Ideas for swaps other than a V8.

Whizbang · 09-17-2008, 07:38 AM

i have some pictures of some of the setups.

Whizbang · 09-17-2008, 07:51 AM

at any rate, the only swap that i would consider aside from another rotary would be a form of I4 that had good support with the after market. After seeing the local guy do the 4G63(4) swap into an FC3S, i think that might be a very interesting way to go. The motor is very durable when used correctly and parts are extremely common and cheap.

Whizbang · 09-17-2008, 09:23 PM

The other swap would be the FE3.

Its all mazda and the turbo II trans can bolt to it via a B2000/2200 bellhousing

these are the FE3 rods next to an Sr20 rod

warwickben · 09-23-2008, 04:30 AM

wow any specs on the dront end trans of that car? the awd rotary.

Whizbang · 09-23-2008, 07:33 AM

im not sure but i have a hunch that the transmission is a mazda truck transmission seeing how both the smooth case and the R transmissions come in 4x4 truck variants. The front differential i could say. Doesnt quite look aftermarket...

warwickben · 09-23-2008, 02:19 PM

i found a web site awhile back that said what the setup was but i cant find it any where.
if they used all stock parts i could get them from my step dad's work dirt cheap. i guess iam going to have to start a thread to try t get info. if i can get list of all the parts i mite not sell my sa. ive been up in the air about it.

SouthSideSlider · 11-13-2008, 05:28 PM

i dont know if its been mentioned but the ford and volvo 2.3L tubro motors.
also a BMW V12 perhaps.

warwickben · 11-14-2008, 06:14 AM

how about a turbo ford sohc 2.3 block (turbo capri and turbo gt mustang and svo mustang) with the volvo dohc head swap. you get the better block and a better head. the na guys of stangnet who have done this make the same power as the stock 2.3 turbo motor from ford. doing the head swap adds 100hp na. on a turbo block running stock boost but with a custome tune, just the head added close to 200hp. bassicaly its not that hard to do.just run a one extanal oil line and have a little block welded to the head.

Whizbang · 11-14-2008, 10:34 AM

there is a kit for the 2.3 turbo into the FC from Granny's.

im considering doing something with an FE3

warwickben · 11-14-2008, 04:27 PM

wish they made it for the fb. but dont.but dont they make one for a 5.0? if so it will work just need the motor mounts from a capri or mustang gt turbo not a svo.

Whizbang · 11-14-2008, 04:43 PM

ooo tricky tricky.

warwickben · 11-14-2008, 04:50 PM

what? lol

Whizbang · 11-14-2008, 04:52 PM

i dig odd compatibility.

warwickben · 11-14-2008, 05:27 PM

yeah me too lol. ive said this before but me and a buddy own a 84 rs turbo capri. we are still rebuilding the car, but we fully rebuilt and made the stock 2.3 turbo motor better. new sohc head, custom cam, added straps for the main bearings. i fabed a custom turbo mani and made a custom upper intake mani for a 70 mm tb.bigger t3/t4 25 psi. raised the redline on the motor. list goes on. we got just the motor dynoed and it made around 450 ish. theres a few sohc 2.3 motors making close to 600.

we have a spare turbo 2.3 block and the volvo head. all the work need to mount the head is done. welded a block of aluminum to the back of the head, and gasket matched the head and block. some of the oil and water passages are slightly off. and ran the one external oil line needed. othere then that the block is empty no crank ect ect. where going to run the car for a few years with the stock motor then swap in the forvo motor lol.

Whizbang · 11-14-2008, 05:30 PM

i used to have a 2.3T engine at my shop in ohio laying around. Sold it to Peejay in Cleveland which should wind up in his rallycross car eventually.

what volvo has the head?

09-17-2008, 07:38 AM	#76
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp iTrader: (5) Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 20	i have some pictures of some of the setups. __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook

09-17-2008, 07:51 AM	#77
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp iTrader: (5) Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 20	at any rate, the only swap that i would consider aside from another rotary would be a form of I4 that had good support with the after market. After seeing the local guy do the 4G63(4) swap into an FC3S, i think that might be a very interesting way to go. The motor is very durable when used correctly and parts are extremely common and cheap. __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook Last edited by Whizbang; 09-17-2008 at 08:28 AM..

09-17-2008, 09:23 PM	#78
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp iTrader: (5) Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 20	The other swap would be the FE3. Its all mazda and the turbo II trans can bolt to it via a B2000/2200 bellhousing these are the FE3 rods next to an Sr20 rod __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook

09-23-2008, 04:30 AM	#79
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	wow any specs on the dront end trans of that car? the awd rotary. __________________

09-23-2008, 07:33 AM	#80
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp iTrader: (5) Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 20	im not sure but i have a hunch that the transmission is a mazda truck transmission seeing how both the smooth case and the R transmissions come in 4x4 truck variants. The front differential i could say. Doesnt quite look aftermarket... __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook

09-23-2008, 02:19 PM	#81
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	i found a web site awhile back that said what the setup was but i cant find it any where. if they used all stock parts i could get them from my step dad's work dirt cheap. i guess iam going to have to start a thread to try t get info. if i can get list of all the parts i mite not sell my sa. ive been up in the air about it. __________________

11-13-2008, 05:28 PM	#82
SouthSideSlider Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Goose Creek/Summerville iTrader: (0) Posts: 60 Rep Power: 17	i dont know if its been mentioned but the ford and volvo 2.3L tubro motors. also a BMW V12 perhaps. __________________ 2000 Acura Integra GS: daily driver 1990 Mazda RX-7 GTU: parts car. 1986 Mazda RX-7 base: under the knife.(no sunroof!!!) 1989 Volvo 745 turbo: B230ET,19T turbo,850 Turbo injectors,HKS Manual Boost Controler,Port/Polish,Oversized valves,titanium valve springs,M-Cam,G80 locker,modded AW71 transmission.

11-14-2008, 06:14 AM	#83
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	how about a turbo ford sohc 2.3 block (turbo capri and turbo gt mustang and svo mustang) with the volvo dohc head swap. you get the better block and a better head. the na guys of stangnet who have done this make the same power as the stock 2.3 turbo motor from ford. doing the head swap adds 100hp na. on a turbo block running stock boost but with a custome tune, just the head added close to 200hp. bassicaly its not that hard to do.just run a one extanal oil line and have a little block welded to the head. __________________

11-14-2008, 10:34 AM	#84
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp iTrader: (5) Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 20	there is a kit for the 2.3 turbo into the FC from Granny's. im considering doing something with an FE3 __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook

11-14-2008, 04:27 PM	#85
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	wish they made it for the fb. but dont.but dont they make one for a 5.0? if so it will work just need the motor mounts from a capri or mustang gt turbo not a svo. __________________

11-14-2008, 04:43 PM	#86
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp iTrader: (5) Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 20	ooo tricky tricky. __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook

11-14-2008, 04:50 PM	#87
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	what? lol __________________

11-14-2008, 04:52 PM	#88
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp iTrader: (5) Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 20	i dig odd compatibility. __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook

11-14-2008, 05:27 PM	#89
warwickben sa rat rod Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: tewksbury ma iTrader: (4) Posts: 408 Rep Power: 17	yeah me too lol. ive said this before but me and a buddy own a 84 rs turbo capri. we are still rebuilding the car, but we fully rebuilt and made the stock 2.3 turbo motor better. new sohc head, custom cam, added straps for the main bearings. i fabed a custom turbo mani and made a custom upper intake mani for a 70 mm tb.bigger t3/t4 25 psi. raised the redline on the motor. list goes on. we got just the motor dynoed and it made around 450 ish. theres a few sohc 2.3 motors making close to 600. we have a spare turbo 2.3 block and the volvo head. all the work need to mount the head is done. welded a block of aluminum to the back of the head, and gasket matched the head and block. some of the oil and water passages are slightly off. and ran the one external oil line needed. othere then that the block is empty no crank ect ect. where going to run the car for a few years with the stock motor then swap in the forvo motor lol. __________________

11-14-2008, 05:30 PM	#90
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp iTrader: (5) Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 20	i used to have a 2.3T engine at my shop in ohio laying around. Sold it to Peejay in Cleveland which should wind up in his rallycross car eventually. what volvo has the head? __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook Last edited by Whizbang; 11-14-2008 at 05:34 PM..