Tokico Blues + ???? = Score

My5ABaby · 03-01-2010, 04:16 PM

I currently have Tokico Blues on the car with stock springs. As I have a couple bucks now I'm looking to upgrade the springs. I've heard good things about Tanabe GF-210, Tein S-Tech, Eibach Pro Kit, and Racing Beat but I'm not sure which would suit the Blues well. Suggestions?

RoughRex · 03-01-2010, 05:08 PM

I think most of what you're going to find is too stiff for use as a daily driver. I have Blues and Eibach Pro-kit springs on my car. I picked the Pro-kit springs because they are progressive and I thought they would go a little easier on me for daily driving but even the Pro-kits feel a bit stiff. (I'm spoiled I think)

I've heard others say to steer away from Eibachs and go with Tein because the stiffer springs handle better but I don't just drive on the track and I don't want to hate driving my car because it makes me need a chiropractor. Anyhow... if you want to know what the Eibachs + Tokico blues feel like, just take mine for a spin next time we have a meet.

My5ABaby · 03-01-2010, 05:51 PM

It's not a daily but I think I've been a bit spoiled by my 6 and its comforts. I'd like something that will be pretty comfortable and make for an enjoyable leisure drive along with aggressive responsiveness if wanted. Perhaps something middle of the road.

Max777 · 03-01-2010, 11:06 PM

i think you are all spoiled, and dont have a clue what stiff FC suspnsion feels like. Go get some coilovers, then put the blues/whatever back on and the car will feel like a S600 benz.

Honestly, I havent tried any of the springs, but I cant imagine they would be anywhere near coilover stiffness level. Also, any new shock/spring combo will feel words better in comparison to 20y.o. suspension, so just stop being a puss and go for it!

Gabriel82 · 03-01-2010, 11:27 PM

I have Tanabe GF-210 springs, they feel good and give the car a good drop.

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-01-2010, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Max777

i think you are all spoiled, and dont have a clue what stiff FC suspnsion feels like. Go get some coilovers, then put the blues/whatever back on and the car will feel like a S600 benz.

Honestly, I havent tried any of the springs, but I cant imagine they would be anywhere near coilover stiffness level. Also, any new shock/spring combo will feel words better in comparison to 20y.o. suspension, so just stop being a puss and go for it!

Not necessarily. I had Blues/Eibachs on my car before my Stance C/O's and the Stances are definately a better ride. The blues aren't really valved properly and ride quality definately suffers

My5ABaby · 03-02-2010, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Max777

i think you are all spoiled, and dont have a clue what stiff FC suspnsion feels like. Go get some coilovers, then put the blues/whatever back on and the car will feel like a S600 benz.

Honestly, I havent tried any of the springs, but I cant imagine they would be anywhere near coilover stiffness level. Also, any new shock/spring combo will feel words better in comparison to 20y.o. suspension, so just stop being a puss and go for it!

Your response was extremely helpful and has influenced my decision greatly.

I haven't felt a "stiff FC suspension", nor do I want to. I enjoy having some comfort when driving my car as I don't track it and don't Auto-X. What the hell is the point of super stiff coilovers given that?

Ender · 03-02-2010, 09:00 AM

If you don't track it, AutoX, or want any kind of increase in handling performance then I don't see why you'd buy anything but OEM unless OEM was much more expensive. They came from the factory with pretty good cornering ability.

My5ABaby · 03-02-2010, 09:18 AM

OEM springs are expensive. I'm not against tracking or Auto-xing, it's just not somethng I currently do or would competitively any time in the forseeable future.

classicauto · 03-02-2010, 11:53 AM

Just go eibach. They're fairly inexpensive and give a little drop. If my money situation went better this year I'd have set for you, but I haven't pickedup my new jams yet

Gabriel82 · 03-02-2010, 03:57 PM

Just go Tokico Blues and Tanabe GF-210s. Blues are essentially almost an OEM replacement. The Tanabe springs will make the car slightly stiffer but the ride comfort is still the same. Essentially you would have parts that allow you to push the FC through corners a little more than stock but still being a comfortable car to drive to the market, work, or school

Gabriel82 · 03-02-2010, 04:00 PM

or you can run Eibachs or Teins it depends which brand saves you a couple of bucks here and there.

***TitaniumTT*** · 03-02-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Gabriel82

Just go Tokico Blues and Tanabe GF-210s. Blues are essentially almost an OEM replacement. The Tanabe springs will make the car slightly stiffer but the ride comfort is still the same.

NOT EVEN CLOSE!!! Have you ever driven a stock FC before? Or one with that setup? You would need to try REALLY hard to be more wrong.... sorry dude.

My5ABaby · 03-02-2010, 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

NOT EVEN CLOSE!!! Have you ever driven a stock FC before? Or one with that setup? You would need to try REALLY hard to be more wrong.... sorry dude.

Since I've never been in a car with Blues/210s, the correct statement would be:___________________________. ??

Max777 · 03-02-2010, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by My5ABaby

I enjoy having some comfort when driving my car as I don't track it and don't Auto-X. What the hell is the point of super stiff coilovers given that?

For that cool "hellaflush" look, babe!

Nah, j/k, but seriously, you bought a rotary sports car for comfort? WTF?

Dont you know the true nature of a real 7 is to be loud as f**k and uncomfortable, bone jarring, wicked awesome, kick everyones ass at the track/ auto-x, and handle like it's on rails?

Also, I can understand that you might not have the time/ability to track your car, but even then....

My car rides already rides like shit, the suspension is real soft, but all the bumps and stuff feel like in a car with coils. Maybe your ride is a lot better with new shocks, but I would trade a soft and shitty ride for a firm and a little less shitty ride any day.

Then, there is also the issue of price. I would pay roughly $500 for new shocks. A set of stance GR+ can be had for $1,000 (if you know people) and then you can get softer springs for that. Adding to that the ride height, corner weight, and stiffness adjustability, and I just can NOT see what the big deal is.

I a lot of people seem to be all like "OMFG coilovers, they are too stiff, they suck, I like to have a comfortable car.... blah blah blah, etc. Get over your self. it's not "THAT" fucking bad.

On top of that, not all "coilovers" are these "Super stiff monsters" some people claim them to be. Some are, but there are also versions geared for more comfortable ride, and adjustability over cornering. TEIN has good models for street driving. Stance offer softer springs for their products, and ground control sleeves can be paired with an adjustable shock like a KYB agx, which can be stiffened up, and then softened for the ride home.

I've driven cars with coilovers, ridden in a lot of them, and know enough to give a good suggestion. Do you have any first hand experience with them?

03-01-2010, 04:16 PM	#1
My5ABaby Sigh..... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN iTrader: (6) Posts: 2,377 Rep Power: 19	Tokico Blues + ???? = Score I currently have Tokico Blues on the car with stock springs. As I have a couple bucks now I'm looking to upgrade the springs. I've heard good things about Tanabe GF-210, Tein S-Tech, Eibach Pro Kit, and Racing Beat but I'm not sure which would suit the Blues well. Suggestions? __________________ 1986 Sport: 132k miles, 5A (Sapphire Blue Metallic), Tokico Blues, Racing Beat Springs, Custom LED tailights (only S4 LED tails in the world), SSR Mark II, Racing Beat exhaust, S5 black interior, Rotary Resurrection rebuild at 120k miles Community Service Manual RotorWiki "Imagination costs nothing; we could build square locomotives or fly to Mars" - Felix Wankel Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

03-01-2010, 05:08 PM	#2
RoughRex Out of Nickels and Dimes Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Nashville, TN iTrader: (0) Posts: 192 Rep Power: 17	I think most of what you're going to find is too stiff for use as a daily driver. I have Blues and Eibach Pro-kit springs on my car. I picked the Pro-kit springs because they are progressive and I thought they would go a little easier on me for daily driving but even the Pro-kits feel a bit stiff. (I'm spoiled I think) I've heard others say to steer away from Eibachs and go with Tein because the stiffer springs handle better but I don't just drive on the track and I don't want to hate driving my car because it makes me need a chiropractor. Anyhow... if you want to know what the Eibachs + Tokico blues feel like, just take mine for a spin next time we have a meet. __________________ 1988 GXL

03-01-2010, 05:51 PM	#3
My5ABaby Sigh..... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN iTrader: (6) Posts: 2,377 Rep Power: 19	It's not a daily but I think I've been a bit spoiled by my 6 and its comforts. I'd like something that will be pretty comfortable and make for an enjoyable leisure drive along with aggressive responsiveness if wanted. Perhaps something middle of the road. __________________ 1986 Sport: 132k miles, 5A (Sapphire Blue Metallic), Tokico Blues, Racing Beat Springs, Custom LED tailights (only S4 LED tails in the world), SSR Mark II, Racing Beat exhaust, S5 black interior, Rotary Resurrection rebuild at 120k miles Community Service Manual RotorWiki "Imagination costs nothing; we could build square locomotives or fly to Mars" - Felix Wankel Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

03-01-2010, 11:06 PM	#4
Max777 Pirate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central IL iTrader: (5) Posts: 1,323 Rep Power: 18	i think you are all spoiled, and dont have a clue what stiff FC suspnsion feels like. Go get some coilovers, then put the blues/whatever back on and the car will feel like a S600 benz. Honestly, I havent tried any of the springs, but I cant imagine they would be anywhere near coilover stiffness level. Also, any new shock/spring combo will feel words better in comparison to 20y.o. suspension, so just stop being a puss and go for it! __________________ Rotaries:They are NOT that complicated!

03-01-2010, 11:27 PM	#5
Gabriel82 サバンナFC3S RX-7 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pomona iTrader: (0) Posts: 107 Rep Power: 15	I have Tanabe GF-210 springs, they feel good and give the car a good drop. __________________ Series 5 GTU

03-02-2010, 09:18 AM	#9
My5ABaby Sigh..... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN iTrader: (6) Posts: 2,377 Rep Power: 19	OEM springs are expensive. I'm not against tracking or Auto-xing, it's just not somethng I currently do or would competitively any time in the forseeable future. __________________ 1986 Sport: 132k miles, 5A (Sapphire Blue Metallic), Tokico Blues, Racing Beat Springs, Custom LED tailights (only S4 LED tails in the world), SSR Mark II, Racing Beat exhaust, S5 black interior, Rotary Resurrection rebuild at 120k miles Community Service Manual RotorWiki "Imagination costs nothing; we could build square locomotives or fly to Mars" - Felix Wankel Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

03-02-2010, 03:57 PM	#11
Gabriel82 サバンナFC3S RX-7 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pomona iTrader: (0) Posts: 107 Rep Power: 15	Just go Tokico Blues and Tanabe GF-210s. Blues are essentially almost an OEM replacement. The Tanabe springs will make the car slightly stiffer but the ride comfort is still the same. Essentially you would have parts that allow you to push the FC through corners a little more than stock but still being a comfortable car to drive to the market, work, or school __________________ Series 5 GTU

03-02-2010, 04:00 PM	#12
Gabriel82 サバンナFC3S RX-7 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Pomona iTrader: (0) Posts: 107 Rep Power: 15	or you can run Eibachs or Teins it depends which brand saves you a couple of bucks here and there. __________________ Series 5 GTU