DTSS - Ignore or ditch

My5ABaby · 04-19-2008, 01:41 PM

As you may well know, I'm redoing my suspension system. I'm planning on redoing the rubber which includes the DTSS.

I have two options due to money:
1. Keep what's on there which is 22 years old
2. Replace it with regular bushings (DTSS eliminators)

Any input on what would be better for someone looking for a nice handling car for places like the Dragon?

djmtsu · 04-19-2008, 01:46 PM

I had the DTSS eliminators on my old 91, and they are good for controlled slides, but actually take away from the grip of the rear suspension. The 90 I have now has good working DTSS and I love it, works great.

One thing I noticed. When I had staggered fit wheels and tires (255 out back and 225's up front) the DTSS essentially did not function. The wide rear tires were forcing the rear to keep a straight path, overpowering the smaller front tires.

Once I put the BBS's and 225's all around, I noticed the DTSS return, and I missed it!

My5ABaby · 04-19-2008, 01:54 PM

Hmmmm, I like the concept of the DTSS system. I wonder if it's still working though.

djmtsu · 04-19-2008, 01:55 PM

Use the FSM to check them, I think it shows a way to do it without driving the car.

RoughRex · 04-19-2008, 02:21 PM

Mine still works on my '88. I love it

Go take a long sweeping corner like a cloverleaf off ramp at a reasonably good speed (not too fast obviously, 40-50mph does it for me) and hold the inside line. When it feels like the backend is sliding out but you still have traction... that's the DTSS working.

Boostmaniac · 04-19-2008, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RoughRex

Mine still works on my '88. I love it

Go take a long sweeping corner like a cloverleaf off ramp at a reasonably good speed (not too fast obviously, 40-50mph does it for me) and hold the inside line. When it feels like the backend is sliding out but you still have traction... that's the DTSS working.

I love it but it scares the shit out of me every time initially. (I always start to countersteer into it then realize what it is.)

Ex-Eg-Driver · 04-19-2008, 08:01 PM

What is this DTSS you speak of? jk. jk.

Phoenix7 · 04-21-2008, 07:28 PM

If it aint broke don't fix it. I'm one of the weird ones that might actually replace them with the stock ones if mine ever break. Low speed stability/maneuverability wins in my book. You get used to it.

well uhhh · 04-24-2008, 02:41 PM

DTSS Scares the shit out of me everytime, i cant help it. it just doesn't feel safe to me. just my .02

Phoenix7 · 04-24-2008, 02:47 PM

it was MADE for safety. If you don't feel safe then you're not driving right or the DTSS is broken.

I wish I had better visuals:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=-DgDl9tVTKc

http://youtube.com/watch?v=m4CnBbj2i4Y

Phoenix7 · 04-24-2008, 03:03 PM

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UISFpdj1bBQ

04-19-2008, 01:41 PM	#1
My5ABaby Sigh..... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 2,377 Rep Power: 20	DTSS - Ignore or ditch As you may well know, I'm redoing my suspension system. I'm planning on redoing the rubber which includes the DTSS. I have two options due to money: 1. Keep what's on there which is 22 years old 2. Replace it with regular bushings (DTSS eliminators) Any input on what would be better for someone looking for a nice handling car for places like the Dragon? __________________ 1986 Sport: 132k miles, 5A (Sapphire Blue Metallic), Tokico Blues, Racing Beat Springs, Custom LED tailights (only S4 LED tails in the world), SSR Mark II, Racing Beat exhaust, S5 black interior, Rotary Resurrection rebuild at 120k miles Community Service Manual RotorWiki "Imagination costs nothing; we could build square locomotives or fly to Mars" - Felix Wankel Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

04-19-2008, 01:46 PM	#2
djmtsu My minds tellin' me no... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 4,043 Rep Power: 22	I had the DTSS eliminators on my old 91, and they are good for controlled slides, but actually take away from the grip of the rear suspension. The 90 I have now has good working DTSS and I love it, works great. One thing I noticed. When I had staggered fit wheels and tires (255 out back and 225's up front) the DTSS essentially did not function. The wide rear tires were forcing the rear to keep a straight path, overpowering the smaller front tires. Once I put the BBS's and 225's all around, I noticed the DTSS return, and I missed it! __________________ 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 2003 Toyota Tundra TRD 2015 Toyota 4Runner SR5

04-19-2008, 01:54 PM	#3
My5ABaby Sigh..... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 2,377 Rep Power: 20	Hmmmm, I like the concept of the DTSS system. I wonder if it's still working though. __________________ 1986 Sport: 132k miles, 5A (Sapphire Blue Metallic), Tokico Blues, Racing Beat Springs, Custom LED tailights (only S4 LED tails in the world), SSR Mark II, Racing Beat exhaust, S5 black interior, Rotary Resurrection rebuild at 120k miles Community Service Manual RotorWiki "Imagination costs nothing; we could build square locomotives or fly to Mars" - Felix Wankel Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

04-19-2008, 01:55 PM	#4
djmtsu My minds tellin' me no... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 4,043 Rep Power: 22	Use the FSM to check them, I think it shows a way to do it without driving the car. __________________ 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 2003 Toyota Tundra TRD 2015 Toyota 4Runner SR5

04-19-2008, 02:21 PM	#5
RoughRex Out of Nickels and Dimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 192 Rep Power: 18	Mine still works on my '88. I love it Go take a long sweeping corner like a cloverleaf off ramp at a reasonably good speed (not too fast obviously, 40-50mph does it for me) and hold the inside line. When it feels like the backend is sliding out but you still have traction... that's the DTSS working. __________________ 1988 GXL

04-19-2008, 08:01 PM	#7
Ex-Eg-Driver Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Norcal-209, CA Posts: 45 Rep Power: 0	What is this DTSS you speak of? jk. jk. __________________ 87 RX-7 BASSSEEEEEE Red

04-24-2008, 02:41 PM	#9
well uhhh The Newbie Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 17 Rep Power: 0	DTSS Scares the shit out of me everytime, i cant help it. it just doesn't feel safe to me. just my .02