Rotary Aviation Rebuild Kits as good as atkins?

wb123 · 02-23-2009, 02:18 AM

I am in the market for a rebuild kit.

I am leaning towards the rotary aviation rebuild kit because it provides everything that atkins provides and for $200 cheaper.

I am going with the RA classic seals if i do choose to go with this package.

The one thing I like alot about atkins is the organized fashion they ship their product.

I have never ordered from rotary aviation, and I just wanted some input and success stories or negative input or whatever it may be about rotary aviation...

need RX7 · 02-23-2009, 03:14 AM

I'm also wondering the same thing. I'm looking to build and port an FC motor in the spring, but my budget isn't exactly huge. I've heard the RA apex seals tear up housings, does that apply to all of them, or is that just the 'super' seals?

GreatShamanGT · 02-23-2009, 01:49 PM

I heard that their Apex Seals are really rough on the housings because they are too strong. Don't take my word for it, but I'd rather get the Atkin's Seals. Peter Farrell got 709hp out of them and they are still running.

RotaryRoadRage · 02-23-2009, 05:03 PM

if it were me.. i would just buy from dan.. the only other seal i would think about using would be a 2 peice mazda seal.. + i think dan is having a special on alot and is giving us like a 10 - 15% off deal.. i would check into what all he has to offer.. but that's just me. never heard anything bad about the ra seal's , i just don't think I would use them..

chris

Atkins Dan · 02-23-2009, 05:52 PM

well keep in mind that their master rebuild kit is all going to be based off the 1986 model. so you wont get any gaskets you need for a 93 car. so if you wanted the same rebuild kit, we actually offer it for 899.95 here http://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/pr...0&cat=0&page=1
and it comes with more gaskets than theirs does. also their parts are substandard. they would send you a strip of rubber for the corner seals that you would have to cut yourself to fit and also offer water jacket seals that were not by any stretch of the imagination designed with the rotary engine in mind, they are mcmaster and car parts ordered right from the catalog with roughly the same diminsions but not close enough. again keep in mind that you would be receiving only minimal gaskets from RWS not nearly enough to complete an engine installation.
whereas we offer the whole entire gasket kit.

Now if you order through me I will give a 10% discount on the order plus shipping & Pay-pal fees..

Dan

Signal 2 · 02-24-2009, 02:23 PM

I'd go with OEM.

***Herblenny*** · 02-24-2009, 02:44 PM

I would go with Atkins vs. RA. I've also heard their seals eats up housing... If that's true, not only you have to replace the housings (to save $200) but could also need rebuild sooner.

Also, Support the vendors who's actually supporting this forum!! Why help out the vendors who don't give a damn!

Atkins Dan · 02-24-2009, 02:46 PM

Also for those that want a master kit that is ALL OEM parts I can do that too no problem it will cost more..

Dan

wb123 · 02-24-2009, 04:44 PM

Atkins for the win!

GorillaRE · 02-26-2009, 10:44 AM

RA seals = 8 out of 10 housings will be JUNK after using them. Atkins cryo seals are great for the average build!

-J

02-23-2009, 02:18 AM	#1
wb123 The Newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Rotary Aviation Rebuild Kits as good as atkins? I am in the market for a rebuild kit. I am leaning towards the rotary aviation rebuild kit because it provides everything that atkins provides and for $200 cheaper. I am going with the RA classic seals if i do choose to go with this package. The one thing I like alot about atkins is the organized fashion they ship their product. I have never ordered from rotary aviation, and I just wanted some input and success stories or negative input or whatever it may be about rotary aviation...

02-23-2009, 03:14 AM	#2
need RX7 Clean S4 Nutswinger Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Sterling Heights, MI Posts: 485 Rep Power: 18	I'm also wondering the same thing. I'm looking to build and port an FC motor in the spring, but my budget isn't exactly huge. I've heard the RA apex seals tear up housings, does that apply to all of them, or is that just the 'super' seals? __________________ -Ted -1986 Mazda RX7 Sport [DD/beater]: engine finally let go at 205k. parts car status. -1986 Mazda RX7 base [resto-mod project]: S5 n/a swap in progress. Last edited by need RX7; 02-23-2009 at 03:17 AM.

02-23-2009, 05:03 PM	#4
RotaryRoadRage Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 244 Rep Power: 17	if it were me.. i would just buy from dan.. the only other seal i would think about using would be a 2 peice mazda seal.. + i think dan is having a special on alot and is giving us like a 10 - 15% off deal.. i would check into what all he has to offer.. but that's just me. never heard anything bad about the ra seal's , i just don't think I would use them.. chris __________________ 89 TII black on black Gamer tag - graveconditions

02-23-2009, 05:52 PM	#5
Atkins Dan Premium Vendor Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 265 Rep Power: 18	well keep in mind that their master rebuild kit is all going to be based off the 1986 model. so you wont get any gaskets you need for a 93 car. so if you wanted the same rebuild kit, we actually offer it for 899.95 here http://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/pr...0&cat=0&page=1 and it comes with more gaskets than theirs does. also their parts are substandard. they would send you a strip of rubber for the corner seals that you would have to cut yourself to fit and also offer water jacket seals that were not by any stretch of the imagination designed with the rotary engine in mind, they are mcmaster and car parts ordered right from the catalog with roughly the same diminsions but not close enough. again keep in mind that you would be receiving only minimal gaskets from RWS not nearly enough to complete an engine installation. whereas we offer the whole entire gasket kit. Now if you order through me I will give a 10% discount on the order plus shipping & Pay-pal fees.. Dan __________________ 82 SuperCharged rx-7 {my toy not the daily driver anymore now under restoration} 88 B2200 rotary powered with a 7inch Camden SuperCharger !RIP! Jan/4/2007 2001 626 5-speed 80k on the clock all stock {Truck replacement} 2005 MAZDA6 V6 WAGON now that is a pimping ride all stock for the moment.. Paid off WWW.AtkinsRotary.com

02-24-2009, 02:23 PM	#6
Signal 2 Viable Fossil Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Mid-West Posts: 199 Rep Power: 18	I'd go with OEM. __________________ Jim VR R1 FD

02-23-2009, 01:49 PM	#3
GreatShamanGT Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 99 Rep Power: 17	I heard that their Apex Seals are really rough on the housings because they are too strong. Don't take my word for it, but I'd rather get the Atkin's Seals. Peter Farrell got 709hp out of them and they are still running.

02-24-2009, 02:44 PM	#7
*Herblenny* Founder/Administrator/Internet Pitbull :) Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 644 Rep Power: 10	I would go with Atkins vs. RA. I've also heard their seals eats up housing... If that's true, not only you have to replace the housings (to save $200) but could also need rebuild sooner. Also, Support the vendors who's actually supporting this forum!! Why help out the vendors who don't give a damn! __________________ DGRR 2013 - Year of 13B www.DealsGapRotaryRally.com http://www.facebook.com/Herblenny

02-24-2009, 02:46 PM	#8
Atkins Dan Premium Vendor Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 265 Rep Power: 18	Also for those that want a master kit that is ALL OEM parts I can do that too no problem it will cost more.. Dan __________________ 82 SuperCharged rx-7 {my toy not the daily driver anymore now under restoration} 88 B2200 rotary powered with a 7inch Camden SuperCharger !RIP! Jan/4/2007 2001 626 5-speed 80k on the clock all stock {Truck replacement} 2005 MAZDA6 V6 WAGON now that is a pimping ride all stock for the moment.. Paid off WWW.AtkinsRotary.com

02-24-2009, 04:44 PM	#9
wb123 The Newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 8 Rep Power: 0	Atkins for the win!

02-26-2009, 10:44 AM	#10
GorillaRE Outside the "box"...... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New Orleans Posts: 123 Rep Power: 18	RA seals = 8 out of 10 housings will be JUNK after using them. Atkins cryo seals are great for the average build! -J __________________ " Life is full of trials and tribulations, misery is optional." -Mark D. White RIP man, we love you... We specialize in Rotary, Japanese, European and Exotic performance forced induction cars. We also custom build 3/4 multi-rotor engine setups for the street or track. We are the only authorized Fujita Engineering dealer in the USA. Call for authentic FEED parts. Call for ECU tuning. http://www.facebook.com/pages/Gorilla-Race-Engineering/43530496660