GTUs 20B N/A Build Thread

GtoRx7 · 12-24-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gmonsen

Logan... This is absolutely the best FC in the country. Interesting that you had to move the engine back, but it looks like it all worked out well.

(Let's talk next week. I'm a go on the headers...)

Gordon

Thanks Gordon, its nice to work with such a clean example of a FC! Sounds good, talk to you soon

Christopher W. · 12-26-2010, 01:53 AM

Hey Logan, updates like these are by far my favorite Christmas present..

I dig the new oil pedestal. I now see exactly what you were talking about with the radiator mount.

Logan can you snap another picture directly from the side. I want to see how much more room is left between engine and firewall..

Merry Christmas Gordon - cool new ideas going into your car.

I don't know if we would have had to of move the engine back if not for (Logan can correct me if I am wrong) the fact that we are using Nextel radiator and oil cooler plus the stock ac condenser. The oil cooler is of a design I was not familiar with....nothing like a stock FC oil cooler. It looks more like a large flat yet thin radiator. I don't believe cooling is going to be an issue. Plus I am really excited about the engine moving back. I would not of minded a couple or more inches if the shifter could have been addressed properly.

GtoRx7 · 12-28-2010, 07:06 PM

More pics, had to upload some more. Final shot of the radiator/oil cooler bolt on subframe. Next step will be getting it powder coated

Radiator and oil cooler placed into subframe. Now time to construct the upper quick release bracket. It will double as a cooling panel too

And Chris, here is the pics you requested. The 20b intake is narrower than the ITB setup we will be building. But you can see not much more room left to go back.

Christopher W. · 12-28-2010, 08:59 PM

Wow!!

It is so strange to have been so hands on with my car for so long. I lived for getting it to the state you received it in and now to be just watching from the wayyyy back seats.

It is awesome seeing that intake in my engine bay. I know it will not be there.. Something way more exciting (ITBs) will be but I have been dreaming about a three rotor in a FC since about 1997.

Oh, Logan, what about the hood latch. Do you think we can still use it or are we going to need to go to hood pins??

GtoRx7 · 12-29-2010, 12:01 AM

Yes we made everything fit and get to keep the hood latch

You will notice however the safety latch is missing the handle. We removed it because there was no way to keep it with the oil cooler in place. BUT we are going to be adding a cable system so you can simply pull under the grill area to release the hood safety. Thought that would be a pretty trick solution. Also, what color did you want this subframe powder coated? I was thinking gold would be sweet, as its under the car. But its your choice

Keep in mind that the next thing starting to be built will be the strut brace. Its going to be a elaborate piece and can be powder coated the same color if you wish.

Christopher W. · 12-29-2010, 06:55 AM

Sounds great on the latch and cable.

Man, I am not ready to make the color decision at this moment. I was going to go with gold Advan wheels but that has changed. So, I pretty much have left the idea of gold wheels. I know the rear brakes calipers are gold but not to sure I want to go that route.

I know by looking under your 3rd gen hood that you are not scared of radical colors.

Let me think about that. I might do something boring like flat or sating black.

When do you need to know by??

I have kind of envisioned raw metal look for the strut brace. I understand that is not as easy as it sounds. If you have any ideas to accomplish that let me know. If it is not doable powder coating is fine. Does aluminum provide enough rigidity for a brace? Remember, it is not really a race car...it just thinks it is.

By the way, since I didn't mention... That radiator, oil cooler, condenser set up is brilliant. It is absolutely beautiful and looks like it was designed by Mazda that way. Great Work!!

GtoRx7 · 12-30-2010, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Christopher W.

Sounds great on the latch and cable.

Man, I am not ready to make the color decision at this moment. I was going to go with gold Advan wheels but that has changed. So, I pretty much have left the idea of gold wheels. I know the rear brakes calipers are gold but not to sure I want to go that route.

I know by looking under your 3rd gen hood that you are not scared of radical colors.

Let me think about that. I might do something boring like flat or sating black.

When do you need to know by??

I have kind of envisioned raw metal look for the strut brace. I understand that is not as easy as it sounds. If you have any ideas to accomplish that let me know. If it is not doable powder coating is fine. Does aluminum provide enough rigidity for a brace? Remember, it is not really a race car...it just thinks it is.

By the way, since I didn't mention... That radiator, oil cooler, condenser set up is brilliant. It is absolutely beautiful and looks like it was designed by Mazda that way. Great Work!!

Gold and red are sexy

Keep in mind on the lower subframe, it will only be seen when you put the car on the lift or look under it. Black is too boring for that part lol. But I will powder-coat it black if you wish. We can do red too? On the strut brace.... I like the idea of raw metal. I will have to make it all out of stainless steel, or aluminum. Hmmm... not a problem. Aluminum will be strong, just will need to be made thicker, might take up more space. Have to check out stainless tubing see what sizes I can get. Thanks Chris, I am happy you are liking it! Trying to build the trickest stuff to help make up for taking so long!!

GtoRx7 · 02-06-2011, 05:27 PM

While we are still working on the strut brace and underbody braces, figured I would post pics of the new rear calipers we finally sourced. We had some awesome brembo rears already, but they were not nickle plated. With a huge stroke of luck, got ahold of these PFC nickle plated mono-block rear calipers. Major find, and brand spanking new! I about died when I opened the box!

GtoRx7 · 02-13-2011, 01:46 AM

Started on the ITB intake system. We are hand building and machining the slide throttles. The lower flange was all machined and you can see the holes for semi p-ports. Slide assembly is just in the rough stages, I will post up completed pics here shortly showing the ball bearing assembly on the inside!

Christopher W. · 02-13-2011, 12:46 PM

That looks pretty sweet!

Are you using teflon as the center slide or is that metal?

It looks like metal...if so how do you seal against air leakage?

fbRXse7en · 02-13-2011, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher W.

That looks pretty sweet!

Are you using teflon as the center slide or is that metal?

It looks like metal...if so how do you seal against air leakage?

Yeah, I was wondering the same...

Ian · 02-13-2011, 06:36 PM

Subscribed.

Nice build. Nice to see clean FC's. I have two myself. 1988 10th AE with over 400rwhp getting a complete face lift at my friends shop ClassicAuto Body and a a very nicely setup White 1989 Turbo II.

Can't wait to see more pictures. Would be nice for you to have this done for this years DGRR!!

Ian

***TitaniumTT*** · 02-13-2011, 09:08 PM

This is why I started using the Todays Post button instead of the New Posts button... I totally missed the brakes! Those are gorgeous Chris! I'd love to see the brackets and the final product.... I'm actually ordering mine tomorrow

GtoRx7 · 02-14-2011, 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Christopher W.

That looks pretty sweet!

Are you using teflon as the center slide or is that metal?

It looks like metal...if so how do you seal against air leakage?

There is two teflon sheets inside of there. I meant to take more pics as we were building it, but kinda got on a roll

I am installing the ball bearing guides today so will have more detailed pictures.

Christopher W. · 02-14-2011, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

This is why I started using the Todays Post button instead of the New Posts button... I totally missed the brakes! Those are gorgeous Chris! I'd love to see the brackets and the final product.... I'm actually ordering mine tomorrow

Great!! Can't wait to see what you are doing.

I have to tell you that I just read some more about your car. It is absolutely amazing. I hope to see it in person some day. I won't be making it to DGRR this year. Next year I definitely will though...

DGRR 2012!!

12-28-2010, 07:06 PM	#78
GtoRx7 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 iTrader: (0) Posts: 151 Rep Power: 17	More pics, had to upload some more. Final shot of the radiator/oil cooler bolt on subframe. Next step will be getting it powder coated Radiator and oil cooler placed into subframe. Now time to construct the upper quick release bracket. It will double as a cooling panel too And Chris, here is the pics you requested. The 20b intake is narrower than the ITB setup we will be building. But you can see not much more room left to go back. __________________ DEFINED AUTOWORKS Where concept meets results Black 1994 FD 4-rotor 610rwhp all motor Red 1970 Mazda R-100 with 10a Black 1974 Mazda Rx4 Black 1984 Gsl-SE 13b-re streetport 230rwhp

12-29-2010, 12:01 AM	#80
GtoRx7 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 iTrader: (0) Posts: 151 Rep Power: 17	Yes we made everything fit and get to keep the hood latch You will notice however the safety latch is missing the handle. We removed it because there was no way to keep it with the oil cooler in place. BUT we are going to be adding a cable system so you can simply pull under the grill area to release the hood safety. Thought that would be a pretty trick solution. Also, what color did you want this subframe powder coated? I was thinking gold would be sweet, as its under the car. But its your choice Keep in mind that the next thing starting to be built will be the strut brace. Its going to be a elaborate piece and can be powder coated the same color if you wish. __________________ DEFINED AUTOWORKS Where concept meets results Black 1994 FD 4-rotor 610rwhp all motor Red 1970 Mazda R-100 with 10a Black 1974 Mazda Rx4 Black 1984 Gsl-SE 13b-re streetport 230rwhp

12-29-2010, 06:55 AM	#81
Christopher W. Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0) Posts: 98 Rep Power: 17	Sounds great on the latch and cable. Man, I am not ready to make the color decision at this moment. I was going to go with gold Advan wheels but that has changed. So, I pretty much have left the idea of gold wheels. I know the rear brakes calipers are gold but not to sure I want to go that route. I know by looking under your 3rd gen hood that you are not scared of radical colors. Let me think about that. I might do something boring like flat or sating black. When do you need to know by?? I have kind of envisioned raw metal look for the strut brace. I understand that is not as easy as it sounds. If you have any ideas to accomplish that let me know. If it is not doable powder coating is fine. Does aluminum provide enough rigidity for a brace? Remember, it is not really a race car...it just thinks it is. By the way, since I didn't mention... That radiator, oil cooler, condenser set up is brilliant. It is absolutely beautiful and looks like it was designed by Mazda that way. Great Work!! Last edited by Christopher W.; 12-29-2010 at 12:42 PM..

02-06-2011, 05:27 PM	#83
GtoRx7 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 iTrader: (0) Posts: 151 Rep Power: 17	While we are still working on the strut brace and underbody braces, figured I would post pics of the new rear calipers we finally sourced. We had some awesome brembo rears already, but they were not nickle plated. With a huge stroke of luck, got ahold of these PFC nickle plated mono-block rear calipers. Major find, and brand spanking new! I about died when I opened the box! __________________ DEFINED AUTOWORKS Where concept meets results Black 1994 FD 4-rotor 610rwhp all motor Red 1970 Mazda R-100 with 10a Black 1974 Mazda Rx4 Black 1984 Gsl-SE 13b-re streetport 230rwhp

02-13-2011, 01:46 AM	#84
GtoRx7 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jul 2008 iTrader: (0) Posts: 151 Rep Power: 17	Started on the ITB intake system. We are hand building and machining the slide throttles. The lower flange was all machined and you can see the holes for semi p-ports. Slide assembly is just in the rough stages, I will post up completed pics here shortly showing the ball bearing assembly on the inside! __________________ DEFINED AUTOWORKS Where concept meets results Black 1994 FD 4-rotor 610rwhp all motor Red 1970 Mazda R-100 with 10a Black 1974 Mazda Rx4 Black 1984 Gsl-SE 13b-re streetport 230rwhp

12-26-2010, 01:53 AM	#77
Christopher W. Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0) Posts: 98 Rep Power: 17	Hey Logan, updates like these are by far my favorite Christmas present.. I dig the new oil pedestal. I now see exactly what you were talking about with the radiator mount. Logan can you snap another picture directly from the side. I want to see how much more room is left between engine and firewall.. Merry Christmas Gordon - cool new ideas going into your car. I don't know if we would have had to of move the engine back if not for (Logan can correct me if I am wrong) the fact that we are using Nextel radiator and oil cooler plus the stock ac condenser. The oil cooler is of a design I was not familiar with....nothing like a stock FC oil cooler. It looks more like a large flat yet thin radiator. I don't believe cooling is going to be an issue. Plus I am really excited about the engine moving back. I would not of minded a couple or more inches if the shifter could have been addressed properly.

12-28-2010, 08:59 PM	#79
Christopher W. Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0) Posts: 98 Rep Power: 17	Wow!! It is so strange to have been so hands on with my car for so long. I lived for getting it to the state you received it in and now to be just watching from the wayyyy back seats. It is awesome seeing that intake in my engine bay. I know it will not be there.. Something way more exciting (ITBs) will be but I have been dreaming about a three rotor in a FC since about 1997. Oh, Logan, what about the hood latch. Do you think we can still use it or are we going to need to go to hood pins??

02-13-2011, 12:46 PM	#85
Christopher W. Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0) Posts: 98 Rep Power: 17	That looks pretty sweet! Are you using teflon as the center slide or is that metal? It looks like metal...if so how do you seal against air leakage?

02-13-2011, 06:36 PM	#87
Ian REIAN Join Date: Feb 2008 iTrader: (0) Posts: 112 Rep Power: 17	Subscribed. Nice build. Nice to see clean FC's. I have two myself. 1988 10th AE with over 400rwhp getting a complete face lift at my friends shop ClassicAuto Body and a a very nicely setup White 1989 Turbo II. Can't wait to see more pictures. Would be nice for you to have this done for this years DGRR!! Ian __________________ 1989 Turbo II. Track Car 1988 10thAE. Garage Queen 400+rwhp

02-13-2011, 09:08 PM	#88
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