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RICE RACING 01-04-2015 01:22 AM

Rice Racing M&W CDI COP Set-up
 
Here is the superior M&W ignition system with perfect mounting system :hurray:

Enjoy.
Fits spot on with no load bearing on plugs, all bespoke RICE RACING!

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The ULTIMATE!

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Bit of background for people, I developed COP systems for the 13B-REW many years ago, field proven, this is one of my old systems below (CDI set up)
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RRCOP13BREW-MWCOI-006-VM Vertical mounting
$POA
NOTE: M&W CDI version can run ANY type of M14x1.25 rotary suitable spark plug, from ghetto to don mega

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RRCOP-IGN1A-A adaptors for separate supply
$POA *each* so for 13B = $POA[/size]

Quote:

Originally Posted by almoststockfc (Post 297162)
Could you explain what comes in your kit? Bracket, hardware, etc. etc.


NOTE: M&W CDI version comes with bespoke rubber boots and electrical connection springs (x 4)
2 x Coil spacer/mounts
(FRONT and a REAR mount)
1 x Engine bracket/mount
(mounts off center plate)
Fasteners for the mounts x 3 NOTE: M&W CDI version has engine mount and coil mount fasteners only
Instruction sheet, with CAD pictures of fitment, and instructions



Hope to hear from you on email.



NOTES: on ratings and options fully spec'd up system with coils and or CDI boxes etc
Getting asked allot of this on email so best to post here:
[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]CDI v's ghetto inductive (all up costs)
NOTE: all systems ratted to run constant duty street or road race applications

CDI RR option 1: 250mJ
M&W coils (x 4) + (Pro Drag 2 CDI box x 2) + RR COP kit
= ~$2800US
The TOP SPEC CUSTOM RICE RACING M&W set up, this comes configured with Hi/Lo switch input into each CDI box
150mJ & 250mJ
These are rated for constant use and NO EXCUSES
Tune the engine, dont let it tune you!


http://i.imgur.com/HR67z5r.jpg

CDI RR option 2: 115mJ
M&W coils (x 4) + (Pro14R CDI box x 1) + RR COP kit
= ~$2100US

Monkman33 01-04-2015 02:23 PM

I was just holding my ign 1a coild and they are weighty. Im not sure I trust that small mounting point to support them. I love the idea. Just would like to see a more robust mounting method.

TitaniumTT 01-04-2015 02:28 PM

I suspect the COP Adapter would take up a lot of the load plus there isn't that much torque on them outside of the mounting point.

Monkman33 01-04-2015 03:20 PM

But the single screw mounting point doesn't look like it would prevent the coils from vibrating. I would rather the cop link would not bear any weight. Since spark plugs dont really like to hold mich weight either.

Fendamonky 01-04-2015 03:27 PM

Count me in..

speedjunkie 01-04-2015 04:03 PM

I'm interested as long as it will fit with my current setup, specifically the water injection pump mounted on the frame. I don't remember how much room I have there and I won't be able to measure it for a few more months.

RICE RACING 01-04-2015 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkman33 (Post 295951)
But the single screw mounting point doesn't look like it would prevent the coils from vibrating. I would rather the cop link would not bear any weight. Since spark plugs dont really like to hold mich weight either.


Hi MM,

Good point.
Just to clarify.

The mounting bolt very little bending loads, the weight of the coils is supported by the recess in the back of the mount :)
It mounts against the back of the boss, the COP engine bracket takes all of the loads :)

To give you an idea of how strong a bolt is, I lift out a whole 13B-REW (130kg) with a single M8 bolt with an eyelet :)

Either way the design is 'over designed by a safety factor of 100 :smash:

Short of jacking up the car front the COP brackets you will never ever break them :smash:

RICE RACING 01-04-2015 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkman33 (Post 295951)
But the single screw mounting point doesn't look like it would prevent the coils from vibrating. I would rather the cop link would not bear any weight. Since spark plugs dont really like to hold mich weight either.

Each 'F' and 'R' assembly does not take any weight through the bolt either as they sit on the extension leg from the COP engine bracket, just to clarify ;)


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RICE RACING 01-04-2015 04:29 PM

Forgot to say rotation load is countered by legs of 'F' and 'R' mounting tabs as they are 0.1mm (less) between each other :) thus the mounting bolts M5x0.8 x 2 are fine and the engine mount is M6x1 x 1 single OEM position.

It's a refined design, I'm totally happy with, each system is guaranteed for LIFE to never ever fail electrically or mechanically in any application, but I will not warrant you lifting out the motor using the COP brackets :P

RICE RACING 01-04-2015 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Monkman33 (Post 295946)
I was just holding my ign 1a coild and they are weighty. Im not sure I trust that small mounting point to support them. I love the idea. Just would like to see a more robust mounting method.

Yes when 2 of them are together they are even heavier !
This is why I spend allot of time making my COP system as strong as it is beautiful :)
Tough, durable, but not stupidly over engineered where it does not need to be..... If there is anything else you want me to clarify I am happy to do so ;)

Dannobre 01-04-2015 06:03 PM

I'd give it a go.......Selling the brackets and plug adapters separate from the coils?

Any idea of price? That would help get more on board...

RICE RACING 01-04-2015 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dannobre (Post 295963)
I'd give it a go.......Selling the brackets and plug adapters separate from the coils?

Any idea of price? That would help get more on board...

Yeah it will be a full mounting kit.
*no spark plugs or coils or engine included :)

PRICE $TBA

Don't want to pull a figure out of my ass, if people want to put up what they are will to pay I will see if I can meet that, but remember its custom precision work here...............

hybrid G 01-04-2015 07:44 PM

I am interested in acquiring a kit.

What's the eta on production ?

RICE RACING 01-04-2015 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hybrid G (Post 295976)
I am interested in acquiring a kit.

What's the eta on production ?

Q1 2015

I have a few things concurrently going, highest on list is STEEL SCIENCE apex seals then this comes second.

Once things are back into action in next couple of weeks I aim to finalize a cost and time frame, touch wood it will be sooner rather than later :dunno:

I'll do my best :Angel_anim:

FC Zach 01-04-2015 08:30 PM

This is very nice, I would love to have one and would be willing to pay whatever your price is (within reason) but unfortunately I don't believe this kit will work for my application. . Is this for REW only? That mounting point doesn't look familiar on my center iron.


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