no rear defoger

warwickben · 03-10-2008, 04:34 PM

hey guys like i said i do not have a rear defoger.
i dont have any of the wire's that run from the switch to the back glass. i drove around like that last summer and it was all right but sucked some time. is there like any after market setup.

mar3 · 03-10-2008, 09:38 PM

Are you saying "factory delete" no wires back there or did some idjit rip them out? There's no aftermarket kit that I know of...you just have to resolder the wire's tab to the glass pad...tin the wire side and you'll cut down the amount of heat the glass contact pad will see when you resolder the two together.

warwickben · 03-11-2008, 03:53 AM

some one riped them out i have the switch under the radio still tho but the wires are caped off.

mar3 · 03-11-2008, 04:56 PM

Oh, I thought you meant at the hatch, not under the dash. Go butcher a junkyard carcass and then rebuild your harness.

warwickben · 03-11-2008, 05:01 PM

lol let me start over.

i have the wire's and switch in the dash and that it.
i need the wires that go from the dash to the glass and that thing that gets stuck to the glass.
all so i have yet to find another sa in a junk yard in new england.

mar3 · 03-11-2008, 05:10 PM

I know of an SA in a Kennedale salvage yard but I couldn't get to it before Thursday, weather permitting...I'll check to see what it has wiring-wise if you want me to buy it off the guy.

warwickben · 03-11-2008, 05:21 PM

if you dont mind checking for me.

mar3 · 03-15-2008, 08:57 AM

I got the interior trim posts and the wires leading up to the tabs you see on the outside of the trim...two problems.

One, the coiled section of wire is an FB feature...I'm not sure but the spades in the 1980 trim piece suggests to me that the wire was soldered onto the glass and that the female tab is part of that wire hanging off the glass for the SA's...the FB is turned around.

Second, the wiring. It is a single wire running underneath both trim pieces...both of those wires go into the main harness for the rear lights which is a 7/16" bundle of wires...I cut back the electric tape covering about two inches on that harness to expose more of the defroster wire going into that bundle and then made my cut there.

Question....do you even have the switch that for the defroster up front?

This car's exterior body is in really good shape...a shame it's in the salvage yard.

warwickben · 03-16-2008, 01:14 PM

yeah i have the switch in the dash. i need every thing from that to the glass.

mar3 · 03-16-2008, 08:17 PM

If you have the switch in the dash, then there sould be a connector with wire behind that. That will go into a main harness and that harness will go to the back, so what you need is to make the final connections in back and it's not a plug in affair, unfortunately.

Here's what I got...the green arrow indicates that tab got split...the other one is in good condition...

top view...

bottom view with wire attached...

In the back area, the harness that has the connectors for the tail-lights will also have the wires you need to connect to these trim pieces. Whether they are cut back there or coiled and never used, I don't know...worst case scenario has some chump just cutting them right at the harness, so only a tiny stub with a corroded core will be left to try to find. What the color of the wire should look like and how big it is can be found by simply looking at the trim pieces...it doesn't change as it goes into the harness.

You just need to solder and shrink wrap the trim wire to the wires you find in that rear harness and that part is done. The actual glass on the donor car had been stripped clean, so I don't know what that side looks like. Hopefully you still have your wires attached to your glass.

There is no aftermarket kit, so salvage yard is the only option...here's what these two items cost me to get...John's yard 10 minutes from my casa...

Let me know what you want to do, this is really your only option to restore the stock defroster on the glass. If you lived closer, I could've gotten all this done for you.

If you look behind your switch and there is no connector or wire (which I find highly unlikely, but possible...) back there, then let me know and I'll get the piece coming out of the main harness on Thursday...I should be able to convince John it should have gone with the trim pieces and get it for free.

mar3 · 03-20-2008, 11:08 PM

***bump***have you had a chance to check out if the 'capped' wires have the other cut end sticking out of the main under-dash harness? I've got these two trim pieces ready to go to get the back section done for you...

warwickben · 03-21-2008, 04:59 AM

sory about not getting back to you ive been little sick. i havnt been able to really check but i think they just cut the wires after they enter the trim .

mar3 · 03-21-2008, 09:34 AM

So you'll have to dig out wires on both ends of the harness...ouch.

OK, I'll hang onto these and box them up until you're feeling better.

Mario III

warwickben · 03-21-2008, 03:44 PM

how much will it cost me 01876 is my zip. i can paypal you the money next week. is 15/20 bucks enough for your trouble ? iam a broke 22 year old hence why i have a frist gen not a 3rd lol.

the trim parts look right. i checked it seems they must of feel off or some thing and the person cut the wire in the trim. so ill just have to splice them in and then solder them to the glass. i installed my new rear shocks and respeed adjustable springs yesterday so i had to remove most of that junk. the main harness that goes to the back is on the pass side of the car. so ill have to run a wire from the drivers side to the pass side is that correct or is my whole wireing job.

on a side note iam glad i did not go and redo the body this year and worry about every thing else next year. i found so much shit broken iam spurise i didnt crash the car when i had it on the road. sorry about spelling and being a noob.

mar3 · 03-21-2008, 08:24 PM

Well, they cost me $20 + tax and I've gotta ship it, but I'm thinking $20 will be just fine...it's unusual to see that year car in a junkyard and then have you asking at the same time, so I'm thinking Divine Providence and today is Good Friday. I'll give you a week to build funds, which will also give me a couple of days to pack it right since these are flimsy plastic trim pieces and we all know how UPS treats light packages, right?

I'll PM you when it's time for action.

03-10-2008, 04:34 PM	#1
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	no rear defoger hey guys like i said i do not have a rear defoger. i dont have any of the wire's that run from the switch to the back glass. i drove around like that last summer and it was all right but sucked some time. is there like any after market setup.

03-10-2008, 09:38 PM	#2
mar3 Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: So Arlington, TX ! iTrader: (0) Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	Are you saying "factory delete" no wires back there or did some idjit rip them out? There's no aftermarket kit that I know of...you just have to resolder the wire's tab to the glass pad...tin the wire side and you'll cut down the amount of heat the glass contact pad will see when you resolder the two together.

03-11-2008, 03:53 AM	#3
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	some one riped them out i have the switch under the radio still tho but the wires are caped off.

03-11-2008, 04:56 PM	#4
mar3 Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: So Arlington, TX ! iTrader: (0) Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	Oh, I thought you meant at the hatch, not under the dash. Go butcher a junkyard carcass and then rebuild your harness.

03-11-2008, 05:01 PM	#5
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	lol let me start over. i have the wire's and switch in the dash and that it. i need the wires that go from the dash to the glass and that thing that gets stuck to the glass. all so i have yet to find another sa in a junk yard in new england.

03-11-2008, 05:10 PM	#6
mar3 Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: So Arlington, TX ! iTrader: (0) Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	I know of an SA in a Kennedale salvage yard but I couldn't get to it before Thursday, weather permitting...I'll check to see what it has wiring-wise if you want me to buy it off the guy.

03-11-2008, 05:21 PM	#7
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	if you dont mind checking for me.

03-15-2008, 08:57 AM	#8
mar3 Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: So Arlington, TX ! iTrader: (0) Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	I got the interior trim posts and the wires leading up to the tabs you see on the outside of the trim...two problems. One, the coiled section of wire is an FB feature...I'm not sure but the spades in the 1980 trim piece suggests to me that the wire was soldered onto the glass and that the female tab is part of that wire hanging off the glass for the SA's...the FB is turned around. Second, the wiring. It is a single wire running underneath both trim pieces...both of those wires go into the main harness for the rear lights which is a 7/16" bundle of wires...I cut back the electric tape covering about two inches on that harness to expose more of the defroster wire going into that bundle and then made my cut there. Question....do you even have the switch that for the defroster up front? This car's exterior body is in really good shape...a shame it's in the salvage yard.

03-16-2008, 01:14 PM	#9
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	yeah i have the switch in the dash. i need every thing from that to the glass.

03-20-2008, 11:08 PM	#11
mar3 Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: So Arlington, TX ! iTrader: (0) Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	*bump*have you had a chance to check out if the 'capped' wires have the other cut end sticking out of the main under-dash harness? I've got these two trim pieces ready to go to get the back section done for you...

03-21-2008, 04:59 AM	#12
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	sory about not getting back to you ive been little sick. i havnt been able to really check but i think they just cut the wires after they enter the trim .

03-21-2008, 09:34 AM	#13
mar3 Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: So Arlington, TX ! iTrader: (0) Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	So you'll have to dig out wires on both ends of the harness...ouch. OK, I'll hang onto these and box them up until you're feeling better. Mario III

03-21-2008, 03:44 PM	#14
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	how much will it cost me 01876 is my zip. i can paypal you the money next week. is 15/20 bucks enough for your trouble ? iam a broke 22 year old hence why i have a frist gen not a 3rd lol. the trim parts look right. i checked it seems they must of feel off or some thing and the person cut the wire in the trim. so ill just have to splice them in and then solder them to the glass. i installed my new rear shocks and respeed adjustable springs yesterday so i had to remove most of that junk. the main harness that goes to the back is on the pass side of the car. so ill have to run a wire from the drivers side to the pass side is that correct or is my whole wireing job. on a side note iam glad i did not go and redo the body this year and worry about every thing else next year. i found so much shit broken iam spurise i didnt crash the car when i had it on the road. sorry about spelling and being a noob.

03-21-2008, 08:24 PM	#15
mar3 Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: So Arlington, TX ! iTrader: (0) Posts: 44 Rep Power: 0	Well, they cost me $20 + tax and I've gotta ship it, but I'm thinking $20 will be just fine...it's unusual to see that year car in a junkyard and then have you asking at the same time, so I'm thinking Divine Providence and today is Good Friday. I'll give you a week to build funds, which will also give me a couple of days to pack it right since these are flimsy plastic trim pieces and we all know how UPS treats light packages, right? I'll PM you when it's time for action.