im gona talk to him about deals and maybe have him adjust my tune a bit so i wont have to constantly drive like a sissy...even if it does kill me a little bit more then usual on gas lol, and have him give her the once over to make sure i didnt do anything dumb haha

as for the caravans, wednsday night is looking like 6-8 cars and thursday morning will probably be around 3-5 cars

and now that i think about it.....weres the stickers!?! lol lol

TitaniumTT

04-05-2010, 10:40 PM

Friday you say...... I'll let you know Thursday night if I can head out with ya.... really doubt it though :cuss::icon_no2:

Lemme know about the Thursday caravan, would be pretty bitchin. Whoe's in the 3-5 on Thurs. Last I heard, Dennis was heading down on Wed. Do you know Omar, Benny, and Bancocks plans or should I just buzz 'em?

Depending on what mods you did, the map you had might be ok for cruise, but could be WAY off for higher load sites. It all depends on what ya did. Sucks about Dave's dyno, sucks having to wait months for parts, my original plan was to be on Dave's dyno on 4/3, That day has come and gone and I still don't have a roller. As scary as it is, the FD is closer to being assembled than the FC :smilielol5:

Ordered them today actually ;)

helghast7

04-06-2010, 02:07 AM

Friday you say...... I'll let you know Thursday night if I can head out with ya.... really doubt it though :cuss::icon_no2:

cool man let me know, we were intending on heading out early, benny said he wants to leave at like 8 ughhh i hate mornings..lol oh well

Lemme know about the Thursday caravan, would be pretty bitchin. Whoe's in the 3-5 on Thurs. Last I heard, Dennis was heading down on Wed. Do you know Omar, Benny, and Bancocks plans or should I just buzz 'em?

benny i believe is doing wed, omar is supposedly heading out a couple days in advance..has family down there or something, im not really sure what bancocks doing...rumor has it he might bail last second...he was having some engine troubles recently...clogged fuel pump filter..bag..strainer...thingy....words just not coming to me at this time lol, as for me im undecided what time to leave....i was thinking wed...but if your gona go thursday i might do that...idk, were gona talk tomorrow night about it, ill fill you in when i no

by the way...were are you sleeping anyways?

Depending on what mods you did, the map you had might be ok for cruise, but could be WAY off for higher load sites. It all depends on what ya did. Sucks about Dave's dyno, sucks having to wait months for parts, my original plan was to be on Dave's dyno on 4/3, That day has come and gone and I still don't have a roller. As scary as it is, the FD is closer to being assembled than the FC :smilielol5:

yea exactly, his instructions were for me to drive it partial throttle, 5k rpm max, mild boost....then change the oil at 500 miles and come in for a tune

well it obviously cant go like that now lol :) which is why im hoping he can at least adjust it so i can have a little more freedom

what sucks about the pfc is, without the tuning software, im limited to how much adjustments i can do with my map, i cant alter the curve i can only richen or lean it as a whole

you know...i think the funniest thing about all this is....we all swore we wouldnt cut it this close like last year...yet here we are again....a week and a day or 2 away...and things still arent done.. lmao just gotta laugh at that

Ordered them today actually ;)

awesome! cant wait to see them :001_005:

TitaniumTT

04-07-2010, 01:46 AM

cool man let me know, we were intending on heading out early, benny said he wants to leave at like 8 ughhh i hate mornings..lol oh well

Fuck mornings.... yeah, so the car ain't gonna be ready for friday

benny i believe is doing wed, omar is supposedly heading out a couple days in advance..has family down there or something, im not really sure what bancocks doing...rumor has it he might bail last second...he was having some engine troubles recently...clogged fuel pump filter..bag..strainer...thingy....words just not coming to me at this time lol, as for me im undecided what time to leave....i was thinking wed...but if your gona go thursday i might do that...idk, were gona talk tomorrow night about it, ill fill you in when i no

Please do. The more the merrier.

by the way...were are you sleeping anyways?

A few forum members were kind enough to hook me up with a bed, or couch, or floor on thursday night. Friday and saturday we have a cabin at the villiage. Same crew that I was with last year for the most part. Complete with drunken slobs passing out and falling off couches and little aisans trying to sleep in the closet :rofl: I can't wait!!

yea exactly, his instructions were for me to drive it partial throttle, 5k rpm max, mild boost....then change the oil at 500 miles and come in for a tune

well it obviously cant go like that now lol :) which is why im hoping he can at least adjust it so i can have a little more freedom

what sucks about the pfc is, without the tuning software, im limited to how much adjustments i can do with my map, i cant alter the curve i can only richen or lean it as a whole

If he can, he'll be able to do something on Friday for you, even if it's a global change just to keep it really safe. That's about where I'm at. I'll be popping the laptop at EVERY gas stop, I can see it now!:rofl:

you know...i think the funniest thing about all this is....we all swore we wouldnt cut it this close like last year...yet here we are again....a week and a day or 2 away...and things still arent done.. lmao just gotta laugh at that

awesome! cant wait to see them :001_005:

Yeah, I did that last year too, never again I swore. It's going to be even tighter this year too which is just BAD. I may actually have to take an extra day off from work next week just to make it down there. It's going to be TIGHT. I was hoping to have all these updates daily and I'm just not getting enough done.... I painted my tranny today and figured out my neutral safety switch.... WOW!!!! Fucker still doesn't roll, still don't have a rear speed signal, tranny mount... etc etc et... it's just bad.

helghast7

04-09-2010, 02:33 AM

ok as of right now, things have been adjusted, it appears the thursday morning group fell apart, so now its only wed night and thursday night

and i cant be leaving on thursday night since the cabin is under my name lol so it looks like ill be headin down wed

spoke to dave any? i called him a couple times, he hasnt returned any of my calls

TitaniumTT

04-09-2010, 08:58 AM

That's a bummer, oh well, I think our Thursday caravan will be 4 cars and one bike :D

Last time I spoke to Dave, he still didn't have phones at his new shop, so he was stopping by the old to check msg's every night. Best is e-mail, he always get's ya back with that. I know there was some looming deadline for getting out of the old shop becuase it was re-rented, I know that's going to effect communication. I feel bad, I wish there was something that I could do to help him out.

helghast7

04-09-2010, 09:01 AM

yea definetly, transitions suck no matter how you look at it, i just hope things go nice and smooth once everything is settled

Force13b

04-12-2010, 03:18 PM

Hope you got everything done on time for this weekend there Bri. Good thing they got that rock slide cleared out. Have fun!

TitaniumTT

04-13-2010, 10:26 AM

Hey Tyler, nope, car isn't done yet. Not even close actually. I'm starting to get a little worried. I'll hit the panic button Wed around noon, and the Abort button friday night around 6pm. Took the day off from work, heading out there now. Pulled 40hrs strait yesterday. Getting close to my record, I may have to beat it this year ;)

Dude - you have no idea how many RedBull, Monster, Mt Dew empties there are. It's appraoching ~30gal!

Whizbang

04-13-2010, 10:29 AM

do work son

helghast7

04-13-2010, 06:01 PM

darn brian, it would suck to see you do all that work and not bring it to deals :(

2gslse

04-13-2010, 09:31 PM

I think Brian is gonna make a new record and get to DGRR. I went to the store and the redbull was all gone and the clerk said something about a massive emergency shipment to Ct. I can only assume its Brian :)

WE3RX7

04-14-2010, 06:05 AM

I have the original copies of the pics taken from Brian cleaning his car out at last year DGRR before they were edited and some shots of his new corporate sponsorship...

Sorry, got bored at 6am this morning waiting on files to download....

88turboii

04-14-2010, 04:45 PM

we need some live webcam action for the next two days haha

N.RotaryTech

04-14-2010, 05:06 PM

^that would be cool. lol.

EJayCe996

04-14-2010, 10:25 PM

Sooooo.....I go on vacation to NY for a week and you got nothing done?

I am so very disappoint......:302:

Turbo II Rotor

04-15-2010, 10:46 AM

Brian, give me a call today. I'm gonna be leaving late tonight, get a couple hours on the road, sleep in my car and continue on in the morning. If you're able to get on the road by ~ 2am tonight you can probably pull in, wake me up and we'll caravan the rest of the way.

I couldn't take my bike down cause I'm waiting on parts so I'm renting a car.

Force13b

04-15-2010, 07:26 PM

Max777

04-15-2010, 10:13 PM

so, did you get it done yet?

Force13b

04-16-2010, 10:22 AM

I'm sure he did Brian's crazy

TitaniumTT

04-17-2010, 06:38 PM

darn brian, it would suck to see you do all that work and not bring it to deals :(

Yeah it did, and it sucks, been txt'ing with a bunch of folks down there all day. I'm sooooooo bummed and I thought about driving the jeep down but figured it was suicide. I went 46hrs striat, slept for 90 minutes and got back to work, 6 hrs later I called the car DOA and thought that if I attempted to drive 14 hrs, there's no way I would've made it. Oh well...... next year I guess. But next yr I'll be doing it all over again with the FD :rofl:

I think Brian is gonna make a new record and get to DGRR. I went to the store and the redbull was all gone and the clerk said something about a massive emergency shipment to Ct. I can only assume its Brian :)

:smilielol5: DUDE!!!! You have no idea.... over the course of a week I cleaned out the local CVS of the big cans so I started buying the medium ones in pairs. As of yesterday morning, those were a little low too :rofl: I'm immune to RedBull now. I'm going to need to go out and start scoring coke

TitaniumTT

04-17-2010, 06:43 PM

we need some live webcam action for the next two days haha

^that would be cool. lol.

It would've made for some comic moments.... like the time my pass side can went on and off 3 times. Or the time I lit my arm on fire..... or when I started dry humping the 6spd or the new interior leathers...

Sooooo.....I go on vacation to NY for a week and you got nothing done?

I am so very disappoint......:302:

Yeah, me too.

Brian, give me a call today. I'm gonna be leaving late tonight, get a couple hours on the road, sleep in my car and continue on in the morning. If you're able to get on the road by ~ 2am tonight you can probably pull in, wake me up and we'll caravan the rest of the way.

I couldn't take my bike down cause I'm waiting on parts so I'm renting a car.

Sorry Scott. What happened though? I sent you a txt and got nothing back. I should've said fuck the car and riden down with you instead. I still would've loved to have gone even without the car, but I waited too long to make the call and had zero energy left.

Ever sleep for 18 hrs? I did. Went to sleep ~4pm on friday and woke up a little after 10am Saturday..... WOW!

TitaniumTT

04-17-2010, 06:59 PM

so, did you get it done yet?

I'm sure he did Brian's crazy

You have no idea Tyler. After I spent WAY too much time dicking around with the wiring, the TC, and the fuel cell (which I never finished either) I started working like a motherfucker. Worked ~40 hrs strait before I passed out.... literally curling up in the passenger seat. It was cold so I took my flannel lined car cover and wrapped myself in that for a little 6 hour nap before I went about 46 hrs strait as well. In the end there were a few little things that kicked my ass.
For example.... went to start the car for the first time and had no power to anything that I wired up. Factory shit was all fine but nothing I wired was working. WTF? So I started at the battery and worked forward. Oddly enough the main relay wasn't getting a turn on signal..... :scratch: OK.... hit the schematic and found out that the IG2 circuit passes through the fuse blocks power window circuit. Odd... whatever... I added my own powerwindow circuit so I pulled the factory's fuse. Once I figured that out, popped a fuse in and all was well.
Then there were a few gauges not working properly. Traced that to a gnd that accidentally got wrapped into the front harness. Cool, gnd that and viola. Then she wouldn't start. Not surprising with all the changes that I made. Namely injectors and coils. Now, the MoTeC is just plain awesome. You can adjust the IJPU to suit different injectors. So, theoretically if you go from a 1000cc to a 2000cc injector, you can cut the IJPU in half, and the tuning won't change IFF the injectors are linear in thier delivery. I went with a set of ID725 and ID2000's up from the 750/1000 POS delphi basically propane injectors. I changed the IJPU to suit and she wouldn't even start. I toyed with the map slightly and got her to stumble but it hit me that the entire map was now going to be fucked becuase I was going from a very non-linear injector to a perfectly linear injector. If I post a screen shot of my map compared to a map of a car running ID's, you'll see what I mean.
Then I discovered a small fuel leak, didn't look to far into it because at this point it's like 2pm on Friday and I also found a fairly frozen FR brake caliper. It was just too much. What I should've done was focus more on my car and less on others at the end of March. Oh well, next year.... and I'm sure a bunch in between. Gives me more reason to have the FC shipped to CA for 7stock though ;)

vex

04-17-2010, 08:47 PM

Damnit B! Stop using my name when referencing other people with the same name! It's confusing!

Don't worry I'm in the same boat as you, though I guess this means you can have time for our "special" project ;)

SouthSideSlider

04-18-2010, 10:35 AM

i'm slightly better off i wasn't even in denial that my car would be ready. if its ready for next years i'll be suprized.

WE3RX7

04-19-2010, 06:57 AM

Better that you stayed home then drive all those hours on no sleep only to be stuck at the lodge and not enjoying the drive. Look forward to seeing it soon though! Get some pics up when you can, but get some sleep first!

djmtsu

04-19-2010, 07:02 AM

Ahem.....

2gslse

04-19-2010, 03:15 PM

sorry you didn't make it down it was like motel 6 we left the light on for ya just in case you were gonna surprise everyone by showing up in a FB or something. BTW its time to change the thread title again

Force13b

04-19-2010, 04:02 PM

You have no idea Tyler. After I spent WAY too much time dicking around with the wiring, the TC, and the fuel cell (which I never finished either) I started working like a motherfucker. Worked ~40 hrs strait before I passed out.... literally curling up in the passenger seat. It was cold so I took my flannel lined car cover and wrapped myself in that for a little 6 hour nap before I went about 46 hrs strait as well. In the end there were a few little things that kicked my ass.
For example.... went to start the car for the first time and had no power to anything that I wired up. Factory shit was all fine but nothing I wired was working. WTF? So I started at the battery and worked forward. Oddly enough the main relay wasn't getting a turn on signal..... :scratch: OK.... hit the schematic and found out that the IG2 circuit passes through the fuse blocks power window circuit. Odd... whatever... I added my own powerwindow circuit so I pulled the factory's fuse. Once I figured that out, popped a fuse in and all was well.
Then there were a few gauges not working properly. Traced that to a gnd that accidentally got wrapped into the front harness. Cool, gnd that and viola. Then she wouldn't start. Not surprising with all the changes that I made. Namely injectors and coils. Now, the MoTeC is just plain awesome. You can adjust the IJPU to suit different injectors. So, theoretically if you go from a 1000cc to a 2000cc injector, you can cut the IJPU in half, and the tuning won't change IFF the injectors are linear in thier delivery. I went with a set of ID725 and ID2000's up from the 750/1000 POS delphi basically propane injectors. I changed the IJPU to suit and she wouldn't even start. I toyed with the map slightly and got her to stumble but it hit me that the entire map was now going to be fucked becuase I was going from a very non-linear injector to a perfectly linear injector. If I post a screen shot of my map compared to a map of a car running ID's, you'll see what I mean.
Then I discovered a small fuel leak, didn't look to far into it because at this point it's like 2pm on Friday and I also found a fairly frozen FR brake caliper. It was just too much. What I should've done was focus more on my car and less on others at the end of March. Oh well, next year.... and I'm sure a bunch in between. Gives me more reason to have the FC shipped to CA for 7stock though ;)

That sucks balls! Well at least you'll have the FD there next year when i'm planning to be there. ;)

How many dudes can you fit in a FC? I think we should find out! I'm saying we can get 8 in there. 1 working gas, bake, clutch and shifting. 1 steering in your lap. 2 in passenger seat. And 2 stacked on top of each other side by side in the back. :rofl:

TitaniumTT

04-19-2010, 04:26 PM

i'm slightly better off i wasn't even in denial that my car would be ready. if its ready for next years i'll be suprized.

yeah..... NO

Better that you stayed home then drive all those hours on no sleep only to be stuck at the lodge and not enjoying the drive. Look forward to seeing it soon though! Get some pics up when you can, but get some sleep first!

Meh, I would've enjoyed the event without a doubt. You're right though, getting down there would've been sketchy at best. I was supposed to caravcan down with David from Nova Scotia but he wisely decided to leave before me. Alex bailed so I would've been driving it alone. I would've left around 6pm, gotten into the villiage around 8am. Instead I went to sleep around 4pm and woke up 18 hours later:icon_tup:

I'll get some pics up for sure. Right now I've got a few other priorities that need attention. I plan to get some work done to her this weekend and maybe by 5/1 have her up and running. We'll have to hook up at Daves again for that dyno coil torture test, and I'll prob be swinging through as I am going to attend Zoom-fest this year.

Ahem.....

Yeah, Sorry about that DJ. I meant to PM ya last night but was unsure when you'd be back. Shoot me your paypal addy and I'll hook ya up with what I owe you plus the fees. Sorry about that. THey look great though. I tinted them ;) They'll look sinister

sorry you didn't make it down it was like motel 6 we left the light on for ya just in case you were gonna surprise everyone by showing up in a FB or something. BTW its time to change the thread title again

:smilielol5: Thanks man. I shot Bill a PM at some point saying that I wasn't gonna make it that night. THen all hell broke loose as well. I'm so bummed. I really hope this fall DGRR thing comes to fruition... I'll SOOOO be there. i have no plans to take that car down to nothing and toss her on a rotisserie between now and 2011 :D
Are there any other local/non-local event's you're planning on hitting up? Zoom fest perhaps?

That sucks balls! Well at least you'll have the FD there next year when i'm planning to be there. ;)

:smilielol5: That's optimistic! I took on a few side jobs/restos/repairs over the summer so I don't know how much I'll be able to get accomplished on the FD. 2011 is pushing it, 2012 is more likely though.

How many dudes can you fit in a FC? I think we should find out! I'm saying we can get 8 in there. 1 working gas, bake, clutch and shifting. 1 steering in your lap. 2 in passenger seat. And 2 stacked on top of each other side by side in the back. :rofl:

I has no back, although the RX8 seats are pretty spacious ;) compfy enough to sleep in for 6 hours too

helghast7

04-19-2010, 05:10 PM

Force13b

04-20-2010, 11:08 AM

I has no back, although the RX8 seats are pretty spacious ;) compfy enough to sleep in for 6 hours too

I forgot you have a cage back there. We can jungle gym at least 2 people back there :lol:

TitaniumTT

04-20-2010, 05:36 PM

got some great footage for you to check out, plus some crazy stories of things that happened, plus i still need to swing by to get some work done

AND..now that i think about it...i owe you guys some parts...perhaps when i go to get my work done i can sucker someone into driving a big truck to drop it all off (cough* cough* my dad or mom cough* cough*) and we still need to talk of an actual deal, perhaps through pms :suspect: lol

Yeah man, I'd love to see some footage and hear some stories. I'm still pretty pissed I missed the whole thing. I'm gonna make sure the FC is in tiptop shape before she goes into hibernation so all I have to do is change the plugs, oil and gas and rock and roll. I'll spend the winter working the FD instead.

At least I have Zoom-Fest to look forward to and that All Mazda meet at OCC.... and about 2-dozen auto-x's and a handful of trackdays. Still going to drive through the dragon on the way to Zoom-Fest.

Hit me up with what you need done and we'll figure everything out.

I forgot you have a cage back there. We can jungle gym at least 2 people back there :lol:

maybe... maybe... I usually keep the transvestite midget hookers tied up to the x-brace in the proper position ;)

2gslse

04-21-2010, 07:42 PM

Hey Brian the rotary gods are pissed at you and since you spent half of the winter working on a V-8 powered 7 therefore there is no way they could allow you to make the deadline on your car. When are you going to Daves for tuning/torturing?

limbar85

04-21-2010, 09:10 PM

So what's the news on the wheel speed stuff. Sorry I fell off the radar for a couple weeks, I got killed with school and the formula car. If you still need me to do anything else, let me know.

TitaniumTT

04-21-2010, 10:35 PM

Hey Dave, I forgot to ask, how were those seats on the drive down?

Hey Brian the rotary gods are pissed at you and since you spent half of the winter working on a V-8 powered 7 therefore there is no way they could allow you to make the deadline on your car. When are you going to Daves for tuning/torturing?

pppppfttttt haahahaahahahaahaha :smilielol5::rofl:::lol::lol2::smilielol5:

Yeah, something like that. Worked kicked up, new jobs are coming in and my time is getting more and more scarce.... I'm gonna rock the hell outta this weekend, wake up saturday, work till sunday night. Sadly it won't all be on the car. i took a peak tonight and found, I hope, the fuel leak, I know what's going on with the wiring for the most part so squaring that away won't be all that bad, I'm hoping to have her running by the end of the weekend. We'll see.

As for Dave's, dunno, soon though. It's going to be a two part event though. One day tuning, then back for the coil torture testing. You wanna head up? What days work better for you? In the summer believe it or not, weekdays work better for me but I could arrange something on the weekend if ya wanna join:icon_tup:

So what's the news on the wheel speed stuff. Sorry I fell off the radar for a couple weeks, I got killed with school and the formula car. If you still need me to do anything else, let me know.

We're not talking about that :rofl: j/k... I got the fronts worked out. Two changes to the .DXF files and it'll work flawlessly. One change being to make it out of 5/16" not 1/4" Thanks again for all your help with that.

As for the rear, welllllllllllll, I have two solutions for that. One involves two seperate peice bolted together, the other is a plate with pressed in fingers. I need to make one work, grab some pics, and get back intouch with the waterjetter.

The fronts are ready to rock and roll.... want me to get a set out to you?

limbar85

04-21-2010, 11:53 PM

No need to get them yet. Lets get a finalized design and finished product before I receive anything.

TitaniumTT

04-22-2010, 03:46 PM

No worries. Fronts are done, it's just the rears. Need to decide if two plates bolted together is the way to go or one plate cut with holes every 15* to press in a roll pin is the way to go.

I'll update with some pics when I find my camera.

helghast7

04-22-2010, 04:01 PM

seats were awesome brian, they were as comfy as seats could possibly be for a 13 sraight our drive (with someone whos very fidgety lol) and they held me like a mom holds her baby on the dragon lol

as for our other discussion ill probably give you a call in a couple hours about it ;)

TitaniumTT

04-22-2010, 10:44 PM

Cool Dave, glad to hear it! I can't wait to toss myself around in the FC with those seats. I may have to figure out how to make the shoulder harnesses work with them for some of the auto-x's and track days...... especially if I head down to Zoomfest.

Gimme a shout whenever and we'll get it all sorted out ;)

helghast7

04-22-2010, 11:11 PM

ohh i do have on thing that might need to be modified on the seats that we can discuss when i come down, nothing major, just a little inconvenience that the seats cause because of there size

and yea definetly i was going to call you umm, yesterday i guess..since its now friday....but i didnt want to try and set up a day and time when i didnt have my schedule sorted out since i have a plan on how to get those parts to you

2gslse

04-27-2010, 09:09 PM

helghast7

04-28-2010, 12:07 AM

im still trying to figure out when is a good day...thinking maybe saturday afternoon or maybe sunday...if thats cool, hows things looking on your end?

TitaniumTT

04-28-2010, 06:02 PM

As for Dave's, dunno, soon though. It's going to be a two part event though. One day tuning, then back for the coil torture testing. You wanna head up? What days work better for you? In the summer believe it or not, weekdays work better for me but I could arrange something on the weekend if ya wanna join:icon_tup:

I don't know how my schedule will work out so just post up here when you get set up and if I can make it I'll let ya know.

Sounds like a plan to me. Dyno should be up and running before I am. I'm hoping to be able to blast out there on my next day off..... I just don't know when that's going to be.

im still trying to figure out when is a good day...thinking maybe saturday afternoon or maybe sunday...if thats cool, hows things looking on your end?

Hey Dave, not entirely sure. We've been jamming at work close to 12 hrs a day for the last two weeks, waterfront opens on Saturday and I'm sure I'll be there. I'm not sure when my next day off is going to be or even what my expected hours are going to be over the weekend. I'll let you know as soon as I do. I'll give you a shout in a bit, sorry I missed your call... gotta go jam for a seatrial now so maybe, just maybe I can get this boat outta my life on Saturday morning.

helghast7

04-28-2010, 07:30 PM

really? whens the last time you spoke to dave, last i heard the dyno was going to be fully operational the wed before DGRR, ive been talking with Dave about a tune and hes never said it wasnt up yet, so i would assume its working

MaczPayne

05-05-2010, 11:07 PM

Sevenstock, yes!

project86

05-07-2010, 07:24 PM

Sevenstock, yes!

i was gonna go to sevenstock this year.....:o10:

TitaniumTT

05-07-2010, 09:19 PM

It's a very real possibility :D

PM me if you want me to help you out with that last item on your list ;)

project86

05-07-2010, 10:17 PM

^^and pm away!

limbar85

05-19-2010, 06:25 PM

Where the hell are our wheel speed setup pics Brian!?

helghast7

05-19-2010, 06:57 PM

hes been super busy, hasnt even gotten a chance to really work on his car

TitaniumTT

05-20-2010, 12:33 AM

Where the hell are our wheel speed setup pics Brian!?

Sorry Michan.... I've had 'em, but didn't get my camera back until I had the FC flatbedded back to my place on Sunday. Here they are for the front. Rears need to be totally redesigned. I built a set from some flat 1/4" AL cut and drilled tapped but I'm going to get the original design adapted to work. I'll get some pics of that when I install the plates that I made.

Anyway, here they are, if you want a set for the front now, lemme know as I'm going to order some that are slightly different. The ones in the pics are 1/4" thick steel with some 1/16" washers. So the answer is some cut out of 5/16" and cadnium plated to prevent the rust. So lemme know if you want a set. There is only one more measurement that needs to be corrected. I had to file out the ID to fit over the hub.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8062&stc=1&d=1274333872

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8063&stc=1&d=1274333872

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8064&stc=1&d=1274333872

hes been super busy, hasnt even gotten a chance to really work on his car

Yeah I have been, see the last set of pics to illustrate what we went through for basically nothing. Still so pissed. First 2 days I have off I'm realling thinking about heading down to the Dragon just because. I can count on one hand the number of days I've had off in the last 6 weeks and I've had about 5 hours to work on the car since DGRRX.... sooooo bummed.

TitaniumTT

05-20-2010, 12:44 AM

So I figured I should give ya a few updates. Haven't really done shit since DGRRX, work has been kicking my ass to the tune of 10-14hrs/day 6 days a week. So I'm still thrashing every chance I get, but I've had no time as other shit keeps coming up, as in my mothers truck :banghead:

So anyway, here are some goodies

Pic of the rear of the car showing the battery/fuse/main disconnect mounting.... and of course the bitchin' Lizard Skin

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8065&stc=1&d=1274334521

MoTeC and TCMux mounting and wiring.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8066&stc=1&d=1274334521

ID2000 injector in my grimy hand, pair of ID 725's in the rail. These things just look impressive. If you've ever looked at the antiquated Delphi injectors that alot of us run, you'd understand. I really can't wait to start tuning with these injectors:icon_tup:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8067&stc=1&d=1274334521

ID2000 in purple, ID725's in the rail.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8068&stc=1&d=1274334521

Good shot of the attention to detail of the CJ Motorsports Fuel Rail

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8069&stc=1&d=1274334521

TitaniumTT

05-20-2010, 01:03 AM

CJ Rail installed. Really looking forward to getting them to build me a rail even though I just bought the GURU rail. The GURU rail has it's shortcomings as well but it's the BEST option that's currently available. And when they say 3-4 day delivery from AU, they mean it.

Anyway - CJ rail

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8070&stc=1&d=1274335620

The big problem with the injectors and fitting them into the RE LIM is the 16mm+ opening for the injectors. I know alot of people just put a bigger o-ring on and call it done, but I was STRONGLY urged by Paul to NOT do that. So I looked around for the little adapter baskets and then a rail set to the right height and the Guru rail was it. Here's a pic of the little adapter bucket.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8071&stc=1&d=1274335620

And installed in the LIM

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8072&stc=1&d=1274335620

The rail itself with the new ID2000's installed. If you look at the end, it's NOT a pipe thread as I would've liked to see. Instead it's a -8 ORB.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8073&stc=1&d=1274335620

Now, how does one get a 1/2"NPT Marren FPD onto a -8ORB fitting. The answer is you don't without a myriad of adapter fittings. I hate adapter fittings. So after a 9 minute phone call to MoTeC and a 2 day wait, this little gem of a package arrives. Bosch FPD, -6 Banjo, and an M18x1.25 to -8 ORB fitting. Who the HELL has a fitting like that? MoTeC - the only company that continues to impress me. Now, do I put it on the front of the rail to show it off, of the end of the rail to make the plumbing easier? :rofl:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8074&stc=1&d=1274335620

And assembled

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8075&stc=1&d=1274335620

TitaniumTT

05-20-2010, 01:09 AM

And this is what DGRRX will do to two seemingly normal people :smilielol5:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8076&stc=1&d=1274336018

And yes, that is my car cover..... 1/4" flannel lined, very warm ;)

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8077&stc=1&d=1274336018

Still left to do wold be
Plumb the fuel system
wire up the GT101 Hall Sensors
a few body panels to put on
install the FTP's
change a front caliper out
Build a fuel cell - this is going to kick some serious ass.

WE3RX7

05-20-2010, 12:38 PM

FC3S Murray

05-20-2010, 03:53 PM

Good progress Brian! Man it seems that slow FC work has been the pace for everyone this last month....I have only got 500 miles on the FC and barely any tuning done.

I am very impressed with Motec as well.....they really seem to hook there customers up indeed! I would have gone that route if I would have known about Motecs capabilities.

MAN I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE A PIC OF YOU SLEEPING.......................................... .........here is what you would really look like if you had your "perks" available that night lol
http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww213/FC3SMurray/redbull.jpg

project86

05-21-2010, 06:11 AM

TitaniumTT

05-21-2010, 08:08 AM

Bah... slacker.

You think you've done shit. I've had nothing short of wrapping up some interior stuff and jacking my car up in the last few weeks!

Looking good though - I love the fuel configuration! Must look into those injectors as well... when the time is right of course ;)

I've done less than that in the last 4 weeks. Although now that the car is here I'm getting about 90 minutes a night done, which I guess is better than nothing.

Look into the rails as well. Nicest I've seen. Still plan on working with CJ to make a secondary as there are a few things that I would like to change.... as always.

Good progress Brian! Man it seems that slow FC work has been the pace for everyone this last month....I have only got 500 miles on the FC and barely any tuning done.

Damn Sean, break that fucker in already before I fly out there and do it for you..... or you can send her here and I can have 4 RX7's in my driveway :001_005:

I am very impressed with Motec as well.....they really seem to hook there customers up indeed! I would have gone that route if I would have known about Motecs capabilities.

Most people don't, it's kind of surprising. Alot of people just follow the bandwagon but when they see what it can do, they all do the :banghead: routine. I think alot of people are scared off by the price as well. It's not cheap, but for what you get, including the support, it really is priceless. I'll never go another route on any of my personal cars.

MAN I NEVER THOUGHT I WOULD SEE A PIC OF YOU SLEEPING.......................................... .........here is what you would really look like if you had your "perks" available that night lol
[IMG]http://i721.photobucket.com/albums/ww213/FC3SMurray/redbull.jpg[

ppfffffffttt haahahaahahahaahaha. Yeah, that was a little 4 hr nap @ about 6 in the morning if memory serves.

:smilielol5: BWAHHAHAHA!! Man those fuel rails are nice and those injectors are siiiiick!

Yeah, I really can't wait to see what they do for idle, driveability, the map, everything. I called MoTeC one morning to ask a question and I got transferred to one of thier engineers. Guy sounded to be late 40's, incredridbly well spoken, very prim and proper. The he asks what injectors I'm using, I tell him Paul Yaw's Injector Dynamics.... he pauses for a breif moment and says. "Pauls injectors are the SHIT!" I laughed, he went on a 90 second tyraid abour how awesome they are, they're really the only injectors they rec now, they're this, they're that they're just the SHIT! Brian's excited, those Delphi's left me wanting.

project86

05-21-2010, 01:27 PM

hmm... youre putting more ideas in my head.....damn

TitaniumTT

05-21-2010, 09:31 PM

I'm telling ya man.............

actually I'll tell ya in PM to keep the secret a mystery ;)

EJayCe996

05-21-2010, 09:52 PM

TitaniumTT

05-24-2010, 10:40 PM

My friend is running 4 of those ID injectors on his 13b-RE since there's a few vids of bone stock 4 bangers idling/running on them without a hitch. Of course he's also full bridge with GT45 turbo and intends on running E85 in the near future so......

Nice. What did he do for a fuel rail and how did he punch up the diam from 14 to 16?

So I guess it's about time for an update of sorts. I pulled another all nighter just to try to stay on sched.

I've taken the interior as far as I can go until I get the fuel cell done. I really just wanted to show off the redline goods boots and new shifter. A little work on the engine and she's now ready to fire, as soon as I finish up this bitch.....

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8102&stc=1&d=1274758595

Here's almost all of the needed pieces.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8103&stc=1&d=1274758595

Getting that top on and tacked in place was without a doubt the hardest thing to do. In taking as many measurementsas possible I found out that everything was off by about .063" May not sound like alot but when it's half the thickness if the material being used, it becomes a rather large problem
Surge tank welded in place

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8105&stc=1&d=1274758595

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8106&stc=1&d=1274758595

Baffled. You can see the plate I built out of .25" AL with some 1/4-20 bolts for studs. Should be able to get enough loud on those fuckers to knock out any leaks.
The thing holds about a gallon of gas, shouldnever have an issue, or so I hope.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8107&stc=1&d=1274758595

With any luck I'll have the car running by memorial day.... I hope.

project86

05-25-2010, 12:14 AM

^^As always.. impressed by your work. Are we sure you arent a robot? The welds on that damn fuel cell are fantastic!

Oh and i dont know if you remember this or not but when i told you i sprayed my paint at 29psi to the cap, i meant 29psi to the gun. That i believe translates to 10psi to the cap. I was just thinkin about that the other day while i was at the paint store looking at guns.

EJayCe996

05-25-2010, 03:51 PM

Nice. What did he do for a fuel rail and how did he punch up the diam from 14 to 16?

I believe he has KG rails, and the 2nd part he didn't mention anything. I haven't seen his car/setup since he got in his M&W ignition/injectors

helghast7

05-25-2010, 06:01 PM

alright just scheduled myself in for a tune!! im excited

btw anyone know where i can get a new dashpot? mines dead in the water

TitaniumTT

05-27-2010, 10:34 PM

^^As always.. impressed by your work. Are we sure you arent a robot? The welds on that damn fuel cell are fantastic!

Thanks man, I was pretty much a robot at that point, the sun was coming up when I was doing that welding ;)

Oh and i dont know if you remember this or not but when i told you i sprayed my paint at 29psi to the cap, i meant 29psi to the gun. That i believe translates to 10psi to the cap. I was just thinkin about that the other day while i was at the paint store looking at guns.

Cool, thanks. I generally run a little more pressure than that esp with the clear. Are you reducing the clear at all to make it lay that flat?

I believe he has KG rails, and the 2nd part he didn't mention anything. I haven't seen his car/setup since he got in his M&W ignition/injectors

I've never been overly impressed with the KG rails, then again, I've never been impressed with really any of the aftmkt rails with the exception of one.

He probably just used a bigger o-ring. I was sternly warned about that especially with a boosted engine. I like the Guru rail mainly becuase it has the adapter buckets.

alright just scheduled myself in for a tune!! im excited

Sweet! I got myself a date with Dave as well...... now you guys just need to get to OCC.

btw anyone know where i can get a new dashpot? mines dead in the water

That's a good question. I don't think anyone would part with one of those if they're trying to sell a TB. you MAY have to get a whole new/used TB.

What about that Rotary Works TB? Seriously

helghast7

05-28-2010, 01:51 AM

MaczPayne

05-28-2010, 02:05 AM

That's a beautiful fuel cell!

TitaniumTT

05-28-2010, 05:24 AM

its a thought, im really trying(other then the tune and my splurge on the tail lights lol) not to spend any money for a while on the car, need to save for a beater for the winter because theres no way in hell im driving the fd with any kind of snow on the ground

i think dave said mazda sells them seperate...i guess it would be a good idea to call them lol, darn my laziness at times haha

I can't remember what that is. I just finished another allnighter, now it's off to a few side jobs before a 10 hr work day.... YAY!!!!!

That's a beautiful fuel cell!

Thanks Johnson, it'll be even more beautiful if it works ;)

EJayCe996

05-28-2010, 10:32 AM

Thanks Johnson, it'll be even more beautiful if it works ;)

You're TTT...
1. You're always right
2. Fucking always.
3. You never sleep, you just wait with your eyes closed.
4. Everything works
5. Fucking always.
6. You're not an angry person.
*7. You WILL stab someone.

helghast7

05-28-2010, 04:40 PM

lol brians like chuck norris, lets make some t shirts haha

TitaniumTT

05-28-2010, 05:30 PM

You're TTT...
1. You're always right
2. Fucking always.
3. You never sleep, you just wait with your eyes closed.
4. Everything works
5. Fucking always.
6. You're not an angry person.
*7. You WILL stab someone.

:rofl: what?@!?!?

#3 maybe my favorite

lol brians like chuck norris, lets make some t shirts haha

haahahaah

helghast7

05-28-2010, 05:54 PM

vex

05-30-2010, 11:07 PM

lol. Brian, how are you checking your fuel level (via dash. I assume you're just going to use the motec sensor for the signal)? I'm trying to figure out mapping for my car... and I think I have it nailed, but want to see what you do.

TitaniumTT

06-03-2010, 01:09 AM

btw the dashpot thingy is the piece on the tb that connects to the throttle linkage, it has that movable tongue looking thing that helps slow the plates on a decel

well my tongue thing is not moving...so i need a new one

i wish i had a pic, it would make way more sense

Negatory, I know exactely what it is. Would the one from your old n/a engine fit?

lol. Brian, how are you checking your fuel level (via dash. I assume you're just going to use the motec sensor for the signal)? I'm trying to figure out mapping for my car... and I think I have it nailed, but want to see what you do.

Nah, not the MoTeC sensor, that thing is too big and too expensive. Odd you should bring this up, sorry I didn't see it sooner. I was just about to weld the side on my tank when I was going through my checklist - sender - fucker - I dicked around with the stocker for a bit and decided that it would be too much effort to make it fit, so I'm just going to swing by the chandlery tomorrow and pick up a 9" Wema for my 10" deep tank.
http://www.wemausa.com/tank_sensors/details_SSS_SSL_tank_sensors.htm
If the Wema fails, I'll be able to adapt the stock sender into the mounting hole for the Wema so it's a no brainer. Wema for now, and if the Autometer gauge pisses me off.... I will stab it.

TitaniumTT

06-03-2010, 01:19 AM

A few pics of the lack of progress :( I can't wait till I get my first day off in two weeks on Friday. Maybe I'll try to break my 46 hour record :D

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8185&stc=1&d=1275546270

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8186&stc=1&d=1275546270

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8187&stc=1&d=1275546270

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8188&stc=1&d=1275546270

WE3RX7

06-03-2010, 09:34 PM

That looks like SHIT ;)

Seriously though... its looking pretty good, just make sure you get ALL the metal shavings out before you seal it up, lol...

FC3S Murray

06-03-2010, 09:53 PM

NICE DUDE!!!

Your work is always stellar! :)

I am going to start a FS thread this weekend so let me know what you want to do with those "items" when you get some free time bro.....no rush.

helghast7

06-04-2010, 01:51 AM

like i said from the very first weld i saw of yours...you put a robots precision and consistency to shame

so glad all my welding is done by you

speaking of your stuff...whats up with those stickers man?? lol

wanganwarrior

06-04-2010, 02:17 AM

very nice fab work

EJayCe996

06-07-2010, 01:56 PM

speaking of your stuff...whats up with those stickers man?? lol
whoa whoa whoa..... I WANT IN :rofl:

Force13b

06-07-2010, 03:48 PM

A few pics of the lack of progress :( I can't wait till I get my first day off in two weeks on Friday. Maybe I'll try to break my 46 hour record :D

[ig]http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8185&stc=1&d=1275546270[/img]

[img]http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8186&stc=1&d=1275546270[img]

[img]http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8187&stc=1&d=1275546270[/mg]

[img]http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8188&stc=1&d=1275546270[/mg]
Can that rubber hosing take gas on the outside of it? I know some rubbers get eaten up when summered in gas

vex

06-07-2010, 06:59 PM

A few pics of the lack of progress :( I can't wait till I get my first day off in two weeks on Friday. Maybe I'll try to break my 46 hour record :D

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8185&stc=1&d=1275546270

Holy multiple fittings BATMAN! Just fab a simpler setup! You know you want to. It will just nag at you until you do it.

You could easily make a single fitting on a lathe. I might even be able to design it up on Autodesk for you ;)

2gslse

06-07-2010, 08:41 PM

If the pump in the pics is going to feed the surge tank why bother running the line out the top and not directly into the surge tank?(troubleshooting later???)

Mobius

06-07-2010, 08:57 PM

I would hazard a guess that when/if you need to pull the pump, it's much easier, cleaner, safer to undo the line to the surge tank while it is outside the tank. As opposed to trying to undo fittings inside the tank.

TitaniumTT

06-07-2010, 09:13 PM

That looks like SHIT ;)

Seriously though... its looking pretty good, just make sure you get ALL the metal shavings out before you seal it up, lol...

:smilielol5: Thanks man, I'll try to remember that..

NICE DUDE!!!

Your work is always stellar! :)

I am going to start a FS thread this weekend so let me know what you want to do with those "items" when you get some free time bro.....no rush.

Yeah, I sent ya a PM, we gotta chat ;) Cus ya know, this car isn't done, the FD is outside under a cover, I definately need to start a turbo 'vert project :rofl:

like i said from the very first weld i saw of yours...you put a robots precision and consistency to shame

so glad all my welding is done by you

speaking of your stuff...whats up with those stickers man?? lol

Thanks Dae, and no worries, glad to help out, now we gotta get into some really custom shit :D

As for the stickers, next time I see ya I'll let ya know whats going on with that.

TitaniumTT

06-07-2010, 09:17 PM

very nice fab work

Thanks man:icon_tup:

Can that rubber hosing take gas on the outside of it? I know some rubbers get eaten up when summered in gas

Yes it can. And for all of you wondering the Aeromotive push-to-fit barb type hose can as well. The exterior is the same material as the interior so it can be submergered. You'll see pics of that tomorrow...... hopefully.

Holy multiple fittings BATMAN! Just fab a simpler setup! You know you want to. It will just nag at you until you do it.

You could easily make a single fitting on a lathe. I might even be able to design it up on Autodesk for you ;)

:lol: If you wanna hook me up I'll DEFINATELY take one. It needs to go from a -6 female to a 5/16" barb. The 5/16 barb is the problem. If it was a 3/8" I could do it with one fitting but it's that fucking 5/16" think that sucks balls.

TitaniumTT

06-07-2010, 09:27 PM

If the pump in the pics is going to feed the surge tank why bother running the line out the top and not directly into the surge tank?(troubleshooting later???)

I thought about that but then I would need to take the pump out and disconnect it from the feed line submerged in the tank. I thought if I ran it on the top, things would be easier. Also welding fittings on a round while possible is more difficult. And if I can't stand the Bosch pump again, I can run just the denso by swapping some outside lines while I wait for a new bigger denso to drop in and if that happens I am going to smash the bosch, then pee on it, light it on fire, pee on it, hit it with my BFH, pee on it, then mabye blow it up somehow. Then sell it to someone on the evil forum with drift, slidez, etc in his user name as slightly used.

I would hazard a guess that when/if you need to pull the pump, it's much easier, cleaner, safer to undo the line to the surge tank while it is outside the tank. As opposed to trying to undo fittings inside the tank.

This is also very true:icon_tup:

Aight ladies, I'm back behind the TIG mask for another 2 hrs or so. Hopefully get the whole thing welded up tonight with the exception of the fittings on the cartridge for the Bosch

vex

06-07-2010, 10:18 PM

:lol: If you wanna hook me up I'll DEFINATELY take one. It needs to go from a -6 female to a 5/16" barb. The 5/16 barb is the problem. If it was a 3/8" I could do it with one fitting but it's that fucking 5/16" think that sucks balls.

I need some dimensions. I can do the female -AN easy enough, what about the dimensions for the barb fitting?

helghast7

06-08-2010, 01:00 AM

Thanks Dave, and no worries, glad to help out, now we gotta get into some really custom shit :D

As for the stickers, next time I see ya I'll let ya know whats going on with that.

mmmmmmmmm i like the sound of that :001_005:

and i cant wait, yay stickers!!! lol

TitaniumTT

06-08-2010, 02:01 AM

I need some dimensions. I can do the female -AN easy enough, what about the dimensions for the barb fitting?

I dunno, I can mail one to you.....

That would be AWESOME! Thanks T

mmmmmmmmm i like the sound of that :001_005:

and i cant wait, yay stickers!!! lol

meh, not exactely what you're thinking.....

Sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo with the exception of the filler tube, the mother's all welded up.... YEAH BIOTCH! about 2.5 hrs of welding and almost as much time spent cleaning the material becuase of all the humidity we've had lately.... really messes shit up. Pretty sure I had some moisture in the hoses as well :banghead: Oh well, on with the pix

Good pic of the sender. The top warped slightly, had to brace it from the inside to weld it shut then reach in and remove the brace

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8217&stc=1&d=1275980616

That's a hell of a fit huh?

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8218&stc=1&d=1275980616

yup, straigtened everything with a little piece of angle on the side I couldn't reach.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8219&stc=1&d=1275980616

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8220&stc=1&d=1275980616

Yup

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8221&stc=1&d=1275980616

TitaniumTT

06-08-2010, 02:09 AM

Last one. Tomorrow ...... no wait, this morning when I wake up the filler tube goes on, hopefully ready to pressure test by the afternoon and then when I get home, wire some fuel pumps, build some straps and fire the girl off......... FINALLY.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8222&stc=1&d=1275980916

Force13b

06-08-2010, 04:05 PM

Yes it can. And for all of you wondering the Aeromotive push-to-fit barb type hose can as well. The exterior is the same material as the interior so it can be submergered. You'll see pics of that tomorrow...... hopefully.

Figured you have your bases covered but had to ask.
Last one. Tomorrow ...... no wait, this morning when I wake up the filler tube goes on, hopefully ready to pressure test by the afternoon and then when I get home, wire some fuel pumps, build some straps and fire the girl off......... FINALLY.

[im]http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8222&stc=1&d=1275980916[/img]

Nice!

WE3RX7

06-08-2010, 05:03 PM

How are you going to test for leaks? Just curious?

Any word on a trip to Daves?

TitaniumTT

06-08-2010, 05:11 PM

Figured you have your bases covered but had to ask.

Nice!

I appreciate the concern..... seriously..

Yeah, and I missed that.... spent way too long fitting the filler tube so tonight the cartridges will be finished, pressure tested tonight and again tomorrow.... either way, Thurs/Friday I can get her lit. Friday's my only day off too so if I don't get her done Friday, I'm missing Limerock next Thursday and that's going to make me angry.... as in mass homicide of women and children and cars if I miss Limerock this year again.

TitaniumTT

06-08-2010, 05:15 PM

How are you going to test for leaks? Just curious?

The drain gets plugged. The fill vent gets plumbed to a pressure gauge, the atmosphere vent gets plumbed to an air regulator. The feed gets plumbed to the return, I've got a plumbers plug for the fill. Add air pressure, smoke a cig and say a prayer then spray with water.

Any word on a trip to Daves? I sent an e-mail to him today, basically Mon-Wed next week for me I could probably make happen, Wed I could easily pull rank and get that day off for the dyno, then Limerock Thursday. So I'm hoping to have some GoPro vids up by the weekend..... if I miss it again.... well, we've covered that :rofl:

Thinking of making a trip to the new shop to see the piece of poo on the dyno ... as opposed to just a comp test and a few beers :smilielol5:

helghast7

06-09-2010, 12:54 AM

i actually have no clue what your refering too...but i like the sound of it :)

and im going this monday for my tune...wish me luck ;)

when do you want the engine btw?

and if you get her running by this weekend are you coming out to rotormania on saturday?

TitaniumTT

06-09-2010, 01:23 AM

i actually have no clue what your refering too...but i like the sound of it :)

and im going this monday for my tune...wish me luck ;)

Bah - you don't need luck, you got Dave. Just make sure you post up the results when you're done ;)

when do you want the engine btw?

Dunno, as soon as I get the chance I'll be out there. The 'vert project has taken a new turn now that Sean cracked his front iron and decided to be a pussy and "go back to america's roots," :rolleyes: whatever that means

:smilielol5:

But yeah, definately want to pick that thing up when I can. Thanks much my friend

and if you get her running by this weekend are you coming out to rotormania on saturday?

I had no idea there was a Rotormania... where is it and what time is it? I've got to work on Saturday so probably not :icon_tdown:

BTW - tell Benny to call/pm/txt me about this little PJ

FC3S Murray

06-09-2010, 07:33 AM

Dunno, as soon as I get the chance I'll be out there. The 'vert project has taken a new turn now that Sean cracked his front iron and decided to be a pussy and "go back to america's roots," :rolleyes: whatever that means

:smilielol5:

You S.O.B. :rofl:

You better answer when I call today hater :icon_tup:

TitaniumTT

06-09-2010, 07:49 AM

:rofl: I will, gonna txt ya my work number too JIC.

And I told you, I'm not a hater, we're almost done with one of those swaps here too. I just enjoy busting balls ;)

project86

06-09-2010, 12:34 PM

i think he would be more happy with a flathead v8.....

TitaniumTT

06-09-2010, 04:21 PM

I think he'd be happiest letting me rebuild his engine, breaking it in for him, tuning it for him, and letting him enjoy tight pants this summer. pfffft - n/a boingers :lol2:

project86

06-09-2010, 04:25 PM

hahaha

helghast7

06-09-2010, 05:03 PM

Bah - you don't need luck, you got Dave. Just make sure you post up the results when you're done ;)

oh im not worried about anything to do with dave, i need luck that i dont have a bad coil or my second set of twins took a dump lol

Dunno, as soon as I get the chance I'll be out there. The 'vert project has taken a new turn now that Sean cracked his front iron and decided to be a pussy and "go back to america's roots," :rolleyes: whatever that means

:smilielol5:

But yeah, definately want to pick that thing up when I can. Thanks much my friend

lol cool cool no problem buddy

I had no idea there was a Rotormania... where is it and what time is it? I've got to work on Saturday so probably not :icon_tdown:

yea its saturday in CT, i left the flier in my car ill post up better info when i can get it

BTW - tell Benny to call/pm/txt me about this little PJ

yea definetly, i know he was getting ambitious about it and i suggested to have his junk welded instead of buying new junk for it lol

helghast7

06-09-2010, 05:44 PM

btw, i wanted to start discusing with you future power plans since i have no real clue about the topic at hand, im not sure which route to go on a couple things and i figured your the best person to discuse this with

man its really hard to keep things a semi-secret...you dont no how long it took me to write that paragraph, making sure i didnt give anything away haha

TitaniumTT

06-09-2010, 09:31 PM

oh im not worried about anything to do with dave, i need luck that i dont have a bad coil or my second set of twins took a dump lol

I got an email from Dave today, looks like I'm up on Wed :D If I wasn't working 8-4 (which means 7-6) on Monday I'd blast up

lol cool cool no problem buddy

Sweet, thanks man

yea its saturday in CT, i left the flier in my car ill post up better info when i can get it

I think I know the one you're talking about actually, put on by the Vintage guys at some school to benefit some church right? I was hoping to go but between work and not really being ready, I'm going to pass

yea definetly, i know he was getting ambitious about it and i suggested to have his junk welded instead of buying new junk for it lol

Sweet. Yeah, I'd bet that his rad and intercooler and be reused, then there's the mounting etc etc etc. It would be awesome for sure.

btw, i wanted to start discusing with you future power plans since i have no real clue about the topic at hand, im not sure which route to go on a couple things and i figured your the best person to discuse this with

Thanks man, yeah if ya wanna keep it a secret, shoot me a PM or a txt. I'd be interested to hear what your plans/ideas are

man its really hard to keep things a semi-secret...you dont no how long it took me to write that paragraph, making sure i didnt give anything away haha

:rofl:

vex

06-10-2010, 08:04 AM

I dunno, I can mail one to you.....

That would be AWESOME! Thanks T

You can if you want, but I'll just check out mcmaster-carr for some drawings first. To be honest you're pretty bad at mailing things :lol:. I'll let you know if you need to include it with the manifold too.

vex

06-10-2010, 08:37 AM

Yeah TTT, you don't need to send it to me. All I need from you is the total length you need it to go: Tip-to-Tip as it were (I thought you might like that saying ;))

Also the following will help me design the best option for you. Max pressure it will carry, biggest moment it will see (horizontal force exerted by the mass of the pump acting on it during a hi-g corner). You don't have to give me that information if you don't want to, but it will help me in designing the lightest possible adapter for you (assuming aluminum, can also do it for a host of other materials too).

helghast7

06-10-2010, 09:31 PM

I got an email from Dave today, looks like I'm up on Wed :D If I wasn't working 8-4 (which means 7-6) on Monday I'd blast up

sweet dude, are you doing all the coil tests that day? if so let me know how it goes, ill probably pick up whatever you say is the best that i can use with the PFC

I think I know the one you're talking about actually, put on by the Vintage guys at some school to benefit some church right? I was hoping to go but between work and not really being ready, I'm going to pass

yea that one, we seem to be going pretty deep this year, ill take some pics and let you know how it goes

Sweet. Yeah, I'd bet that his rad and intercooler and be reused, then there's the mounting etc etc etc. It would be awesome for sure.

yea well see how things go, i got him real fired up about it, it should be pretty badass, well see what happens i guess

Thanks man, yeah if ya wanna keep it a secret, shoot me a PM or a txt. I'd be interested to hear what your plans/ideas are

yea ill probably pm you pretty soon, im not actually ready for anything quite yet....but i wana plan ahead so that when i am i can just order everything quickly and R&R everything in a couple days

TitaniumTT

06-10-2010, 11:19 PM

You can if you want, but I'll just check out mcmaster-carr for some drawings first. To be honest you're pretty bad at mailing things :lol:. I'll let you know if you need to include it with the manifold too.

Yeah I deserve that, but you did tell me you were in no rush. When you get in a rush, I'll be on it.

Yeah TTT, you don't need to send it to me. All I need from you is the total length you need it to go: Tip-to-Tip as it were (I thought you might like that saying ;))

Yeah, maybe a little bit :rofl: As short as possible really. I think it'll be difficult to built though because it'll be a female fitting. Meaning the head needs to rotate in order to tighten the seal. Make sense?

Also the following will help me design the best option for you. Max pressure it will carry, biggest moment it will see (horizontal force exerted by the mass of the pump acting on it during a hi-g corner). You don't have to give me that information if you don't want to, but it will help me in designing the lightest possible adapter for you (assuming aluminum, can also do it for a host of other materials too).

call it 85psi
10lbs' maybe?
AL is fine. I'm not a fan of mixing metals, especially when submerged.

sweet dude, are you doing all the coil tests that day? if so let me know how it goes, ill probably pick up whatever you say is the best that i can use with the PFC

Negatory, need to get the girl back up to speed with the new injectors, pump, and coils. Starting at WG and NS and rolling up to 15psi NS, then turning on the sequentials and rolling that from WG to 15psi. So basically starting from scratch but with a somewhat accurate road map. The software in the MoTeC is incredible. I was talking with one of the engineers making sure I understood something - you can adjust the injector pulse width duty cycle if you will. Meaning if I go from say 4000cc's of flow up to 5000cc's of flow all I need to do is scale the IJPU (they call it) back 25% and it'll be spot of ASSUMING THE INJECTORS BEHAVE THE SAME - dead time, voltage comps etc etc. Becuase I'm changing injectors to some real ones, they will behave differently at certain voltages and pressures. So while I can get the scaling correct in the fuel map, it'll still be off in certain areas becuase of the characteristics of the injectors.

yea that one, we seem to be going pretty deep this year, ill take some pics and let you know how it goes

If you're going in, go balls deep ;) It's only about 20 minutes past my house. Wish I could go. If you guys are leaving early or late enough, we should get together. I'll be working a half day on Sat, 9am to 9 pm, 12 hrs, 1/2 day right? :rofl: Just like today

yea well see how things go, i got him real fired up about it, it should be pretty badass, well see what happens i guess

Definately, I'd love to pull that girl into my shop late summer early fall. Got a backlog now actually which is good I guess.

yea ill probably pm you pretty soon, im not actually ready for anything quite yet....but i wana plan ahead so that when i am i can just order everything quickly and R&R everything in a couple days

Chance favors the prepared ;) I like to get everything lined up too. When it's not, you find yourself touching yourself in the corner waiting on parts. Of course I'm in the opposite boat right now. I've got everthing I need except time. Right now I'm waiting on the tank to cool so I can pressure test it again. With any luck the girl will light off later today. Oddly enough Friday is my day off, yet I'll be going into work tomorrow @ 7am :scratch: Hopefully I can get home with enough time to get the tank wired, filler sorted out, straps built, wired and pumping fuel. If the car doesn't start tomorrow I'm going to ask for some time off, this is just getting ridiculous.

helghast7

06-10-2010, 11:43 PM

you know...idk if i showed you any pictures from deals this year ill just show you a quickie:

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/Helghast7/My%20FD/120.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/Helghast7/My%20FD/DSC_0009copy.jpg
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn58/Helghast7/My%20FD/DSC_0014copy.jpg

TitaniumTT

06-10-2010, 11:55 PM

Nice, I know that gas station :D

btw - I hate you so much right now ;) I'm done welding, tank is holding pressure so I'm off to bed, actually the couch, I wake up easier when I pass out on the couch. Lemme know about Sat, I give the FC a 50/50 chance of being on the ground running. I sense an allnighter and a day off in the near future.

helghast7

06-11-2010, 01:32 AM

coolio! were definetly going, i dont no what time though, i know were meeting up in NYC first then rolling out all at once...theres more info on rx8club that i have to look for

but im definetly going, omar, bangkok, bunch of other peoples, that guy khris with the minty red fd

i no bennys not going since his car is in pieces...again lol, and idk if dennis is going since i dont think he got his car back from the body shop from repairing the damage from when he got hit

EJayCe996

06-11-2010, 10:38 AM

If the car doesn't start tomorrow I'm going to ask for some time off, this is just getting ridiculous.

EJ's TTT rules 4 and 5........:)

RICE RACING

06-11-2010, 11:00 PM

What an unreal thread :icon_tup:

Only skimmed through a few pages, will take some time to look over all of it. Keep up the excellent work. :001_005:

helghast7

06-15-2010, 02:29 AM

ohh im so fucking happy!!!!!!!!!!!!

made some big numbers, hit my goal on the dot, only thing holding me back from making more is the twins

so do you wana no what it is??? lol

TitaniumTT

06-15-2010, 09:14 AM

350 wheel right?

project86

06-15-2010, 11:47 AM

After those pics got posted i went for a quickie............:suspect:

350whp seems to be the magic number...:icon_tup:

helghast7

06-15-2010, 04:58 PM

close, 359 at 14 psi and 292 lbs of torque

best thing about it though is, my fuel system has plenty wiggle room to go, i think he said it was at about 70% duty cycle.. its just the turbos wont last long on anymore pressure

Dave loved how hard my car pulled, he even tempted me to up the boost haha

long story short, ill have no issues what so ever hitting next milestones power goals once i get there

oh, btw Brian, Dave loved the seats, especially since he had customers tell him theres no way to make them fit :)

my next step is better cooling, either i do what benny was intending on doing now..plus get dual oil coolers

or i do some crazy amount of ducting...and get dual oil coolers lol

so i think you can see where my next step lies hahaha

oh yea, dyno sheets posted soon

vex

06-15-2010, 06:16 PM

Yeah I deserve that, but you did tell me you were in no rush. When you get in a rush, I'll be on it.Don't worry. I'm still not in a rush about it. I'm actually trying to thin my crap before I move... speaking of which I need to post up a new FS thread with pictures this time around. I'll do that after I post up what I did for you.

Yeah, maybe a little bit :rofl: As short as possible really. I think it'll be difficult to built though because it'll be a female fitting. Meaning the head needs to rotate in order to tighten the seal. Make sense?
It does, but it doesn't really matter since it's a hose fitting on the other end, meaning it can swivel on the hose. So you can make it out of a solid piece of aluminium, which all things considered is dead sexy. ;)

call it 85psi
10lbs' maybe?
AL is fine. I'm not a fan of mixing metals, especially when submerged.

Welp, check out the attachments. I did the analysis and from what I can tell you're no where near yield. I mean you hit 9.something ksi and displace maybe 0.016 inches (i'd have to double check the scale), but this is over kill engineering for you... hmmm... possible new name? :squint:

I'm still not 100% on the dimensions, but it's fully dimensioned which means if you want it in a different size 2 seconds and it's done. How do you like dem apples? About the only other thing I could do to make the results even more accurate is simulate the remote force from an off concentric load (ie COM of the fuel pump just hanging out on the side), but in all honesty it's not going to do much of anything in both displacement and stress on the piece.

TitaniumTT

06-15-2010, 09:18 PM

What an unreal thread :icon_tup:

Only skimmed through a few pages, will take some time to look over all of it. Keep up the excellent work. :001_005:

Thanks much man, where did you stop? Did you see the pics of the car rotating? Or the rot cut out? Or just hit the end with the fuel cell from hell?

After those pics got posted i went for a quickie............:suspect:

350whp seems to be the magic number...:icon_tup:

Dave's got a sexy sexy FD for sure.... and yes, I know quite a few Dave's :rofl:

350? psssssshhhhhhh, 400 or nothing......... next I'll be saying 500 or nothing :eek:

close, 359 at 14 psi and 292 lbs of torque

best thing about it though is, my fuel system has plenty wiggle room to go, i think he said it was at about 70% duty cycle.. its just the turbos wont last long on anymore pressure

Dave loved how hard my car pulled, he even tempted me to up the boost haha

Nice numbers indeed. Close to 300ft/lbs is nothing to sneeze at :icon_tup:

You should be able to hit 400 on that fuel system. I like to keep things to ~75% duty but can definately go higher. Last year mine was @ 93% :leaving:

long story short, ill have no issues what so ever hitting next milestones power goals once i get there

oh, btw Brian, Dave loved the seats, especially since he had customers tell him theres no way to make them fit :)

Who told him that? Keyboard jockeys that don't know how to rock a plasma? People crack me up sometimes.... then again I have a knack for stuffing things where they don't belong. My nickname is the Himenator for good reason :smilielol5: Hopefully they were comfy for him, he should be in mine tomorrow. Still need to put the front clip on, dash surround, wipers, stereo, adjust the exhaust system (hangers are too close to the fuel cell) wire up the speed signals, wash the car, yes it will be happening ~3am if I'm lucky, shower and hit the road - REDBULL DON'T FAIL ME NOW! I have three of the big mothers in the fridge :rofl:

my next step is better cooling, either i do what benny was intending on doing now..plus get dual oil coolers

or i do some crazy amount of ducting...and get dual oil coolers lol

so i think you can see where my next step lies hahaha

oh yea, dyno sheets posted soon

Do it over the winter if ever. It'll give us plenty of time to plan it out, gather parts, we can use my FD for test fitment/mock-up if need be but I'm not a fan of PJ's like that over the summer. I want to be enjoying my FC and working on the XJ although it rarely happens like that. Not to mention I have a backlog till about october which is both good and bad I guess...... and the vert should be here soon too assuming the FC gets a clean bill of health tomorrow, Limerock Thursday, suss out the rear wheel speed sensors and then at some point trade tranny's so the Vert has one and install the wheel speed sensors then the FC is done, till next time.

Don't up the boost though, the turbo's really don't last very long at those levels. Mine are starting to leak/smoke slightly. I'm hoping that it clears up but I doubt it will. I may be in the mkt for a new set very soon :(

TitaniumTT

06-15-2010, 09:22 PM

Don't worry. I'm still not in a rush about it. I'm actually trying to thin my crap before I move... speaking of which I need to post up a new FS thread with pictures this time around. I'll do that after I post up what I did for you.

I hear that my friend.

It does, but it doesn't really matter since it's a hose fitting on the other end, meaning it can swivel on the hose. So you can make it out of a solid piece of aluminium, which all things considered is dead sexy. ;)

Welp, check out the attachments. I did the analysis and from what I can tell you're no where near yield. I mean you hit 9.something ksi and displace maybe 0.016 inches (i'd have to double check the scale), but this is over kill engineering for you... hmmm... possible new name? :squint:

I'm still not 100% on the dimensions, but it's fully dimensioned which means if you want it in a different size 2 seconds and it's done. How do you like dem apples? About the only other thing I could do to make the results even more accurate is simulate the remote force from an off concentric load (ie COM of the fuel pump just hanging out on the side), but in all honesty it's not going to do much of anything in both displacement and stress on the piece.

That looks awesome T. A little long but year looks fantastic. All the engineering is impressive. in reality though, there will be very little stress on the part as the pump is supported pretty well and not allowed to move much if any at all, I like it:icon_tup:

but this is over kill engineering for you... hmmm... possible new name? :squint:

For who????? :smilielol5: :squint:

vex

06-15-2010, 09:50 PM

I hear that my friend.

That looks awesome T. A little long but year looks fantastic. All the engineering is impressive. in reality though, there will be very little stress on the part as the pump is supported pretty well and not allowed to move much if any at all, I like it:icon_tup:Well, as soon as I double check the -AN stuff I can make it any size you want... Bet you never heard that before ;)

For who????? :smilielol5: :squint:
;)

I sure like to wink at you... Must be the car.

TitaniumTT

06-16-2010, 10:43 AM

:lol: My car is a prissy little attention WHORE! and now with a fucked rear end...... so if anyone has a 4.11 ring and pinion kicking around... I need one. Car goes nowhere till I can get one.:(

project86

06-16-2010, 12:19 PM

:lol: My car is a prissy little attention WHORE! and now with a fucked rear end...... so if anyone has a 4.11 ring and pinion kicking around... I need one. Car goes nowhere till I can get one.:(

well if you would quit touching it in all the right ways maybe your prissy attention whore would learn to behave herself:rofl:

jtbshaw

06-16-2010, 01:54 PM

Hmmm, that fuel cell looks very familiar. Wonder where you got that idea.

Seriously, it looks good B. My TII finally arrives tomorrow, so, hopefully, my son and I can get this thing finished up soon.

Keep up the good work.

Todd B.

helghast7

06-16-2010, 04:41 PM

Nice numbers indeed. Close to 300ft/lbs is nothing to sneeze at :icon_tup:

You should be able to hit 400 on that fuel system. I like to keep things to ~75% duty but can definately go higher. Last year mine was @ 93% :leaving:

yea it seems that way, though next big set of mods i do ill probably upgrade my secondaries and fuel pump anyways, just to have a little more cushion...gona talk to dave about those 2k injectors on the pfc :001_005:

Who told him that? Keyboard jockeys that don't know how to rock a plasma? People crack me up sometimes.... then again I have a knack for stuffing things where they don't belong. My nickname is the Himenator for good reason :smilielol5: Hopefully they were comfy for him, he should be in mine tomorrow.

yea no kidding, its one of the reasons why most people have cars that are just like everyone elses, hard to be unique when your telling yourself it cant be done all the time

im always down for trying something custom on my car :)

Do it over the winter if ever. It'll give us plenty of time to plan it out, gather parts, we can use my FD for test fitment/mock-up if need be but I'm not a fan of PJ's like that over the summer. I want to be enjoying my FC and working on the XJ although it rarely happens like that. Not to mention I have a backlog till about october which is both good and bad I guess...... and the vert should be here soon too assuming the FC gets a clean bill of health tomorrow, Limerock Thursday, suss out the rear wheel speed sensors and then at some point trade tranny's so the Vert has one and install the wheel speed sensors then the FC is done, till next time.

oh yea definetly, i know how busy you are, plus i definetly dont want to put my FD to sleep when i just got the damn thing running great! lol....and...i need to save up monies anyways :rofl: ....and get a beater....

but yea i definetly want to do it, especially since it shouldnt be all that hard....the majority of the work i did already from installing the setup i have now. so theres plenty of room to play with

Don't up the boost though, the turbo's really don't last very long at those levels. Mine are starting to leak/smoke slightly. I'm hoping that it clears up but I doubt it will. I may be in the mkt for a new set very soon :(

oh yea i defintly know that, especially from my first set....and then talking with Dave...he tempted me but i resisted....especially after he told me how long they lasted when he upped them to 17psi for another customer....which was all of 3 months :rofl:

this reminds me, that i still have to post up the dyno sheets...and pics dennis took of me when we were driving down to rotormania... we rolled in so hard core we had our own camera car lmao!

vex

06-16-2010, 06:36 PM

:lol: My car is a prissy little attention WHORE! and now with a fucked rear end...... so if anyone has a 4.11 ring and pinion kicking around... I need one. Car goes nowhere till I can get one.:(

Sorry... I couldn't help myself. She was bending over and not wearing any panties... so I did what any normal man would do. I piidb.:seeya:

TitaniumTT

06-17-2010, 09:21 AM

well if you would quit touching it in all the right ways maybe your prissy attention whore would learn to behave herself:rofl:

:smilielol5: She does need a spanking. Although first with the nice weather, a day off, and some time to think I'll be heading outside to wash, compound, glaze and wax her. Naughty girl

Hmmm, that fuel cell looks very familiar. Wonder where you got that idea.

Yup yup, those 2" AL tubes that I stole from you worked out perfectly. I mounted them so they wedge in between the mounting "blocks" that the factory straps mount to. I had to build my own straps with a little padding and the fit is so snug that I can jam the thing in place and it stays without the straps. Pretty cool. A few days ago I went and looked for your pics, they're moved....

Seriously, it looks good B. My TII finally arrives tomorrow, so, hopefully, my son and I can get this thing finished up soon.

Keep up the good work.

Todd B.

Nice, that should be a badass ride when it's done. Good luck Todd.

I need to take a few more measurements in the next few days and send you a few files. It's time to nail down these rear trigger wheels and get them off to you for some cutting and plating.

yea it seems that way, though next big set of mods i do ill probably upgrade my secondaries and fuel pump anyways, just to have a little more cushion...gona talk to dave about those 2k injectors on the pfc :001_005:

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Although I will say that the idle is SUPERB with the new ID injectors....... I couldn't believe it. Perfect 950rpm, I love 'em thus far. Oh, and there was alot of bitching towards me over on the evil forum about never being able to get the transition right... Idiots, all of them. Didn't even need to adjust anything after I reconfigured the MoTeC for the different sized injectors. What a bunch of keyboard mechanics.

yea no kidding, its one of the reasons why most people have cars that are just like everyone elses, hard to be unique when your telling yourself it cant be done all the time

:rolleyes: Exactely. Anything can be done, well almost anything.

im always down for trying something custom on my car :)

oh yea definetly, i know how busy you are, plus i definetly dont want to put my FD to sleep when i just got the damn thing running great! lol....and...i need to save up monies anyways :rofl: ....and get a beater....

but yea i definetly want to do it, especially since it shouldnt be all that hard....the majority of the work i did already from installing the setup i have now. so theres plenty of room to play with

Ah, I thought you were talking VMIC :naughty:

oh yea i defintly know that, especially from my first set....and then talking with Dave...he tempted me but i resisted....especially after he told me how long they lasted when he upped them to 17psi for another customer....which was all of 3 months :rofl:

Yeah, I tend to drive around @ 10psi and then up it when it's time to play. I've got that little trim knob to go from 10-15psi in 9 equal increments. Pretty badass.

this reminds me, that i still have to post up the dyno sheets...and pics dennis took of me when we were driving down to rotormania... we rolled in so hard core we had our own camera car lmao!

:rofl: Nice, I need a new ring and pinion so I can start playing.

Sorry... I couldn't help myself. She was bending over and not wearing any panties... so I did what any normal man would do. I piidb.:seeya:

Can't blame ya.

TitaniumTT

06-17-2010, 09:36 AM

Fuel cell is obviously done and installed and as far as I can tell, working just great so I thought I'd share the last few pics of this nightmarish RE-REbuild... that's well, not entirely finished just yet. Problems from the first few miles are as follows
Rear end is fragged
The front right ABS knuckle that I picked up is out of shape and causing the rotor to contact the caliper. Yes, that is accurate. I though after I put everything back together that it was a frozen caliper becuase it wouldn't turn. So I bought a new caliper, bled it and the problem was still there. WTF? Fuck it, maybe with some heat she'll loosen up. What a fucking NOISE! Investigated and found the problem. Chewed into the caliper by ~.05". I removed the shim so it would work but still need a new knuckle. Bill's getting a PM shortly.
T/O bearing making some noise - not so concerend because I still need to get that 6-spd in.
Front heat shield for the cell.
better install on the Alpine PDX-5
New battery. I'm starting to hate Optima batteries.

So, onto the last few set's of pics.

I decided to be a baller and get some Mil-Spec fuel cell bulkhead connectors. in hindsight, they're dead sexy, but very pricey. Whatever. I got a tip from the engineers @ MoTeC - Crimp the wires, solder the terminals - cool The terminals are rated @ 13A. That's about what these pumps draw so I decided to double up on them. THe white and 3rd black wire run to a MetriPack connector so I can measure fuel pump voltage AT the pump while running. Pretty badass I think.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8272&stc=1&d=1276785650

Completed pic of the Bosch pump. It's still loud, but I can live with it....... for now.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8273&stc=1&d=1276785650

Completed pic of Denso pump, still quite, still love it.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8274&stc=1&d=1276785650

Look at that heatshrink. WTF is wrong with Raychem, that'll never fit right. BASTARDS!!!!!!!!

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8275&stc=1&d=1276785650

oh wait - nmd - I still love those guys :rofl:

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8276&stc=1&d=1276785650

TitaniumTT

06-17-2010, 09:41 AM

The completed cell. Just need to get some connectors on the end of the harness and she be done.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8277&stc=1&d=1276786029

Filler. filler vent, rollover/atmosphere vent

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8278&stc=1&d=1276786029

Access to denso pump. I wasn't about to cut into the floor pan, in hindsight I should've, and if I find myself needing access to the Bosch pump or the sender I probably will. but for now, negatory.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8279&stc=1&d=1276786029

I still need a few pics of the underside :D Looks pretty cool from the back ;)

WE3RX7

06-17-2010, 09:50 AM

Bill's getting a PM shortly.
Replying shortly....

New battery. I'm starting to hate Optima batteries.

Finally, my band-wagon is getting heavy. I have found optima batteries to be a huge PIA. I actually use Exide gel cells now... heavy, but affective.

TitaniumTT

06-17-2010, 10:24 AM

Blah, I tried the Exides as well and had the same problems. They do NOT like slow draws at all. I've checked and rechecked and I have no shorts but a few things that are constantly on - alarm, radio mem, etc etc. When they die, they're dead. I got a year out of this one, I guess that's alright. I've had them in my DD's for YEARS, and they will last when constantly being charged. But I think they suck balls for project cars. We've had the same problem in my buddies Landy. THe guys kept leaving the battery switched on - Painless Performance remote battery disco - well that fucker pulls about an amp. So when you leave the battery on, you're constantly killing it. THe battery that they said was completely dead was, and we swapped it out. But it now lives on in my XJ and has been fine for months now. The thing to do maybe to keep a trickle charger on it at all times. I dunno. Easy fix though, others not so much.

WE3RX7

06-17-2010, 10:40 AM

TitaniumTT

06-17-2010, 10:51 AM

project86

06-17-2010, 10:59 AM

Either a trickle charge or COMPLETELY disco the battery. But that defeats the purpose of alarms and radio mem's. In a track car it's fine. Setup the disco on the negative side and you'll NEVER have an issue. I've had them hold a charge in storage over a winter doing that. But two+ weeks with a slow drain.... <1A, and they're fucked.

Glad to know I'm not the only one.

Maybe the answer is to actually drive the car :rofl:

Dude i had the same problem with my red top. The first time i re worked my front end in the body shop ( it didnt sit for that long) the damn thing was completely dead. I was kinda shocked. Ive tried braile batteries. I still have one of their lightweight carbon race batteries. Its pretty cool. CCA is really low and i think the CA was only around 700 something. but they make bigger ones too i think.

BTW fuel cell looks super.

helghast7

06-17-2010, 04:32 PM

brian...i was talking about a VMIC setup.... :)

i was saying that since i did the FMIC setup that most of the work has been done, all thats really needed left is to modify the IC and rad, and make new mounts

i already relocated the battery, and removed all the extra clutter that used to be there, if you remove the IC and rad all thats left is a big hole lol

but like i said, i wana wait till winter when i need to put her to sleep anyways, it would be dumb to do it now when theres still so much nice weather out.

though i swear im gona set the damn car on fire with the way it acts sometimes

MaczPayne

06-17-2010, 08:44 PM

Max777

06-19-2010, 10:28 AM

TitaniumTT

06-19-2010, 10:24 PM

Dude i had the same problem with my red top. The first time i re worked my front end in the body shop ( it didnt sit for that long) the damn thing was completely dead. I was kinda shocked. Ive tried braile batteries. I still have one of their lightweight carbon race batteries. Its pretty cool. CCA is really low and i think the CA was only around 700 something. but they make bigger ones too i think.

It doesn't seem like it takes much A over time to kill these bitches. I dunno. I'm not about to reset my stereo setting everytime I drive the car, nor am I about to leave it disarmed. Whatever, I'll figure something out. Maybe a quick plug in for a trickle charger.

I love how people jump all over the Optima's. They did an awesome job marketing those things for sure.

BTW fuel cell looks super.

Thanks Kyle:icon_tup:

brian...i was talking about a VMIC setup.... :)

SAHWEEEEEET!!!

i was saying that since i did the FMIC setup that most of the work has been done, all thats really needed left is to modify the IC and rad, and make new mounts

Gotcha. The intercooler MAY need to go away which wouldn't be a bad thing. Sell it and make some cash. We'll have to see when we mock everyything up. You've got the dual oil-coolers already yes? Can you monitor oil temps with your PFC or no.... no datalogit right?

i already relocated the battery, and removed all the extra clutter that used to be there, if you remove the IC and rad all thats left is a big hole lol

Big hole that needs to be filled with some custom shit!

but like i said, i wana wait till winter when i need to put her to sleep anyways, it would be dumb to do it now when theres still so much nice weather out.

though i swear im gona set the damn car on fire with the way it acts sometimes

No doubt man. I gotta lead on a rear, if it falls through I'm going to buy a new 4.3 rear. In the fall I'm doing my car before anyone elses....... after clients of course ;)

TitaniumTT

06-19-2010, 10:34 PM

If you want the Paul Bunyan of batteries, go with an East Penn Deka Intimidator AGM battery.

I have a Deka ETX16 17lb battery in my fc, been working great so far; I finally installed it in my car after 2 years, it still fired up :)

Nice. The only problem is the super sexy billet hold down that I bought was machined specifically for the 75/25 series. I could always move that over to the truck, except I think that's running the 34 series.... sigh. I dunno. I may find a dealer and try to swap the fucker out for a yellow top. If they won't be good about it, and I bought the thing about a year ago, then fuck them. I'll check out that Deka. Is that a gel cell, dry top, no fumes when charging battery? Got the thing mounted in the passenger bin

The red tops suck... the yellow top is where it's at. : I'm not completely sure how it works, but the yellow optima is designed for people with heavy sound systems, and people that tend to drain their batery often... I have abused the shit out of my battery and it still works great.

I hope not to jinx anything, but I've had one ever since my old fc vert and I love it. I would leave the stereo on for 4 hours, leave the lights on for 30 min, leave the car KOEO overnight... pretty much do whatever the fuck I want and it ALWAYS starts... fucking ALWAYS.

So, I dunno what you're talking bout.... mush have bought the wrong battery?:001_005:

No, the red one is the standard starting battery. The yellow is a deep cycle that is designed to be able to be brought back from the dead with no issues. The battery shouldn't die if left unattended for a few days though. It's not that I bought the wrong battery, it's that the battery pretty much blows.

helghast7

06-20-2010, 03:49 AM

Gotcha. The intercooler MAY need to go away which wouldn't be a bad thing. Sell it and make some cash. We'll have to see when we mock everyything up. You've got the dual oil-coolers already yes? Can you monitor oil temps with your PFC or no.... no datalogit right?

actually, if you look closely at the pics here:

http://www.rx7store.net/Vmount_Intercooler_93_RX_7_p/vmount%20intercooler.htm

thats there greddy FMIC replica intercooler that has had the end tanks rewelded....
and i have a real greddy FMIC lol

so if those bobos can do it i dont see why we cant do it better :001_005:

and no i dont have duals yet, its number 1 on my list as of right now. though

and no the PFC cant read oil temps..however ive been told that you see on the PFC a significant drop in your coolant temps when you have duals compared to a single

Big hole that needs to be filled with some custom shit!

oh yes im most definetly excited...and yea im slacking with the dyno sheet

No doubt man. I gotta lead on a rear, if it falls through I'm going to buy a new 4.3 rear. In the fall I'm doing my car before anyone elses....... after clients of course ;)

hey im in no rush, i would much rather see you get yours running then working on my car that is running already...besides...way i see it, the longer i wait, the more money i get to save up for it :rofl:

and btw on the subject of batteries..at least for the FD, nothing beats the westco miata battery

small enough to fit perfectly in the tiny rear storage bins, yet has some decent CCA...more then enough to start up a rotary...and ive left my radio and rad fans on for a couple hours and havent had any issues starting the car back up

best thing about it though, is if you look hard enough online(like i did ;) ) you can get it for 100 bucks shipped to your door

Mazdabater

06-25-2010, 10:29 AM

Force13b

06-25-2010, 06:05 PM

Fuel cell looks fucking awesome Bri-Bri!

MaczPayne

06-25-2010, 10:52 PM

Nice. The only problem is the super sexy billet hold down that I bought was machined specifically for the 75/25 series. I could always move that over to the truck, except I think that's running the 34 series.... sigh. I dunno. I may find a dealer and try to swap the fucker out for a yellow top. If they won't be good about it, and I bought the thing about a year ago, then fuck them. I'll check out that Deka. Is that a gel cell, dry top, no fumes when charging battery? Got the thing mounted in the passenger bin

.

I've got to build the box for my battery too :D

Yeah, the Intimidator is a sealed absorbed glass mat battery, perfect for your passenger bin :)

RICE RACING

06-26-2010, 01:34 AM

TitaniumTT

06-26-2010, 08:46 AM

actually, if you look closely at the pics here:

http://www.rx7store.net/Vmount_Intercooler_93_RX_7_p/vmount%20intercooler.htm

thats there greddy FMIC replica intercooler that has had the end tanks rewelded....
and i have a real greddy FMIC lol

so if those bobos can do it i dont see why we cant do it better :001_005:

Nice, yeah, there's something to be said about not having to make it easy to make a profit. Plus the FD has alot more brackets and whatnot in the bay for mounting. THe FC has nothing, I had to build my own frame from scratch.

and no i dont have duals yet, its number 1 on my list as of right now. though

and no the PFC cant read oil temps..however ive been told that you see on the PFC a significant drop in your coolant temps when you have duals compared to a single

Yup, with so much heat being taken out of the engine by the oil, the cooler that it, the cooler the coolant will be.

hey im in no rush, i would much rather see you get yours running then working on my car that is running already...besides...way i see it, the longer i wait, the more money i get to save up for it :rofl:

Good, 'cuz I'm on borrowed time right now :rofl: So much backed up it's retarded and no time to get it done in. Everytime I think I have a day off, I get called in or something else needs to be done. Like yesterday - went in @ 5:30am to deal with my side shit, everything was going perfect, ready to leave @ 11:30 and spend the day doing my shit. Instead I tossed in and didn't get home until ~12 hours later. 12 hours that I thought I had to get my shit done dissappeared..... Brian was pissed.

and btw on the subject of batteries..at least for the FD, nothing beats the westco miata battery

small enough to fit perfectly in the tiny rear storage bins, yet has some decent CCA...more then enough to start up a rotary...and ive left my radio and rad fans on for a couple hours and havent had any issues starting the car back up

best thing about it though, is if you look hard enough online(like i did ;) ) you can get it for 100 bucks shipped to your door

I'm not sure what I'm going to do about this shit. I'm liking the Deka idea, I'll have to check out dimensions, the westco I love, but I don't think I can use the tray I have, would have to build one.

I dunno, I'm also going to try a 2 day trickle and see if I can't wake that POS optima up.

TitaniumTT

06-26-2010, 08:54 AM

LOL just having a good laugh at you on the other forum in the "FC proper stance" thread. Fuck that shit is retarted. "How dare you diss my car i roll chameleon bro" "my setups so mad i need 275's to hold the stock turbo" LOL

Yup, looks like alot of that shit got cleaned up too, kinda defeats the point of that thread I think.... isn't it there to point and laugh at all the fuckwits nutswingers who thing that an 18X22 -q3409i50983745 offset will fit the front and that -55* camber is fine for tire life?

I would really like to have an all drifter event, hype it up sooooooo much that EVERY LAST ONE OF THOSE FANBOI'S ATTENDS, and then nuke it. I hate thier attitude. One of the little fuckers actually told me, "move over old man, new generation coming through," when I pointed out how some analrangers 12"widfe rims wouldn't fit in the rear.

LOL send me a link to that shit :rofl:

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=902896&page=4

TitaniumTT

06-26-2010, 08:55 AM

I've got to build the box for my battery too :D

Yeah, the Intimidator is a sealed absorbed glass mat battery, perfect for your passenger bin :)

Excellent... I'll have to look up some dimensions and see what's available. Thanks Johnson:icon_tup:

Fuel cell looks fucking awesome Bri-Bri!

Thanks sweeite :kiss: Now lets hope it works :rofl: Haven't really driven the car all that hard for other reasons, so we'll see in a week or so I guess.

EJayCe996

06-27-2010, 09:55 PM

One of the little fuckers actually told me, "move over old man, new generation coming through," when I pointed out how some analrangers 12"widfe rims wouldn't fit in the rear.

Move over, old fart :lol:

helghast7

06-28-2010, 02:01 AM

yea pops back the fudge up! this is a new era where were doing things that have never been done before! were going low!
http://blog.al.com/engine-block/2008/04/gypsy_rose.jpg
and we have tons of poke!
http://www.buggiesgonewild.com/members/jeeptwins-albums-orange-crush-picture1202-jeep001.jpg

100% straight up JDM original! never been done before!!! yo

TitaniumTT

06-28-2010, 05:58 AM

I will cut you, both of you. I will cut you in a way that will alter your gender. ;)

Force13b

06-28-2010, 01:55 PM

Thanks sweeite :kiss: Now lets hope it works :rofl: Haven't really driven the car all that hard for other reasons, so we'll see in a week or so I guess.
lol sounds like my car.

vex

06-28-2010, 04:54 PM

I will cut you, both of you. I will cut you in a way that will alter your gender. ;)

You'll give them boobs?!

Max777

06-28-2010, 10:59 PM

...edit

lost cause.

TitaniumTT

06-28-2010, 11:06 PM

undo that edit or I'll add you to my cut list ;)

MaczPayne

06-29-2010, 12:05 AM

He'll cut you like he cut sodium out of his diet!

EJayCe996

06-29-2010, 04:19 PM

I'm pretty sure the sugar more than filled the role of sugar AND sodium :lol:

TitaniumTT

07-01-2010, 08:02 PM

lol sounds like my car.

Sounds like all rotaries actually...... we all have a sickness I guess.

You'll give them boobs?!

I will ass-rape you with his dismembered member ;)

He'll cut you like he cut sodium out of his diet!

Sodium is bad, mmkay

I'm pretty sure the sugar more than filled the role of sugar AND sodium :lol:

:rofl: You should see the top layer of my recylcing bin.... all RedBulls.... and I bought two more for tonights all nighter :o16:

Sidenote - bought an '88 Black 'Vert the otherday. I now own 4 cars..... only one of them runs :smilielol5: Although if all goes well the FC will be running by dawn, the 'vert by the end of the month, then maybe I can focus on the FD. Oh wait, no I can't :rofl:

vex

07-01-2010, 09:44 PM

I will ass-rape you with his dismembered member ;)

So if it's a dismembered member, is it a non-member? Cucumber? Or a lion? PS, my intake manifold is starting to tick me off. Give me some ideas: I'm so f'ing close I can smell it. It smells like pure win, but I just can't get that last little bit to make it all work out. I keep getting oscillation across all runners if I alter the rebounding wall geometry. I may have to take more drastic measures in geometry modification, but I don't want to poop up your thread with this talk.

TitaniumTT

07-02-2010, 04:53 AM

Yeah, back on topic, I just took a nap on my creeper :rofl:

vex

07-02-2010, 08:06 AM

That means you're getting old.

helghast7

07-02-2010, 05:46 PM

^really? shit i guess im old too :lol:

Max777

07-02-2010, 10:50 PM

Dude, I just remembered something! All your posts about paint are invalid... you painted your car SILVER!
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l296/black_cat19_123/Random%20stuff/smiley.jpg

TitaniumTT

07-03-2010, 11:26 AM

That means you're getting old.

That's it, I'ma gonna cut you

^really? shit i guess im old too :lol:

:rofl: I woke up staring at a muffler, first though - Fuck, it wasn't a dream.

Dude, I just remembered something! All your posts about paint are invalid... you painted your car SILVER!

Silver is the best color to paint a car. <- That's a period, meaning this discussion is over;) The darker the better too. White shows all the dirt, black shows all the sins, red is just cliche and gay on sports cars, blue is for traitors :suspect: and anything else is just wierd

So went to the dyno yesterday - something is still fucking me in the fuel dept. I think it may actually be the reg, gotta do some digging. Fuel PSI was just falling off up high and we almost blew the engine. She hit 1L under boost @5800rpm. not good but she's still running great.

Coils and injectors are awesome. Making more power with less boost at lower revs. Highest we saw was 301 wheel @ 5500-6000 ish at under 7 lbs. last year the first session netted 313 wheel with 7.5lbs @ 7k. So, not a total failure but still, Brian is beyond pissed.

Dave - gonna be calling you shortly when I get back into town on Monday to see about picking up that block. Picked up the 'vert last week. Prob gonna sideline my FC and get the Vert done first. Need to step away from the FC for a bit I think.

Silver86

07-03-2010, 11:33 AM

yep... silver FTW :leaving:

Max777

07-03-2010, 05:02 PM

sarcasm FTL! :seeya:

EJayCe996

07-03-2010, 08:28 PM

:rofl: I woke up staring at a muffler, first though - Fuck, it wasn't a dream.

I keep trying to picture this... but the image is always.... bad.... :o11:

helghast7

07-04-2010, 12:02 PM

:rofl: I woke up staring at a muffler, first though - Fuck, it wasn't a dream.

LMAO! almost positive ive done something like that too

blue is for traitors :suspect:

whaaa??? :( :o10:

Dave - gonna be calling you shortly when I get back into town on Monday to see about picking up that block. Picked up the 'vert last week. Prob gonna sideline my FC and get the Vert done first. Need to step away from the FC for a bit I think.

cool man, yet another thing for my family to be happy about :lol:

if you do end up coming down, might as well have you look through my whole inventory see if theres anything else you need :rofl:

TitaniumTT

07-04-2010, 05:55 PM

sarcasm FTL! :seeya:

Hey, it wasn't teal, how was I to know??? ;)

I keep trying to picture this... but the image is always.... bad.... :o11:

:rofl: Yeah, I MAY have worded that wrong

LMAO! almost positive ive done something like that too

whaaa??? :( :o10:

Bah, Motego blue is more of a green, I was referring to IBM FC's ;)

cool man, yet another thing for my family to be happy about :lol:

if you do end up coming down, might as well have you look through my whole inventory see if theres anything else you need :rofl:

Definately, thanks much man. I'll let you know when work permits, it'll be sometime this week hopefully. My FC was a very bad girl on friday, she's getting a time out. I need to step away from that PJ for a while and focus on the other three in the pipeline. Looks like no Monticello for me this July :(

helghast7

07-05-2010, 04:20 AM

Green?!?!?!? Whaaa???? :o10::o10::o10:

EJayCe996

07-06-2010, 10:24 PM

Totally off topic but....

Yeah. You can do it. Just dont listen to these homo's telling you that you can't or it wont work. They're ignorant or old or both.

http://www.rx7club.com/showpost.php?p=10095582&postcount=4

For some reason when I read this, I thought of you.... no offense :rofl:!!!!!

I like how he gives his "professional opinions" yet is location is the SC/NC Boarder :rofl:

TitaniumTT

07-07-2010, 06:14 AM

Are you trying to get me perma banned again? :rofl:

WE3RX7

07-07-2010, 02:05 PM

Bah, Motego blue is more of a green, I was referring to IBM FC's ;)

Watch it yankie... :cuss:

TitaniumTT

07-07-2010, 07:43 PM

Hey! You don't have an accent nor have you ever attempted to drop a "usedtacould" You're as yankee as I am..................

More specifically I was referring to LS1 powered IBM FC's........ :suspect:

Happy ya damn yank?

2gslse

07-07-2010, 09:04 PM

Y'all are both yanks.

helghast7

07-07-2010, 11:26 PM

bahhhh!! help me brian!!! i cant take this anymore!!! this is the 5th vaccume cap thats blown off this week!!!!!

trade ya all my fc engine parts..and anything else you can fit in your truck for that fucking y pipe welded shut :)

TitaniumTT

07-07-2010, 11:49 PM

It's a done deal my friend. We Just need to find the time. I got fucked at work, one of the summer dumbasses we hired failed his piss test so now we're down a douche. Sched is right now (in 24 hr time) 8:00-21:00 tomorrow, 8:00-23:00 Friday, 9-17:00 saturday then I'm heading out on the boat with my new lady friend, 13:00-21:00 Sunday..... I THINK I'm on 8:00-16:00 monday... does Monday work for you? Otherwise my next "day off" is next Thursday. I use that term loosely becuase I'll be there ~6:00 for my captaining/side job stuff. 12 boats need my love that day.

TitaniumTT

07-07-2010, 11:49 PM

Y'all are both yanks.

:smilielol5:

WE3RX7

07-08-2010, 05:45 AM

Hey! You don't have an accent nor have you ever attempted to drop a "usedtacould" You're as yankee as I am..................

Happy ya damn yank?

True - I was raised by yanks, lol.

Is his car really IBM though? I'll have to investigate... it looked more "bright" to me, but maybe its just the photos, lol...

WE3RX7

07-08-2010, 05:52 AM

Just investigated - he's "SI Blue with heavy coats Ferrari clear", I know my IBM quite well :)

So now, glad we cleared that up :rofl:

TitaniumTT

07-08-2010, 08:05 AM

I stand corrected oh yankee heavenly figure of color decoding:bowdown:

;)

helghast7

07-08-2010, 05:26 PM

helghast7

07-08-2010, 05:29 PM

btw you have no idea, well you might, how frustrating it is to be doing a 3rd gear oull on high boost(14psi so its not even that damn high) and suddenly you hear a little baby pop and your boost drops down to 7psi because you just lost half your pressure from a .25 cent sized hole in the piping...aghaghaghaghaghagh!!!! ehh im better now....just venting lol

TitaniumTT

07-08-2010, 11:41 PM

yep, monday is perfect, i get out of work at ummm....hmm its been a while, let me see if i got this right... 17:00..is that 5? lmao! so even if you head out about then ill definetly beat you

how would you weld it though? you would pick up the part or do you have ancient chinese secrets?

Ancient German secrets........ it's called just fucking do it ;) You show up at my place, we pull the y-pipe from your car, I pull the nipple off.... yeah, I'm kinky like that, I cut a piece of AL out, weld it in, bolt y-pipe back on, off ya go. Eventually I make it out to Jersey to collect block. Haven't even started on the 'vert yet, too effing busy. Like I said, I need a clone or a minion.

btw you have no idea, well you might, how frustrating it is to be doing a 3rd gear oull on high boost(14psi so its not even that damn high) and suddenly you hear a little baby pop and your boost drops down to 7psi because you just lost half your pressure from a .25 cent sized hole in the piping...aghaghaghaghaghagh!!!! ehh im better now....just venting lol

:lol: we'll get it worked out. Imagine being on the dyno all day upping the boost, upping the boost, upping the boost and never getting past 11psi. :banghead: Drive home, go to sleep, wake up @ 3 in the morning saying, you fucktard!!!!! motherfucker where's my laptop.......... yup...... I left the charge relief valve open from the breakin miles, that's why she couldn't build boost.... motherfucker.

Or..... driving down the road and everytime you get into boost the turbo backspins and sounds like the meow of a dying cat becuase one vac line was pinched off (happend last week) Or doing a 3rd gear pull and it sounds like your car is farting becuase the 4ply silicone has worked it's t-bolt clamp loose and the silicone is flapping around like a porn stars abused labia.

I hate cars.............

Worst is still putting all that effort into the fuel cell and still having psi issues.... then not having time for 10 days to pop the truck, pull the stereo, and check one fucking wire :banghead:

Again, I hate cars..........

project86

07-09-2010, 12:08 AM

the more i read turbo threads the more i hate turbos :) i dont think you hate cars... you just hate the snail that goes on it ;)

helghast7

07-09-2010, 01:34 AM

nahhh its definetly the cars^ im with brian on that one

just over the winter i did a full rebuild, all new top of the line cryo treated seals, RA blacks with race springs, solid sides

engines perfect....last month..secondaries die, fix that, 2 days later first vaccum cap blows off, last friday, trans blows, 4 caps later, i still cant build boost and i sound supercharged

i now currently own 2 cars with blown transmissions

and i cant wait to see what else breaks :)

TitaniumTT

07-09-2010, 09:11 AM

the more i read turbo threads the more i hate turbos :) i dont think you hate cars... you just hate the snail that goes on it ;)

pfffffffffffftttttt.... n/a's suck. Literally :rofl:

nahhh its definetly the cars^ im with brian on that one

just over the winter i did a full rebuild, all new top of the line cryo treated seals, RA blacks with race springs, solid sides

engines perfect....last month..secondaries die, fix that, 2 days later first vaccum cap blows off, last friday, trans blows, 4 caps later, i still cant build boost and i sound supercharged

i now currently own 2 cars with blown transmissions

and i cant wait to see what else breaks :)

Damn dude, how'd you blow the trans in the FD? Are you going to be able to make it here with the FD on Monday?

Nismo

07-09-2010, 09:15 AM

pfffffffffffftttttt.... n/a's suck. Literally :rofl:

Seriously, I went from my 250ish whp Stock Turbo FC, and no I am driving a 100% Stock N/A FC, even has 3 Cats, and an Air pump, it's so god damn lethargic, at least it handles well, and stops awesome, can't wait to install the 929 Booster and Master!

helghast7

07-09-2010, 04:28 PM

apparently i didnt install the rear main bearing correctly...it lasted like 4 months and 8*** odd miles and now all of a sudden it decideds to crap out...have no fear...im installing a new(used) trans this weekend

i swear my car is alive and it is a woman pms'ing permanently

helghast7

07-09-2010, 04:36 PM

ohh almost forgot...if there is a positive to this whole mess..its that i will now be able to use my C.C. and my reverse lights will work :P

if anyone wants to take a stab at why they didnt before

project86

07-09-2010, 08:23 PM

project86

07-09-2010, 08:26 PM

pfffffffffffftttttt.... n/a's suck. Literally :rofl:

We'll see how you feel about that statement when my "real" project is done :o11::001_005::suspect:

helghast7

07-10-2010, 01:27 AM

^well they do...hook up a boost gauge to an n/a car does it ever leave vaccum? :lol:

project86

07-10-2010, 02:03 AM

fair enough..........

David Jerome

07-15-2010, 01:32 PM

Nismo

07-15-2010, 02:27 PM

thats why you do the exhaust, remove the air pump and port! :icon_tup:

Why? Next year it's going to have a 13B-RE nestled in it's bosom, I have a REVII exhaust I would love ton install but the cat back is 3" and the cat is not... I'm just enjoying it, get back to basics, Maybe do a few track days, and be ready for next year when it will be retarded!

helghast7

07-15-2010, 04:49 PM

Helghast7, The supercharged sound is likely one of the two following issues. 1. A loose clamp on one of the couplers or 2. a loose connection on the y-pipe to turbos connection pointes. The metal gaskets will make a whining/whistling sound and the two reasons above will answer why you are not seeing boost. I have seen the factory IC pipes make this same noise when they have a tiny whole but usually it is one of hte issues above.

i no what the noise is, we put the car on the lift for a bit

although i have been having issues with my eifini 7 pipe and vaccum caps blowing off under pressure, i have yet to have any couplers on my new setup blow off, and as stated, i have the eifini y pipe, which doesnt have connections like the usdm one

but the cap issue was fixed recently thanks to brian, ;)

the noise is actually my differential...i must have blown it doing a highway pull, and its been slowly getting worse to the point were its louder then my exhaust... and to those that have heard my car, know thats a challenge in itself :rofl:

and because of that im going to put the car to sleep for the year soon, i need a break from the repairs, its just not fun right now because of it

TitaniumTT

07-15-2010, 09:25 PM

Seriously, I went from my 250ish whp Stock Turbo FC, and no I am driving a 100% Stock N/A FC, even has 3 Cats, and an Air pump, it's so god damn lethargic, at least it handles well, and stops awesome, can't wait to install the 929 Booster and Master!

:rofl: Yeah, I'm not going to be too trilled with the 'vert until I get the boost under the hood. Oh well, like you said, it will handle decent and stop reasonably well.

We'll see how you feel about that statement when my "real" project is done :o11::001_005::suspect:

It'll still suck, just suck alot more air than most other engines and thus make more power ;)

Helghast7, The supercharged sound is likely one of the two following issues. 1. A loose clamp on one of the couplers or 2. a loose connection on the y-pipe to turbos connection pointes. The metal gaskets will make a whining/whistling sound and the two reasons above will answer why you are not seeing boost. I have seen the factory IC pipes make this same noise when they have a tiny whole but usually it is one of hte issues above.

He's got something going fubar in his rear end. I have heard that sound before and it is pretty messed up. My personal favorite is the cat meow when shifting in a little boost when you reverse some vac lines and the turbo back-spins..... that one is awesome.

Why? Next year it's going to have a 13B-RE nestled in it's bosom, I have a REVII exhaust I would love ton install but the cat back is 3" and the cat is not... I'm just enjoying it, get back to basics, Maybe do a few track days, and be ready for next year when it will be retarded!

What are you running for a turbo/ecu in that silly little toy of yours?

i no what the noise is, we put the car on the lift for a bit

although i have been having issues with my eifini 7 pipe and vaccum caps blowing off under pressure, i have yet to have any couplers on my new setup blow off, and as stated, i have the eifini y pipe, which doesnt have connections like the usdm one

but the cap issue was fixed recently thanks to brian, ;)

the noise is actually my differential...i must have blown it doing a highway pull, and its been slowly getting worse to the point were its louder then my exhaust... and to those that have heard my car, know thats a challenge in itself :rofl:

:rofl: Yeah it is......... Sounds good though, just loud

and because of that im going to put the car to sleep for the year soon, i need a break from the repairs, its just not fun right now because of it

Are you fucking kidding me man?!?!??! Seriously????? Pull the diff and see what the issue is. It could be a simple fix and if not, snatch another diff and enjoy it for the rest of the summer.... I mean damn, I have yet to enjoy my car and I'm still plugging away on her. There's at least 5 months of good driving weather left and the best 2 are yet to come! I hope to have the FC up and ready for the best weather in Oct/Nov and a few days in Dec :smilielol5: Ya know, just in time to take it apart again:party:

Nismo

07-15-2010, 09:40 PM

What are you running for a turbo/ecu in that silly little toy of yours?

Haltech E6X :( Not working from now til October, so I can't afford a new one, but It will happen eventually!

TitaniumTT

07-15-2010, 10:33 PM

EJayCe996

07-15-2010, 11:06 PM

Make a sexy harness harness with some mil-spec connectors on the firewall so that when you upgrade all you need to do is build from the ECU to the firewall. I know someone with all the tooling to make that happen :suspect:

Well move over, OLD MAN, because the new generation........... Is trying to see what you're doing so I can learn! :rofl:

helghast7

07-16-2010, 03:04 AM

Are you fucking kidding me man?!?!??! Seriously????? Pull the diff and see what the issue is. It could be a simple fix and if not, snatch another diff and enjoy it for the rest of the summer.... I mean damn, I have yet to enjoy my car and I'm still plugging away on her. There's at least 5 months of good driving weather left and the best 2 are yet to come! I hope to have the FC up and ready for the best weather in Oct/Nov and a few days in Dec :smilielol5: Ya know, just in time to take it apart again:party:

i just cant do it right now, dont have the funds for anything, because if i pull it(which i was intending on doing anyways) i want to do things right, which means:

rebuild it, if possible, replace the bushings with poly ones from pettit(loves me some poly mounts)

i wana ReRemove the trans and put my unit back in because its in better condition, BUT i need new throwout and pilot bearings, i wana buy the puller/installer for that fucking pilot bearing because i hate doing it the other way

i just dont have the cash for it, its too much breaking all at once

ive had the car tuned for like 3 weeks now and havent been able to keep it running properly for over 3 days straight

secondaries, diff, trans, y-pipe

plus i really have to change the windshield since the cracks are spreading, and now i noticed the end tanks on the spoiler are starting to separate like everyone else that has my wing

if you looked at my bank account you would understand :rofl:

but like i said before, i dont mind that shit breaks, you no it gives me something to do

whats killing me is that its happening all at once

so i decided to repair the fc since i have all the parts already, get her back up and running, and rotate my fd back into hybernation, back up on jackstands she goes, pull the diff out take it to work and see whats inside

TitaniumTT

07-16-2010, 05:18 PM

Well move over, OLD MAN, because the new generation........... Is trying to see what you're doing so I can learn! :rofl:

Why you snot nosed, wet behind the ear little motherfu...... ok come here and check it out

i just cant do it right now, dont have the funds for anything, because if i pull it(which i was intending on doing anyways) i want to do things right, which means:

rebuild it, if possible, replace the bushings with poly ones from pettit(loves me some poly mounts)

I don't know how expensive the poly bushings are but the bearings aren't all that expensive at all. You'd be surprised...... at least for the FC

yeah just cheched..... ~$200

i wana ReRemove the trans and put my unit back in because its in better condition, BUT i need new throwout and pilot bearings, i wana buy the puller/installer for that fucking pilot bearing because i hate doing it the other way

Pilot & T/O bearing are like $70. The removal tool can be had for $25 at auto bone and 5 minutes with a grinder and you're all set ;)

i just dont have the cash for it, its too much breaking all at once

ive had the car tuned for like 3 weeks now and havent been able to keep it running properly for over 3 days straight

secondaries, diff, trans, y-pipe

plus i really have to change the windshield since the cracks are spreading, and now i noticed the end tanks on the spoiler are starting to separate like everyone else that has my wing

if you looked at my bank account you would understand :rofl:

Yeah, that's the problem with modding things..... we talked about it the last time you were here.

but like i said before, i dont mind that shit breaks, you no it gives me something to do

whats killing me is that its happening all at once

so i decided to repair the fc since i have all the parts already, get her back up and running, and rotate my fd back into hybernation, back up on jackstands she goes, pull the diff out take it to work and see whats inside

I think it's wise to have something reliable becuase just like you're going through, when shit breaks it's nice to just be able to say, fuck it, not now and get back into the DD and not worry about it. but when it's your DD and you need to get to work the next morning it just adds a level of stress that's completely not necessary and detracts from the whole hobby aspect of it. Not to mention you're a fricken ASE tech, you deal with broken shit all the time and then you get to go home and HAVE to deal with it if you want to get to work the next day. I was in a very similar situation when i was younger and I didn't do anything but maintenance to the FC for YEARS becuase of it. One of the reasons that I'm hesitant to get into it full time. Shoe makers shooes man.....

2gslse

07-16-2010, 05:55 PM

One of the reasons that I'm hesitant to get into it full time. Shoe makers shooes man.....

That is exactly why you should keep work life diffrent from you hobbies,my dad taught me how to work on my cars since I was old enough to be in the garage but always told me I don't want you doing this for a living. Great advice and I will follow it unless I get hard up for $ and a job.

helghast7

07-17-2010, 07:22 AM

actually, the t/o bearing ranges from 80-100 for the fd pilot-10 seal-10

ive done the autozone thing before and i hate it, it always comes out in pieces, one time it took out everything but the outer case..we spent hours grinding it out so i decided im getting the real one which is like 85

poly mounts are 100, i havent checked on the bearings yet but if there around 200 then im just getting a new/used diff, which a tested perfect condition, under 30k miles diff can be had for 350 shipped

and yea i know what you mean about a DD, ive actually been trying to save for a cheap civic....but the bitch just wont let me save

TitaniumTT

07-17-2010, 09:37 AM

That is exactly why you should keep work life diffrent from you hobbies,my dad taught me how to work on my cars since I was old enough to be in the garage but always told me I don't want you doing this for a living. Great advice and I will follow it unless I get hard up for $ and a job.

Yeah I hear ya man, I really do. But a big part of me wants to try it again.

actually, the t/o bearing ranges from 80-100 for the fd pilot-10 seal-10

ive done the autozone thing before and i hate it, it always comes out in pieces, one time it took out everything but the outer case..we spent hours grinding it out so i decided im getting the real one which is like 85

I checked MT before I posted those prices, not sure if you have a MC account.

I refuse to buy anything internal from autobone anymore. Hell, the last T/O bearing that I bought was strait from Mazda and it came out in pieces. :banghead: Almost got me stuck in jersey too :cuss:

poly mounts are 100, i havent checked on the bearings yet but if there around 200 then im just getting a new/used diff, which a tested perfect condition, under 30k miles diff can be had for 350 shipped

That's a REALLY tough call. Yeah it's low mileage, yeah it should be fine, but still, you don't know until you crack it open. In 5k it could start to whine like a little bitch and then you're back to square 2.... 2 being now you have two diffs and you can rebuild one and then just swap it out.

I dunno, tough call. I bought an used S4 TII diff for $150 just so I could have a back-up for my FC in case I REALLY don't dig the 4.3 gears I'm not totally shit out of luck, and also so I have one kicking around if I ever decide to turbo the 'vert. Which I would still like to do.

and yea i know what you mean about a DD, ive actually been trying to save for a cheap civic....but the bitch just wont let me save

Pedal your ass around town... literally and figurativaly. Side jobs are fantabulous. Luckily I have 4 days off in a row so I had no problem working both my days off. THe amount of cash I can make on one day off will net me in cash what my weekly net is. So by taking on a full day of side jobs, I effectively double my salary. Nearly tripled it this week. Work Week starts on Sat, ends on Friday, so I had Thurs & friday off from last week, and Sat sun off from this week. Shitty thing is now I'll be on for 10 days strait until the end of the next cycle.

BTW - how do I get in touch with Abdul about those seats? Gonna spend some time working the FC today, figure out what the fuck is wrong with the fuel system (again :banghead::beatdeadhorse5:) Then it's deep into the 'vert tomorrow. Picking up my buddies new truck from Dave on Thurs so I'll be able to swing by soon and grab all that stuff and then off to LI for that Atihun hood I scored.

WE3RX7

07-17-2010, 12:10 PM

Why buy that hood when you basically built your own??? Is there a vert build thread I'm not aware of :)

BTW... I'd like to jump up to KDR at some point in late July or early August for some roller time, not sure what would work best for you, but weekends are all I've got!

Oh... and big win on the side job conversation... if anybody is able and willing, its a great way to earn extra $$$.. my car habit is almost 100% supported by side work and I just landed a crap ton of it after leaving my last employer... should get the FC project moving again....

TitaniumTT

07-17-2010, 05:22 PM

Why buy that hood when you basically built your own??? Is there a vert build thread I'm not aware of :)

There is a 'vert, but no build thread as of yet. Actually starting to tear the car apart tomorrow if I can get this FC at least figured out today. Tidying up a bunch of wiring now to make the testing a TON easier, and also facilitate fuel pressure relief and prime etc etc etc.

I was going to build another hood, but looking at the amount of time that went into the first one, well, it doesn't make sense when you figure out what I paid, or will pay for this one. Better to spend my time working then working on the hood. In other words, I spent WAY more than 4 hours building, and that's about what I would have to work to pay off this hood......... if that makes sense.

BTW... I'd like to jump up to KDR at some point in late July or early August for some roller time, not sure what would work best for you, but weekends are all I've got!

If w/e's are all you've got, set something up soon. Spoke with Dave a few days ago and he;s booked solid through 7/26. So pick a w/e and I'll do my best to get it off. I'll actually hit you up with some dates when there are local auto-x's/track days if ya wanna stay up and represent ;)

Oh... and big win on the side job conversation... if anybody is able and willing, its a great way to earn extra $$$.. my car habit is almost 100% supported by side work and I just landed a crap ton of it after leaving my last employer... should get the FC project moving again....

Yup, been there, done that.... don't have to worry about it now though ;) Now I'm just greddy :smilielol5:

Max777

07-17-2010, 09:14 PM

T.... you are really going to hate me for posting this, but I got a new toy for you to play with!

It's called the ISIS chassis wiring system.

http://www.isispower.com/

For 900 bones, this seems like the best idea ever! I am a volvo tech, and this system is really simmilar to the way the volvo electric system is laid out, yet a LOT simpler because of the lack in relays, and a ton of other shit.

PS: I'm hoping I didn't just open pandora's box....

helghast7

07-18-2010, 02:22 AM

yea i do the occasional side job from time to time, though its not enough support the bitch...

and what has 4.30 gears? fd comes out the box with 4.10s unless you have been getting automatic diffs

come to think of it im almost positive every manual trans diff for rexes have 4.10s

and idk man, its just shit all over the place....first step im doing is getting the fc back up, after that the bitch goes back up on stands to pull my diff and bring it to work to see whats going on in there

after that its anyones guess, and im not really worried about it right now, im still plenty young ive got all the time in the world to work on it and drive it, i wana do other things

for me the biggest thing was owning one, im definetly not selling her, but if she stays up on stands for a year, hell even 2 years it would be fine with me because shes still mine

like ive said before, unlike most people i know that own one, i never bought it for the power, first time i ever saw one it was off, saw it when i was walking home from school parked on the street, was red with white wheels, the sexiest car ive ever seen, shitted on everything on the block, and from that point i knew i had to have one, and now i do..hell the guys i saw sold it, so im still the only one in my area. and its a nice feeling knowing how exclusive you are, ive got like lambo status lmao

oh just pm me ill give you his cell number, hes not very good at picking up, but if you cant get a hold of him let me know ill give him a couple rings

TitaniumTT

07-18-2010, 02:14 PM

yea i do the occasional side job from time to time, though its not enough support the bitch...

and what has 4.30 gears? fd comes out the box with 4.10s unless you have been getting automatic diffs

come to think of it im almost positive every manual trans diff for rexes have 4.10s

Side jobs are great, I've got about a dozen recurring ones :D

I bought a set of 4.30's off a forum member who originally got them from Mazdacomp.... thanks again man if you'r reading this.

The GTUs had a 4.3 I believe.

and idk man, its just shit all over the place....first step im doing is getting the fc back up, after that the bitch goes back up on stands to pull my diff and bring it to work to see whats going on in there

after that its anyones guess, and im not really worried about it right now, im still plenty young ive got all the time in the world to work on it and drive it, i wana do other things

Yeah I hear ya, I agree that the first thing to do is get the FC back up and running again. I've got to get out to you and pick that stuff up. I'm heading out into the shop now to clean up and start yanking the engine out of the 'vert.

oh just pm me ill give you his cell number, hes not very good at picking up, but if you cant get a hold of him let me know ill give him a couple rings

Cool, thanks man:icon_tup:

TitaniumTT

07-18-2010, 03:14 PM

Not really all that complicated really, and not the most accurate but at least now I definately know what the fuck is going on with the ole' FC. Here's what I did yesterday

I started off by permanently mounting all the relays in the trunk and building a brace that fills the void behind the drivers side wheel where the harness travels. In here I installed two SPDT switches underneath some safety covers. The idea being that the common terminal runs to terminal 86 on the fuel pump relays. The top terminal (which is contacted when the covers are closed) is connected to the turn-on from the MoTeC and the bottom terminal is connected to an ign hot source. The thought being that the pumps can be completely manipulated with the engine off and the engine not running. Or the engine running to de-pressurize the lines, drain the surge tank etc etc etc...... So after that was done and all tidy I moved on to actually testing the pumps.

While I admit this isn't the most effective way to do this, it did give some pretty valuable insight as to what was actually going on. When I wired up the fuel pumps I added an extra hot/grnd that ran outside the cell so that I can see exactely what voltage the pumps where seeing when running. Pretty trick I thought. So I went to RS and bought a second set of test leads that I added some metri-pack connectors to so everything plugged in and I didn't have to tape shit together or hold test leads. So with that in place I moved onto th reconfiging the fuel cell.

The first thought that Dave had outside bad voltage was that the surge tank wasn't getting enough fuel into the surge tank. I was pretty convinced when the thing lean surged on me and pressure went to almost nothing on the drive home. On the return from the surge tank to the main cell I put in a length of clear hose so I could visually see the fuel moving around. It took a while as I'm pretty sure the surge tank was dry but within a few seconds the clear line purged a few bubbles and then was solid fuel with the engine running. Cool, so the surge tank is getting filled, cross that off.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8580&stc=1&d=1279483963

Next I disconnected the feed into the surge tank off the Denso and ran it to an external reg set for ~43psi and dumping right into my 5 gal Jerry can.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8581&stc=1&d=1279483963

I turned on the denso pump and timed how long it took to fill the 5 gallon jerry. ou can see in one of the pics the amount of V it's getting and the voltage drop. About 12.5 on the dash (VERY close to what the battery sees) and 12.34 on the multimeter. Bryan from BNR confirmed my numbers @ 292lph.... fucking sweet! Ok, so lets cross that off becuase that pump will never really see any pressure so the flow will be more than enough. Alright, now lets test the bosch pump.

I reconnected the feed from the Denso to the surge tank, but left the clear hose installed. I did this becuase there is only 5 qt's in the surge tank, and I'm looking to fill 5 gallons, so the Denso needs to be running as well. The fuel from the regulator on the back of the engine will be dumped into the 5 gallon jerry just so this is basically 100% flow out of the surge tank, with no return, so I wanted to make sure that the Denso would definately keep up.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8583&stc=1&d=1279483963
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8584&stc=1&d=1279483963

I disconnected the return from the regulator and hooked that line up to the dump into the 5 gal jerry and capped the return line on the firewall. The reason for capping it was becuase the Denso would fill the surge tank, and then I'm sure there will be a little pressure and that will push up the return line and spew all over the bay, so that fucker got capped. I fired up both pumps and started the clock.. Voltage at the Bosch pump was less, around 11.7 and the dash saw 12.2 12.3V Sadly the mighty 044 put out a lathargic 165 lph at 59psi rail pressure..... FAIL. A far cry from the 300lph it claims and 200 lph @ 70 psi and 12V.

http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=8582&stc=1&d=1279483963

Just to satisfy everything that needed to be satisfied I stuffed a mechanical gauge in before the filter and turned the pumps back on. I saw over 70psi before the filter and some pretty nasty fluctuations, as in betweel 60 and 80 psi. The gauge was boucing all over the place. I swapped the filter for a BRAND new one adn repeated the test. The time dropped by a whopping 3 seconds :rofl: and the psi dropped a few psi as well Average seemed to be about high 60's now maybe around 70. So the filter isn't really to blame for all of this... I think the pump really is shit. It's probably just this pump though, not all Boschs.

So, thoughts opinions on what the next step is? I'm not convinced that the Bosch pump is going to be the best for me. I'm really leaning towards a second Denso pump in the surge tank. 292lph is defintately going to be enough especially if I drop the base pressure.

If it's still not enough I could bump the voltage. Something that I'm not opposed to doing via a Kenne Bell BAP but without the boost sensor. I would rather the voltage be constant and not varying all over the place becuase there will be a time delay, or so I'm convinced of. I'd rather set it to 14V and just leave it there at all times.

So, what is hands down the best intank QUIET fuel pump out there. People sweat by the A'pexi BNR32 but that sells for about $400, I could buy the BAP and a Denso pump for that price.

MaczPayne

07-18-2010, 11:26 PM

I replied to my thread on the denso pump, but I'll put it here as well

I got mine brand new for $190 shipped from www.TitanMotorsports.com

Everyone else was backordered, the folks there had it shipped to my door in about 5 business days (It'll be quicker to you since they're in Florida)

I initially purchased it for 149.99 shipped from http://densofuelpump.com/index.html , but got a refund when I found out it was backordered. If you can wait, these guys are cheaper.

TitaniumTT

07-18-2010, 11:46 PM

Thanks Johnson, but when I checked Titan, they had it for $235?

And that Denso Fuel Pump.com place that you're referring to has a neat little disclaimer underneath it... did you see that? These guys right?

http://densofuelpump.com/index.html

Please note that these fuel pumps do not come in Denso boxes. They are Denso fuel pumps modified by Kyosan in Japan. 100% authentic guaranteed.You can read a review of them here

These guys are the ones I bought it from previously - http://www.rallysportdirect.com/shop/shopping_cart.php

One Time fit kit has the pump, lines, and filter.... I might just end up going that route again.

MaczPayne

07-19-2010, 12:05 PM

WE3RX7

07-19-2010, 07:28 PM

Damn B.... Why not just build your own pump though :)

TitaniumTT

07-19-2010, 08:02 PM

I bought it from their ebay store, actually. They had it for $190 shipped, comes in an authentic Denso Box with all the fittings, adaptors, and new fuel filter.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Denso-Fuel-Pump-950-0155-Supra-2jzgte-1993-1998-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5888b22ebcQQitemZ38025 0500796QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries#ht_3324wt_954

NICE... thanks much man. I actually called Rallysport today to order one but then they quoted me $50+ for overnight shipping which I was not pleased at especially when thier website says $30. I cancelled the whole thing and decided that I'm going to drop the cell tonight and pull both pumps. Tomorrow when my sealing washers are in from McMaster i'm going to rebuild the Surge tank mount for the Denso 1020 that I have and drop that in and put the cell back in place. In the lift pumps place will be the old Cosmo pump that I bought @ last years DGRR that I THOUGHT was bad.... I'm not convinced anymore. I'm going to flow test that one and if it flows >280+ lph @ 10psi, it will stay in place. If not, I'll order a new pump and drop it in. The cell doesn't have to drop to get to the lift pump, only the pressure pump...... and of course that's the one that's bad:banghead:

Damn B.... Why not just build your own pump though :)

I thought about it, there's no pump out there that flows better than 300lph that's quite............. MAYBE.... I have a plan. @ 70 psi the Denso is right on the cusp of being overdrawn by the injectors. If this is the case, it's time for a Kenne Bell BAP to get it up and over the hump.

It's really got me thinking about WTF I'm going to do about the FD though. That's going to need more fuel than the Denso can put out. That'll be an interesting project.... twin in surge tank Denso's :rofl:

Ya know, when you think you've done everything, and over done it right....... this shit happens..... Oh well. I'm heading out to Dave's on Thrusday and kinda want to have this little issue sorted out so next wed (next day off) I can pull the engine :lol: make a few changes, bolt on the 6-spd, swap the 4.3 in and then maybe finally get over the dyno hump. When are you looking to head out Bill?