Official: DGRR Intro to EFI tuning seminar..

[Herblenny]

Its official!

We'll be offering an intro to EFI tuning.

The class will be 2 x 2 hour sessions (total of 4 hours) and will cover basics to EFI tuning.

The class will cover almost everything you need to know about rotary engine and get you familiar with EFI system. This class is a water down seminar of Chuck Westbrook seminar. It will cover the basics but will not go in depth into using Apexi PFC. It will provide enough information for you to be familiar with any stand alone and able to be comfortable knowing what to look for and how to set up.

Cost will be $60/person and class will be limited to 20 people MAX.

If you are interested, please post here and I'll post payment info later..

Here is a quick outline of the class

Intro Tuning seminar – Approx 4 hours.

I. Basic Rotary Engine
a. Types – 10A, 12A, 13B, 13B-RE cosmo, 13B-REW, 20B, and Renesis
b. Assembly of the engine (rotor housing, eshaft, rotors, etc)
c. Apex seals, sides, corner seals, etc
d. Cooling system and Oil system
e. Mechanical movements of rotors
II. Ignition/Timing
a. Mechanical side of timing – crank angle, ECU, ignitor, coils, wires, sparks
III. Porting Basics
a. Describe different ports – Street, Bridge, True Prepherial, and Renesis Prepherial.
b. Basic port timing
IV. Turbo Basics
a. Turbo System Basics (Cover IC, BOV, Wastegate, Manifold, etc)
b. Single vs Twin
c. Seq. vs Non-Seq
V. Fuel System Basics
a. Pumps, Injectors, pressure regulator,
b. Injector duty and how it all works together
VI. ECU Sensors
a. Importance of all the sensors
VII. ECU basics
a. How it monitors and controls sensors
b. Importance of ECU parameters
VIII. Basic Tuning
a. Data logging
b. Analyzing Data
c. Tuning on a Dyno vs Street

This class will be great for those thinking about tuning, getting tuning done, or just to learn more about how rotary cars work.

[fikren]

sign me up please

Jonathan

[Herblenny]

I'll start a list!

1. fikren


The way we are going to do this is split it into two days...

Day one will be April 12th, 2008 (Saturday) from 9AM -11AM - Engine Basics

Day two will be April 13th, 2008 (Sunday) from 9AM- 11AM - ECU basics

This way it will give people to enjoy the event and hang out.

[WE3RX7]

Sweet - I remember you mentioning this a while back and I'm down.

I should mention, even if you feel that you have a good foundation for tuning and rotaries, I've noticed sometimes these classes are a good opportunity to learn something maybe you didnt realize before or have forgot - also, the more knowledge the class has, the better the class.

Count me in!

1. fikren
2. WE3RX7

[dregg100]

1. fikren
2. WE3RX7
3. dregg100

[classicauto]

I'll bite.

Do we paypal you herblenny? Or can we just pay whe nwe hsow up?

1. fikren
2. WE3RX7
3. dregg100
4. classicauto (Joe Phillips)

[Herblenny]

I'm still working out the details.. most likely I'll start accepting payments early with discount and also high pricing at the event. I haven't sent out a mass email about this either so, I'm just going to wait another week or so.

By the way, THIS class is designed so that those who has NO clue about rotary engines could learn more about it.. some of you with experience owning a rotary for years might find some parts to be redundant. I don't want you guys to get frustrated because everyone need to be on the same page.

Also, This is a basic tuning class.. We will give you the basics regarding what to look for and the principle behind tuning but the class will not be going into SPECIFIC ECU and SPECIFIC SOFTWARE. If we did, the lecture will be FAR too long and far too detail. But after learning tbe basics, most of you should feel comfortable about learning either on your own or thru Chuck Westbrooks notes...

Overall, this class will be FAR less than any ECU training classes.. and you'll probably learn more about rotaries..

[WE3RX7]

Still sounds good - I've never seen/heard Chuck Westbrooks, so it should be interesting.

Will the seminar have any "take-homes" out of curiosity? Not sure how he's conducting the class, etc.

[classicauto]

Originally Posted by Herblenny

I'm still working out the details.. most likely I'll start accepting payments early with discount and also high pricing at the event. I haven't sent out a mass email about this either so, I'm just going to wait another week or so.

By the way, THIS class is designed so that those who has NO clue about rotary engines could learn more about it.. some of you with experience owning a rotary for years might find some parts to be redundant. I don't want you guys to get frustrated because everyone need to be on the same page.

Also, This is a basic tuning class.. We will give you the basics regarding what to look for and the principle behind tuning but the class will not be going into SPECIFIC ECU and SPECIFIC SOFTWARE. If we did, the lecture will be FAR too long and far too detail. But after learning tbe basics, most of you should feel comfortable about learning either on your own or thru Chuck Westbrooks notes...

Overall, this class will be FAR less than any ECU training classes.. and you'll probably learn more about rotaries..

Sounds good to me.

I've got some experience in both departments but its said that the greatest practice the basics.

Plus, what the hell else am I going to do for those two hours.....I'm not missing out on a US129 cruise am I? May as well be learning something

[DRTHVDR]

Will I be confused in trying to follow along in my Microtech?

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Originally Posted by DRTHVDR

Will I be confused in trying to follow along in my Microtech?

I doubt it, I don't think they are really getting into any specific EMSs. I hope to do this as I am running a LT10s Microtech.

[fikren]

Originally Posted by DRTHVDR

Will I be confused in trying to follow along in my Microtech?

Shouldn't be, concepts are the same plus I think this is a BASIC INTRO type of deal so it probley won't even get into changing settings in the PFC.

[85rx-7gsl-se]

Microtech > PFC Jk Jk Though Microtech is pretty sweet for FCs.

[KaiFD3S]

Will you do a conference call...lol...Guess I will plan to go to this next year...I wonder if they rent out Rx7's or Rx8's...lol..

[Herblenny]

Sorry for the delayed response.. One of the fellow 7 owner stopped by and I been working on my car tonight..

Originally Posted by classicauto

Plus, what the hell else am I going to do for those two hours.....I'm not missing out on a US129 cruise am I? May as well be learning something

I'm trying to have the 1st part before we have lunch.. So, I don't think you'll miss out.. Pending how it goes, the instructor might make it shorter.. But it will most likely start at 9 and end at 11AM... As of now, you are welcome to go off to US129 after lunch

Originally Posted by DRTHVDR

Will I be confused in trying to follow along in my Microtech?

We are trying to give the basics.. I think once you get the basics.. then you might find that learning other ECU might be easy. This is to get everyone on the same page. If there are people who's interested in learning more specifics of PFC, we could have advance class later on. Advance call will be longer and more expensive... All pending interest.

Again, Im a believer of tuning your car on your own.. Why pay someone to guess on your tuning when you can datalog and get it done right.. You'll understand what Im saying at this intro class..