Maximum boost thread (93 oct > pump petrol/gasoline only!)

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by Kwerks

This is my favorite thread! <3

Mine too

[Brad]

rice, in the near future i will try to post up some of my logs from my link in my t04z fd with wm50 (post turbo sorry). did you get the wire-in xtreme ecu or the plugin fd ecu? if the wire-in, did you use the standard vehicle speed input to the stock computer for logging purposes?

Brad.

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by Brad

rice, in the near future i will try to post up some of my logs from my link in my t04z fd with wm50 (post turbo sorry). did you get the wire-in xtreme ecu or the plugin fd ecu? if the wire-in, did you use the standard vehicle speed input to the stock computer for logging purposes?

Brad.

ECU board fitted inside original Mazda ECU case in my car, just cause its a super rare SP factory RX7.

Don't be sorry, more people who run these cars and at this level the better, you are part of a very exclusive club

stock speed sensor, calibrated off my Race Logic GPS, but still these things are out due to wheel slip, still not a bad reference if you have non high quality speed trace via race logic gear.

[RICE RACING]

So, in 20+ years one thing has remained constant............. FUCK ALL people know how to make a true road going 13B this fast People come, people go, fortunes are squandered and promises are broken, but still there is only one constant and that is that FUCK ALL people can make these engines as fast and as reliable as I have proven since back before the advent of the internet and the useless cunts that post on them in forums lol.

You don't just see this in this useless space, you see it in everything from Pikes Peak, to your local sports racing series and the new fangeled world of "time attack" worlds latest trend of cock bag no bodies claiming to be the world leaders LOL.

Even Mazda Japan gave up on the turbocharged 13B in mid 1980's in the 717C cause it sent them broke trying to keep up with far smaller piston turbo's ....... they sold out! and went NA 3 rotor then 4 rotor.

The older I get the more I realize water injection is the only hope for turbo rotaries, and still people just do not get it LOL. Ahhhhhh all hail generation useless and the IT generation of cock gaggers LOL

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by Brad

rice, in the near future i will try to post up some of my logs from my link in my t04z fd with wm50 (post turbo sorry). did you get the wire-in xtreme ecu or the plugin fd ecu? if the wire-in, did you use the standard vehicle speed input to the stock computer for logging purposes?

Brad.

Got Milk?

I see you had to help out HC to get his car running lol....
Anyway post up some figures of what you got from your T04Z FD set up and WM50.

Don Mega gag factor power sooooooooon? Got some new shit I really should post up but some pretenders may nek themselves when they see how many years behind the game they are LOL.



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[RICE RACING]

WTAC is a hack event with near zero return on investment anyway you cut it, so no need to waste sponsors or my money entering it, especially at the vastly inflated prices they stung entrants for this year. You only need look at the caliber of people who never come back to it from Sierra Sierra to the hobo classes in open or ghetto classes in clubsprint....... Being a real road car not run on faggot E85 I can drive my own superlap any time I feel like it and anywhere don't need to pay some **** for the honor OR waste thousands on tires or other consumables "racing" < LOL agains other loosers for a $10 plastic trophy.

I never run the solenoid at 2000 times per second.

I run a CDI system yes.

[RETed]

Okay, if people feel the need to make new accounts to talk shit in this thread, then I'm going to start to delete more liberally.

Sure, RICE RACING is kept on a long leash, but at least he offers technical information.
If all you're going to do is submit a reply just to crap on him, then I'm deleting it.
If you want to call his BS, submit objective facts.
If your ego can't take his...choice of words, then don't read.

Oh, and it's obvious that anyone who knows anything about racing that those race results were due to something being seriously wrong with the vehicle to be able to put up a more respectable time.
But then again...I wouldn't be surprised if RR did that just to piss of the race organizers on purpose.

EDIT / ADDENDUM: The user whose reply I've deleted is supposedly legit and registered initially / solely to submit the single reply. Apologies if this is the case, but it does not look good for you if that was your first post on a forum. Whatever the case, the reply was still meant as an attack on RR's credibility, and I still stand on my decision to delete the reply in the first place; it does not directly address this thread or add any additional information - reminder: this is a TECH section. Although this forum does not have a central ToU page, if you have any questions on what you should or should not be doing, I will refer you to this lin:
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-forum-etiquette.htm



-Ted

[RICE RACING]

Back on topic ......... We have got a few real men who are upgrading and fitting water injection and will be updating this thread shortly......... the only ever real way proven over the years to match those in line ~2lt 4cyl engines (the real ones not TA cars LOL) that are making near 1000bhp.

And will be proven with the real measures like in my 100kmh to 200kmh thread too no hype dubious doctored BS dyno sheets

[ROT8WA]

I await the upcoming info with baited breath.

I just wanted to note from my POV I seem to have noticed that some of the workshops that seem to be really successful or "look successful" are the ones who rip people off talking shit and marketing the crap out of things to a degree. Fudging Dyno figures to make their inflated ego's more bloated than a gonad with elephantitis.

And the honest ones have a hard time getting in front...

Other info that I would love to see would be logs/data of a rotary powered vehicle that is running a water injection system on a fairly high boost level say +18psi on OZY 98 pump through a "constant" "non stop"duration of say 5-6 laps. I would love to see how well this thermodynamic system works through torturous transient track style conditions. This to me is the ultimate test of Water Injection limits.

[PSI]

I've managed to get up to 40.5psi so far, still on 98 octane pump fuel (93 octane USA) and water injection. Still running inductive ignition and $3 sparkplugs with a massive 60" plug gap with no sign of misfire. The dyno says 740rwhp at 38psi. Whether it's accurate or not at that hp level I don't know. What I do know is that 40.5psi from a 75mm turbo is a fair amount of power. Enough to trap almost 156mph on the 1/4 mile anyway. I'll be going back on the dyno soon to try another couple of ideas I have, and probably more boost. It's at the point of diminished returns now though, we're almost out of compressor and I believe the turbine is starting to choke now also. We'll be fitting a larger turbo in the off season I think. Still sticking with the Series 5 engine/intake (TII) at this point.

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by PSI

I've managed to get up to 40.5psi so far, still on 98 octane pump fuel (93 octane USA) and water injection. Still running inductive ignition and $3 sparkplugs with a massive 60" plug gap with no sign of misfire. The dyno says 740rwhp at 38psi. Whether it's accurate or not at that hp level I don't know. What I do know is that 40.5psi from a 75mm turbo is a fair amount of power. Enough to trap almost 156mph on the 1/4 mile anyway. I'll be going back on the dyno soon to try another couple of ideas I have, and probably more boost. It's at the point of diminished returns now though, we're almost out of compressor and I believe the turbine is starting to choke now also. We'll be fitting a larger turbo in the off season I think. Still sticking with the Series 5 engine/intake (TII) at this point.

Good job, oh and nice mullet

[Rotary Evolution]

braver than i, i've only ran up to 25psi on 50/50 meth/water/91octane but that poor 35R was already beyond its limit anyways and i wasn't up to experiment on a customer car.

i sometimes feel like just upping the jet in my car and seeing what that T70 will do before it grenades on straight water. that POS is ancient now anyways compared to current turbos.

[RICE RACING]

Originally Posted by Rotary Evolution

braver than i, i've only ran up to 25psi on 50/50 meth/water/91octane but that poor 35R was already beyond its limit anyways and i wasn't up to experiment on a customer car.

i sometimes feel like just upping the jet in my car and seeing what that T70 will do before it grenades on straight water. that POS is ancient now anyways compared to current turbos.

If you need some help just ask, no point re inventing the wheel or getting your donk BDC'd

[PSI]

Thanks. It's not a mullet it's a mudflap.

[Rotary Evolution]

well, really the only setups i've thrown together that have turbos efficient beyond 22-25psi are running ethanol in the tank. i simply haven't spent much time trying to push pump gas when there's better alternatives.