Rules of Conduct

[Phoenix7]

Hey everyone, as requested here is the clear-cut set of rules that will be implemented at the time of this posting. This applies to everyone, whether it's an Admin or a noob.

The rules will be listed by severity along 3 levels and you will ALWAYS receive an email explaining the warning or ban. If you do not receive an email regarding your infraction then you should contact someone right away.

Level 1 - Instant Ban
These infractions will not allow for a warning. If you violate any of the following you will be booted. You will have 1 chance to contest it so make it good. The length of the ban (1 week, 1 Month or IP) will be up to the moderator's discretion.

1. Posting Porn. If you're not sure, don't post!

2. Clear and blatant spam. We don't want to BUY any unlocked cell-phones, a mail-order bride, or Viagra. If you would like to offer a service to the community please contact someone for a Vendor account.

3. Any vendor, mod and member who makes a negative public display, instead of doing it in one of the private/hidden means, or
divulge information that is supposed to stay in private sections, will be temp or perma banned (depending on severity).

4. Scammers. 0 Tolerance. If there is proof of a scam then you're gone. You cannot contest this IP ban.

Level 2 - 3 strikes (warnings) and you're out.
It's simple. You will receive two warnings and a ban on the third infraction. You will also get 1 chance to contest the first warning. The length of the ban (1 week, 1 Month or IP) will be up to the moderator's discretion.

1. Publicly attacking the administration's actions when it comes to administrative forum issues. Internal issues are just that, INTERNAL. PM the appropriate channels and discuss the problem and solution without making a heated an e-fight about it.

2. Failing to add "NWS" (Not Work Safe) in the title of threads that show gray-area material.

3. Invasion of the privacy of any RCC member.

4. Creating multiple threads on the same subject in multiple sub-forums and/or creating a new thread after another is closed. You can PM any moderator about re-opening any threads that are closed, DO NOT OPEN ANOTHER ONE.

5. Excessive noob bashing, instigating or harassment. NONE in the intro section at all. If you do I will delete your post and warn you. The second time you will be banned.

6. Trolling.

7. Posting in a manner that is instigatory or not showing good fellowship/camaraderie, if you are repeatedly unpleasant to other members and/or constantly harassing our members. No slurs of any kind.


Tier 3 - Mildest of infractions, mostly recommendations.
This kind of infraction will most likely just get you a PM with some tips you should consider implementing in order to continue the steady flow of conversation on any topic.

1. Making vague or confusing thread titles and threads. We're not all English majors but help us help you.

2. Keep the goofing off in the lounge...you're free to do anything you please in there.

You'll find that these rules are not created to "keep you in line" as much as they are guidelines so we can truly solidify the rotary community with open, clear lines of communication. If you have any questions, concerns, or would like to show proof that you've been scammed please PM any MOD ASAP. We don't ask for a selling fee so in return we ask that all of you help us establish a good community free of drama amongst ourselves. We're a small community and we cannot afford to be divided.

Welcome to RotaryCarClub, a forum unlike any other.

Regards,
RCC Staff

[Cp1]

i like the new rules but i have one point of contention (dont take this as questioning lol)

Publicly questioning the administration's actions. Internal issues are just that, INTERNAL. PM the appropriate channels and discuss the problem and solution without making a heated an e-fight about it.

I dont like this one. if theres a genuine problem that a member has with a mod or vice versa, you know like a personal grudge like some of you guys have received from icemark how can we settle it or get other mods involved or make it publicly known if you cant share?

i know my post is badly worded but my point is that i believe keeping complaints private and unknown to the rest of the forum opens up the door for abuse by "power mad" mods to insta ban members they dont like without having a "forum" in which to vent their frustrations... i mean look at the other forum and all the posts and threads of our that were deleted and removed in the name of secrecy! i dont want that to happen here because once it starts, someones going to feel put out, and it will only get worse until we are no longer any different that where we all came from. there needs to be public rants/raves/complaints/questions/etc its what keeps us all focused on keeping this the place we want to bookmark and visit daily!

again not questioning the administrations actions here just making some observations! lol

[Phoenix7]

YOU'RE BANNED BRO!!!!!

I understand what you mean though...the sour taste left in our mouths from the other place is keeping you from trusting us, in the same manner that we trusted the mods at one point, but you can be sure that it will not happen here.

If you truly are concerned then I recommend you CC (carbon copy) the other RCC staff when you PM one of us.....

Example: You have a problem with my actions then you PM me with your issues and add Herblenny, ZGN and RotaryRessurection to the recipient field, that way we can all be included and know what the other is up to.

Transparency is the key here.

[RXtacy]

I dislike level 1 rule 3, and level 2 rule 1. My problem with the first rule is it seems to say that one can not bring public complaint against a member for fraud. If I have gone through the private channels to resolve an issue and it has been ineffective I fully believe I should have the right to bring this to public knowledge. Not only to hopefully resolve my issue but to also warn the community of fraudulent sellers/buyers. As regards to the second rule it seems to be the exact opposite of keeping transparency. Lots of the major complaints about the other site were with regard to being censored. I don't see much difference with that and ensuring that possible complaints go unnoticed by the masses here? My wish with regard to this is not to see the forum dissect itself but rather to see issues discussed democratically. If I am mistaken on the meanings of these rules please educate me as I wish to see this place grow and become a great friendly truly democratic place.

[Kane]

Can we just amend the rule - state treat everyone with respect - mod, vendor, admin and poster alike.

Seems to me as long as no one is attacking each other personally; it should be kept public for educational reasons.

It is the realm of the staff to decide if the spirit of this is being followed...

[Phoenix7]

no no no, you are globally applying this rule.

Example:
this is something that needs to be addressed
http://www.rotarycarclub.com/rotary_...ead.php?t=5531

but complaints about how you don't like how I talk about the evil forum isn't something others want to/should see. In instances such as those, you should PM the person you have issues with. If you feel it was inappropriately handled by me or another mod then DO bring it up publicly.

Does that make sense? If you want to have an open discussion about how you don't like the new vendor section or the for sale section then post it up and let's discuss it and try to find a comproomise where everyone will be satisfied.

You have to figure out if the issue you have is something that should be handled privately or publicly. The issues you brought up SHOULD be discussed publicly.

It's just like Kane says...except that the wording seems appropriate to me. If we make the rules too vague then the room for interpretation is too large.....If it's too detailed then it seems totalitarian. If you're not sure, then all you have to do is ask. Just like you're doing here....

[RXtacy]

I feel that the wording "1. Publicly questioning the administration's actions." seriously contradicts the concept of having democratically selected moderators. It just seems to me that this could easily be used against people that have differing opinions from the mods/admins.

[Phoenix7]

how would you rephrase it?

Also, the democratic method is no longer being employed...you'll notice almost all the mods and admins had their "mod status" revoked until we can sort some things out.

See the last posts in this thread for the reasons why:
http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...?t=5416&page=3

[RXtacy]

I read the end of the thread, and I don't have a problem suspending the democratic process of appointing mods and admins. I would restate it as publicly attacking instead of questioning. The term questioning in there makes it seem as though we can not disagree with the admins mods publicly without risk of the banhammer.

[Phoenix7]

Good call, Done. Feel free to ask anything you want at any time....

[RXtacy]

Cool thanks for listening this is a big part of why I like this forum.

[Cp1]

Originally Posted by RXtacy

I feel that the wording "1. Publicly questioning the administration's actions." seriously contradicts the concept of having democratically selected moderators. It just seems to me that this could easily be used against people that have differing opinions from the mods/admins.

excellent point... i guess the wording was what i had the biggest problem with.

thanks phoenix for fixing it

[silverfd]

You are a good lot here, i like the way things get resolved! Keep up the good work, and be sure i'll be asking a few questions regarding 3rd gens!

[vex]

pheonix! The links are invalid now!

[RexPushin17]

Hey guys im new. Got a 84 Rx7 with the 12A in it I've got oil on my plugs is that no good or what im new to Rotary motors