So I remember...

$100T2 · 03-04-2008, 08:13 PM

Somebody on some forum was talking about adapting second gen lower control arms to the FB.

Anybody know if that was ever successful??? Can it be done? Is it something we can work out here amongst ourselves?

djmtsu · 03-04-2008, 08:16 PM

I would contact Billy at ReSpeed. It seems like he has alot of resto-mod experience with FB's, and I thought it was him.

I believe he has a sub-forum as well.

rx7carl · 03-05-2008, 08:44 PM

Omid and I believe someone else adapted the entire front suspension from an FC into a 1st gen. Actually didnt look all that difficult.

aussiesmg · 03-06-2008, 07:13 PM

I think it all comes down to the steering linkage and limited suspension travel

$100T2 · 03-08-2008, 08:59 PM

Can the subframe from the FB be removed, and have the subframe from the FC modified and put in along with the FC steering?

I like how much more solid the FC control arms are over the FB.

rx7carl · 03-24-2008, 07:32 PM

I think so. But how will you mount the engine?

WE3RX7 · 03-24-2008, 08:56 PM

I believe I've heard of the FC subframe being put under the FB - dont know the details though, but if somebody has a few parts cars and wants to check it out, lol...

djmtsu · 03-24-2008, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by rx7carl

I think so. But how will you mount the engine?

If you use the whole FC subframe, you could then easily swap in an FC engine. Instant EFI!!!

staticpat · 03-24-2008, 09:59 PM

I've read on a rally board about that setup. It makes sense since there are a lot more suspension bits available for the FC. Not to mention better brakes, 5 lugs etc. I don't remember the specifics, but the subframe is supposedly a pretty close match. As mentioned, you'd be best off installing a 2nd gen engine with that setup. When I have more time I'll try and finding some more solid information. This is an idea I've been playing with in my mind.

$100T2 · 03-24-2008, 10:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rx7carl

I think so. But how will you mount the engine?

V8... Custom mounts anyway.

staticpat · 03-25-2008, 09:49 PM

Apparently a few people have swapped the whole front suspension. Here's a very brief overview.

Quote:

Swapping to the 2nd gen suspension will require:
- Mounting the 2nd gen cross member (some holes, some welding)
- Attaching engine to 2nd gen cross member
- Attaching steering wheel to 2nd gen cross member
- a new pair of wheels up front that won't match your rear, unless you go four-lug and have GSL-SE in the rear.
- Close loop on 2nd gen steering rack (or add power steering pump)

jgrewe · 03-26-2008, 07:50 AM

I've got a complete FC front suspension laying outside my shop if you want me to measure stuff for you. The whole assembly would be the easiest way to do it. You could probably take it all the way into the interior and have a tilt column from the FC pretty easily.

$100T2 · 04-01-2008, 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jgrewe

I've got a complete FC front suspension laying outside my shop if you want me to measure stuff for you. The whole assembly would be the easiest way to do it. You could probably take it all the way into the interior and have a tilt column from the FC pretty easily.

Yeah, measure it if you don't mind (or sell it to me

) and let me know. I'm doing a whole new dash anyway, so I don't mind bringing the FC steering along for the ride.

jgrewe · 04-17-2008, 08:51 PM

I was walking around and tripped over the subframe and remembered this thread.

The front holes one the FC subframe are 31" apart, the rear holes are 31 7/8" apart, the front to back spacing of the holes is 13". The ball joint line is right around 1 7/8" to 2" behind the front holes. Those should get you a pretty good idea when you combine them with the published track width etc.

Any other specifics let me know. IIRC the height at the holes was all equal, I'll double check though.

whitey85mtu · 04-26-2008, 07:38 PM

there's a writeup on the evil forum in the archives on how to install the FC subframe in the FB

03-04-2008, 08:13 PM	#1
$100T2 Big Daddy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 419 Rep Power: 18	So I remember... Somebody on some forum was talking about adapting second gen lower control arms to the FB. Anybody know if that was ever successful??? Can it be done? Is it something we can work out here amongst ourselves? __________________ Hell hath no fury like a rotor blown.

03-04-2008, 08:16 PM	#2
djmtsu My minds tellin' me no... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN Posts: 4,043 Rep Power: 22	I would contact Billy at ReSpeed. It seems like he has alot of resto-mod experience with FB's, and I thought it was him. I believe he has a sub-forum as well. __________________ 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 1976 Mazda Cosmo RX-5 2003 Toyota Tundra TRD 2015 Toyota 4Runner SR5

03-05-2008, 08:44 PM	#3
rx7carl Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 59 Rep Power: 18	Omid and I believe someone else adapted the entire front suspension from an FC into a 1st gen. Actually didnt look all that difficult. __________________ www.pbandjracing.com

03-06-2008, 07:13 PM	#4
aussiesmg Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Convoy, Ohio Posts: 39 Rep Power: 0	I think it all comes down to the steering linkage and limited suspension travel __________________ 84 GSL with 5.0 SBF and T5 85 GS with 350 SBC and 350 trans, GRM Challenger

03-08-2008, 08:59 PM	#5
$100T2 Big Daddy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 419 Rep Power: 18	Can the subframe from the FB be removed, and have the subframe from the FC modified and put in along with the FC steering? I like how much more solid the FC control arms are over the FB. __________________ Hell hath no fury like a rotor blown.

03-24-2008, 07:32 PM	#6
rx7carl Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Orlando, Fl Posts: 59 Rep Power: 18	I think so. But how will you mount the engine? __________________ www.pbandjracing.com

03-24-2008, 08:56 PM	#7
WE3RX7 RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: VA Posts: 1,812 Rep Power: 19	I believe I've heard of the FC subframe being put under the FB - dont know the details though, but if somebody has a few parts cars and wants to check it out, lol...

03-24-2008, 09:59 PM	#9
staticpat Rally Fanboy Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: New York Posts: 147 Rep Power: 18	I've read on a rally board about that setup. It makes sense since there are a lot more suspension bits available for the FC. Not to mention better brakes, 5 lugs etc. I don't remember the specifics, but the subframe is supposedly a pretty close match. As mentioned, you'd be best off installing a 2nd gen engine with that setup. When I have more time I'll try and finding some more solid information. This is an idea I've been playing with in my mind.

03-26-2008, 07:50 AM	#12
jgrewe Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: On the Beach Posts: 59 Rep Power: 18	I've got a complete FC front suspension laying outside my shop if you want me to measure stuff for you. The whole assembly would be the easiest way to do it. You could probably take it all the way into the interior and have a tilt column from the FC pretty easily. __________________ New rat from the sinking ship.

04-17-2008, 08:51 PM	#14
jgrewe Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: On the Beach Posts: 59 Rep Power: 18	I was walking around and tripped over the subframe and remembered this thread. The front holes one the FC subframe are 31" apart, the rear holes are 31 7/8" apart, the front to back spacing of the holes is 13". The ball joint line is right around 1 7/8" to 2" behind the front holes. Those should get you a pretty good idea when you combine them with the published track width etc. Any other specifics let me know. IIRC the height at the holes was all equal, I'll double check though. __________________ New rat from the sinking ship.

04-26-2008, 07:38 PM	#15
whitey85mtu Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 69 Rep Power: 18	there's a writeup on the evil forum in the archives on how to install the FC subframe in the FB