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Old 10-25-2008, 02:50 PM   #61
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Update: Scott sent me radiator fan, drive shaft end links, and some incomplete shifter linkage. Mostly useless stuff from his RX7 pile.

If he doesn't contact me back immediately, I'll take further actions.
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I plan on taking the transmission out tomorrow to see exactly what clutch I got this weekend. If the end can be viewed from the outside of the engine, some pics would help alot. thanks again.
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Received radiator fans, used rx7 driveshaft endlinks, and used rx7 shifter housing with no shifter linkage.

I'll now consider hiring a lawyer to take Scott to court. I think I rather loose lawyer retainer fee for a final closure than to waste another year waiting for parts.

If you're considering sending money to Mazsport now, please think twice. Don't say I didn't warn you.






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Old 10-25-2008, 03:15 PM   #62
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This is from his "20b must go on" thread.

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weird thing that scott told me was he said I only should use one engine mount on the driver's side and no engine mount on the passenger side. it seemed like a very dumb idea, but i thought i'd ask here before i have someone fab the missing mount for me. scott said something about windshield breaking if i have solid mounts on both sides.

that torque brace that mounts to the front of the engine & to the chassis is made of aluminum and is not very thick. initially scott told me that's all the car needs to hold the engine. he can be right; it just didn't make much sense to me. i just wanted to double check here.

i'll take some pics tomorrow & post.
Do you guys think it's a good idea to run with only one engine mount? With the power that the 20b puts out, I don't think one engine mount is going to work with the engine brace that Stick described.
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:33 PM   #63
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I would NEVER use one mount - I mean come on; common sense dictates that you need to support the weight and strain across as large a part of the car as possible.
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:54 PM   #64
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the only and the biggest problem has been and will always be actually getting on the phone to talk to a lawyer. i work about 16-20hrs/day 6-7 days/wk. current situation makes it extremely difficult for me to do anything outside of my normal life routine.

yesterday, i came home at 2am to 5 msg's from 2 lawyers i had contacted. i called them up this morning, but they're both closed during the weekends. good news is that i've been told i have a case for fraud. so next week, i'll be trying to get in touch with a district attorney which won't cost me anything.

update: driveshaft endlinks mazsport sent were both too big (tried without the seals too--way too big for the output shaft & 4 bolts in the rear) they also have some "click" when i move the joints. they're both doing that, so i'm hoping it's normal. either way, it doesn't fit my tranny or my diff box, so they're both useless. shifter housing, as i had mentioned, is incomplete without any linkages and is useless.

i hope he's having lot of fun pissing me off now.
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Old 10-25-2008, 03:59 PM   #65
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I would NEVER use one mount - I mean come on; common sense dictates that you need to support the weight and strain across as large a part of the car as possible.
Shows how much Scott knows about installing engines... I'm never dealing with him ever, and the company, ever again. They make top notch products but the company itself is very shady...
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Old 10-25-2008, 06:32 PM   #66
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He's making sure he has repeat customers? who knows....That's just me being a pessimist.

I'mm have to se this mount....brb
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Old 10-27-2008, 05:56 PM   #67
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well, I asked for pics and I'm just waiting on them....It looks like the mototr is just sitting on the member....
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Old 10-27-2008, 06:08 PM   #68
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i'm suing mazsport scott. Details are here:
http://www.rx8club.com/showpost.php?...&postcount=223

anyone who has been deceived and/or mistreated by mazsport scott, please pm me with any details. This includes those who have waiting for their service/product currently and those who had experienced any unforeseen delay in receiving mazsport product after your payment.

Actual payment record would be great, but i can also retrieve scott's private and business bank account record, so a payment date (with delayed proof of shipment or your consent for a phone confirmation by a judge and my lawyer) will also be enough to add to my law suit. As for payment record, any cc/check/bank statement record would be sufficient. Btw, i just the relevant line--i don't need the entire page.

I've already posted this in my original thread but since the thread is constantly growing, i believe another thread will be much more visible.

Once we have enough evidence, lawyer retainer fee will be sent by me and i'll update everyone here with another thread on the progress.

Thanks everyone.
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Looks like he's gonna get his just deserts.
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weird thing that scott told me was he said I only should use one engine mount on the driver's side and no engine mount on the passenger side. it seemed like a very dumb idea, but i thought i'd ask here before i have someone fab the missing mount for me. scott said something about windshield breaking if i have solid mounts on both sides.

that torque brace that mounts to the front of the engine & to the chassis is made of aluminum and is not very thick. initially scott told me that's all the car needs to hold the engine. he can be right; it just didn't make much sense to me. i just wanted to double check here.

i'll take some pics tomorrow & post.
This is from his "20b must go on" thread.

Do you guys think it's a good idea to run with only one engine mount? With the power that the 20b puts out, I don't think one engine mount is going to work with the engine brace that Stick described.
Come on guys. It sounds to me like you're taking the words literally. That he would only have 1 mount. I believe the point Scott was making was that 2 solid aluminum mounts would provide no room for flex, so the chassis would absorb it all. As the front of the frame flexes, the twist is carried to the cockpit, thus potentially causing the window to break. 1 solid mount would suffice but it is implied that the other would be a standard rubber bushing type.

When sitting there both supports are needed. But when accelerating, only One side will be taking the brunt of the force, the other side is more or less holding the engine steady. It's absurd to imply or believe 1 engine mount would suffice. What makes sense is that 1 mount is special, it's solid aluminum.... and the other is just normal.
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Old 11-14-2008, 11:38 PM   #71
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Is Mazsport GONE?!

Their subforum on the 8 club disappeared today
Their website is offline
Their ebay store is no longer there

Here's a thread on the 8 club:
http://www.rx8club.com/showthread.ph...36#post2726536
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Old 11-15-2008, 05:27 AM   #73
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so many questions, so few answers.
Scott hasn't posted in WEEKS on the 8 club and then all of a sudden he disappears.

People close to him had been telling us he was taking "holiday time", guess that was code for closing up shop and getting the hell out of town.
If the ebay store and website were down, I could chalk that up to technical errors but having his subforum pulled from the 8 club?! That's only done if Internet brands gives you the BOOT or if you ASK to be removed. Hmmm....

I feel bad for all the people who sent Scott money the past few months and are expecting parts to be shipped out
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In a way I feel bad for Scott. Even though it seems like he brought everything on himself, he just lost his business, his passion, many supporters, reputation.

He will now live forever with the guilt as though he killed someone.

He was apart of somthing good and a business owners nightmare happened.

Nothing is worse in life then being labeld an outcast or a lepor.

Sorry for everyone who got screwed.

Sorry for Scott because his dream has been crushed and now is labeld in the rotary community, but because of his own mistakes.
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