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Whizbang · 04-25-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow24v

well, found out what the 2-beep code is, but don't have a clue where to look to fix it

from the "other" site's FAQ "2-beeps, pause, repeat - in case abnormality of engine speed signal:
The buzzer sounds twice and repeats when the vehicle speed signal is missing input and/or no engine speed signal is found (short circuit, broken wire, etc.)"

we have this in our FAQ as well.

Shadow24v · 04-25-2009, 03:34 PM

hmmm, i haven't been able to locate the FAQ threads here, im probably looking in the wrong threads/places

Also, i see that mazdatrix has the inner and middle boots for the 86-88 shifters but i don't see a lower bushing, just an upper....

Also, any idea on fixing the beep code?

Whizbang · 04-25-2009, 03:36 PM

for the 1st gen, 2nd gen and Trans / Diff faqs, they are at the top of their respective sections or in my signature.

I am not my laptop which has the FSMs, but i would go to the 2nd gen section, you should see the stickied thread with links to the FSMs downloads in PDF format. Download them. there will be some good information in there somewhere.

Shadow24v · 04-25-2009, 04:16 PM

ok, i did download the FSM so ill take a gander through that for the beep code fixes, thanks

still trying to find the shifter seal, lower and upper shifter bushings and middle boot for less than an arm and a leg, but i don't know if i can. is Mazdatrix the only real place to get those aside from the dealer?

My5ABaby · 04-25-2009, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow24v

ok, i did download the FSM so ill take a gander through that for the beep code fixes, thanks

still trying to find the shifter seal, lower and upper shifter bushings and middle boot for less than an arm and a leg, but i don't know if i can. is Mazdatrix the only real place to get those aside from the dealer?

Call Ray Crowe at Malloy Mazda.

Shadow24v · 04-26-2009, 09:19 AM

do they ship?im in OH lol

Im going to be replacing the clutch MC and starter today and see how it goes. maybe get to drive it some more!

Also, i have scoured the web looking for a solution to the 2-beep code m getting but all ive found is a definition of the code, not where to look to fix it. Ive even looked through the FSM but i can;t find anything in there either. any help would be most appreciated

vex · 04-26-2009, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadow24v

do they ship?im in OH lol

Yes, they ship. I know for me it is 5 dollar shipping on anything--but I'm in-state)

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Im going to be replacing the clutch MC and starter today and see how it goes. maybe get to drive it some more!

Also, i have scoured the web looking for a solution to the 2-beep code m getting but all ive found is a definition of the code, not where to look to fix it. Ive even looked through the FSM but i can;t find anything in there either. any help would be most appreciated

Is your idle set incorrectly? When I had a beep similar to that my idle was set incorrectly and it was high so the computer spat at me.

Shadow24v · 04-27-2009, 08:14 AM

AFAIK it is, it only idled low after driving it. Also the beep only started once i started driving the car

vex · 04-27-2009, 09:58 AM

a properly set idle and an incorrectly set idle are hard to justify only by idle speed.

Shadow24v · 04-27-2009, 10:46 AM

oh? what are the criteria for a correctly set idle on a rotary then?

AFAIK idle speed is the primary governor for a properly set idle on a piston car....

vex · 04-27-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Shadow24v

oh? what are the criteria for a correctly set idle on a rotary then?

AFAIK idle speed is the primary governor for a properly set idle on a piston car....

Look up the procedure in the FSM. I had to adjust the secondary throttle plates as well as the air bleed screw to properly set the idle. I doubt you'll have to do that though since it's usually set and locked from the factory.

Shadow24v · 04-27-2009, 10:43 PM

ill look into that if it still is idling oddly.

im just waiting for a new starter. the goombah at auto-stoned told me it would be in sunday but didn't realize it was drop-shipping from the manufacturer and wouldn't be in til tuesday

i probably could have had one elsewhere by sunday but they were all more expensive and i also turned my core in at auto-stoned

well, at least this should help with starting as the old one was finicky about how fast it would spin over and if it decided to get stuck or not.

replaced the clutch MC, it was leaking into the insulation and thats why i didn't see the leak inside the car. just need to bleed it and it should be good to go

Shadow24v · 04-28-2009, 12:14 PM

picked up the new starter today and its a MUCH beefier unit than the one i pulled out. about 1/2"-1" larger diameter on the motor casing and they helicoiled one of the bolt holes. the upper one i believe, that had the long bolt through the rear end plate and a nut to hold the starter in place. i'll see how it fits today, i don't foresee a problem but you never know lol

vex · 04-28-2009, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shadow24v

picked up the new starter today and its a MUCH beefier unit than the one i pulled out. about 1/2"-1" larger diameter on the motor casing and they helicoiled one of the bolt holes. the upper one i believe, that had the long bolt through the rear end plate and a nut to hold the starter in place. i'll see how it fits today, i don't foresee a problem but you never know lol

huh?

The upper bolt hole is a through hole. You're supposed to have a nut and bolt connect on the upper. If they helicoiled the lower, I could see that.

Shadow24v · 04-29-2009, 06:22 AM

yeah, the top one was helicoiled for the long bolt and nut, the bottom was still just a through hole for the short bolt.

Got everything in and she turned right over and caught. revved to 3000 and idled down to around 1000. she's still smoking like a chimney though, blue and white smoke. as far as i can tell she seems to be running fine except for some timing issues. Im going to reset the timing today hopefully and see if that helps. L1 was misfiring a little (you could hear it when it did and see it on the light) and T2 wasn't firing at all.

Any idea what all the smoke could be? i hope to get a vid soon so you can see/hear what is going on. Also, after you rev it a bit to move it, the idle dropped to 500ish. I hope i don't need a rebuild

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04-25-2009, 03:34 PM	#2
Shadow24v Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 69 Rep Power: 17	hmmm, i haven't been able to locate the FAQ threads here, im probably looking in the wrong threads/places Also, i see that mazdatrix has the inner and middle boots for the 86-88 shifters but i don't see a lower bushing, just an upper.... Also, any idea on fixing the beep code?

04-25-2009, 04:16 PM	#4
Shadow24v Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 69 Rep Power: 17	ok, i did download the FSM so ill take a gander through that for the beep code fixes, thanks still trying to find the shifter seal, lower and upper shifter bushings and middle boot for less than an arm and a leg, but i don't know if i can. is Mazdatrix the only real place to get those aside from the dealer?

04-26-2009, 09:19 AM	#6
Shadow24v Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 69 Rep Power: 17	do they ship?im in OH lol Im going to be replacing the clutch MC and starter today and see how it goes. maybe get to drive it some more! Also, i have scoured the web looking for a solution to the 2-beep code m getting but all ive found is a definition of the code, not where to look to fix it. Ive even looked through the FSM but i can;t find anything in there either. any help would be most appreciated

04-27-2009, 08:14 AM	#8
Shadow24v Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 69 Rep Power: 17	AFAIK it is, it only idled low after driving it. Also the beep only started once i started driving the car

04-27-2009, 10:46 AM	#10
Shadow24v Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 69 Rep Power: 17	oh? what are the criteria for a correctly set idle on a rotary then? AFAIK idle speed is the primary governor for a properly set idle on a piston car....

04-27-2009, 10:43 PM	#12
Shadow24v Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 69 Rep Power: 17	ill look into that if it still is idling oddly. im just waiting for a new starter. the goombah at auto-stoned told me it would be in sunday but didn't realize it was drop-shipping from the manufacturer and wouldn't be in til tuesday i probably could have had one elsewhere by sunday but they were all more expensive and i also turned my core in at auto-stoned well, at least this should help with starting as the old one was finicky about how fast it would spin over and if it decided to get stuck or not. replaced the clutch MC, it was leaking into the insulation and thats why i didn't see the leak inside the car. just need to bleed it and it should be good to go

04-28-2009, 12:14 PM	#13
Shadow24v Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 69 Rep Power: 17	picked up the new starter today and its a MUCH beefier unit than the one i pulled out. about 1/2"-1" larger diameter on the motor casing and they helicoiled one of the bolt holes. the upper one i believe, that had the long bolt through the rear end plate and a nut to hold the starter in place. i'll see how it fits today, i don't foresee a problem but you never know lol

04-29-2009, 06:22 AM	#15
Shadow24v Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 69 Rep Power: 17	yeah, the top one was helicoiled for the long bolt and nut, the bottom was still just a through hole for the short bolt. Got everything in and she turned right over and caught. revved to 3000 and idled down to around 1000. she's still smoking like a chimney though, blue and white smoke. as far as i can tell she seems to be running fine except for some timing issues. Im going to reset the timing today hopefully and see if that helps. L1 was misfiring a little (you could hear it when it did and see it on the light) and T2 wasn't firing at all. Any idea what all the smoke could be? i hope to get a vid soon so you can see/hear what is going on. Also, after you rev it a bit to move it, the idle dropped to 500ish. I hope i don't need a rebuild