Stumbled over from "the evil forum"

My5ABaby · 06-11-2010, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection

I'm just not going to let people come over here and tell us that we shouldn't show disdain for the evil forum, we should forgive, etc. F*** that. They haven't seen fit to "forgive and forget" by reopening our accounts yet. That would be a show of good faith but they arent willing to take that step. So, keep your "live and let live" BS to yourself, mmmmkay?

There's a difference between showing disdain and outright bashing every chance possible. That I've noticed Kevin you haven't really outright bashed, at least that I can recall lately. Your posts about the 7 club tend to be more factual.

However, the whole "they haven't seen fit" thing is just crap. Unless I'm mistaking you (please correct me if I am), that's saying we're going to sink toward their level (albeit not to it as RCC is far cooler) until they change.

Sure the 7 club screwed the community. Sure a lot of people got the shaft, some even DVDA-ed. But that was how long ago? How long is this going to go on? Even a self-respecting and mature guy whose wife cheated on him would have kicked the bitch to the curb and moved on by now. Hell, people continue to bitch about Icemark and he's been dead for over a year...

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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection

Don't you guys get it? We don't want to be goody-goody friends with rx7club.

I never thought for an instant that we want to be goody-goody friends with the 7 club. There is 0% of me that thinks we should help them in any way. All I'm saying is that we should take the high road. Members are coming to get away from the bullshit on the 7 club (e.g. bashing) so why continue to expose them to it? What's gained by continuing?

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"Some people see what they want to see, but some others see what is. The world of appearance is more appealing than reality to many."

Nobody sees "what is". Everyone has their own viewpoint on things and the world of appearance is more appealing to EVERYONE. If you wanted an accurate quote as opposed to one that insinuates that your viewpoint is "what is", it should be "Everyone sees what they want to see. The world of appearance is more appealing than reality". That's human nature. However, there are facts to be had such bashing on stuff is negative. Negativity is unpleasant. People are turned away from unpleasant things. I think where we disagree is that you believe your self-serving bashing is a positive and I don't.

***TitaniumTT*** · 06-12-2010, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by My5ABaby

There's a difference between showing disdain and outright bashing every chance possible. That I've noticed Kevin you haven't really outright bashed, at least that I can recall lately. Your posts about the 7 club tend to be more factual.

I've noticed that as well and it's somewhat refreshing

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Originally Posted by My5ABaby

Nobody sees "what is". Everyone has their own viewpoint on things and the world of appearance is more appealing to EVERYONE. If you wanted an accurate quote as opposed to one that insinuates that your viewpoint is "what is", it should be "Everyone sees what they want to see. The world of appearance is more appealing than reality". That's human nature. However, there are facts to be had such bashing on stuff is negative. Negativity is unpleasant. People are turned away from unpleasant things. I think where we disagree is that you believe your self-serving bashing is a positive and I don't.

My5ABaby · 06-12-2010, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by RotaryResurrection

Speaking for myself, I dont go around bashing 7club for the fun of it. I dont bring it up in conversation. But if someone ELSE brings it up or mentions it, or asks me about it...what should I say? I'm not the type to beat around the bush...if you ask a straight question you will get a straight answer, like it or not. I'm going to call a spade a spade, that's just the way it is.

Going back to the exgf/wife analogy, you are out at dinner among friends and one of your friends brings up your ex, your first comment is likely going to be "f*ck that bitch". Whether or not you are with someone new is irrelevant. If it was a bad breakup and someone you really cared a lot about, you are going to have that feeling about them for as long as you are alive. IF not, then you were not really ever passionate about it.

IF you were to go around and every day at lunch with your friends, at work, at home, constantly you were saying "man, that ex gf of mine is a bitch, f*ck that whore..." then yeah, you would be going way too far with it.

That's not what is happening here. Someone else brought it up, we are just responding. There's nothing wrong or unnatural about that. And yes, it's likely to always be that way, at least for me, as long as I am part of the community. When the day comes that I walk away from rotaries for good, then I will cease to care about the 7club debacle along with it. Until then, I am still reminded of it on a weekly basis, and I will continue to carry the flag and let everyone know why there is a problem with the way they do things.

Hmmmmm, you make very valid points. I reread the posts prior to my first one and have a better picture at this point. I have a tendency to skim until something catches my eye. My posts are also a reaction to something that has been bothering me for some time. However, I will say that it seems to be contagious. The first time the 7 club is mentioned it's like a plague descends that continually escalates. I will also say that you tend to go about it factually and educate people rather than spewing crap.

I think this sums it up well:

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Long story short, several years ago 7club was purchased by a large corporation that jacked up vendor rates in the hundreds per month to advertise on their forum. Lots of long time small vendors could not pay the high rates and were not allowed to sell on their forum. RCC was started to allow all members and vendors to sell rotary parts online with ZERO fee's.

Why support a rotary forum who does not support your rotary vendors. We can provide everything that you need here and also when you click refresh the site does not take 20 seconds+ to load.

Welcome to the all #1 all rotary forum. Visit often!

Perhaps I just try to keep a positive outlook on things. I think it would most beneficial to just point out the positives of RCC rather than the negatives of the 7 club. There's a reason why commercials advertise the positive qualities of a product rather than why their competitors suck.

"Forum A has an open and mature environment that allows members to speak without fear of unwarranted banning. In Forum A's continuing effort to help the community, vendors and members are able to sell items at no charge. On top of all that you get unparalleled support from extremely knowledgeable members".

"Forum B allows members to sell free unlike the 7 club that charges ridiculous fees. I've also been banned numerous times by asshat moderators on the 7 club. Unlike the 7 club, the management at Forum B aren't a bunch of dbags who are out to make a buck. The 7 club is also full of dumbasses"

Forum A or Forum B? My choice is easy.