My RX7SP build up

RICE RACING · 02-13-2010, 07:33 PM

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RICE RACING · 02-13-2010, 07:35 PM

Here is "finished" engine bay pics

RICE RACING · 02-13-2010, 07:37 PM

I have a ram air sealed air box for my turbo inlet, there is a carbon duct going down into the nose cone main entry that feeds the air box, I should fit up a pressure sensor there and do some high speed tests.

Well Finally ! Tested & Finished

*taken from another forum I posted up details, for reference this is a list of other cars at bottom of this page that I test to give relative performance in mild state of tune. Could will go even faster on same boost as at end of third gear it (last 5kph) got into higher EGT and the ECU increased the fueling (making engine too rich 10.6:1) to cool the EGT down (cost ~20rwkw in upper revs power), I have since redone the table to allow a higher EGT setting before automatic fuel enrichment will occur.

http://www.riceracing.com.au/vbox-ii...ing-tuning.htm

Logged the SP this morning and did some back pressure testing for SMB on the mid section street exhaust.

3rd gear 90-140 time of 3.11 seconds on 14.1psi boost pressure RR Water Injected,
Turbine speed 91068rpm
132kph = 0.443G < (10% more acceleration at same speed as ONE58 when I logged it at 12.2sec @ 118mph on street on 1.1bar boost on twins FMIC etc, driver only in car)
Turbine inlet pressure 12.0psi
Exhaust back pressure 2.63psi
6681rpm
11.36AFR
EGT 985deg C
Fuel pressure 64.98psi
Full boost = 3700rpm
Ambient temp 10.6deg C
Inlet manifold air temp on fast acting sensor = 32 deg C
need to do up the graphs, exhaust back pressure at 240rwkw on VBOX was 3.0psi @ 7500rpm (which I would class as quite good for 2 mufflers and a catalytic converter & plumb back waste gate set up).

RICE RACING · 02-13-2010, 07:39 PM

Bitches love fisting

RICE RACING · 02-13-2010, 07:48 PM

Here is the Kerb Weight of my RX7 SP (totally full fuel tank, all fluids, tools, spare tire etc, ready to run). My car has a 100+liter carbon fuel tank (you can see it just poking out the bottom left rear of the car) :smile:

2826Lb or ~1282kg as pictured.

(minus spare tire, tools, jack etc = 1264kg)

RICE RACING · 02-13-2010, 07:52 PM

This may be of interest to some people, I still like to look at spark plugs after a long drive or extended use at a new setting on the engine parameters generally half a dozen full throttle applications is enough to establish what is happening via colors etc.

For those not familiar with rotary engines: (leading plug holes have a large opening to the combustion chamber and trailing plug holes have a smaller shielded hole) I use this visual check + EGT reading to balance any differences in the fuel air balance.
FL = front leading spark plug
FT = front trailing spark plug
RL = rear leading spark plug
RT = rear trailing spark plug
NGK 10 heat range plugs are 2000km old, run a 0.020" gap, Optimax Shell 98 Ron fuel, Mobil 1 engine oil (oil injected into motor), and Sthil 2 stroke premix at 180:1 mixed in with fuel also
10.9:1 AFR with 1.20kg/cm boost and 500cc Water Methanol at 50/50 mix, engine operating temp is 77~79 deg C

In case anyone is bored! Look On !!!

Front Rotor

Rear Rotor

05rex8 · 02-13-2010, 08:42 PM

impressive!

djmtsu · 02-14-2010, 09:47 AM

Wow!

sk8world · 02-14-2010, 08:24 PM

"very" nice work!!!!!!! Some of the best forsure.

RICE RACING · 02-14-2010, 08:42 PM

Thanks for the nice words, its a pleasure to share this on overseas forums v's the rubbish in Australia (every second person here is a hater, especially in forum world).

I did what my limited skills and experience would allow, I am happy with the way it turned out and as I'm sure all of you can relate the best bit is driving her again and feeling the rotary power.

I'll keep updating when I have more stuff to share

scotty305 · 02-15-2010, 02:22 AM

Great thread and nice photos.

It's not completely clear from some of the photos, are you measuring exhaust backpressure at each of the runners, or pressure pre- and post-turbo? Also, is that a turbine speed sensor installed in the compressor housing?

RICE RACING · 02-15-2010, 03:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotty305

Great thread and nice photos.

It's not completely clear from some of the photos, are you measuring exhaust backpressure at each of the runners, or pressure pre- and post-turbo? Also, is that a turbine speed sensor installed in the compressor housing?

Turbine inlet and Turbine outlet pressure are measured, EGT is measured on each rotor.

Turbine speed sensor is in compressor housing, correct.

RICE RACING · 02-15-2010, 03:31 AM

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***Herblenny*** · 02-15-2010, 09:38 AM

Impressive..

I am intrigued by this.. Can you tell us bit more about why this type of set up?

sk8world · 02-15-2010, 02:57 PM

Phil, Not sure if you are interested in something he is doing specific but if its just the lack of wires with a coil on each plug. There was a few doing this last year on the other forum after seeing GM start this,

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RICE RACING Don Mega Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Utopia iTrader: (0) Posts: 1,688 Rep Power: 17	Here is "finished" engine bay pics

02-13-2010, 07:37 PM	#3
RICE RACING Don Mega Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Utopia iTrader: (0) Posts: 1,688 Rep Power: 17	I have a ram air sealed air box for my turbo inlet, there is a carbon duct going down into the nose cone main entry that feeds the air box, I should fit up a pressure sensor there and do some high speed tests. Well Finally ! Tested & Finished taken from another forum I posted up details, for reference this is a list of other cars at bottom of this page that I test to give relative performance in mild state of tune. Could will go even faster on same boost as at end of third gear it (last 5kph) got into higher EGT and the ECU increased the fueling (making engine too rich 10.6:1) to cool the EGT down (cost ~20rwkw in upper revs power), I have since redone the table to allow a higher EGT setting before automatic fuel enrichment will occur. http://www.riceracing.com.au/vbox-ii...ing-tuning.htm Logged the SP this morning and did some back pressure testing for SMB on the mid section street exhaust. 3rd gear 90-140 time of 3.11 seconds* on 14.1psi boost pressure RR Water Injected, Turbine speed 91068rpm 132kph = 0.443G < (10% more acceleration at same speed as ONE58 when I logged it at 12.2sec @ 118mph on street on 1.1bar boost on twins FMIC etc, driver only in car) Turbine inlet pressure 12.0psi Exhaust back pressure 2.63psi 6681rpm 11.36AFR EGT 985deg C Fuel pressure 64.98psi Full boost = 3700rpm Ambient temp 10.6deg C Inlet manifold air temp on fast acting sensor = 32 deg C need to do up the graphs, exhaust back pressure at 240rwkw on VBOX was 3.0psi @ 7500rpm (which I would class as quite good for 2 mufflers and a catalytic converter & plumb back waste gate set up).

02-13-2010, 07:48 PM	#5
RICE RACING Don Mega Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Utopia iTrader: (0) Posts: 1,688 Rep Power: 17	Here is the Kerb Weight of my RX7 SP (totally full fuel tank, all fluids, tools, spare tire etc, ready to run). My car has a 100+liter carbon fuel tank (you can see it just poking out the bottom left rear of the car) :smile: 2826Lb or ~1282kg as pictured. (minus spare tire, tools, jack etc = 1264kg)

02-13-2010, 07:52 PM	#6
RICE RACING Don Mega Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Utopia iTrader: (0) Posts: 1,688 Rep Power: 17	This may be of interest to some people, I still like to look at spark plugs after a long drive or extended use at a new setting on the engine parameters generally half a dozen full throttle applications is enough to establish what is happening via colors etc. For those not familiar with rotary engines: (leading plug holes have a large opening to the combustion chamber and trailing plug holes have a smaller shielded hole) I use this visual check + EGT reading to balance any differences in the fuel air balance. FL = front leading spark plug FT = front trailing spark plug RL = rear leading spark plug RT = rear trailing spark plug NGK 10 heat range plugs are 2000km old, run a 0.020" gap, Optimax Shell 98 Ron fuel, Mobil 1 engine oil (oil injected into motor), and Sthil 2 stroke premix at 180:1 mixed in with fuel also 10.9:1 AFR with 1.20kg/cm boost and 500cc Water Methanol at 50/50 mix, engine operating temp is 77~79 deg C In case anyone is bored! Look On !!! Front Rotor Rear Rotor

02-14-2010, 08:42 PM	#10
RICE RACING Don Mega Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Utopia iTrader: (0) Posts: 1,688 Rep Power: 17	Thanks for the nice words, its a pleasure to share this on overseas forums v's the rubbish in Australia (every second person here is a hater, especially in forum world). I did what my limited skills and experience would allow, I am happy with the way it turned out and as I'm sure all of you can relate the best bit is driving her again and feeling the rotary power. I'll keep updating when I have more stuff to share __________________ www.riceracing.com.au Worlds best Apex Seals Coil on Plug Water Injection ECU Calibration

02-15-2010, 02:22 AM	#11
scotty305 Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Culver City, CA iTrader: (0) Posts: 84 Rep Power: 17	Great thread and nice photos. It's not completely clear from some of the photos, are you measuring exhaust backpressure at each of the runners, or pressure pre- and post-turbo? Also, is that a turbine speed sensor installed in the compressor housing?

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02-15-2010, 02:57 PM	#15
sk8world 600rwhp club member. Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (2) Posts: 551 Rep Power: 17	Phil, Not sure if you are interested in something he is doing specific but if its just the lack of wires with a coil on each plug. There was a few doing this last year on the other forum after seeing GM start this, __________________ 6.? @ 11? drag pass http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wfxT2RMr7c