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Old 03-17-2015, 08:50 PM   #1
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Ign-1, Ign-1a, Ign-1cd

Hi Peter, your brackets look great!

I am of GREAT concern with your "pictured" coil boot design.

The coil boot MUST by long enough to contact the steel of the fitted spark plug.
YOUR design allows for an Air Gap that will conduct the spark AWAY from the inside of the plug!

The use of MY IGN-x (a coil family), your pictured IGN-1A AND the IGN-1CD, MUST be kept to HIGH STANDARD.

Thus please correct your boot design.

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Old 03-17-2015, 09:05 PM   #2
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Hi Peter, your brackets look great!

I am of GREAT concern with your "pictured" coil boot design.

The coil boot MUST by long enough to contact the steel of the fitted spark plug.
YOUR design allows for an Air Gap that will conduct the spark AWAY from the inside of the plug!

The use of MY IGN-x (a coil family), your pictured IGN-1A AND the IGN-1CD, MUST be kept to HIGH STANDARD.

Thus please correct your boot design.

Lance


Are you saying that not covering the whole ceramic of the plug and the boot directly contacting the metal it will cause spark away from the inside of the plug?
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Old 03-17-2015, 09:12 PM   #3
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There is a silicone boot extension cover to address Lances concern and any customer who wants to do that, its all supplied in each system.
NOTE: many plugs used by various people means no one boot will fit all as they interchange.

Along with Molycote 111 to full line the insides of all ridges and pockets to make it perfectly sealed.

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Old 03-17-2015, 09:21 PM   #4
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Haha not using Moly or Dielectric compound on an ignition...


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Old 03-17-2015, 09:24 PM   #5
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Haha not using Moly or Dielectric compound on an ignition...


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He means well,

All the stuff is there, the 'grease' I use since 1993 its a non hardening silicone, again there if customers want to use it.
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Old 03-17-2015, 09:27 PM   #6
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He means well,

All the stuff is there, the 'grease' I use since 1993 its a non hardening silicone, again there if customers want to use it.

Cool was wondering....
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Old 03-18-2015, 10:23 AM   #7
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Chibi, YES you are correct.

We use my CO-2 pressure chamber to "fire" a Spark Plug as it would be under the "pressure" of a running engine.

WHAT I HAVE FOUND is that the Spark Energy will LEAK out at that area causing miss-fire.

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Old 03-23-2015, 08:49 AM   #8
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So... any news on the ETA of these? Anxiously waiting as I HATE my current lead configuration!
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Old 03-23-2015, 08:52 AM   #9
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Yep, same here. . .
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Old 03-23-2015, 09:45 AM   #10
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Engine Miss-Fire Detection

The "frankenstein" effect (Carbon Tracking) WILL cause miss-fire which is VERY DANGEROUS to ANY engine.
Constant engine miss-fire causes the "trace" of a conduction path to be easily observed after MANY firings creating the ground circuit destroying the plug boot.
Many times this was the cause of a "blown-up" engine.

WE see the result of miss-fire in the GUI of my ECU-882C after counting the acceleration rate of my 60-2 crankshaft TW.
This is at the first miss-fire hopefully before engine damage can occur.
We have used this method for OVER THIRTY years, as due all OEM's from 2006 on as the patent expired, its the law.

MY hope for those users here that may fit my coils is NOT to explode their engine.

Thus my offer stands, I will gladly test a boot/wire/etc. in my CO-2 chamber without damage to a running engine.

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Old 03-23-2015, 12:26 PM   #11
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The "frankenstein" effect (Carbon Tracking) WILL cause miss-fire which is VERY DANGEROUS to ANY engine.
Constant engine miss-fire causes the "trace" of a conduction path to be easily observed after MANY firings creating the ground circuit destroying the plug boot.
Many times this was the cause of a "blown-up" engine.

WE see the result of miss-fire in the GUI of my ECU-882C after counting the acceleration rate of my 60-2 crankshaft TW.
This is at the first miss-fire hopefully before engine damage can occur.
We have used this method for OVER THIRTY years, as due all OEM's from 2006 on as the patent expired, its the law.

MY hope for those users here that may fit my coils is NOT to explode their engine.

Thus my offer stands, I will gladly test a boot/wire/etc. in my CO-2 chamber without damage to a running engine.

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What coils are those Lance?

Perhaps start a different thread where you can go deep in the weeds on this subject (as you're obviously passionate about it) without necessarily derailing the current thread in the process.

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Old 03-23-2015, 09:19 PM   #12
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IGN-1A Coil Boot & Bracket Design

Hi Levi, THIS thread is about Peters coil brackets AND boots for the IGN-1 coil family.
The brackets he machines look to be fine !

HOW am I "in the weeds" ?

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So... any news on the ETA of these? Anxiously waiting as I HATE my current lead configuration!
Yes I know........
Had a slight delay, have been doing heat treatment of springs (job in itself) as I do all of them myself.
Hoping this time next week I'll smash up a completed assembled IGN-1A unit and for those who have asked me for COP Adaptors and complete units will then take an order and get there items made.

To make them after the first runs (which I am testing) is pretty straight forward process, hopefully more speedy.

I appreciate your patience. I am as keen as all of you!
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Old 03-27-2015, 12:40 AM   #15
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Stuff looks great! now. . .
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