replaced shifter spring, spring doesnt spring

[infernosg]

So I got the 1-2 and 5-reverse backwards in my first response and yeah, the control end bushing is only in the series 5 n/a transmission (thanks Rotary Revolution) so here's try #3. Have you tried taking the control end assembly apart and putting it back together again? There is a specific order some parts need to be installed. Have you tried with the shifter completely bolted back in? You picture above shows the shift lever without the lower boot and mounting flange.

[jahjahsqc]

Originally Posted by infernosg

So I got the 1-2 and 5-reverse backwards in my first response and yeah, the control end bushing is only in the series 5 n/a transmission (thanks Rotary Revolution) so here's try #3. Have you tried taking the control end assembly apart and putting it back together again? There is a specific order some parts need to be installed. Have you tried with the shifter completely bolted back in? You picture above shows the shift lever without the lower boot and mounting flange.

When you suggest taking the control end assy apart are you refering to taking the pin back out and removing the block from the end of the control rod? I have not done that. I have taken both side covers off and the plug in the back and checked for obstructions and everything and then put them all back together. I don't see that I'm missing any pieces either. On the driver's hand side where the ball/spring/plunger piece is... Does the "plunger" piece neeed to be oriented a certain way? I didnt put any thought into this because i assume this piece's job is to center the shifter from 5/R which it does just fine.

In the last picture I posted am I missing something? I was thinking there was supposed to be something else there... this was completely apart when i got it and the factory service manual doesnt show a good parts break out for the shifter.

[infernosg]

Originally Posted by jahjahsqc

When you suggest taking the control end assy apart are you refering to taking the pin back out and removing the block from the end of the control rod? I have not done that. I have taken both side covers off and the plug in the back and checked for obstructions and everything and then put them all back together. I don't see that I'm missing any pieces either. On the driver's hand side where the ball/spring/plunger piece is... Does the "plunger" piece neeed to be oriented a certain way? I didnt put any thought into this because i assume this piece's job is to center the shifter from 5/R which it does just fine.

I don't think removing the control rod end would do anything. It looks like everything it is there correctly and you have to remove the extension housing to pull it, which is annoying if everything is sealed. By "plunger" I assume you're referring to the thing above the longer spring in my picture below?



Again, I don't know how different the TII transmissions are from the n/a ones but in my case the flat spot on this feature needs to be facing the rear of the the car. Here is where the order of installation is important. After the control rod end and roll pin are installed next is the large spring and the plunger (these are what provide the spring force for 5/reverse). After that is the small steel ball, small spring, and bolt. Any important step is to rotate the control rod end as if you were shifting into 5/reverse before installing the steel ball and spring. The steel ball has to engage the flat spot on the "plunger." Since you said you can get into every gear I don't think this is an issue and either way, this shouldn't affect the 1/2 return.

Originally Posted by jahjahsqc

In the last picture I posted am I missing something? I was thinking there was supposed to be something else there... this was completely apart when i got it and the factory service manual doesnt show a good parts break out for the shifter.

My picture above has all the parts for a n/a transmission. I'd have to take a look in the FSM to see if the TII is any different. For reference here is how mine looked what I got everything back together:



Looks the same, right?