NA 6 port half bridge build (zenki FC)

Tougemonster · 12-03-2012, 04:48 PM

I dont think Rhett's run yet. But its built by BDC so its prolly going to explode in his garage
I tried gettin some stuff from grampa as he said i could have the engine once. But now he says hes gonna rebuild it
oh well.
Im gettin a busted turbo tranny from Rhett and rebuilding it, still need a rear tho

Ill check into those dyno shops I might have it broken in by January maybe
I didnt think we had one here. i never see anything besides stock cars runnnin around here
Its strange, no fart cannons everywhere, an no black smoke belching d bags tryin to run me off the road
you should move here, we'd have the two loudest cars in town.

GySgtFrank · 12-03-2012, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by chibikougan

Also dynojets in billings,bozeman, and big sky

Big Sky? Really? What are they doing, building Hot Rod trail groomers? I didn't think anyone actually lived there full time. Just 10 million dollar ski cabins used one week out of the year.

Tougemonster · 12-03-2012, 06:21 PM

I know plenty of people that live there full time.
were the ones that keep the rich assholes fat and happy
Tons of crazy mtn passes to drive,mountains to climb
I lived in a gypsy ski colony last winter. at 7000 ft ..its rad
and yes.. there are hot rod trail groomers
and this... it climbs to over 8000ft and its scary rad

GySgtFrank · 12-03-2012, 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tougemonster

I know plenty of people that live there full time.
were the ones that keep the rich assholes fat and happy
Tons of crazy mtn passes to drive,mountains to climb
I lived in a gypsy ski colony last winter. at 7000 ft ..its rad
and yes.. there are hot rod trail groomers
and this... it climbs to over 8000ft and its scary rad

Just giving you a hard time. I had been doing work there since Chrysler owned it and everything was sliding into the creek, moved a few years ago. Seriously, I was surprised that someone had a Dyno there. I wouldn't have thought there would be enough business there to support one, frankly I'm surprised Bozeman even has one.

Tougemonster · 12-03-2012, 07:05 PM

Well ya gotta figure the diesel guys need em so they can pass out dyno sheets to their buddies when they hang out in parking lots and brag about how small their dicks are.
And when my fat drunk neighbor gets hes brand new 3/4 ton trucknuts stuck in the drive way i pull him out with a stock subaru wagon

chibikougan · 12-03-2012, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GySgtFrank

Just giving you a hard time. I had been doing work there since Chrysler owned it and everything was sliding into the creek, moved a few years ago. Seriously, I was surprised that someone had a Dyno there. I wouldn't have thought there would be enough business there to support one, frankly I'm surprised Bozeman even has one.

Haha quitter...

They will all most likely end up being 4 rear wheel rollers for semi trucks. Haha

Tougemonster · 02-22-2013, 11:38 PM

Well its broken in, runs great
I'm saving up for a miata tranny gear swap,some RB mufflers.. and a new clutch apparently.

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I'd like to be abit quieter and not so raspy. I guess it kinda barks more than rasps.
I dunno, all I know as that its soo loud that it makes dear fall over.

Any ideas for a good sprung hub clutch?
I had been using a stage 1 centerforce, never really liked it from the get go
Im looking at getting a light weight fly wheel as well. Racing Beat for both?

chibikougan · 02-23-2013, 01:08 PM

ACT or Spec I think are your best bets without spending to much. Also I think at this point the car will just Cobra Kai sweep the leg on the deer anyway with minimal damage to the car.

Tougemonster · 02-23-2013, 08:06 PM

Hah I'm goin lower too....hellaflush
cuz I <3 Haters

I guess I need to decide on a trans first
Either miata gears in a NA case = close ratios and double ring syncros
Or TII case with rebuild innards = wont break, easier to get flywheels

diabolical1 · 02-24-2013, 03:20 AM

ultimately your tranny choice will depend on how you plan to drive the car.

Tougemonster · 02-25-2013, 09:19 PM

Kinda depends on power too
I want about 300 ish to the wheels. But i dont want the long winded gears from the stock tranny.
Id like to eventually use a RX8 tranny, can they handle 300 at the wheels?
But ill prolly go for a modded NA tranny
I doubt Ill have any kind of power any time soon, and it gonna take alot of fab to get a RX8 tranny in there. oh well
Prolly should get my blinkers and logicon workin first eh

diabolical1 · 02-26-2013, 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tougemonster

Kinda depends on power too

kinda sorta, but not really.

the ribcases are "stronger" simply because they were built to handle more torque. they can take more abuse. however, there are plenty of N/A units living behind high horsepower/high torque engines and they hold up for years! however, if they are abused they don't seem to fare nearly as well. that's why i said it will depend on how you plan to use it.

for the Rx-8 tranny, i know that a lot of guys run the stock tranny in their turbocharged 8s, but i honestly have not paid any attention to if they were blowing them up, and if so, how often. so i really don't know. what i will say about them is this (and this is just my opinion), it's probably not worth it based on the ratios alone and definitely not without the Rx-8's rear end (or similar final drive).

chibikougan · 02-26-2013, 02:47 PM

Brian put around 500hp little less torque on a Rx8 6 speed and its still alive. You drove my car with the ACT HD PP and Street Strip disc so you know the feel of that a little.

Tougemonster · 06-28-2013, 06:55 PM

Figured I'd give y'all an update,
She's runnin abut better these days, been tuning the afm by clocking the spring looser to make it run richer.
I've gotten rid of the part throttle stumble and 3k lean spot

Gotta couple jobs lined up so I'm acquiring a 88 TII parts car
With some goodies including rtek 1.7, 720cc x 4 injectors, s5 turbo
Hks twin plate clutch with flywheel, and my fave 17x9 +22 enkie RPF1's

So looks like I'm going to boost the ole 6 port bridgy
I might use a to4 series turbo if water cooling the s5 turbo is to cumbersome
Most likely going v mount as well , and water injection for sure

Should be fun I hope, shooting for 280 to 300 hp at around 10-12 psi
I want to look into divided manafolds and turbine housings to go with the 9.4 rotors.
Hopefully should spool alright if my compressor wheel isn't to heavy ( I heard to4 series wheels are chunky)

If anyone has any input on timing maps for a half bridge turbo with 9.4's
I'd really appreciate it
It will end up either on a ms3x or haltec ( not sure yet, ideas?)

chibikougan · 06-29-2013, 06:32 AM

Uhhhhh lift kit and.....I got nothing from there..

02-22-2013, 11:38 PM	#22
Tougemonster Meat Popsicle Join Date: May 2010 Location: Missoula, MT iTrader: (0) Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	Well its broken in, runs great I'm saving up for a miata tranny gear swap,some RB mufflers.. and a new clutch apparently. <iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/t3dsRzWDr0Y?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe> http://youtu.be/t3dsRzWDr0Y I'd like to be abit quieter and not so raspy. I guess it kinda barks more than rasps. I dunno, all I know as that its soo loud that it makes dear fall over. Any ideas for a good sprung hub clutch? I had been using a stage 1 centerforce, never really liked it from the get go Im looking at getting a light weight fly wheel as well. Racing Beat for both? Last edited by Tougemonster; 02-23-2013 at 12:06 AM..

12-03-2012, 04:48 PM	#16
Tougemonster Meat Popsicle Join Date: May 2010 Location: Missoula, MT iTrader: (0) Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	I dont think Rhett's run yet. But its built by BDC so its prolly going to explode in his garage I tried gettin some stuff from grampa as he said i could have the engine once. But now he says hes gonna rebuild it oh well. Im gettin a busted turbo tranny from Rhett and rebuilding it, still need a rear tho Ill check into those dyno shops I might have it broken in by January maybe I didnt think we had one here. i never see anything besides stock cars runnnin around here Its strange, no fart cannons everywhere, an no black smoke belching d bags tryin to run me off the road you should move here, we'd have the two loudest cars in town.

12-03-2012, 06:21 PM	#18
Tougemonster Meat Popsicle Join Date: May 2010 Location: Missoula, MT iTrader: (0) Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	I know plenty of people that live there full time. were the ones that keep the rich assholes fat and happy Tons of crazy mtn passes to drive,mountains to climb I lived in a gypsy ski colony last winter. at 7000 ft ..its rad and yes.. there are hot rod trail groomers and this... it climbs to over 8000ft and its scary rad

12-03-2012, 07:05 PM	#20
Tougemonster Meat Popsicle Join Date: May 2010 Location: Missoula, MT iTrader: (0) Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	Well ya gotta figure the diesel guys need em so they can pass out dyno sheets to their buddies when they hang out in parking lots and brag about how small their dicks are. And when my fat drunk neighbor gets hes brand new 3/4 ton trucknuts stuck in the drive way i pull him out with a stock subaru wagon

02-23-2013, 08:06 PM	#24
Tougemonster Meat Popsicle Join Date: May 2010 Location: Missoula, MT iTrader: (0) Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	Hah I'm goin lower too....hellaflush cuz I <3 Haters I guess I need to decide on a trans first Either miata gears in a NA case = close ratios and double ring syncros Or TII case with rebuild innards = wont break, easier to get flywheels

02-25-2013, 09:19 PM	#26
Tougemonster Meat Popsicle Join Date: May 2010 Location: Missoula, MT iTrader: (0) Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	Kinda depends on power too I want about 300 ish to the wheels. But i dont want the long winded gears from the stock tranny. Id like to eventually use a RX8 tranny, can they handle 300 at the wheels? But ill prolly go for a modded NA tranny I doubt Ill have any kind of power any time soon, and it gonna take alot of fab to get a RX8 tranny in there. oh well Prolly should get my blinkers and logicon workin first eh

06-28-2013, 06:55 PM	#29
Tougemonster Meat Popsicle Join Date: May 2010 Location: Missoula, MT iTrader: (0) Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	Figured I'd give y'all an update, She's runnin abut better these days, been tuning the afm by clocking the spring looser to make it run richer. I've gotten rid of the part throttle stumble and 3k lean spot Gotta couple jobs lined up so I'm acquiring a 88 TII parts car With some goodies including rtek 1.7, 720cc x 4 injectors, s5 turbo Hks twin plate clutch with flywheel, and my fave 17x9 +22 enkie RPF1's So looks like I'm going to boost the ole 6 port bridgy I might use a to4 series turbo if water cooling the s5 turbo is to cumbersome Most likely going v mount as well , and water injection for sure Should be fun I hope, shooting for 280 to 300 hp at around 10-12 psi I want to look into divided manafolds and turbine housings to go with the 9.4 rotors. Hopefully should spool alright if my compressor wheel isn't to heavy ( I heard to4 series wheels are chunky) If anyone has any input on timing maps for a half bridge turbo with 9.4's I'd really appreciate it It will end up either on a ms3x or haltec ( not sure yet, ideas?)