12a question

fc nut · 05-14-2012, 07:26 PM

my sons se had a carbed 12a in it.I'm planning on using my se housings and rotors when i build his engine. i've looked at the 12a's oil cooler and was wandering, do I need to use the beehive or can I use an s4 cooler instead?

Rich@SR · 05-14-2012, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fc nut

my sons se had a carbed 12a in it.I'm planning on using my se housings and rotors when i build his engine. i've looked at the 12a's oil cooler and was wandering, do I need to use the beehive or can I use an s4 cooler instead?

Swap it.

GySgtFrank · 05-14-2012, 08:13 PM

The 12A in my 79 used an oil cooler almost identical to the one in an FC. I don't know about internals or the fittings, but I don't see why not. I still have the oil cooler and front cover from the 12A, if the FC one won't work. Anyone else?

t_g_farrell · 05-15-2012, 07:03 AM

Don't use the beehive for a 13B build. You want a front mount of some kind.

IH8DSM · 05-16-2012, 06:57 AM

The 2nd gen oil cooler works the hard line for the back iron has to be straightened a little to fit then you will have to figure out a way to mount it

diabolical1 · 05-18-2012, 08:03 PM

as long as you can figure a way to mount it, use the S4 cooler.

NYCGPS · 05-18-2012, 10:57 PM

Mazda did so well at most parts ... but that beehive is such a joke

swap it.

fc nut · 05-26-2012, 09:27 PM

recently my se's oil cooler was cracked and i was gonna use an s4. i ended up getting it welded,so i was gonna use it in my sons car. his engine is gonna have se housings and 12a irons,that's why i was gonna see if it would work.

dr.occa · 08-13-2012, 03:56 PM

I think my question is related:

I just recently replaced my sp 12A (lost compression) with a stock 12A. It was running the "bee hive" cooler so I pulled it already and am running a front mount. Can the hard coolant line that's still back there be unscrewed and that port plugged or ...? I didn't want to attempt to remove it yet and potentially shoot myself in the foot and introduce a new problem that didn't exist. Right now I've capped both openings but they're still leaking a bit.

Here's a picture of what I'm talking about with the orange arrow pointing out the hardline I'm referring to. (it's not my engine by the way):

rxtasy3 · 09-15-2012, 09:55 PM

use an original SE cooler if u can get one, otherwise as mentioned, u can fab a mount for the s4 cooler.

IH8DSM · 09-16-2012, 09:40 PM

Just cap one of the ports with a cap they sell some in the help section of auto zone that are just for blocking coolant. You could always bend it and weld it shut.

fc nut · 09-17-2012, 03:28 PM

i ditched that idea. i'm gonna use my se engine in my son's car,with a sidedraft setup. i'm gonna use the s4 cooler on his car.

rxtasy3 · 09-18-2012, 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dr.occa

I think my question is related:

I just recently replaced my sp 12A (lost compression) with a stock 12A. It was running the "bee hive" cooler so I pulled it already and am running a front mount. Can the hard coolant line that's still back there be unscrewed and that port plugged or ...? I didn't want to attempt to remove it yet and potentially shoot myself in the foot and introduce a new problem that didn't exist. Right now I've capped both openings but they're still leaking a bit.

i think those r just pressed into the housing. last one i did i just cut it off just behind where it T's off towards the firewall so there's just the single piece sticking out.

fc nut · 10-31-2012, 06:41 PM

thanks for the input,however i've decided to use my se engine in my son's car.

05-14-2012, 07:26 PM	#1
fc nut member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lebanon,Ohio Posts: 282 Rep Power: 18	12a question my sons se had a carbed 12a in it.I'm planning on using my se housings and rotors when i build his engine. i've looked at the 12a's oil cooler and was wandering, do I need to use the beehive or can I use an s4 cooler instead? __________________ leaving my carbon footprint....one start up at a time

05-14-2012, 08:13 PM	#3
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,012 Rep Power: 16	The 12A in my 79 used an oil cooler almost identical to the one in an FC. I don't know about internals or the fittings, but I don't see why not. I still have the oil cooler and front cover from the 12A, if the FC one won't work. Anyone else? __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

05-15-2012, 07:03 AM	#4
t_g_farrell Waffles - hmmm good Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 757 Rep Power: 0	Don't use the beehive for a 13B build. You want a front mount of some kind. __________________ 1980 GS stockport, Fat Nikki, RB Dual Facetfuel pumps, Holley regulator, RB Street port exhaust, 2GDFIS, MR2 MK I electric fans, 2G strut bar, relayed fans, lights and fuel pump, LEDs Project Fat Nikki Budget 12A rebuild Video setup < $30.00

05-16-2012, 06:57 AM	#5
IH8DSM RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 610 Rep Power: 18	The 2nd gen oil cooler works the hard line for the back iron has to be straightened a little to fit then you will have to figure out a way to mount it __________________ 85 rx7 gsl-se - AA tags/ never ending project will never run

05-26-2012, 09:27 PM	#8
fc nut member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lebanon,Ohio Posts: 282 Rep Power: 18	recently my se's oil cooler was cracked and i was gonna use an s4. i ended up getting it welded,so i was gonna use it in my sons car. his engine is gonna have se housings and 12a irons,that's why i was gonna see if it would work. __________________ leaving my carbon footprint....one start up at a time

05-18-2012, 10:57 PM	#7
NYCGPS The Newbie Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	Mazda did so well at most parts ... but that beehive is such a joke swap it.

08-13-2012, 03:56 PM	#9
dr.occa Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 73 Rep Power: 15	I think my question is related: I just recently replaced my sp 12A (lost compression) with a stock 12A. It was running the "bee hive" cooler so I pulled it already and am running a front mount. Can the hard coolant line that's still back there be unscrewed and that port plugged or ...? I didn't want to attempt to remove it yet and potentially shoot myself in the foot and introduce a new problem that didn't exist. Right now I've capped both openings but they're still leaking a bit. Here's a picture of what I'm talking about with the orange arrow pointing out the hardline I'm referring to. (it's not my engine by the way):

09-15-2012, 09:55 PM	#10
rxtasy3 rotary madness Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: spartanburg, sc Posts: 78 Rep Power: 16	use an original SE cooler if u can get one, otherwise as mentioned, u can fab a mount for the s4 cooler.

09-16-2012, 09:40 PM	#11
IH8DSM RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 610 Rep Power: 18	Just cap one of the ports with a cap they sell some in the help section of auto zone that are just for blocking coolant. You could always bend it and weld it shut. __________________ 85 rx7 gsl-se - AA tags/ never ending project will never run

09-17-2012, 03:28 PM	#12
fc nut member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lebanon,Ohio Posts: 282 Rep Power: 18	i ditched that idea. i'm gonna use my se engine in my son's car,with a sidedraft setup. i'm gonna use the s4 cooler on his car. __________________ leaving my carbon footprint....one start up at a time

10-31-2012, 06:41 PM	#14
fc nut member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Lebanon,Ohio Posts: 282 Rep Power: 18	thanks for the input,however i've decided to use my se engine in my son's car. __________________ leaving my carbon footprint....one start up at a time