How to ground you N/A FC ver. 1

Rotary#10 · 04-24-2009, 07:25 PM

Hey folks I am thinking of making a sticky Faq here for everyone who has added grounds and or cleaned them.. let me know what you know about grounds... I will be collecting info from other sites and posting the write-ups, and links to the orginal link.
So post away what you know about ground and the benefits you have..

My5ABaby · 04-25-2009, 04:36 PM

I'm a believer of just cleaning the factory grounds. The ones on my car have worked for the past 23 years so I kind of doubt I would need to add more. The only time I suggest adding a ground is for the 3800 rpm hesitation. However, that only applies to '86 and, I think, up to '87.5 cars.

SecondGenPat · 04-25-2009, 05:08 PM

I ran 2 wires from B- to the tab on the firewall that runs to the top of the engine for the pcm ground. I still have the slight 3800 hesitation that I've always had.

Cp1 · 04-25-2009, 06:10 PM

there is a tech article i wrote in general info that has all to do with grounds. i quick smear of di-electric grease on ground points will ensure they dont corrode

My5ABaby · 04-25-2009, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SecondGenPat

I ran 2 wires from B- to the tab on the firewall that runs to the top of the engine for the pcm ground. I still have the slight 3800 hesitation that I've always had.

The 3800 hesitation is due to a specific ground, namely the one coming off the pressure sensor (in the engine bay). You can either reground right next to the ECU, or do what I did and splice in a new ground to that wire in the engine bay.

Fidelity101 · 04-30-2009, 12:19 PM

I just wire wheeled all the factory grounds and ran a semi thick gauge wire between all of them that loops from engine group to ECU ground. no hesitation here!

I also did re ground the map sensor too.

Rx-7fetish · 04-30-2009, 03:55 PM

Which wire on the pressure sensor is the ground? Is it the black one with the white stripe? Im assuming it is being as black is usually ground but i dont want to go ground the wrong wire lol.

EDIT: Found a diagram, no more hesitaion YAY!!

Max777 · 04-30-2009, 06:36 PM

I would like to chime in: I cleaned my grounds, however the wire inside the insulation and the insualtion itself were in such terrible shape, I had to unwrap the engine wiring harness, cut out a large section of the ground wire (including both on-engine ground terminals) and solder in new wire and B-Crimp (OEM style crimping method) ground terminals. This is an exteme case however.

Rx-7fetish · 04-30-2009, 06:41 PM

Im kind of scared about what my harness really looks like, last time i had to peel back the tape on the main harness from the computer it was full of old coolant (shudder......)

need RX7 · 04-30-2009, 07:19 PM

Kind of a stupid question (I'm an electrical noob lol), but for the pressure sensor reground, do you basically just cut the wire, and solder the ends back together with a 3rd wire added to the joint, and ground that 3rd wire?

Like this?

My5ABaby · 05-01-2009, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by need RX7

Kind of a stupid question (I'm an electrical noob lol), but for the pressure sensor reground, do you basically just cut the wire, and solder the ends back together with a 3rd wire added to the joint, and ground that 3rd wire?

Like this?

Yeah. I would also suggest cleaning the factory ground point as well.

takahaski.r · 05-04-2009, 06:26 PM

i did the hks circle earth system, gold plate to negative battery with 6 wires coming off to engine, one to each of the housings and one to each of the irons
and one to the main harness ground. i have no hesitation at any point, and no more bogging from starts. this is in my 90 GTUs

***TitaniumTT*** · 05-06-2009, 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fidelity101

I just wire wheeled all the factory grounds and ran a semi thick gauge wire between all of them that loops from engine group to ECU ground. no hesitation here!

I also did re ground the map sensor too.

Nicely done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by takahaski.r

i did the hks circle earth system, gold plate to negative battery with 6 wires coming off to engine, one to each of the housings and one to each of the irons
and one to the main harness ground. i have no hesitation at any point, and no more bogging from starts. this is in my 90 GTUs

I think that HKS thing is a waste of hard earned money. You could've done the entire thing yourself for much cheaper. Also, grounding the int and front iron are kind of a waste. The rear holds the coolant sensor for the gauge, so that is kinda nice to re-ground.

The housings are key for good spark so I would definately ground those, as well the ECU points, housings, waterpump housing, TPS, pressure sensor, and maybe the MAF. Everything should be common and leading to a GOOD chassis ground or to the battery. When I did mine I started with an 8 gauge grounded by the ECU that spiderwebbed out with CRIMPS (NOT solder) to hit all the key points.

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SecondGenPat Start a Revolution Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Park Ridge, NJ iTrader: (0) Posts: 29 Rep Power: 0	I ran 2 wires from B- to the tab on the firewall that runs to the top of the engine for the pcm ground. I still have the slight 3800 hesitation that I've always had. __________________ That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government -The United Stated Declaration of Independence

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Fidelity101 Reliable Source Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan/Illinois iTrader: (1) Posts: 336 Rep Power: 17	I just wire wheeled all the factory grounds and ran a semi thick gauge wire between all of them that loops from engine group to ECU ground. no hesitation here! I also did re ground the map sensor too. __________________ My Rx-7 Vids

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Rx-7fetish Blue Blur Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Windsor iTrader: (0) Posts: 211 Rep Power: 0	Which wire on the pressure sensor is the ground? Is it the black one with the white stripe? Im assuming it is being as black is usually ground but i dont want to go ground the wrong wire lol. EDIT: Found a diagram, no more hesitaion YAY!! Last edited by Rx-7fetish; 04-30-2009 at 05:52 PM..

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Max777 Pirate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central IL iTrader: (5) Posts: 1,323 Rep Power: 18	I would like to chime in: I cleaned my grounds, however the wire inside the insulation and the insualtion itself were in such terrible shape, I had to unwrap the engine wiring harness, cut out a large section of the ground wire (including both on-engine ground terminals) and solder in new wire and B-Crimp (OEM style crimping method) ground terminals. This is an exteme case however. __________________ Rotaries:They are NOT that complicated!

04-24-2009, 07:25 PM	#1
Rotary#10 Rotorhead Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: "the town " Oakland iTrader: (1) Posts: 219 Rep Power: 17	How to ground you N/A FC ver. 1 Hey folks I am thinking of making a sticky Faq here for everyone who has added grounds and or cleaned them.. let me know what you know about grounds... I will be collecting info from other sites and posting the write-ups, and links to the orginal link. So post away what you know about ground and the benefits you have.. __________________ Currently running: 90 GTUs converted to S5 TurboII. Track car. 90 N/A GTUs.. Running project car 89 N/A GTUs in Black #2 10/6/18 Blown coolant seal undergoing rebuild and restomod.

04-30-2009, 06:41 PM	#9
Rx-7fetish Blue Blur Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Windsor iTrader: (0) Posts: 211 Rep Power: 0	Im kind of scared about what my harness really looks like, last time i had to peel back the tape on the main harness from the computer it was full of old coolant (shudder......)

05-04-2009, 06:26 PM	#12
takahaski.r rotard Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: columbia sc iTrader: (0) Posts: 34 Rep Power: 0	i did the hks circle earth system, gold plate to negative battery with 6 wires coming off to engine, one to each of the housings and one to each of the irons and one to the main harness ground. i have no hesitation at any point, and no more bogging from starts. this is in my 90 GTUs __________________ pissed off?being that close to a rotary, id say youd be pist-on