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Old 04-22-2012, 03:26 AM   #1
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Exclamation Don't be shy bro, you can thank me for your results LOL

PSI or JZN otherwise known as Green Brothers in New Zealand not shy to post his copy of my water injection ideas here > LOL > http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=974884

Shame he got all shy and can't be fucked updating the thread here since I know who he is
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Old 08-14-2012, 05:44 PM   #2
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PSI or JZN otherwise known as Green Brothers in New Zealand not shy to post his copy of my water injection ideas here > LOL > http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=974884

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This is a common mistake for newbies thinking they can run water injection without a CDI ignition system, I read about how you dented your rotor, and make more power by reducing water, the problem you have is you are letting the motor dictate to you how to run due to the lack of ignition power and not you dictating to the motor how it will run safely.

The splitting of your water tank is another common newbie mistake, if you pay close attention to my WI thread (which I know you have!) you will see the detailed construction of my water tank, it is CNC folded and has not welded seems at all in its construction the end caps are folded over and lap welded. This is the only thing that lasts long term in the pressure ranges we run, also you need to use very thick plate, not light shit most cunts use.

I STRONGLY recommend you switch over to WM50, it is vastly superior to running just plain water, again you can experiment yourself on this but I will safe you allot of time and more broken engine parts

The water jet you think you have copied from me is nothing like what I run you will need to work out your quantities for yourself.

The mac valve will work with WM50 not a problem, I know I have been using it for a lot of years with my customers and myself in my own car for the last 2 years.

You are really wasting your time bouncing off ideas on rx7club, they are just a bunch of useless cunts over there with not one idea of much at all.

Feel free to come good on who you really are and feel free to share information here, I am willing to help anyone who is up front and not too scared to hide behind the internet

Best Regards.

I don’t mind if you know who I am. I’d actually forgotten about this thread.

To set the record straight, I did not copy you. I got the idea and basic design from a friend and rotary pioneer in NZ (RIP) who ran water injection in his 13B turbo powered 626 back in the early 80’s. His set up sucked through a sidedraft Weber and he used boost operated pre-carb (pre-turbo) water injection to allow more boost with the hi compression rotors of the day. His water injection idea came from WWII fighters as he was an avid aircraft enthusiast and pilot, even becoming friends with an ex Luftwaffe Me109 pilot on one of his trips abroad (he was sent to Germany and other places by the NZ Govt to look at alternative engine technology during the oil crisis of the 70’s).

Other than the info from my friend, I have read about Pratt & Whitney’s work with water injection, and found some good info on Rx7club by Howard Coleman and a guy ‘rx72c’. I only became interested in water injection a year and a half ago because up until then most of my experience had been with n/a engines.

So I guess if you are accusing me of copying you, then everyone with pre-turbo water injection must have copied you right? Realistically, everyones pre-turbo setups are going to be very similar anyway as there are only two ways of going about it – boost operated or elec pump. I went with what I think to be the simplest and potentially most reliable set up. It is also the cheapest setup as I’m on a tight budget.
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Old 08-15-2012, 03:42 AM   #3
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LOL @ the nice story, more fiction than fact ^
Both of your "readers" off the scum site regurgitate my redundant information and generally what I have been doing for decades so by your own admission you have copied me that's o.k. you are not the first and for sure will not be the last

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Old 08-17-2012, 09:12 PM   #4
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Thought you might have entered WTAC this year with the car running well?

Quick question, IIRC yuo were running your solenoid at something like 2000hz (much faster than the response speed of the solenoid which is ~6.5ms?? anyway) so in effect you are using it (floating partial open) like an analogue valve rather than cycling on/off to achieve your mapped flow. Do you use a flyback diode over teh solenoid, and how linear to DC% is the flow rate curve (at any fixed feed pressure)?

You still happy with the dynatek CDI box/coils?
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What was fucken intensely funny was seeing that GT Auto molested engine in the NEMO evo, I video'd it at EC and estimated it only had 500bhp LOL. Got flammed by some nobody **** on the internet cause the owner said it has 900HP at the wheels, then some dick head moderator on Ausrotary posts up that the engine did indeed have issues and it was dyno'd @ some dick workshop with 430rwkw LOL LOL LOL..........

Car weight is like 900kg 100kmh to 200kmh in 6.2 seconds
You do the maths, I did, even with a boat anchor (gayest aero on earth) out the back lucky if it made 500bhp at the event that I saw with my own two eyes.

That event and most in it are cunts, useless cunts.

I'd much rather go watch Pikes Peak where real engineers compete, with REAL 1000bhp cars, and real speed to match.

p.s. it's 2012 and still with 2.2lt these arse clowns cant make 1/2 the power that F1 made with 1.5lt and 30 years ago....... that scene is a joke.
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Old 08-17-2012, 10:48 PM   #6
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One car I did say was worth watching in real life was the Tilton interiors EVO! that thing was an animal with what I worked out as 800bhp at the engine.

Still low compared to last years efforts and they have a LONG way to go till they step it up to where the power levels should be. Honestly if we give them 10 years we might see some 1000bhp cars......... see what happens

I think all the real brains just are into other things mate, only the dregs do that Time Attack Rubbish so there is a lag till you see repeated what was done before by other "smart" people.

I'd like to see a modern version of a Porsche 917/30

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Rear wheel drive
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1500bhp!
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circa 1973 !


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The 917/30 was the most powerful sports car racer ever built and raced. The 5.374-litre 12 cylinder (90.0 x 70.4 mm) twin-turbocharged engine could produce 1,580 bhp (1,180 kW) in qualifying tune[citation needed], with twin turbochargers run up to full boost, 39 psi (2.7 bar), though it usually raced with around 1,100 bhp (820 kW) at 7,800 rpm to preserve the engine. Weighing 1,800 lb (820 kg), giving it a power to weight of 1967.36 bhp/tonne in qualifying tune and 1369.68 bhp/tonne in race tune. The 917/30 dominated the Can-Am series during the 1973 season. The 917/30 could go from 0-62 mph (100 km/h) in 1.9 seconds, 0-100 mph (160 km/h) in 3.9 seconds, 0-200 mph (320 km/h) in 10.9 seconds, and on to a top speed of more than 260 mph (420 km/h)[citation needed]. The high-level of performance and attendant fuel consumption of the engines, and ever increasing risk, has led to the 917/30 sometimes being cited as the car that killed Can-Am racing[citation needed]. The 917 was also the only championship winning car in Can Am not to be powered by Chevrolet.
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Old 08-18-2012, 07:33 AM   #7
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Exclamation TA = play thing for nobodies

Just to reinforce how full of shit those NEMO/GT Auto garage cunts are .........
Time Attack crowd in general (Hype Master).

Millen Toyota Tacoma
Running more down force than the wanker EVO abortion
Real 1000bhp @ Engine (3SGTE IMSA 2.1lt engine) 745kw
100kmh to 200kmh = 3.3 seconds!!!!




Millen Jnr Hyundai
Again more down force, similar weight
Only 520 kw engine
30kmh to 200kmh in 6 seconds flat!







Compre proven performer to this joke below (VBOX proven sub standard power! LOL)
Remember EMO EVO needs 6.2+ seconds to do 100kmh to 200kmh. It is very low in power more like 450bhp to 500bhp @ engine range like I said in Ian luffs shit youtube site lol where cunts were spewing out HYPE 900awhp rants LOL.
^^^^^ *ALSO* engine issues code for massive blow by (cabin full of smoke, smoke pissing out of engine on last corner onto main straight!) due to detonated motor trying to run more boost LOL!!!!, all that at ~500bhp let alone 900hp at wheels BS! fucking plastic trophy wannabe's learning to tune LOL.

Time Attack can claim the goods when you see a sub 3 second 100kmh to 200kmh acceleration and over 200mph @ Eastern Creek on the highest down force you can dream up (using a prod car body shape and 1000kg run weight)........... then welcome to 30 years ago where F1 was doing it on Atari PC equipment and stock std BMW engine blocks
long long long way to go till the hype catches up with engineering reality... but it keeps the kiddies and loosers and the general after market battler industry going, so I suppose its a win, thank god generation useless is so stupid, otherwise they would have worked out that these really are nothing cars in the grand scheme of things.
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