1 msd 6a + 2 ls1 or 2 coils need opinons

IH8DSM · 03-15-2011, 01:09 AM

I need better spark i tried the 2gen direct fire but it didn't last long. Is anyone running a single msd 6a and ls coils?

Just trying to find a good direct fire set up that will be reliable and handle my holley 600 cause right now my single blaster coil just isn't cutting it

FC Zach · 03-15-2011, 02:31 AM

MSD 6A and 2 Jacobs Electronics Ultra-Coils

$86.61 at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Jacobs-380876-.../dp/B000BWE1PC

FC Zach · 03-15-2011, 02:43 AM

I chose these mainly for the cycling ability

vex · 03-15-2011, 09:32 AM

I'm going direct fire with mercury quicksilver coils. Supposedly extremely strong when TTT did coil testing, don't know if they'd work for your specific application, but might want to consider them if you haven't yet.

IH8DSM · 03-15-2011, 10:19 AM

I've heard about the Jacobs and the mercurys. I'll prolly just end up doing the Jacobs since me and zach have similar set ups. I'll look into the mercurys some as well.

Just seen a few build using ls1/2 coils and wasn't sure if they were as good as the aftermarket.

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-15-2011, 11:22 AM

LS1 coils suck. Fuck those things. They wet fouled on a rebuilt after 15 minutes of runtime. LS1 coils suck. LS2, from the research I did on the LS1 forums, V8 lamo's are picking up 15hp swapping to LS2 coils. And I found one guy who strapped his truck down, ran it with the LS1 coils, and then without taking the truck off the dyno swapped the LS2 coils in and picked up something like 15rwhp. So there might be something in the LS2 coils, I just haven't had the opportunity to test them back to back like I would prefer to.
Vex is rightm the Quicksilver coils are STOUT units, without a dount, good coils. but big, and they have an internal ignitor and some other internal electrical trickery as well. I still owe C Ludwig a phone call

IH8DSM · 03-15-2011, 10:01 PM

What kind of eletrical trickery ? Like guttin a ignitor or more then that, I'm not the biggest electrical fan so what would be the simpler option

FC Zach · 03-15-2011, 11:15 PM

If this helps, here you go.
http://www.hrpworld.com/client_image...ader/766_1.pdf

t_g_farrell · 03-17-2011, 08:47 AM

I'm running HEIs as ignitors and 2 FORD TFI coils and the sparks is excellent.
The HEIs are just standard 4 prong ones (DR100s) and the TFI coils are
from the boneyard off of FORD F150 pickups. Its cheap and its a very good
spark. I dropped trailing altogether. I have a write up on the other forum
with details.

If you need to run higher than 8K I would recommend HO HEI and better after
market TFI coils or maybe these LS2 thingies folks are talking about here.

FC Zach · 03-17-2011, 09:22 AM

Yeah I like your set-up, I recommend the TFI coils. The coil referenced up top is pretty much the same thing just an aftermarket fancied-up version. In fact those coils actually come with the standard 2-spade style connection now, reason why my 2 older direct fires are screw-on terminals and the newer trailing is what i just mentioned.

03-15-2011, 01:09 AM	#1
IH8DSM RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 610 Rep Power: 18	1 msd 6a + 2 ls1 or 2 coils need opinons I need better spark i tried the 2gen direct fire but it didn't last long. Is anyone running a single msd 6a and ls coils? Just trying to find a good direct fire set up that will be reliable and handle my holley 600 cause right now my single blaster coil just isn't cutting it __________________ 85 rx7 gsl-se - AA tags/ never ending project will never run

03-15-2011, 02:31 AM	#2
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 20	MSD 6A and 2 Jacobs Electronics Ultra-Coils $86.61 at Amazon http://www.amazon.com/Jacobs-380876-.../dp/B000BWE1PC __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4 Last edited by FC Zach; 03-15-2011 at 02:35 AM.

03-15-2011, 09:32 AM	#4
vex RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Influx. Posts: 2,113 Rep Power: 19	I'm going direct fire with mercury quicksilver coils. Supposedly extremely strong when TTT did coil testing, don't know if they'd work for your specific application, but might want to consider them if you haven't yet. __________________ The Official FC Radiator Thread My Project Thread: Cerberus CCVT Virginia Rotary Group

03-15-2011, 10:19 AM	#5
IH8DSM RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 610 Rep Power: 18	I've heard about the Jacobs and the mercurys. I'll prolly just end up doing the Jacobs since me and zach have similar set ups. I'll look into the mercurys some as well. Just seen a few build using ls1/2 coils and wasn't sure if they were as good as the aftermarket. __________________ 85 rx7 gsl-se - AA tags/ never ending project will never run

03-15-2011, 11:22 AM	#6
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	LS1 coils suck. Fuck those things. They wet fouled on a rebuilt after 15 minutes of runtime. LS1 coils suck. LS2, from the research I did on the LS1 forums, V8 lamo's are picking up 15hp swapping to LS2 coils. And I found one guy who strapped his truck down, ran it with the LS1 coils, and then without taking the truck off the dyno swapped the LS2 coils in and picked up something like 15rwhp. So there might be something in the LS2 coils, I just haven't had the opportunity to test them back to back like I would prefer to. Vex is rightm the Quicksilver coils are STOUT units, without a dount, good coils. but big, and they have an internal ignitor and some other internal electrical trickery as well. I still owe C Ludwig a phone call __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

03-15-2011, 10:01 PM	#7
IH8DSM RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 610 Rep Power: 18	What kind of eletrical trickery ? Like guttin a ignitor or more then that, I'm not the biggest electrical fan so what would be the simpler option __________________ 85 rx7 gsl-se - AA tags/ never ending project will never run

03-15-2011, 11:15 PM	#8
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 20	If this helps, here you go. http://www.hrpworld.com/client_image...ader/766_1.pdf __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4

03-17-2011, 08:47 AM	#9
t_g_farrell Waffles - hmmm good Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 757 Rep Power: 0	I'm running HEIs as ignitors and 2 FORD TFI coils and the sparks is excellent. The HEIs are just standard 4 prong ones (DR100s) and the TFI coils are from the boneyard off of FORD F150 pickups. Its cheap and its a very good spark. I dropped trailing altogether. I have a write up on the other forum with details. If you need to run higher than 8K I would recommend HO HEI and better after market TFI coils or maybe these LS2 thingies folks are talking about here. __________________ 1980 GS stockport, Fat Nikki, RB Dual Facetfuel pumps, Holley regulator, RB Street port exhaust, 2GDFIS, MR2 MK I electric fans, 2G strut bar, relayed fans, lights and fuel pump, LEDs Project Fat Nikki Budget 12A rebuild Video setup < $30.00

03-17-2011, 09:22 AM	#10
FC Zach RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Eagleville, TN Posts: 2,267 Rep Power: 20	Yeah I like your set-up, I recommend the TFI coils. The coil referenced up top is pretty much the same thing just an aftermarket fancied-up version. In fact those coils actually come with the standard 2-spade style connection now, reason why my 2 older direct fires are screw-on terminals and the newer trailing is what i just mentioned. __________________ 1993 Yamaha GTS1000 1992 Celica Turbo AllTrac 1987 RX7 Sport 1979 Yamaha G1, KM24 powered 1975 Dolmar KMS4