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Old 02-20-2013, 10:56 AM   #1
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I rarely venture into build threads, or the performance side of the house anymore. However, your build is absolutely professional. I hope you reap everything that you have painstakingly sowed into this project. You deserve it.
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Old 02-20-2013, 08:40 PM   #2
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Normally I would say the rear would be the weak link as the TII trans are good for some serious power, but 8.8 so I'm curious to see which explodes first.
FWIW we're creating a stock of TII and REW trans, rebuilt and cryo'ed, ready to abuse/

I think you and MC (2gslse) need to have a chat about the RESpeed kit.... I'm still of the mind that a proper alignment will solve it though, MC

Congrats man! Can't wait to see this monster.... chat it up this year we must
thanks guys, yes Titanium, due to space..and configuration issues my first plan in response to a trans failure will be a beefed up version, such as they are, then if that just wont cut it, ill do the dirty deed and adapt something like a T56 or R154, the r154 is a really tempting install, they are super strong and dirt cheap, and work well once rebuilt with aftermarket pieces.
the t56 would just be kick ass though, uber O/D and nearly bullet proof for the power im making.

anyway, as far as i am concerned unless i dont make it there due to environmental reasons, or unforseen mechanical failure ill just add to my already silly credit car bill and hit the mountains with vengence...and tender throttle inputs

worst part of the whole deal is im going to lose my speedo accuracy...so ill have to run the gps speedo for a while till i get used to converting my speedo in my head hehehe

i found no good solution to the Rmodel transmission speedo gear, so at some point i will probably buy one of those electric speedo drives and run a mag/speed sensor on the diff and then i can tune it exact.
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thanks guys, yes Titanium, due to space..and configuration issues my first plan in response to a trans failure will be a beefed up version, such as they are, then if that just wont cut it, ill do the dirty deed and adapt something like a T56 or R154, the r154 is a really tempting install, they are super strong and dirt cheap, and work well once rebuilt with aftermarket pieces.
the t56 would just be kick ass though, uber O/D and nearly bullet proof for the power im making.

anyway, as far as i am concerned unless i dont make it there due to environmental reasons, or unforseen mechanical failure ill just add to my already silly credit car bill and hit the mountains with vengence...and tender throttle inputs

worst part of the whole deal is im going to lose my speedo accuracy...so ill have to run the gps speedo for a while till i get used to converting my speedo in my head hehehe

i found no good solution to the Rmodel transmission speedo gear, so at some point i will probably buy one of those electric speedo drives and run a mag/speed sensor on the diff and then i can tune it exact.
Kewl... sounds great.... as for the CC bill.... Meh..... I have ways

For the speedo.... check out a co called advanced adapters or Speedometer solutions... I have used both of them in the past with great success... Speedometer solutions sells a piece that places a halleffect sensor where the cable once lived.... works wonders... loved it when I was using it.

Advanced Adapters will build gears to adapt different tire sizes and rear end ratios for the NP transfer cases, they may be able to help with a gear... and I know I've seen in the past a little gizmo, I think it was from them or Dakota Digital that wil alter the output shaft speed to get the speedo correct... works on the same principal as those steering quickners....
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:49 PM   #4
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and now for some comparison shots....


here is the car with turbo 12a power


and here it is in TT v8 trim....muahahahha
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as far as the REspeed kit...i will refrain from too much bashing on behalf of the REspeed and Grannies, but i had to re-engineer quite a bit of both companies work to make it right.

both companies shorted me a few pieces and assorted hardware, that locally actually proved difficult to get, ended up having to order stuff from a bolt house down the road and wait for it.

as far as operation of the REspeed set up...too soon to tell you since its not properly aligned yet, it seems to be ok, i put a 15:1 manual rack in it.
i dont want to say it has bump steer...because it tracks pretty straight, BUT it is rather abusive to the steering wheel and requires a firm hold on it when road is rutted

some of the problem there could be from me having to lower the rack down with offset bushings changing the angle of the tie rods slightly from the original geometry, but i had no choice.

one thing i am for certain, despite all the quarks it has or might have in time...it is 5000000000% better than that &^*&^^$$$$*&^$*^%$ draglink...
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That sounds like the same vibe I have in my car and it wasn't there before I did the rack and pinion swap I have checked and rechecked and found nothing wrong with mine either. when I did my swap I replaced everything in the front at 1 time, steering, 5 lug conversion, new shocks, coilovers,lower control arms etc... I am about to just pitch the R&P and just put my stock parts back on.
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I know when I drove a local's SA with the RE-Speed kit, I had a serious brown moment when the steering wheel started to shake like hell. The 2 bolts that secure the spindle to the LCA's had worked loose, somehow. Once tightened, it went away, but I know his has some other issues as well. Like for some reason, it is harder to turn left than right. Weird.

The FC subframe on his daughters car has no issues though
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It is one of my upgrades that wasn't really needed but I thought would be a great improvement when I did it but I like the kit but don't love it. my complaints on it are the vibration of the wheel and at low speeds in parking lots the car fights itself when turning(ackerman issues) I talked to Brian about mine and if it doesn't get better soon I will be removing the R&P and putting my old steering back in.
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I was just thinking about this build and had a great idea! I think once you and MC get all the kinks out, what better thing to do than put two silver FBs against each other V8TT vs single turbo 13BRE On a more serious note I hope both of you can get things sorted out very impressive builds!
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I was just thinking about this build and had a great idea! I think once you and MC get all the kinks out, what better thing to do than put two silver FBs against each other V8TT vs single turbo 13BRE On a more serious note I hope both of you can get things sorted out very impressive builds!
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here is a run down of my steering details easily viewed in the pics, but its just FYI and for comparison reasons as we all try to figure out wtf is causing this.

i have a manual 15:1 rack
solid offset rack bushings
ALL energy suspension bushings/tie rod boots
new ball joints, bearings have 6500miles and are adjusted proper
KYB strut inserts, 6500miles
RE-speed Xmember/steering arms
new tie rod ends
tie rod adapters are maximized on the threads, meaning i have little adjustment for toe needs so maximum amount of thread is engaged
.750 thick roll center blocks under the strut
i have 280# springs
adjustable camber plates
custom spring tops riding on torington bearings
15x7 +35 wheel
205/50/15 tire

i never took the strut insert apart for the current mods, i just added the adjustable camber plates, and the .750 roll center blocks, that i am going to remove and try without. i never had this vibe before, and at first i was blaming the new tires, but i dont think they are the cause.

oddly the car is super reactive, the slightest input will result in direction change, but when the wheel is vibrating at its worst the car tracks straight and true....

i think once we find the cause of this a LOT of people are going to be made happy...including myself..im tired of problems...if i wanted problems i would have kept the 12a
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straightened and repainted the rear bumper, its not "perfect" anymore...but most people will never notice, I will...but just going to have to live with it until I chance upon one that is better, which ya'll know isn't easy to find....I am still very amazed at how it withstood that impact, how the car managed to escape panel damage and at how i managed to collect my senses enough to not get myself put in jail...
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If the steering wheel shakes it's a tire nine times out of ten.

Did you tighten the thread adapters properly on the rack setup? Cause I have the same one and have no issues at all. I bought mine when Mr. Waits still owned RE-Speed though so I don't know if that matters or not. I didn't feel like reading that thread you posted.
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Beautiful car man! I enjoyed seeing it at DGRR, glad you made it out!
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