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01-12-2010, 08:59 AM | #1 |
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Harness install points inside FD3S??
I just wanted to see what your set up is like and where and how are the best points to install say 4-5 point harnesses.
One thread I saw was here: http://www.fd3s.net/harness.html At this point, I'm OK with drilling the floor of the car for back plates and such. Also where is a good places to buy eye hole bolts seen in thread above? Also, what belts would you guys recommend? I don't foresee myself being that competitive, but maybe to do some track day and such. I'll be installing Raceshop rollbar in next couple of months.. I've finally unpacked it from its original packing after 2-3 years
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01-12-2010, 09:05 AM | #2 |
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I've also found this link... bit too complex for me But great information about how to correctly install the belt etc..
http://www.schroth.com/installation-.../en/index.html Also here is the WRONG way to do things (got it from Schroth) Also, are all the belts by Schroth DOT approved? or just the select tuning belts?
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01-12-2010, 09:15 AM | #3 |
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I love pictures...
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01-12-2010, 10:08 PM | #4 |
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These are the local SE guys that are always out at the track to support us grassroots racers, everything you should need:
http://www.discoveryparts.com/cgi-bi...?product=hhard Ron will prob. be the guy who answers. If you are a NASA member, you get a 10% discount. I have my shoulder harnesses on my roll bar, everything else is anchored with a backplate. Prob. wouldn't hurt to have the backing plates welded in. May be overkill, but you can never be too safe.
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01-12-2010, 10:51 PM | #5 |
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The OEM belts. Unless you are going to put in something with more protection than just a rollbar the OEM setup will be the safest (and most economical / easiest to install ) setup considering you aren't even really anticipating tracking the car much (if at all) and on the street the harness is not a great idea.
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01-12-2010, 11:20 PM | #6 |
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Some great points! Agree 100% that OEM is the best solution for street use. However, if you are putting in anything over the Raceshop Rollbar, I would not drive it on the street as you have the potential to bang your head on the cage which can cause MAJOR damage to your nogin. I am sure though you were referring to track use only. As you hinted at as well, you should always use a rollbar/cage, seat, and harness together. At that point, I'd feel comfortable taking out my stock steering wheel and putting in an aftermarket one(given it is being used for the track).
The Raceshop/M2 "Rollbar" is prob. more than you are thinking it is, maybe not. Here are a couple of pictures of the one in my silver car for reference. They also make door bar's on some models. I ran this season with the M2/Raceshop roll bar, Recaro RZ seats, and G Force 6 point camlock harnesses and felt safe in the car. But who knows for sure, it was never put to the test. IMO, take it for what it's worth, I'd feel just as comfortable if not more comfortable running the M2 Raceshop roll bar, a fixed seat(whether it's your OEM Recaro's or the SPG's), and a harness on the street. As far as harness's go Phil, I'd get a 6 point. Most 4 points won't pass tech inspections at the track and the 5 points can get real uncomfortable for us guys
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01-13-2010, 12:03 AM | #7 |
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I have the Raceshop bar too and I was planning on attaching the harnesses to it. Is that not a good idea?
Oh, I think I'm confused a bit. I only have the harness bar, not the roll bar. I don't think I would fit with a roll bar unfortunately haha. How tall are you Brent? |
01-13-2010, 12:04 AM | #8 | |
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01-13-2010, 12:48 AM | #9 | ||
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I'm a little confused by your question You aren't loosing any headroom or any additional seat room with the M2/Raceshop roll bar as you can see in the pictures. Quote:
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01-13-2010, 09:29 PM | #10 | |
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Haha, I'm not quite as worried about headroom, but I have really long legs and I need all the leg room I can get. I've been in my buddy's car with his roll cage and I don't fit very well. Just wondering. Plus, if I have my seat sitting pretty straight up, my head will hit the roof, so I have to lean it back a little more. |
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10-16-2011, 11:00 AM | #11 | |
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Brent,
Just wondering how you ran the 6 point harness with the RZ seats, do they have a hole in the base to feed crotch straps through? Richard Quote:
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10-16-2011, 04:11 PM | #12 |
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Also Brent, do you still have the Race Shop roll bar and would you like to sell it? Because it seems as though Race Shop isn't in business anymore and I still have my harness bar, and it looks like this may be the only roll bar I can fit with. LOL
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11-18-2011, 07:19 AM | #13 | |
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I do not. Sorry dude. I sold it to Howard Coleman last year. I don't think Fritz has one currently, but shoot him a PM to be sure.
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