NoPis1O's Build Thread

[Nopis1O]

Heres a little taste. Still trying to work out a couple kinks but its coming along.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/n200300147_31720529_2220109.jpg

Hey RCC
I have been on this Fourm for a while some of you might know my Lowered Fc vert. fairly stock car i like to auto cross and have funn with. Well last week i picked up a 1989 fc gxl with a Individual carbed 13b with a couple mods.
Story behind the car: it was built by a guy in st louis,MO and i guess he like to drag race it. go figure. but then he sold it and it has since passed threw a couple hands to me. The people who bought it from him burnt the clutch and never fixed it. when i got the car oil and tranny fluid looked like it came straight out of the bottle. so im guessing they burnt the clutch way before they could poorly matain it. so kindof a blessing.

Here is what the car looks like now and where my Journey begins. I have already pulled the engine and tranny. im going to replace the clutch( which i have already purchased) resurface the flywheel (which is a 8 pound unknown aftermarket one) then clean and paint the engine bay before it goes back in. I have pictures of the pull but dont have them on my computer yet.

PS if anyone recognizes the car and knows who built it i would love to talk with him. (or if any board members who live in st louis want to do some research that would be awesome.)

Here is how she Sat when i got her.

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[Max777]

1. Wrong section.
2. No new pics.

FAIL! :D

j/k.

[Nopis1O]

Since the first post i have done quite a bit. so heres an update

right when i got it home
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09065.jpg

Engine bay
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09066.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09067.jpg

MSD were held on by one skrew and a few zip ties. GHETTO
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09068.jpg

Battery terminals were probably the worst i have ever seen
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09069.jpg

just liked that picture
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09077.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09076.jpg

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http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09080.jpg

[need RX7]

Looks pretty solid. Are you going to keep the carb setup or go back to EFI?

[Nopis1O]

just more pictures

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09090.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09085.jpg

No breaks in the whole exhaust
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09100.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09104.jpg

[Nopis1O]

Think im going to keep the carb set up. kinda like it

[Nopis1O]

Pulled the engine today

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09115.jpg

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and its out
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09124.jpg

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09107.jpg

couple parts i pulled that will be cleaned redone and put back on
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09106.jpg

heres a picture of the tiny three inch from the header exhaust i got
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09109.jpg

these were just sitting in the exhaust. should i put them back in the same way or is there some right way to put them in.
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09117.jpg
shine it up
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09128.jpg
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[Nopis1O]

there has been porting done on the engine. kinda hard to take pictures but here are some
http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/mixfrombeginningof09130.jpg
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[Flooder]

You have an S4 shifter and shift knob in there. Just thought you'd like to know :lol:.

[need RX7]

You have a much better looking S4 shifter and shift knob in there. Just thought you'd like to know :lol:.
Fixed ;) I hate the S5 shifter/knob.

[Max777]

Ok, two things again:

1: fail to give proper credit for working my ass off pulling the engine
2: didn't post pics of the old clutch.

verdict: still fail. :D

[RETed]

That thing is...hideous.
It looks like someone got pissed off at the stock fuel injection and decided to convert it to a downdraft.

Carb needs to be rebuilt?
It's leaking FUEL all over the place...
The car doesn't reek of gasoline???

Good luck tuning the carb and changing out points!
That MSD is gonna eat distro points for breakfast...

You autocross this thing?
The stock AAS is still intact.


-Ted

[Max777]

yeah, the "got pissed at the FI setup" was my guess too! Especially from how ghetto-fabbed some of the work is!

I think that there must have been two people who built this thing:

The first, who did shit proper, and the second who half assed OVER a lot of the good work already done.

Example: The distributor was HARD WIRED into the body electrical harness, there was no connector at all.

As far as the points through: does it have em? I didn't see any "points" only a magnetic pick up when I took it apart, so I dunno what points you're talking about Ted....

[Whizbang]

that intake filter thing is a bit hokey though

[RETed]

It has to be points?
I see 6 boots on top of the distributor cap.
4 are for spark plugs to the engine, and 2 are for the two coils - leading and trailing.
This is the same set-up for carb'd / distro'd 12A engines on 1st gens.


-Ted

[Flooder]

Fixed ;) I hate the S5 shifter/knob.

Then you're retarded. The S5 shifter has a different thread pitch than the S4's and supports more after market shift knobs.

[need RX7]

Then you're retarded. The S5 shifter has a different thread pitch than the S4's and supports more after market shift knobs.

I prefer the S4 shift knob over anything else. The S5 one feels and looks odd to me, and I'm just not a fan of most aftermarket knobs.

[Nopis1O]

It has to be points?
I see 6 boots on top of the distributor cap.
4 are for spark plugs to the engine, and 2 are for the two coils - leading and trailing.
This is the same set-up for carb'd / distro'd 12A engines on 1st gens.


-Ted
There are points. your right they do look a little warn.
And yes i am going to autocross this car.

We just pulled the rest of the harness and other crap out and spit shined the engine bay. getting ready to sand and paint in the next couple of days.

[Max777]

Bobby, I told ya those are not points, the distributor has magnetic pickup coils like the second generation CAS sensor. Here are the pics I took, and there are no points in there unless I'm missing something???

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s123/Alpine61/bobby%20S5%20FC/DSCN4201.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s123/Alpine61/bobby%20S5%20FC/DSCN4200.jpg

[Max777]

The rest of the pics:

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s123/Alpine61/bobby%20S5%20FC/DSCN4206.jpg

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s123/Alpine61/bobby%20S5%20FC/DSCN4205.jpg

Max777 in the engine bay! :D

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s123/Alpine61/bobby%20S5%20FC/DSCN4204.jpg

[vex]

They're points.

[Max777]

Ok, can you please point them out to me? (no pun intended) I thought that this is a magnetic pick up coil distributor?

... and WTF is nambla??

EDIT: Dude, that's just sick, what the hell?

[vex]

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s123/Alpine61/bobby%20S5%20FC/DSCN4200.jpg The pieces up top are a give away as to it being points. The metal pieces on the upper side of the "tree" make contact with the specific points which then transfers the energy from the coil to the spark plug which is struck.

[Max777]

Umm, ok, I get what you mean, but I have never heard of those being called "points" isnt that just the distributor rotor?

I thought you meant BEAKER points, like these, which the dizzy obviously doesn't have, proving what I'm trying to say.

http://i151.photobucket.com/albums/s123/Alpine61/distributor2.jpg

No matter what was actually being called "points" or whatever, usually when someone mentions "points" on a distributor they are talking about breaker points. Breaker points "Break" the ignition circuit every time the distirutor cam pushes them apart. They are a very outdated design that usually cant handle high rpm application well, so with time, the breaker points were replaced with a magetic pickup coil. It functions simillarly, but does not have any parts to wear since the trigger wheel does not touch the pickup itself.


I dont recall what the part you are talking about is called, but they are just contact "points" on the distributor rotor that yes, do wear with time, but that is just the way a distributor is designed.

On the other hand, breaker points are very well known to wear, usually lasting no more than 30,000 miles on an average passenger car. however, this distributor does not have them.

Conclusion: We are arguing about two different things. When RTED mentioned "points" I thought he meant a breaker point type distributor, which this one isnt, and made that comment. You are saying he meant something else. I'm not trying to say you both were wrong, but my statement about this being a magnetic pickup coil type dizzy is still correct.


I'm don't know everything, but I'm shure as hell trying to learn, so please teach me anything you know about this matter, thank you.

[Nopis1O]

Does anyone know what you have to do to make 350z wheels fit on a fc?

[Max777]

I do!

Step 1: Throw 350z wheels in garbage

Step 2: Buy some cast aluminum replica wheels in any desired size or offset.

Step 3: Look good and save a bunch of money on your car insurance with geico!


...but really, you need to machine out the center bore, and use spacers, and still have wheels that look terrible on the FC.

[Whizbang]

rx8 wheels look way too much like Z wheels and would actually fit pretty easily.

[Max777]

/\ It's just that there is someone that's selling 350z wheels locally for kinda cheap, but I still dont think that it's worth the money, especially with the machining, i'm not sure on how that would affect structural integrity?

[RETed]

Sorry, then it's my fault.
I always though "distributor" = "points".
I never knew there were distributors without points.
Apologies for the confusion...


-Ted

[Max777]

Yay, I taught the almighty RETed something new! :D

But seriously, the distributor system is way outdated anyway, and if you mostly work with modern Hi-Performance EFI systems, then it's not unusual for people to not be as knowledgeable about the older distributor system.

A good example is how I have very little experience with carburators, drum brakes, and steam engines. :D

[Nopis1O]

update. Got the front suspension on tonight and putting the rest on tomorrow morning. i will post pics when its done.

anyone know of a good site, person, place to buy 5mm spacers from?

[Nopis1O]

DGRR IS COMING TO SOOOOOOOOON. IDK if i can get this done. i dont want to hurry. i might do everything but paint and still go. ha.

[bigtony08]

hope you make it i wanna see how the car turns out. good luck

[Nopis1O]

thanks suspension is on. looks good. i will post pics when im not drunk and tired

[Max777]

Yeah, suspension was pretty fun to install.

It seems like the front shocks have had lowering springs installed on them or something, because when we put the rear coupe (softer) suspension on his vert, it sat WAY up back there. Good thing I got an extra set of vert springs laying around! :D

[Nopis1O]

Good thing I got an extra set of vert springs laying around! :D

where did you get that? oh thats right i gave it to you:001_005:

On my way to the shop to paint the bay. i will post pictures hopefully tonight or tomorrow

[Nopis1O]

I will post updates soon. my lap top isnt taking the pictures right.

MODS can you move this to the new build thread section

[Nopis1O]

K im ready to do alot of picture updates.
Here is the motor bay taped and half sanded getting ready for paint.

http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s309/SideWayzGTU/cannonmix238.jpg!

[Nopis1O]

Primed
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[Nopis1O]

painted
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[Nopis1O]

Fix it up
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[Nopis1O]

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[Nopis1O]

so far its has a weber carb. exedy clutch, racing beat mounts and gaskets,msd ignition, racing beat dual alternator pully, borla exhust. BREEAAATHHHHHHHHH d2 suspension,bbs wheels, recaro seats, optima battery, b&m short throw . the fram was so nothing got in there until i put my mazda oil filter on. i just had it at the shop. it will never see the seven runing.

Ha you guys wanted a build thread. you asked for it. this is just a sea of pictures
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[Max777]

I think the shifter is either a Miata or a C's Racing one, B&M never made an FC shifter, only one for an FD (but I might be wrong, I could not find a B&M one) also dont you mean 350Z wheels?

Nice job so far, man.

[Nopis1O]

yea i thought it might be a miata one too but just put it. and no? i mean bbs wheels. thats whats going on it.

[Max777]

no 350z anymore? I kinda like em now that I saw them in person.... a lot better than crappy online pics.

[Nopis1O]

no i still got um. just might be putting bbs wheels on it. not sure yet

[Nopis1O]

car runs!! doesnt drive yet. still got a couple loose ends to tie up

[Nopis1O]

bump for update on the OP!!! check it out