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Mazdabater 09-24-2011 11:24 AM

Cmon rice don't tease me, post up some real data on what your cars doing now

RICE RACING 09-24-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazdabater (Post 166089)
Cmon rice don't tease me, post up some real data on what your cars doing now

Soon brother soon :party:

I have given a free service to many people around the world who all of a sudden became "experts" :smilielol5: LOL. No more, only the old information will be released once the new levels are proven. I don't care if people copy it then cause its old news to me :001_302:

The new stages I am finalizing now are just totally unheard of level of performance and durability for a true road going 13B ROTARY, just like the last proven development Ferrari F40 beating stages openly shared it makes peoples "race cars" look like total plastic wrapped nuggets! :smilielol5: hahahaha.......

Stay tuned for the old outdated news, I'll continue to lead while others follow for the next 20 years!!!!
;)

RICE RACING 09-24-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mazdabater (Post 148005)
No you won't you'll post it Tuesday lol. Mondays public holiday. Are the trust ones worth running in a daily? They are pretty dear aren't they? I've always run b9egv as that's what dysons told me back in the day but they can go suck a cock

LOL Dyson here run buses LOL, useless cunts. :rofl:

RICE RACING 12-04-2011 01:24 AM

Some more pics of my ride ;)

RICEFJ has joined the stable officially :)

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RICE RACING 12-05-2011 11:35 PM

Get On It...... Fact V's Fiction LOL
 
Well well, new settings are showing potential :) :auto:

Low Boost setting 20psi or ~1.4bar (3rd gear RR std runs)
90kmh -140kmh = 2.32 seconds ! and 2.33 seconds ! (2 x separate tests)

EGT peak = 880 deg c to 870 deg C

Other info to down load off the ECU but will post it up later........

Car is stupid fast & effortless with new WI strategy, and will only go faster on higher boost settings.
More info (snap shot) added:
RPM 7700rpm
EGT 878 deg C
AIT 36 deg C to 40 deg C
Ambient temp 18~20 deg C
Boost 142kpa 1.45kg or 20.6psi
TIP 18.6psi
TOP 3.3psi
FP 65.8psi
Turbine rpm 107,166rpm
AFR undisclosed
WI undisclosed
Ign timing and split undisclosed
Inj duty 54%


On board power meter showed 379rwkw, car is very quick for a true road car, too fast really to be used properly without tripling any posted speed limits LOL. Anyway its got a great base to finish off the very high power/high boost work I was doing through this and last year, with much more favorable long term operating parameters on the engine and turbocharger. Next stages are back up to 1.80kg boost, 2.00kg, and 2.20kg and 2.45kg, keeping in mind the above is only on ~1.45kg to 1.5kg *waste gate spring minimum setting* :)

Non of this is remotely possible without the power of water injection :) all mind you on a near 3 year old over 20,000km daily driven engine that has NEVER been touched! unlike some who have gone through 100k worth of engines and tunes lol. :9898:

RICE RACING 12-10-2011 09:14 PM

:party:

Well got RICESP running 1.85kg/cm boost on the new upgraded set up, this is about 26.3psi in retarded speak.

The power is just fucking unbelievable !!!!

I have very good street tires Kumho KU36's and these in 3rd gear just send the vehicle sideways :001_302: the power when it hits is unreal! the car squats down, picks up the left hand front and its like a bucking bronco, she really screams! In 4th gear it accelerates best, the mid range power is as good as what I had as peak rpm power before, passing cars on highway is retarded, leave it in 4th and you go past at warp speed only using 4000~5500rpm...... :D

To put it in perspective, allot of the Domar Jap spec FD3S specialist videos you see people gagging over the cars never run more than 1.1kg/cm boost, and using homo injectors and small turbo's allot of the cars wont even char tires in 2nd let alone 3rd gear with a top end diff ratio that will do 210mph!!!!

I'd love to put this car on a boat and show the drift king how a real FD3S goes, he would shit his panties :lol:

MaczPayne 12-12-2011 03:54 PM

Need vids! :)

knonfs 12-12-2011 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MaczPayne (Post 175147)
Need vids! :)

INDEED!

Peter - Are you still running 100% water? My car is finally getting tuned sometime this month, and Dave at KDR recommended a 50/50 mix (I have your kit) :icon_tup:

RICE RACING 12-12-2011 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by knonfs (Post 175161)
INDEED!

Peter - Are you still running 100% water? My car is finally getting tuned sometime this month, and Dave at KDR recommended a 50/50 mix (I have your kit) :icon_tup:

Hey there,

No I use and recommend only WM50 (by weight!), I have been using this for a LONG time now and documented all of the testing here > http://www.aquamist.co.uk/vbulletin/...?t=1590&page=8
^(there is a ton of info, and the performance is ALWAYS increasing *to give you an idea post #74 or so lists power as 278rwkw and now I have much more*, but you will get the idea, its worth the read)
I tried all kinds of permutations even different fluids, trying to replicate what I have in old testing papers on the subject, in the end I got a pretty good correlation and I personally found that 50/50 water to methanol *by weight* cools the best, and makes the most power by a long long way.

I have upgraded my WI systems just recently to fully exploit this system change, you can still run it on pure water if you wish, you just wont make the same power or have the same detonation resistance as the latest specification systems (all that is different is the nozzle calibration, all the system parts are the same).

Peter

knonfs 12-12-2011 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 175173)
Hey there,

No I use and recommend only WM50 (by weight!), I have been using this for a LONG time now and documented all of the testing here > http://www.aquamist.co.uk/vbulletin/...?t=1590&page=8
^(there is a ton of info, and the performance is ALWAYS increasing *to give you an idea post #74 or so lists power as 278rwkw and now I have 379rwkw!!!*, but you will get the idea, its worth the read)
I tried all kinds of permutations even different fluids, trying to replicate what I have in old testing papers on the subject, in the end I got a pretty good correlation and I personally found that 50/50 water to methanol *by weight* cools the best, and makes the most power by a long long way.

I have upgraded my WI systems just recently to fully exploit this system change, you can still run it on pure water if you wish, you just wont make the same power or have the same detonation resistance as the latest specification systems (all that is different is the nozzle calibration, all the system parts are the same).

Peter

Love to hear that, seems like Dave is on the right track! The nozzle calibration that you speak of, is that by adjusting the plastic turn knob on the side of the nozzle?

RICE RACING 12-12-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by knonfs (Post 175178)
Love to hear that, seems like Dave is on the right track! The nozzle calibration that you speak of, is that by adjusting the plastic turn knob on the side of the nozzle?

Yes, best to E-Mail me as I don't really freely share specs (only with customers like you) ;) peter@riceracing.com.au

The RRWEP110 set up you have can get you pretty high up, for more you would have to send the atomizer back to me and I can modify it to the new specifications :) *its only if you want to run ~36psi boost* < and the power that goes with it :)

RICE RACING 12-13-2011 11:48 PM

:auto:

O.K. Remember pump petrol here !

90kmh-140kmh = 2.26 seconds!
100kmh-150kmh = 2.39 seoconds!
100kmh-200kmh = 6.25 seconds!


Still on old tires, and showing about 24psi boost on the VBOX, and ~330rwkw VBOX POWER!!!

Tested at 1320kg run weight and 25 deg C ambient day, still doing boost learning procedure so there is a bit more in at this level and fuel mixture set rich to be on safe side.

:conehead:

Fact V's Fiction :9898:

Will put up some graphs when I get them off the lap dancer top :coolgleamA:

Here is the graph of the 2.26 second 90-140 test :) this car has a *massive* power band, not normally seen on genuine 13B road cars of this level of performance and speed!@ the word "response" does not do it justice! It builds one bar of boost at around 3400rpm in a transient test, and near its maximum boost setting well before 4600rpm and it does it even in the low gears which only take a second or two for 8000rpm, its fantastic..... best road car set up ever !@
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1FaastFd3s 12-18-2011 01:55 AM

Great read and what a last update! Do you have any videos of the current setup? Cant wait to see what 30+psi on this setup will do. You are currently running 50/50 water/meth, no longer just water correct?
David

Quote:

Originally Posted by RICE RACING (Post 175376)
:auto:

O.K. Remember pump petrol here !

90kmh-140kmh = 2.26 seconds!
100kmh-150kmh = 2.39 seoconds!
100kmh-200kmh = 6.25 seconds!


Still on old tires, and showing about 24psi boost on the VBOX, and ~330rwkw VBOX POWER!!!

Tested at 1320kg run weight and 25 deg C ambient day, still doing boost learning procedure so there is a bit more in at this level and fuel mixture set rich to be on safe side.

:conehead:

Fact V's Fiction :9898:

Will put up some graphs when I get them off the lap dancer top :coolgleamA:

Here is the graph of the 2.26 second 90-140 test :) this car has a *massive* power band, not normally seen on genuine 13B road cars of this level of performance and speed!@ the word "response" does not do it justice! It builds one bar of boost at around 3400rpm in a transient test, and near its maximum boost setting well before 4600rpm and it does it even in the low gears which only take a second or two for 8000rpm, its fantastic..... best road car set up ever !@
http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/1341/226secvbox.jpg


RICE RACING 12-18-2011 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 1FaastFd3s (Post 175802)
Great read and what a last update! Do you have any videos of the current setup? Cant wait to see what 30+psi on this setup will do. You are currently running 50/50 water/meth, no longer just water correct?
David

Hey David,

On holidays now, so start of next year will get back into testing and updates :coolgleamA:

I'll fit up my new tires and the camera and take some video of how she goes, currently its on 26.3psi or 1.8bar gauge boost pressure.

I have run WM50 for the last 2 years, logical progression from water really. I did allot of my own tests on a host of fluid mixtures, verifying old test reports and found in my own case that WM50 (50:50 by mass, not volume) works the best for me. I don't disclose the WI rate exactly (something I keep for my customers) but its "high", and it needs to be to run this level of boost pressure and certified performance on the VBOX :)

Last year I did tests on 30+psi but was not overly happy with some parameters for long term use, last month I finally got around to re-engineering some system set up parts and now its much better as a long term proposition. All on the same 13B-REW I have been running for 3 years and its not ever been touched! (testament to reliability of water injection). This set up will easily do 2.5bar gauge boost pressure or ~36psi on normal BP Ultimate Petrol. What cant be conveyed over the internet is the speed of the way it is now on ~26psi! :auto: it flat out hauls! :auto:

RICE RACING 12-20-2011 12:40 AM

"Got Grip C*nts" :auto: Ho Ho Ho Merry Christmas! :rofl:

275/40/R17 Toyo R888 GG compound

Fits like a finger in a bum.... :)

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