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Old 01-04-2015, 01:22 AM   #1
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Exclamation Rice Racing M&W CDI COP Set-up

Here is the superior M&W ignition system with perfect mounting system

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Fits spot on with no load bearing on plugs, all bespoke RICE RACING!



The ULTIMATE!








Bit of background for people, I developed COP systems for the 13B-REW many years ago, field proven, this is one of my old systems below (CDI set up)




















RRCOP13BREW-MWCOI-006-VM Vertical mounting
$POA
NOTE: M&W CDI version can run ANY type of M14x1.25 rotary suitable spark plug, from ghetto to don mega


RRCOP-IGN1A-A adaptors for separate supply
$POA *each* so for 13B = $POA[/size]

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Could you explain what comes in your kit? Bracket, hardware, etc. etc.

NOTE: M&W CDI version comes with bespoke rubber boots and electrical connection springs (x 4)
2 x Coil spacer/mounts
(FRONT and a REAR mount)
1 x Engine bracket/mount
(mounts off center plate)
Fasteners for the mounts x 3 NOTE: M&W CDI version has engine mount and coil mount fasteners only
Instruction sheet, with CAD pictures of fitment, and instructions



Hope to hear from you on email.



NOTES: on ratings and options fully spec'd up system with coils and or CDI boxes etc
Getting asked allot of this on email so best to post here:
[COLOR="DeepSkyBlue"]CDI v's ghetto inductive (all up costs)
NOTE: all systems ratted to run constant duty street or road race applications

CDI RR option 1: 250mJ
M&W coils (x 4) + (Pro Drag 2 CDI box x 2) + RR COP kit
= ~$2800US
The TOP SPEC CUSTOM RICE RACING M&W set up, this comes configured with Hi/Lo switch input into each CDI box
150mJ & 250mJ
These are rated for constant use and NO EXCUSES
Tune the engine, dont let it tune you!




CDI RR option 2: 115mJ
M&W coils (x 4) + (Pro14R CDI box x 1) + RR COP kit
= ~$2100US






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Old 01-04-2015, 02:23 PM   #2
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I was just holding my ign 1a coild and they are weighty. Im not sure I trust that small mounting point to support them. I love the idea. Just would like to see a more robust mounting method.
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Old 01-04-2015, 04:35 PM   #3
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I was just holding my ign 1a coild and they are weighty. Im not sure I trust that small mounting point to support them. I love the idea. Just would like to see a more robust mounting method.
Yes when 2 of them are together they are even heavier !
This is why I spend allot of time making my COP system as strong as it is beautiful
Tough, durable, but not stupidly over engineered where it does not need to be..... If there is anything else you want me to clarify I am happy to do so
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Old 01-11-2015, 06:12 PM   #4
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I was just holding my ign 1a coild and they are weighty. Im not sure I trust that small mounting point to support them. I love the idea. Just would like to see a more robust mounting method.
Stress and deflection analysis done, see first page
as said its tough as f*ck
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New M&W CDI coil (COI-006) arrived today.

Will design a 13BREW system around these in vertical fitment, these will not need a COP adaptor since its female on the coil end so will design a bespoke spring arrangement with rubber boot, similar to what I did with the Dynatek CDI coils (only similar that its a linear end on end fitment.

IF no COP adaptor will need new coil bracket spacers.
This is a preferred option.
Will NOT be able to 'interchange' these easily.
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Count me in for one of these! RRCOP13BREW-IGN1A-VM
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O.K.

What I will do is when I officially have the PP version in my hand will come back here and 'ACTIVATE' the purchase request, at the moment I am starting the production process of the *-VM version and the COP adaptors as #1 priority.
Some components getting made as this goes up here

Touch wood will have pricing to follow.

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I suspect the COP Adapter would take up a lot of the load plus there isn't that much torque on them outside of the mounting point.
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But the single screw mounting point doesn't look like it would prevent the coils from vibrating. I would rather the cop link would not bear any weight. Since spark plugs dont really like to hold mich weight either.
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But the single screw mounting point doesn't look like it would prevent the coils from vibrating. I would rather the cop link would not bear any weight. Since spark plugs dont really like to hold mich weight either.

Hi MM,

Good point.
Just to clarify.

The mounting bolt very little bending loads, the weight of the coils is supported by the recess in the back of the mount
It mounts against the back of the boss, the COP engine bracket takes all of the loads

To give you an idea of how strong a bolt is, I lift out a whole 13B-REW (130kg) with a single M8 bolt with an eyelet

Either way the design is 'over designed by a safety factor of 100

Short of jacking up the car front the COP brackets you will never ever break them
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But the single screw mounting point doesn't look like it would prevent the coils from vibrating. I would rather the cop link would not bear any weight. Since spark plugs dont really like to hold mich weight either.
Each 'F' and 'R' assembly does not take any weight through the bolt either as they sit on the extension leg from the COP engine bracket, just to clarify












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I'm interested as long as it will fit with my current setup, specifically the water injection pump mounted on the frame. I don't remember how much room I have there and I won't be able to measure it for a few more months.
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Forgot to say rotation load is countered by legs of 'F' and 'R' mounting tabs as they are 0.1mm (less) between each other thus the mounting bolts M5x0.8 x 2 are fine and the engine mount is M6x1 x 1 single OEM position.

It's a refined design, I'm totally happy with, each system is guaranteed for LIFE to never ever fail electrically or mechanically in any application, but I will not warrant you lifting out the motor using the COP brackets :P
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