Improving dgrr

slvrstreak · 05-01-2013, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tbuelna

I second the comment about newbies feeling unwelcomed. After trying to talk to several people my wife and I mostly got the cold shoulder before giving up. We hung out at the car show for a while and then hit the dragon and went home. Didn't even stay for the pic. I'm glad we went to see the cars...I love my FD, but needless to say, we will not be returning.

must have only talked to other FD drivers

all the FB, FC, and 8 drivers I have meet have been very chill
I personally have never had a negative experience at DGRR
everyone has always been very welcoming and socialable imo

91convguy · 05-01-2013, 12:39 PM

I would have to agree that it's not the greatest event to make friends. Still managed to find a couple rotor heads talk with, people tend to stay in there group I found it to be very true when it came to the car show part of the show people in the in parked up in paved lot at lodge every one else well, it still was ok event. So the next year ended up at a full campground at fontana full of Minies there rally ended up being on same weekend, this was about two years ago they were so cool invited me in to share there site had greatest time that weekend only rx7 convert at there event they even insisted I pull up to there car wash area and clean up my car. Learned a lot about minies that weekend witch was really cool they are good little handlers with there little corky problems. What's really kept me away from DGRR event is the car show part of the event, just feel show would be better if all cars were shown in same paved lot.

***TitaniumTT*** · 05-01-2013, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by 91convguy

I would have to agree that it's not the greatest event to make friends. Still managed to find a couple rotor heads talk with, people tend to stay in there group

I really don't understand how people can say that it's not a friendly place or it's difficult to make friends. I really think some of these people are socially inept or just give off bad vibes or something. I've been attending DGRR since 2009 and every year it seems to grow more and more and people honestly get friendlier and friendlier. Every year I meet a few new people either by them walking up and talking to me or me commenting on thier car or something.... I've always found it to be the most welcoming of events

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Originally Posted by 91convguy

I found it to be very true when it came to the car show part of the show people in the in parked up in paved lot at lodge every one else well, it still was ok event.

That's because it is a car show and there is limited space. If you arrive in a broken down rusting our hulk, or a non rotary car, you're going to be asked to move the car for others. I know this sounds harsh because everyone loves thier own car and thinks it's the greatest, but it is a show after all and there is limited space. I arrived to the show late this year and parked way off to the side mostly sticking out into the street.... my own fault for showing up late. Usually I'm there @ 6:30 in the morning....

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Originally Posted by 91convguy

What's really kept me away from DGRR event is the car show part of the event, just feel show would be better if all cars were shown in same paved lot.

With 300 cars and spots for what, 50? that's not going to happen. Logistically it's an impossibility.
However, this is why there is the Damn Dam photoshoot which I've missed every year up until this one, and yeah, even though I spent most of my time directing cars and yelling over the mic and calling DJ a freakishly tall yankee... I still had a lot of fun there.

85turbo12a · 05-01-2013, 05:57 PM

^what he said...

hey wait...technically I am classified as "non-rotory" now...but I was there on time so :P

speaking as an eccentric, OCD, anti-social, mad scientistic and somewhat grumpy machinist type...I say if you cant talk to people at DGRR....

hell not to toot the ol horn, but I am sure there were a lot of people with questions for me about mine...but I was too busy talking to others about theirs to stand by it all morning...that is why I have a build thread hehehe

anyway, lets focus on important ideas rather than non-negotiable terrain limitations..

An idea i had today..and someone please alert me if its exists and i missed it, was to maybe have some sort of sign up sheet for various "runs" to different roads and the times and leaders of such groups, be nice to have the ability to see a persons car and face that you may not know that has volunteered to lead a group of cars to X road at X time so that someone new or old can find that person and get a run-down and status and be ready when time.

I am still learning that area and get lost a lot..but hell i will still take a group out if they want lol i drive slow too

for me this year i had my friends with me in their truck so i mainly just went with them at the pace they could run, there was no point in them trying to keep with the pack of 7s, kept me out of trouble too hehehe, but really i did miss some good group runs but oh well, next year.

communication was the biggest failing for me and a lot of other people, our phones wont work, the wifi at the lodge was garbage so even savanadan couldnt get a hold of me, and we rode up together, if we werent within eyesight it was hopeless, not sure what to do about that, that is a landscape issue with service providers...so having perhaps some experienced members organizing drives at designated times so as to sync up everyone out of communication would be nice.
perhaps a marker/chalkboard or series of clipboards for use in this.

the itinerary for the show and the photo shoot and all that is all good and works, but it is the "free time" that falls apart if you dont know specifically who is going where and when(especialy for new people that dont know anyone personally) like i was in 2011, but i just followed the smell

Pete_89T2 · 05-01-2013, 06:16 PM

I'm a bit surprised by the comments of the DGRR newbies who said they got the cold shoulder from folks they tried to strike up convos with. Maybe they just had the bad luck of meeting the few snobs first, and first impressions carry a lot of weight. I'm not the most extroverted & socially talented sort of guy, but that's not my experience at all. My 1st year at DGRR was 2010, and I've been attending every year since mainly because everyone I've encountered here is so friendly and I always have a great time.

***TitaniumTT*** · 05-01-2013, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 85turbo12a

^what he said...

hey wait...technically I am classified as "non-rotory" now...but I was there on time so :P

speaking as an eccentric, OCD, anti-social, mad scientistic and somewhat grumpy machinist type...I say if you cant talk to people at DGRR....

I'm not a machinist so I don't know who you're talking about

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Originally Posted by 85turbo12a

hell not to toot the ol horn, but I am sure there were a lot of people with questions for me about mine...but I was too busy talking to others about theirs to stand by it all morning...that is why I have a build thread hehehe

That is not a bad thing.... in 2011 I wanted to go and talk to others, but kept getting pulled back to mine to answer questions and chat, which I am always more than happy to do....

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Originally Posted by 85turbo12a

anyway, lets focus on important ideas rather than non-negotiable terrain limitations..

An idea i had today..and someone please alert me if its exists and i missed it, was to maybe have some sort of sign up sheet for various "runs" to different roads and the times and leaders of such groups, be nice to have the ability to see a persons car and face that you may not know that has volunteered to lead a group of cars to X road at X time so that someone new or old can find that person and get a run-down and status and be ready when time.

I am still learning that area and get lost a lot..but hell i will still take a group out if they want lol i drive slow too

for me this year i had my friends with me in their truck so i mainly just went with them at the pace they could run, there was no point in them trying to keep with the pack of 7s, kept me out of trouble too hehehe, but really i did miss some good group runs but oh well, next year.

communication was the biggest failing for me and a lot of other people, our phones wont work, the wifi at the lodge was garbage so even savanadan couldnt get a hold of me, and we rode up together, if we werent within eyesight it was hopeless, not sure what to do about that, that is a landscape issue with service providers...so having perhaps some experienced members organizing drives at designated times so as to sync up everyone out of communication would be nice.
perhaps a marker/chalkboard or series of clipboards for use in this.

the itinerary for the show and the photo shoot and all that is all good and works, but it is the "free time" that falls apart if you dont know specifically who is going where and when(especialy for new people that dont know anyone personally) like i was in 2011, but i just followed the smell

That is a double edged sword. The free time is just that and totally seperate from DGRR because of liability... that is about the simplest way to put it.

If someone wants to take the lead and organize something, and Phil please stop me if I'm wrong here but we've had a very similar insurance/liability driven conversation in the past, it needs to be seperate from DGRR.... correct?

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Originally Posted by Pete_89T2

I'm a bit surprised by the comments of the DGRR newbies who said they got the cold shoulder from folks they tried to strike up convos with. Maybe they just had the bad luck of meeting the few snobs first, and first impressions carry a lot of weight. I'm not the most extroverted & socially talented sort of guy, but that's not my experience at all. My 1st year at DGRR was 2010, and I've been attending every year since mainly because everyone I've encountered here is so friendly and I always have a great time.

That.... absolutely that.... I lvoe it, I consistently say it's the highlight of my automotive year

85turbo12a · 05-01-2013, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

I'm not a machinist so I don't know who you're talking about

That is not a bad thing.... in 2011 I wanted to go and talk to others, but kept getting pulled back to mine to answer questions and chat, which I am always more than happy to do....

That is a double edged sword. The free time is just that and totally seperate from DGRR because of liability... that is about the simplest way to put it.

If someone wants to take the lead and organize something, and Phil please stop me if I'm wrong here but we've had a very similar insurance/liability driven conversation in the past, it needs to be seperate from DGRR.... correct?

right since i suck at quoting i will just respond in order...i cut metal...not html...

as for taking the time to answer questions about the car...there is never enough time...we all need to just get in one big circle and play spin the bottle for tech questions

as far as the liability aspect of organized "tours" I admit my ignorance on the details of such matters, just throwing it out there.

I personally don't have much trouble meeting people there to go places, other than when I am off somewhere already because of no communication hardly...but for less independent folks...might help.

anyone have any luck with CB radios in those hills? something with range? who has the best cell service that works in all the areas?

not even worried about using a scanner or radar/laser detector, those guys up there know just where to hide if they wont you they get you.

just want to be able to communicate...or call for help...

05-01-2013, 12:39 PM	#2
91convguy The Newbie Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 12 Rep Power: 0	I would have to agree that it's not the greatest event to make friends. Still managed to find a couple rotor heads talk with, people tend to stay in there group I found it to be very true when it came to the car show part of the show people in the in parked up in paved lot at lodge every one else well, it still was ok event. So the next year ended up at a full campground at fontana full of Minies there rally ended up being on same weekend, this was about two years ago they were so cool invited me in to share there site had greatest time that weekend only rx7 convert at there event they even insisted I pull up to there car wash area and clean up my car. Learned a lot about minies that weekend witch was really cool they are good little handlers with there little corky problems. What's really kept me away from DGRR event is the car show part of the event, just feel show would be better if all cars were shown in same paved lot.

05-01-2013, 05:57 PM	#4
85turbo12a nerd Join Date: May 2011 Location: Lakeland Florida Posts: 107 Rep Power: 15	^what he said... hey wait...technically I am classified as "non-rotory" now...but I was there on time so :P speaking as an eccentric, OCD, anti-social, mad scientistic and somewhat grumpy machinist type...I say if you cant talk to people at DGRR.... hell not to toot the ol horn, but I am sure there were a lot of people with questions for me about mine...but I was too busy talking to others about theirs to stand by it all morning...that is why I have a build thread hehehe anyway, lets focus on important ideas rather than non-negotiable terrain limitations.. An idea i had today..and someone please alert me if its exists and i missed it, was to maybe have some sort of sign up sheet for various "runs" to different roads and the times and leaders of such groups, be nice to have the ability to see a persons car and face that you may not know that has volunteered to lead a group of cars to X road at X time so that someone new or old can find that person and get a run-down and status and be ready when time. I am still learning that area and get lost a lot..but hell i will still take a group out if they want lol i drive slow too for me this year i had my friends with me in their truck so i mainly just went with them at the pace they could run, there was no point in them trying to keep with the pack of 7s, kept me out of trouble too hehehe, but really i did miss some good group runs but oh well, next year. communication was the biggest failing for me and a lot of other people, our phones wont work, the wifi at the lodge was garbage so even savanadan couldnt get a hold of me, and we rode up together, if we werent within eyesight it was hopeless, not sure what to do about that, that is a landscape issue with service providers...so having perhaps some experienced members organizing drives at designated times so as to sync up everyone out of communication would be nice. perhaps a marker/chalkboard or series of clipboards for use in this. the itinerary for the show and the photo shoot and all that is all good and works, but it is the "free time" that falls apart if you dont know specifically who is going where and when(especialy for new people that dont know anyone personally) like i was in 2011, but i just followed the smell

05-01-2013, 06:16 PM	#5
Pete_89T2 Lifetime Rotorhead Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Elkton, MD Posts: 874 Rep Power: 16	I'm a bit surprised by the comments of the DGRR newbies who said they got the cold shoulder from folks they tried to strike up convos with. Maybe they just had the bad luck of meeting the few snobs first, and first impressions carry a lot of weight. I'm not the most extroverted & socially talented sort of guy, but that's not my experience at all. My 1st year at DGRR was 2010, and I've been attending every year since mainly because everyone I've encountered here is so friendly and I always have a great time.