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[RICE RACING]

http://www.ecm-co.com/category.asp?afra

These are better than Horiba. And local to you.

[RETed]

Originally Posted by RICE RACING

http://www.ecm-co.com/category.asp?afra

These are better than Horiba. And local to you.

Funny, you mention them...
I remember talking to their reps back in 95...96 at a trade show (SEMA).
The pics / brochure looked exactly like the webpage 15 years ago!
The reps were not interested when we mentioned performance and racing as an application.
They were more proficient when it came to OEM applications and emissions (i.e. California smog).
That kinda left a bad impression with me although they do have very nice equipment.


-Ted

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by RETed

Funny, you mention them...
I remember talking to their reps back in 95...96 at a trade show (SEMA).
The pics / brochure looked exactly like the webpage 15 years ago!
The reps were not interested when we mentioned performance and racing as an application.
They were more proficient when it came to OEM applications and emissions (i.e. California smog).
That kinda left a bad impression with me although they do have very nice equipment.


-Ted

I keep going on and on like a broken record, but the Autronic B Model is actually far more widely used than any of those other higher priced ones amount OEM lab's and racers, its got features that even the Horiba and ECM do not have and its far more applicable to us.

I still use mine on jobs where the customer has ca$h, for the other ghetto work I use the same as HKS do and that is the Neko AF700 (a great portable unit, and ONLY one with hand calibrated individual sensors, only other people who do this are McLaren Electronics *yes the F1 team! sparks division*).

And for super ghetto work I used to use my Innovate LM-1 but I gave it away for free to a person who had no idea about AFR toys, funnily enough he found the exact same "glitches" as Innovate have been shitting on and on about since Klause first invented His "system" & "lean misfire excuses" we then fitted up the Autronic and the glitches and lean misfires went away LOL!

Moral is if you want a toy you buy a toy if you want a piece of scientific grade equipment you pay the money, you long forget how much you paid when an item works and is correct. YOU WILL NEVER FORGET HOW MUCH OF A TOTAL PIECE OF SHIT that toy AFR gauge is REGARDLESS OF HOW MUCH MONEY YOU SAVED INITIALLY.