FC3S Murray's never ending build.

[FC3S Murray]

UPDATE:

So, I had a little hic-up last night with parts and all.

I received my 8.5:1 rotor from Kevin Landers yesterday. Cleaned very well and recommend to everyone. So I put it right next to my other "good" rotor and notice that the RR rotor has a MUCH deeper compression recession..................This STELLAR motor was running S4 N/A 9.4:1 rotors.

I was a little pissed since this was all i needed to start my build......so I thought. Anyhow I emailed Kevin and he agreed to send me another TII S4 rotor for a great price if I shipped him the cleaned S4 N/A rotor.


Now to the IRONS,

As I tore into the wet boxes caused from our thunderstorms all day(thank you post office fucks) I opened up the NEW S4 rear iron that I bought from Mazdatrix. The street ports from BDC was beautiful and so so so CLEAN.

Then I open the next box and inpsect the intermediate iron. This unit was slightly used from a jspec motor from japan2la. Again the iron and ports were GREAT.

On to the next box, I open her up and there I am staring at ANOTHER rear iron that is ported.?.?.?

To be honest I was pretty pissed, not at Japan2la or BDC BUT at the fact that this will burn more time from me getting on the road. I called BDC to insure he didn't mistakenly port a iron out of his stock that was for someone else. He called back and said that those were the irons he got from japan2la and he felt silly he didn't catch the mistake. He missed it due to receiving and porting my new rear iron 2 weeks before the other 2 irons showed up. He just got back from Vacation too between the elapsed time frame. He also stated that he would do a front iron port for no charge once I get the situation figured out with Brian @ Japan2La.

I am awaiting word from them today.


FUN STUFF!!!!!!!

[FC3S Murray]

Rotors




Irons





The second rear iron



Ports are GREAT compared to old engine








I talked to Brian at Japan2La and he is sending a front iron to Brian at BDC ASAP to get ported. He was very polite and I recommend him as well.

I guess I will start clearancing side seals for this one rotor for now.

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

Shit I better get some VAGI-CLEAN and a garden hose.


Well I will clearance them to .05 because I am easily convinced. I am fucking pulling my hair out on this down time waiting for parts.

Yeah ya better. I just finished clearancing all my rotors. Had to buy a new feeler gauge set as the one I had wasn't going thin enough. All my side seals are between .025mm (.001") and .038mm (.0015") Took about 3 hours to do 2 rotors. Glad I bought 14 side seals again

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

I would go a whole other route with a better exhst mani but that means MORE fabriation to my DP and intercooler piping since my blow-off valve barely clears my strut tower. I just want to drive this summer.........winter project maybe if this creep cant be solved(if I break-in IN time for boost).

Dude...... I did a few 250 mile laps around CT to get my engine broken in in time for LimeRock. Would've made it two if we didn't warp those Apex Seals on the dyno I agree though, winter project, get on the fucking road! Summer's 1/2 over already.

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

Rotors
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Ports are GREAT compared to old engine

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I talked to Brian at Japan2La and he is sending a front iron to Brian at BDC ASAP to get ported. He was very polite and I recommend him as well.

I guess I will start clearancing side seals for this one rotor for now.

Nice NICE ports. Very well done I must say.


wait a minute........... no pics of housings?

[FC3S Murray]

Dude...... I did a few 250 mile laps around CT to get my engine broken in in time for LimeRock. Would've made it two if we didn't warp those Apex Seals on the dyno I agree though, winter project, get on the fucking road! Summer's 1/2 over already.

I know I know! I try not to think about how much of summer is gone already. This little hic-up doesn't make it any easier. FUCK I wish I was just rich and didn't have to work full time.

wait a minute........... no pics of housings?

Haha, I tried to take a picture of the housings BUT the surfaces were so smooth and shiney that all I could get was pictures with a huge glare, hehehe.

Those things are nice bro. I hope the RA seals don't eat them up too much.

[13bpower]

After about 1 hour.....



What turbo are you runing.

[FC3S Murray]

Turbonetics 62-1

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

I know I know! I try not to think about how much of summer is gone already. This little hic-up doesn't make it any easier. FUCK I wish I was just rich and didn't have to work full time.


Haha, I tried to take a picture of the housings BUT the surfaces were so smooth and shiney that all I could get was pictures with a huge glare, hehehe.

Those things are nice bro. I hope the RA seals don't eat them up too much.

Glad you like them. I still need to get to the effing PO and send out that vid. Also got something else I'm tossin' in the box that will make your rebuild a shitton easier.

The RA seals don't seem to beat up on the housings too much from what I hear. Especially if you're running premix too.... are you?w

Regarding the RA seals, do NOT use the green bottled gel type superglue. Two out of the 6 assist pieces broke off last night. Infuriating. I found some red bottled superglue with a brush applicator that seems to work wonders.

[FC3S Murray]

Good to know about the glue. Thanks man.

I am ONLY running pre-mix. I am thinking of putting the OMP set up back on, a little extra cash but will be worth it.

What is the best thing to clean the rotors one final time before wraping them up until stacking the motor? I was thinking just gasoline. To actually clean the irons the first time I was gonna use WD-40/ brake clean. WD-40 works great but am unsure if it leaves any harmful residue.

I used diesel back in the day for cleaning the rotors.

Thanks again for the video bro. I have probably a week and a half hold back waiting for this front iron. At LEAST 2 ground shipment cycles due to the fuckers weight.

[project86]

sean... just so you know.. my dd is soooooo much cooler than your fc hahaha lmao! im parkin her this weekend me thinks .. im not sure i have enough money to autox this weekend after i register and stuff. but man.. only problem is its gonna be an hour away and gettin time to work on it is gonna be tough tough tough. then i can start my own rebuild thread :

[FC3S Murray]

So...........Japan2la still hasn't shipped my iron to BDC since the hic-up last WED.

[TitaniumTT]

Lame!!!!!!!!!!

[project86]

gay

[FC3S Murray]

So the iron got shipped yesterday. I have at least a two week wait now. shitty.

I am however starting to clean irons and small accessories. I wonder if I should just soak the irons in something like gas or simple green?

In regards to the rust in coolant jackets, some of those bastards are small enough where i cant get to them with wire brush let alone the dremel. My intermediate iron just has a small amount of surface rust(no major chunking). I am sure that is acceptable and can be left alone correct?

Sorry about the Q'S, just trying to negate what is overkill and what is acceptable.

OH, the small black rubber inserts on the corner seal eyelet..............needed or not?

[FC3S Murray]

So I did some more cleaning today. So far I have:
1 rotor cleaned
rear iron cleaned
Intermediate iron cleaned sort of...
corner seal eyelets and rubbers cleaned
oil control rings/springs cleaned
Rotor housings cleaned

Today when cleaning my intermediate in found some interesting pitting ion the water seal grooves. It was actually reversed pitting like mineral deposits of some sort. I used a apex seal and a dremel ss wire wheel brush to clean them. Now the pitting actually looks like pitting.

Not too much around the bottom or top of iron but seems to be more prevelant on the sides. I am not to impressed by the water jacket condition of these parts by Japan2La. Iron Side seal wear is VERY LITTLE, just can tell this iron was ripped off a static motor and not even cleaned.

I did take a ss brush and wheel to the jackets and got most of the rust off, I am just concerned about the unaccessable areas.
Brian mentioned something about a BOIL at a machine shop. What exactly do they use in the boil(no harmful chemicals)

Here is some picks of the pitting, IT LOOKS WORSE THEN IT ACTUALLY IS, very small depth pits.

[TitaniumTT]

I would consider using some Hylomar in those fireseals for longevity with that pitting........ anyone else have some input on that?

I dunno what they use when they Boil them..... but it never seems to hurt the old iron boiner motors.