Broken solenoid, please identify.

aaronoverholser · 03-28-2011, 11:41 AM

I have a plastic nipple broken on this solenoid on my 86 GXL. In the picture with my hand in it where my index finger is is where the missing connection goes. Can someone teach me what the purpose is and direct me into how to find a replacement? If anyone has one I would be interested in it.

Thanks!

mazdamikes · 03-28-2011, 12:13 PM

Its is a solenoid valve and it is part of the all the emission stuff on your 7. If you need one I can get you one. It is at my sons garage in Fort Wayne, IN.

aaronoverholser · 03-28-2011, 12:31 PM

Emissions, can I delete it? I have the instructions from rotary resurrection on how to do the emissions delete on this car, I wonder if that would get rid of it...

FRED · 03-28-2011, 12:46 PM

It depends on what the color dot is on the solenoid and or what the color of the electrical plug is as to what it was used for.

All solenoids on that rack are the same item just some configured differently.

So? Was the elect plug Blue, Grey, White, Orange or what???

aaronoverholser · 03-28-2011, 12:54 PM

It was the blue electrical plug, the solenoids themselves all look the same, but your implying that maybe different colored plugs do different things.

FRED · 03-28-2011, 01:25 PM

The Blue plug is for the RELIEF solenoid and partly controls the ACV functions. Remove the plug from the Relief solenoid and the ACV dumps the airpump air into the fender instead of thur the ACV to the exhaust.

The FILTER on the solenoids can be pulled off by hand and put on any of the three plastic nipples on said solenoid.

As an example the grey or Switching solenoid is configured differently. IT's filter is on a nipple other than the nipple on the Blue (relief) solenoid.

Switching solenoid (grey) also controls part of the ACV functions.

Orange solenoid is for the FPR.

Yellow solenoid is for the EGR.

Yes they all do different things in life.

Personally I'd swap the broken Relief solenoid with the Yellow EGR solenoid. Those two are configured the same. They have different colored DOTS on the solenoids so now you will have the Blue plug going to the solenoid with a Yellow dot etc. DON'T just swap elect plugs. Swap the two solenoids. Get it???? If not say so.

About the EGR.............just cap or plug off the vacuum line that goes from that solenoid to the EGR itself and maybe plug the other vac line that went to it also. All RX can pass emisison without a EGR valve in place. Question?

FRED · 03-28-2011, 01:29 PM

Carefully stare at the Blue or the Yellow solenoids and where the filter is on those. NOW look at either the Grey or the Orange solenoids and you'll see the FILTER is on the inbd end of the grey and orange and is on the outboard end of the blue and yellow solenoids.

All the solenoids are the same item. Its where the filter is located on the solenoid that makes them different and act differently.

mazdamikes · 03-28-2011, 01:33 PM

Yes, you can remove it just follow Rotary resurrections instructions.

mazdamikes · 03-28-2011, 01:35 PM

Do you need blockoff plates? I have complete sets with Stainless hardware for $25 plus shipping

aaronoverholser · 03-28-2011, 03:44 PM

I have EGR and ACV blockoff plates from Racing Beat. I have my instructions from rotary ressurection, and I am probably going to have a few question while doing it!

So I take it some of you have followed those instructions with good outcome?

My5ABaby · 03-28-2011, 04:39 PM

I had Kevin (Rotary Resurrection) remove my emissions, which I assume is the same as his instructions. Everything works fine, except he took off the BAC valve. I'm not sure what the instructions say but there is no reason to take it off. As for everything else, I have no emissions and those solenoids are just sitting in my bay useless.

mazdamikes · 03-28-2011, 05:35 PM

The instructions are good

03-28-2011, 12:31 PM	#3
aaronoverholser In search of knowledge. Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Greenville Ohio iTrader: (0) Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	Emissions, can I delete it? I have the instructions from rotary resurrection on how to do the emissions delete on this car, I wonder if that would get rid of it... __________________ Zoom Zoom- The only car on the road that is truly something different... the RX7!

03-28-2011, 12:54 PM	#5
aaronoverholser In search of knowledge. Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Greenville Ohio iTrader: (0) Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	It was the blue electrical plug, the solenoids themselves all look the same, but your implying that maybe different colored plugs do different things. __________________ Zoom Zoom- The only car on the road that is truly something different... the RX7!

03-28-2011, 03:44 PM	#10
aaronoverholser In search of knowledge. Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Greenville Ohio iTrader: (0) Posts: 14 Rep Power: 0	I have EGR and ACV blockoff plates from Racing Beat. I have my instructions from rotary ressurection, and I am probably going to have a few question while doing it! So I take it some of you have followed those instructions with good outcome? __________________ Zoom Zoom- The only car on the road that is truly something different... the RX7!

03-28-2011, 04:39 PM	#11
My5ABaby Sigh..... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN iTrader: (6) Posts: 2,377 Rep Power: 19	I had Kevin (Rotary Resurrection) remove my emissions, which I assume is the same as his instructions. Everything works fine, except he took off the BAC valve. I'm not sure what the instructions say but there is no reason to take it off. As for everything else, I have no emissions and those solenoids are just sitting in my bay useless. __________________ 1986 Sport: 132k miles, 5A (Sapphire Blue Metallic), Tokico Blues, Racing Beat Springs, Custom LED tailights (only S4 LED tails in the world), SSR Mark II, Racing Beat exhaust, S5 black interior, Rotary Resurrection rebuild at 120k miles Community Service Manual RotorWiki "Imagination costs nothing; we could build square locomotives or fly to Mars" - Felix Wankel Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

03-28-2011, 12:13 PM	#2
mazdamikes The Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee iTrader: (1) Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Its is a solenoid valve and it is part of the all the emission stuff on your 7. If you need one I can get you one. It is at my sons garage in Fort Wayne, IN.

03-28-2011, 12:46 PM	#4
FRED Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2011 iTrader: (0) Posts: 73 Rep Power: 14	It depends on what the color dot is on the solenoid and or what the color of the electrical plug is as to what it was used for. All solenoids on that rack are the same item just some configured differently. So? Was the elect plug Blue, Grey, White, Orange or what???

03-28-2011, 01:25 PM	#6
FRED Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2011 iTrader: (0) Posts: 73 Rep Power: 14	The Blue plug is for the RELIEF solenoid and partly controls the ACV functions. Remove the plug from the Relief solenoid and the ACV dumps the airpump air into the fender instead of thur the ACV to the exhaust. The FILTER on the solenoids can be pulled off by hand and put on any of the three plastic nipples on said solenoid. As an example the grey or Switching solenoid is configured differently. IT's filter is on a nipple other than the nipple on the Blue (relief) solenoid. Switching solenoid (grey) also controls part of the ACV functions. Orange solenoid is for the FPR. Yellow solenoid is for the EGR. Yes they all do different things in life. Personally I'd swap the broken Relief solenoid with the Yellow EGR solenoid. Those two are configured the same. They have different colored DOTS on the solenoids so now you will have the Blue plug going to the solenoid with a Yellow dot etc. DON'T just swap elect plugs. Swap the two solenoids. Get it???? If not say so. About the EGR.............just cap or plug off the vacuum line that goes from that solenoid to the EGR itself and maybe plug the other vac line that went to it also. All RX can pass emisison without a EGR valve in place. Question?

03-28-2011, 01:29 PM	#7
FRED Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2011 iTrader: (0) Posts: 73 Rep Power: 14	Carefully stare at the Blue or the Yellow solenoids and where the filter is on those. NOW look at either the Grey or the Orange solenoids and you'll see the FILTER is on the inbd end of the grey and orange and is on the outboard end of the blue and yellow solenoids. All the solenoids are the same item. Its where the filter is located on the solenoid that makes them different and act differently.

03-28-2011, 01:33 PM	#8
mazdamikes The Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee iTrader: (1) Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Yes, you can remove it just follow Rotary resurrections instructions.

03-28-2011, 01:35 PM	#9
mazdamikes The Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee iTrader: (1) Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	Do you need blockoff plates? I have complete sets with Stainless hardware for $25 plus shipping

03-28-2011, 05:35 PM	#12
mazdamikes The Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee iTrader: (1) Posts: 20 Rep Power: 0	The instructions are good