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FCpilot
05-18-2009, 02:32 PM
I've got my engine out for a rebuild, and am wondering what people have done to tidy the compartment up and free up some space. Everything that came with the car in in there, with the exception of the air pump.

Thanks for your input.

Max777
05-18-2009, 02:51 PM
relocate battery to the storage bins
replace airbox with K&N Cone filter
replace clutch fan with electric unit
remove A/C
Remove P/S (not recommended if you plan to drift)
remove ACV
Remove OMP (only on S4, if it's broken, S5 cars need a ECU chip to remove it)
Remove charcoal Canister
purchase a radiator cooling panel (corksport)
replace the exhaust manifold with a Racing Beat header (performance gain and looks a LOT better)

These things are all unnecesary, but that's a good list. There are complications that arise from some of these "mods" that you need to consider before actually doing them.

Fidelity101
05-18-2009, 03:51 PM
relocate battery to the storage bins
replace airbox with K&N Cone filter
replace clutch fan with electric unit
remove A/C
Remove P/S (not recommended if you plan to drift)
remove ACV
Remove OMP (only on S4, if it's broken, S5 cars need a ECU chip to remove it)
Remove charcoal Canister
purchase a radiator cooling panel (corksport)
replace the exhaust manifold with a Racing Beat header (performance gain and looks a LOT better)

These things are all unnecesary, but that's a good list. There are complications that arise from some of these "mods" that you need to consider before actually doing them.

woot! I've done all that except the cooling panel and you forgot to add remove the air pump.

and if you wanna get even more nuts go with an electric water pump :D

Max777
05-18-2009, 03:57 PM
Everything that came with the car in in there, with the exception of the air pump.

Thanks for your input.

:D

Fidelity101
05-18-2009, 04:16 PM
:D

do'h!

need RX7
05-18-2009, 04:42 PM
Convert to mid-engine. :)

But yeah, basically everything that's been said already. Also having a squeaky-clean engine bay really improves the look.

Fidelity101
05-18-2009, 05:53 PM
Convert to mid-engine. :)

But yeah, basically everything that's been said already. Also having a squeaky-clean engine bay really improves the look.

now that would be sweet :D and akward.

my engine bay is pretty tidy minus all the wires going everywhere (I cant wait till megasquirt!)

FCpilot
05-18-2009, 07:30 PM
Thanks for the list. Has there been any effort to make the wire harness into something less awful? So far I've decided to simply re-wrap the thing.

Max777
05-20-2009, 10:56 PM
/\ dont do it!'

Maybe I just suck at wrapping harnesses, but it gave me hell to do mine! A lot of the plugs either had too much wire, or didnt reach quite right, so I had to redo it twice!

I would reccomend simply getting some "non-chlorinated" brake cleaner (wont harm the plastic connectors) getting the harness dissconected, and spraying it down/wiping it off.

This will make it look a million times better and save a million headaches...

FCpilot
05-21-2009, 10:36 AM
/\ dont do it!'

Maybe I just suck at wrapping harnesses, but it gave me hell to do mine! A lot of the plugs either had too much wire, or didnt reach quite right, so I had to redo it twice!

I would reccomend simply getting some "non-chlorinated" brake cleaner (wont harm the plastic connectors) getting the harness dissconected, and spraying it down/wiping it off.

This will make it look a million times better and save a million headaches...

That's useful information. Thanks for the heads up.

Fidelity101
05-21-2009, 05:40 PM
you can just go to a standalone ECU w/ its own neater harness.

vex
05-21-2009, 06:38 PM
Here's some other things you can do if you're adventurous:

Relocating the coils to inside the cabin and using bulk head connectors to get the spark to the spark plugs.
Remote mounting the AC/PS Pumps (hehehehe, I don't think anyone has figured out how to do that quite yet... but I have something in store)
Re-do the hard brake lines to run inconspicuously instead of all over the place
Custom intake manifold for cleaner install/look
Hide heater core lines to be out of sight/out of view from the upper portion of the engine.
Bulk head/cannon plug the engine harness and re-wire it to mount directly over the transmission.
Stainless steel parallel fuel lines
AN fittings just about everything you can
Relocate clutch lines to be inside the firewall
Construct heat shields and proper ducting to the air filter
Replace stock recirculating tank
All aluminum radiator

That's about all I can think of right now.

Phoenix7
05-21-2009, 07:02 PM
no airpump? Do you have the yohoo belt or pullies to make sure the water pump is getting proper belt contact at high RPMS? why are you rebuilding btw?

ditch the PS, the way the road feels without PS is worth it. parking isn't fun with wider wheels but you get over it. Max did a good job with the list, you can't really take anything else out besides the AC lines and coils.

SOmeone said electric water pump, it cleans up a lot of space for sure:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/madrx7racer/7Stock%2011%20-%202008/7stock11-2008084-1.jpg?t=1242950502
just impretend all the cool stuff isn't there....:lol:

THere is so much going on in that picture it hurts....:drool:

vex
05-21-2009, 07:07 PM
You can still clean up a lot of things from that bay...

As for the electric water pump... how do you even mate that to the engine without the waterpump housing?

Phoenix7
05-21-2009, 07:12 PM
You can still clean up a lot of things from that bay...

As for the electric water pump... how do you even mate that to the engine without the waterpump housing?
no way...that bay is stripped of everything except what you need for the car to run.

I wish I had more pics....maybe someone else in the 7stock thread?

vex
05-21-2009, 09:09 PM
Coils, fuses, relays can all be mounted internal the cabin.

WE3RX7
05-21-2009, 10:18 PM
The waterpump is attached using an adapter....

I got back and forth on the electric setup all the time... I may end up doing it just to see... the adapter is actually one of the only rotary parts summit racing sells :)

vex
05-21-2009, 10:44 PM
You're going to have to link it... I'm just not seeing it.

WE3RX7
05-22-2009, 08:15 AM
Here's the link:

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?autofilter=1&part=MEZ%2DWP90&N=700+115&autoview=sku

And you can slightly see it in that photo phoenix7 put up.... its to the left of the CAS

vex
05-22-2009, 10:07 AM
That's pretty cool!... I know what to add to my list of things....

WE3RX7
05-22-2009, 11:27 AM
Lol, and another seed is planted :)


Its a cool setup in general, no pun intended. Ultimately I'm sure I'll end up doing it just to make things that much cleaner in the engine bay...

FCpilot
05-22-2009, 04:47 PM
no airpump? Do you have the yohoo belt or pullies to make sure the water pump is getting proper belt contact at high RPMS? why are you rebuilding btw?

ditch the PS, the way the road feels without PS is worth it. parking isn't fun with wider wheels but you get over it. Max did a good job with the list, you can't really take anything else out besides the AC lines and coils.

SOmeone said electric water pump, it cleans up a lot of space for sure:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v164/madrx7racer/7Stock%2011%20-%202008/7stock11-2008084-1.jpg?t=1242950502
just impretend all the cool stuff isn't there....:lol:

THere is so much going on in that picture it hurts....:drool:

I'm rebuilding an engine with overheating problems (bad seals). I didn't put the two belt pulley on, through my car is a daily driver that doesn't see a lot of high revving. I do intend on replacing it with a two belt pulley at this time.

Nice clean looking bay.

Phoenix7
05-22-2009, 05:07 PM
well, I went with the yoohoo belt on mine instead of pullies....much cheaper. THey claim it's better than pullies but then again, they are looking to sell a product. 14 bux vs. 100 is good though.