port work/first rebuild

***Herblenny*** · 06-26-2008, 04:53 PM

Mike,

Check out this thread.. I took some pics and did a comparison between REW, RE, and 20B.

http://rotarycarclub.com/showthread.php?t=14

My goal of an adapter is to use stock set up such as oil filler neck, coil location (which isn't an issue for you), Throttle cable, wiring, greddy elbow, min. IC modification, etc.

Also, with the adapter, I could easily go from RE to 20B as they share VERY similar specs.

sk8world · 06-26-2008, 06:17 PM

Yeah, I remember those pics. I am interested in the adapter. Post some pics....

Posted by Chrispeed:

TB sizes.
13B-RE.... All 3 X 45mm
13B-REW/20B-RE.... Prim 1 X 45mm
Sec 2 X 50mm
All three have the same manifold bolt pattern but fitment will have some issues.
There's an open cavity on the bottom of the RE intake manifolds for the BAC valve passage that the FD's TB won't cover. Some use epoxy to fill in that area if not using the BAC valve.
Also the TB elbow for the FD and RE are not interchangeable.

***Herblenny*** · 06-26-2008, 10:20 PM

I'll take some pics this weekend..

My adapter will cover up the BAC valve passge and will mate with FD TB perfectly!!

This way you could keep most of FD wiring harnesses such as TPS. Only thing you might have to relocate is the Air temp.. Which I think you already done that.

sk8world · 06-27-2008, 12:33 AM

great.. Waiting for pics..
Phil, if you talk w/ Luis see if my center section is ready? Thanks,

***Herblenny*** · 06-27-2008, 02:07 PM

He said he's not done.. He said his balancer is damaged and unable to completely balance your stuff. He said it would be little bit longer.

I'll take some pics tomorrow as if the weather is bad, All I'll be doing is working on my engine(s).

sk8world · 06-27-2008, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Herblenny

He said he's not done.. He said his balancer is damaged and unable to completely balance your stuff. He said it would be little bit longer.

I'll take some pics tomorrow as if the weather is bad, All I'll be doing is working on my engine(s).

I just got off the phone with Luis.. He droped a gauge and had to order another. I just have to clean up everything and its ready to go back together. Need to order seals and such now...

busted7 · 07-01-2008, 08:02 PM

Looking great Mike glad to see you getting closer and good luck!

sk8world · 07-02-2008, 01:13 AM

Thanks, But dont let me fool you... I just finished spending another 2.5 hours porting and still have another night of porting to do. I need to order my gaskets, seals, another fuel pump, wastegate, RE fuel rail, send inj's of for cleaning, do some rewiring on harness, and waiing to here from Phil about an adapter for RE mani to REW TB. thats it..LOL

***Herblenny*** · 07-02-2008, 09:13 AM

Opps... Totally forgot about that.. I'll try to remember tonight and take some pics..

I been having problems with the 8 and totally forgotten about taking pics. Also email me instead as I don't check this thread that often.

PHIL

***Herblenny*** · 07-03-2008, 07:10 AM

Mike,

Here are few pics of the adapter.

As you could see, it bring the length of the UIM to the same length of REW UIM. THis should clear oil filler neck and use IC pipings for REW. Also, be able to use the REW TB, which means could use the Greddy elbow.

lt1_fd3s · 07-03-2008, 07:32 AM

sorry to thread hi-jack for a moment, but phil, you make and sell the adapters?

if so, then i'll want to find me an RE manifold

***Herblenny*** · 07-03-2008, 11:52 AM

That's the plan of designing that adaptor.. to sell

I won't be making much.. And whatever I make from it, it would go toward this forum...

Its going to be around 400 a piece unless we get a TON of orders... as its going to take a quite of bit of machining..

Good thing about this is you get to use all REW stuff.. 20B TB and REW is pretty much has the same spec. Except 20B, you have to use 20B TPS. This way, you could keep everything the same

I'm also planning to use this on FD/20B swap. Did my calculation and everything should fit and make the conversion simpler.. and still use FD TPS and TB.

lt1_fd3s · 07-03-2008, 12:25 PM

nice...look forward to seeing ur project phil...and sorry for the short thread hi-jack sk8world

sk8world · 07-03-2008, 02:58 PM

great looking work.... Pm me or post up and let me know how long to get one.

sk8world · 07-03-2008, 11:52 PM

So here are my final ports. Pics show Mine, BDC's and a stock one.

06-26-2008, 04:53 PM	#16
*Herblenny* Founder/Administrator/Internet Pitbull :) Join Date: Jan 2008 iTrader: (11) Posts: 644 Rep Power: 10	Mike, Check out this thread.. I took some pics and did a comparison between REW, RE, and 20B. http://rotarycarclub.com/showthread.php?t=14 My goal of an adapter is to use stock set up such as oil filler neck, coil location (which isn't an issue for you), Throttle cable, wiring, greddy elbow, min. IC modification, etc. Also, with the adapter, I could easily go from RE to 20B as they share VERY similar specs. __________________ DGRR 2013 - Year of 13B www.DealsGapRotaryRally.com http://www.facebook.com/Herblenny

06-26-2008, 10:20 PM	#18
*Herblenny* Founder/Administrator/Internet Pitbull :) Join Date: Jan 2008 iTrader: (11) Posts: 644 Rep Power: 10	I'll take some pics this weekend.. My adapter will cover up the BAC valve passge and will mate with FD TB perfectly!! This way you could keep most of FD wiring harnesses such as TPS. Only thing you might have to relocate is the Air temp.. Which I think you already done that. __________________ DGRR 2013 - Year of 13B www.DealsGapRotaryRally.com http://www.facebook.com/Herblenny

06-27-2008, 02:07 PM	#20
*Herblenny* Founder/Administrator/Internet Pitbull :) Join Date: Jan 2008 iTrader: (11) Posts: 644 Rep Power: 10	He said he's not done.. He said his balancer is damaged and unable to completely balance your stuff. He said it would be little bit longer. I'll take some pics tomorrow as if the weather is bad, All I'll be doing is working on my engine(s). __________________ DGRR 2013 - Year of 13B www.DealsGapRotaryRally.com http://www.facebook.com/Herblenny

07-02-2008, 09:13 AM	#24
*Herblenny* Founder/Administrator/Internet Pitbull :) Join Date: Jan 2008 iTrader: (11) Posts: 644 Rep Power: 10	Opps... Totally forgot about that.. I'll try to remember tonight and take some pics.. I been having problems with the 8 and totally forgotten about taking pics. Also email me instead as I don't check this thread that often. PHIL __________________ DGRR 2013 - Year of 13B www.DealsGapRotaryRally.com http://www.facebook.com/Herblenny

07-03-2008, 07:32 AM	#26
lt1_fd3s WNC Tour Guide Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: WNC iTrader: (3) Posts: 780 Rep Power: 17	sorry to thread hi-jack for a moment, but phil, you make and sell the adapters? if so, then i'll want to find me an RE manifold __________________ WNC Tour Guide - Including the Tail of the Dragon - PM for details

06-26-2008, 06:17 PM	#17
sk8world 600rwhp club member. Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (2) Posts: 551 Rep Power: 17	Yeah, I remember those pics. I am interested in the adapter. Post some pics.... Posted by Chrispeed: TB sizes. 13B-RE.... All 3 X 45mm 13B-REW/20B-RE.... Prim 1 X 45mm Sec 2 X 50mm All three have the same manifold bolt pattern but fitment will have some issues. There's an open cavity on the bottom of the RE intake manifolds for the BAC valve passage that the FD's TB won't cover. Some use epoxy to fill in that area if not using the BAC valve. Also the TB elbow for the FD and RE are not interchangeable.

06-27-2008, 12:33 AM	#19
sk8world 600rwhp club member. Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (2) Posts: 551 Rep Power: 17	great.. Waiting for pics.. Phil, if you talk w/ Luis see if my center section is ready? Thanks,

07-01-2008, 08:02 PM	#22
busted7 Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0) Posts: 55 Rep Power: 17	Looking great Mike glad to see you getting closer and good luck!

07-02-2008, 01:13 AM	#23
sk8world 600rwhp club member. Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (2) Posts: 551 Rep Power: 17	Thanks, But dont let me fool you... I just finished spending another 2.5 hours porting and still have another night of porting to do. I need to order my gaskets, seals, another fuel pump, wastegate, RE fuel rail, send inj's of for cleaning, do some rewiring on harness, and waiing to here from Phil about an adapter for RE mani to REW TB. thats it..LOL

07-03-2008, 11:52 AM	#27
*Herblenny* Founder/Administrator/Internet Pitbull :) Join Date: Jan 2008 iTrader: (11) Posts: 644 Rep Power: 10	That's the plan of designing that adaptor.. to sell I won't be making much.. And whatever I make from it, it would go toward this forum... Its going to be around 400 a piece unless we get a TON of orders... as its going to take a quite of bit of machining.. Good thing about this is you get to use all REW stuff.. 20B TB and REW is pretty much has the same spec. Except 20B, you have to use 20B TPS. This way, you could keep everything the same I'm also planning to use this on FD/20B swap. Did my calculation and everything should fit and make the conversion simpler.. and still use FD TPS and TB. __________________ DGRR 2013 - Year of 13B www.DealsGapRotaryRally.com http://www.facebook.com/Herblenny

07-03-2008, 12:25 PM	#28
lt1_fd3s WNC Tour Guide Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: WNC iTrader: (3) Posts: 780 Rep Power: 17	nice...look forward to seeing ur project phil...and sorry for the short thread hi-jack sk8world __________________ WNC Tour Guide - Including the Tail of the Dragon - PM for details

07-03-2008, 02:58 PM	#29
sk8world 600rwhp club member. Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (2) Posts: 551 Rep Power: 17	great looking work.... Pm me or post up and let me know how long to get one.