800+rwhp 13B PP

[forcefed7]

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

On the road in the real world with quick transient conditions that thing would not develop full boost till 6k rpm or more in 2nd or 3rd gears especially, so far as 4k to 5k forget it.

It's a really nice set up for high power dyno competitions though

If you send me the vehicle run weight along with a VBOX .vbo or .dbn file, I'll see what power it makes on the street when you do an acceleration test with it, with that gearing though to do 100kmh to 200kmh you will probably be using 2nd and 3rd gears at a guess, rather than 3rd and 4th like we do.

It's not as "laggy" as you might think, but even if it didn't make full boost until 6k it still has a usable rev range of another 4800rpm. Assuming grip is equal, 2nd and 3rd gear will higher acceleration rates. Unfortunately I don't own a VBOX to be able to send you a log file.

You never commented on what you consider to be acceptable torque output at 5-5.5k and you term "high engine rpm"

[RICE RACING]

Race Logic Drift Box or Performance Box are very cheap entry point to do some real world testing, you should buy one and test that car for us

[forcefed7]

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

Race Logic Drift Box or Performance Box are very cheap entry point to do some real world testing, you should buy one and test that car for us

Cheap is relative, but that's besides the point. I have a chassis dyno that offers me the ability to have a controlled, repeatable, safe environment to perform testing. Constant, repeatable data, that almost takes the operator completely out of the equation. Having this type of testing equipment is a bit more practical for me.

I am a fan of Race Logic products, I've just never had a need that I could justify the cost.

[RICE RACING]

150mph in 1/4 mile????

For less than 1k you can by a Drift box or even less for a Performance box, with nearly 900bhp 13B on tap you would be mad to not invest in one of these and show everyone just how fast that bad boy is out in the real world.

So you should list up some detailed specs on it for everyone to drool over

[RICE RACING]

So how long does this motor last using 10,000+rpm? what does the old man use it for? (dyno competitions only?)

I probably would not recommend trying to accelerate in 2nd or 3rd gear unless you want to warranty his gearbox hahaha

I'm sure we could muster up enough donations off this forums membership to buy PFS a basic cheap VBOX so you could post up some acceleration figures from this bad boy

[forcefed7]

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

So how long does this motor last using 10,000+rpm? what does the old man use it for? (dyno competitions only?)

I probably would not recommend trying to accelerate in 2nd or 3rd gear unless you want to warranty his gearbox hahaha

I'm sure we could muster up enough donations off this forums membership to buy PFS a basic cheap VBOX so you could post up some acceleration figures from this bad boy

I can tell you I had over a hundred dyno pulls on the engine before I disassembled it. Early on I was struggling with a few things on this build, one being steel apex seals and being paranoid of warping them. When I disassembled the engine everything looked just like it should. I took my measurements, made my changes, and reassembled it.

If you keep the mechanical, and thermal limits in check what makes you think it wouldn't sustain long term use?

If you provide the VBOX and I will supply the data, but we both know it's a waste of time for a few reasons.

1) 7/8 of the people on here will not be able to effectively interpret the data, and will likely just go along with whatever you say as being definitively correct. This in itself could be because you are very technical, or they fear the possible public confrontation on the forum if they challenge your opinion.

2) Dynojet are unbias, the operator can't create it's own correction factors and or start the loading process before starting the dyno run, there are no sweep speeds etc.. Sure, you and I know that there are more effective tuning tools/dynos then a dynojet. But once the tuning is done and a vehicle is measure on a dynojet those numbers will match when the vehicle is taken to another dynojet dyno. That's not going to be the case most of the time with the other dyno because the operator of the dyno can influence the results.

3) With your capabilities you can easily take the data I already provided and calculate acceleration rates and averages. Whether you want to admit it or not we both know that the power level is exceptional and broad.
and all the Vbox is going to prove is just that, the power is exceptional and broad.

BTW, I'm not sure what the guys age has to do with anything, but don't kid yourself. Old age comes for all of us that are fortunate enough to endure it.

[RICE RACING]

I am not doubting anything you say PFS man, just I want to see more fast FD's out on the road where they belong

Let me know when you have some acceleration data from this car

E-Mail me and I'll see what I can do to procure you some test gear to facilitate a test. Also how heavy is the car?

[forcefed7]

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

150mph in 1/4 mile????

For less than 1k you can by a Drift box or even less for a Performance box, with nearly 900bhp 13B on tap you would be mad to not invest in one of these and show everyone just how fast that bad boy is out in the real world.

So you should list up some detailed specs on it for everyone to drool over

Call me mad, but I'd rather have the 1k in my pocket instead sitting on the shelf with everybody and their brother wanting to "borrow" it.

Detail specs? What do you want to know?

It's doubtful I'll be able to provide you with anything insightful or to your satisfaction, but I can try.