S5 Seatbelt/mousebelt Recall

classicauto · 03-04-2008, 04:28 PM

Nhtsa Campaign Number:
96v173000

Component Description:
Seat Belts:front:webbing

Defect Description:
The Rail Of The Automatic Shoulder Belt Can Wear Sufficiently Such That The Cable Which Retracts The Buckle Assembly Will Become Jammed In The Rail Rendering The Shoulder Belt Inoperative.

Consequence Description:
In The Event Of A Vehicle Collision, The Occupant Would Not Be Adequately Restrained Increasing The Risk Of Personal Injury.

Corrective Action:
Dealers Will Replace Inoperative Shoulder Belts. Mazda Has Extended The Warranty Coverage On The Driver And Passenger Automatic Shoulder Belt Rail And Motor For The Life Of The Vehicle.
_________________________________________________

The above is a direct quote from Mitchell USA estimating system and the NHTSA number is accurate.

All dealers must honour the seatbelt repairs for the lifetime of the car, even if its been done before.

Expect to get a little flak when approaching the dealers on the issue since, well, it IS an old car and the people working the service counter probably aren't aware that what you're telling them is true. So be paitent, and assertive, use the NHTSA (National Highway traffic Saftey Act) number and don't let a little resistance stop you from getting the repairs performed.

Thanks!

cool_as_crap · 03-04-2008, 05:04 PM

Oh yes, I remember how much you helped me out with that BS I had with the dealer

Even after I called Mazda corp, they still said fuck off.

Turbo II · 03-05-2008, 04:07 PM

I had to have that done after Deals Gap last year. Drivers side came off track. Took it in, got a little grief from one of the service writers. Showed him a couple of printouts I had for it and said you have to do it. He said let me check. Comes back and said it had been done once and couldn't be done again. I showed him the letters again. Fortunately the Parts Dept manager and one of the other service writers who know me very very well walked in. They took him aside and came back a few mins later and said no prob. They even decided to replace the passenger one while they were at it just in case.

Boostmaniac · 04-11-2008, 02:46 PM

Wow, that is super nice. Great info to have for the S5 guys.

yeahbuddy · 07-18-2008, 10:08 PM

I recently had this recall done.. Before they replaced the motor I had a very bad ground while the door was closed. After the repair I thought the ground was fixed. I didn't get in my car for about a week and the battery was dead when I went back.. After I boosted the car and charged the battery a bit I rechecked for the ground.. It draws around .01 v every 5-10 seconds or so. As soon as either door is opened the meter reads 0.00 v. An ideas?

StarSpeedRacing · 01-14-2009, 03:37 AM

I have had it done on almost every single 89-91 S5 I have owned.
I have never been refused that service from Royal Motors in San Francisco.
And yes, if they do give you static just call +100 to the above.

RETed · 01-14-2009, 05:32 AM

I've got more info here:
http://fc3spro.com/TECH/PROBLEMS/INT/sbelt.htm

-Ted

Brian Barna · 03-21-2009, 01:00 AM

So, I guess the S4 boys are out in the cold?

need RX7 · 03-21-2009, 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian Barna

So, I guess the S4 boys are out in the cold?

The S4 boys have proper, safe and non-annoying seatbelts

Chris · 04-02-2009, 08:48 PM

What do you do if mazda fixed your belts, and they broke a few days later?

The belt light was still on when I got the car back even, I disabled the drivers side belt it doesnt move all the way half the time, the passenger one has been okay though

Turbo II · 09-16-2009, 06:51 PM

They have to fix it again. It's the law.

BigIslandSevens · 09-20-2009, 12:45 PM

Don't know if it is "legal" or not, but I got tired of the runaround from the local dealer. And could not order the needed parts as it is a factory replacement part.( warranty issue

)

So I converted to the S4 manual seat belts. You need the plastic trim pices that cover the main belt and the a-pillars for a smooth finish( no track seen

)

Everything bolts directly in and works fine. I am not telling people to do this! I just got tired of the hassle;.

And the dealer MUST fix it. I just don't have the energy to waste on that argument with them.
Dave

Gregory Casimir · 01-21-2010, 03:12 PM

you guys still have the link to print out the letter from Mazda?

djmtsu · 01-21-2010, 04:39 PM

You do not need it. You can just reference the recall campaign number.

1989 - 1991 RX-7
Automatic Shoulder Belt
(Recall Campaign #68702)

Gregory Casimir · 01-21-2010, 10:07 PM

wurd! looks like im keeing these then lol

03-04-2008, 04:28 PM	#1
classicauto crash auto?fix auto Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 816 Rep Power: 18	S5 Seatbelt/mousebelt Recall Nhtsa Campaign Number: 96v173000 Component Description: Seat Belts:front:webbing Defect Description: The Rail Of The Automatic Shoulder Belt Can Wear Sufficiently Such That The Cable Which Retracts The Buckle Assembly Will Become Jammed In The Rail Rendering The Shoulder Belt Inoperative. Consequence Description: In The Event Of A Vehicle Collision, The Occupant Would Not Be Adequately Restrained Increasing The Risk Of Personal Injury. Corrective Action: Dealers Will Replace Inoperative Shoulder Belts. Mazda Has Extended The Warranty Coverage On The Driver And Passenger Automatic Shoulder Belt Rail And Motor For The Life Of The Vehicle. _________________________________________________ The above is a direct quote from Mitchell USA estimating system and the NHTSA number is accurate. All dealers must honour the seatbelt repairs for the lifetime of the car, even if its been done before. Expect to get a little flak when approaching the dealers on the issue since, well, it IS an old car and the people working the service counter probably aren't aware that what you're telling them is true. So be paitent, and assertive, use the NHTSA (National Highway traffic Saftey Act) number and don't let a little resistance stop you from getting the repairs performed. Thanks!

03-05-2008, 04:07 PM	#3
Turbo II Zoom Freaking Zoom Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NC Posts: 324 Rep Power: 18	I had to have that done after Deals Gap last year. Drivers side came off track. Took it in, got a little grief from one of the service writers. Showed him a couple of printouts I had for it and said you have to do it. He said let me check. Comes back and said it had been done once and couldn't be done again. I showed him the letters again. Fortunately the Parts Dept manager and one of the other service writers who know me very very well walked in. They took him aside and came back a few mins later and said no prob. They even decided to replace the passenger one while they were at it just in case. __________________ 1988 RX-7 Convertible 1991 RX-7 Turbo 2004 RX-8 GT 1985 RX-7 GSL - Sold

09-16-2009, 06:51 PM	#11
Turbo II Zoom Freaking Zoom Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NC Posts: 324 Rep Power: 18	They have to fix it again. It's the law. __________________ 1988 RX-7 Convertible 1991 RX-7 Turbo 2004 RX-8 GT 1985 RX-7 GSL - Sold

09-20-2009, 12:45 PM	#12
BigIslandSevens Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver, NC Posts: 201 Rep Power: 18	Don't know if it is "legal" or not, but I got tired of the runaround from the local dealer. And could not order the needed parts as it is a factory replacement part.( warranty issue) So I converted to the S4 manual seat belts. You need the plastic trim pices that cover the main belt and the a-pillars for a smooth finish( no track seen) Everything bolts directly in and works fine. I am not telling people to do this! I just got tired of the hassle;. And the dealer MUST fix it. I just don't have the energy to waste on that argument with them. Dave

01-21-2010, 04:39 PM	#14
djmtsu My minds tellin' me no... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 4,043 Rep Power: 22	You do not need it. You can just reference the recall campaign number. 1989 - 1991 RX-7 Automatic Shoulder Belt (Recall Campaign #68702) __________________ 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 2003 Toyota Tundra TRD 2015 Toyota 4Runner SR5

03-04-2008, 05:04 PM	#2
cool_as_crap BIIZZZAAAARRRRO Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Frazier Park, CA Posts: 56 Rep Power: 18	Oh yes, I remember how much you helped me out with that BS I had with the dealer Even after I called Mazda corp, they still said fuck off.

04-11-2008, 02:46 PM	#4
Boostmaniac Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 182 Rep Power: 0	Wow, that is super nice. Great info to have for the S5 guys.

07-18-2008, 10:08 PM	#5
yeahbuddy The Newbie Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: St. Paul, VA Posts: 6 Rep Power: 0	I recently had this recall done.. Before they replaced the motor I had a very bad ground while the door was closed. After the repair I thought the ground was fixed. I didn't get in my car for about a week and the battery was dead when I went back.. After I boosted the car and charged the battery a bit I rechecked for the ground.. It draws around .01 v every 5-10 seconds or so. As soon as either door is opened the meter reads 0.00 v. An ideas?

01-14-2009, 03:37 AM	#6
StarSpeedRacing StarSpeedRacing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: California Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	I have had it done on almost every single 89-91 S5 I have owned. I have never been refused that service from Royal Motors in San Francisco. And yes, if they do give you static just call +100 to the above. __________________ StarSpeedRacing Parts Development & Discount Parts! GB:FD Intercooler Kit GB:Stainless Non Turbo Headers Contact: StarSpeedRacing@gmail.com

03-21-2009, 01:00 AM	#8
Brian Barna The Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	So, I guess the S4 boys are out in the cold?

01-21-2010, 03:12 PM	#13
Gregory Casimir Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 253 Rep Power: 16	you guys still have the link to print out the letter from Mazda?

01-21-2010, 10:07 PM	#15
Gregory Casimir Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 253 Rep Power: 16	wurd! looks like im keeing these then lol