Re-installing air conditioning

speedjunkie · 10-25-2013, 06:48 PM

Thanks! Well if I have problems with it I'll replace it this winter.

Oh OK. I had my original condenser but it was too beat up, so I found another one and bought it, but then when I removed my ducting I discovered the stock condenser was still too wide for where I was mounting it, so I opted for the universal one. Why are you getting a larger condenser for R134a? I'm planning on using the same refrigerant but my condenser is smaller than the stock one.

RXtacy · 10-29-2013, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie

Thanks! Well if I have problems with it I'll replace it this winter.

Oh OK. I had my original condenser but it was too beat up, so I found another one and bought it, but then when I removed my ducting I discovered the stock condenser was still too wide for where I was mounting it, so I opted for the universal one. Why are you getting a larger condenser for R134a? I'm planning on using the same refrigerant but my condenser is smaller than the stock one.

R134a is less efficient than R12, and therefore needs a larger condenser to achieve the same ⌂T. IE the conditioned air won't be as cold.

speedjunkie · 10-29-2013, 05:10 PM

Dammit. lol Well maybe I'll keep an eye out for a more efficient refrigerant, because I really don't feel like reworking my whole system to fit a larger condenser. Or I'll just try R134a first. It's not like it gets SUPER hot here anyway.

RXtacy · 10-31-2013, 09:24 AM

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If ES12 is the same stuff I think it is, it's based on propane/butane. Check with someone more knowlegeable than the evil forum on that since flamable stuff in the AC just sounds like a bad idea.

Lots of refrigerants are hydrocarbon based, that's nothing new. R-134a is tetraflouroethane, and R-12 is Dichlorodiflouromethane for example.

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie

Dammit. lol Well maybe I'll keep an eye out for a more efficient refrigerant, because I really don't feel like reworking my whole system to fit a larger condenser. Or I'll just try R134a first. It's not like it gets SUPER hot here anyway.

Definitely give it a shot. I would also not hesitate to run ES-12 if 134a doesn't work. ES-12 should be similar to R-12 efficiency wise.

t_g_farrell · 10-31-2013, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by speedjunkie

Dammit. lol Well maybe I'll keep an eye out for a more efficient refrigerant, because I really don't feel like reworking my whole system to fit a larger condenser. Or I'll just try R134a first. It's not like it gets SUPER hot here anyway.

DustOff FTW! Its has the same cooling characteristics as R12 and is loads
cheaper. Also will work well with existing condenser.

antman0408 · 10-31-2013, 04:07 PM

I fixed the leak in my system this summer and charged it with the duster stuff. 2 cans for $10, it's cheap enough that I would just try it with this stuff first and see how it works in your car.

speedjunkie · 10-31-2013, 10:24 PM

Well I was planning on trying DustOff or something but then I was reading about it being flammable and all that. So I started looking at more conventional stuff.

10-25-2013, 06:48 PM	#31
speedjunkie RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO iTrader: (1) Posts: 2,089 Rep Power: 19	Thanks! Well if I have problems with it I'll replace it this winter. Oh OK. I had my original condenser but it was too beat up, so I found another one and bought it, but then when I removed my ducting I discovered the stock condenser was still too wide for where I was mounting it, so I opted for the universal one. Why are you getting a larger condenser for R134a? I'm planning on using the same refrigerant but my condenser is smaller than the stock one.

10-29-2013, 05:10 PM	#33
speedjunkie RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO iTrader: (1) Posts: 2,089 Rep Power: 19	Dammit. lol Well maybe I'll keep an eye out for a more efficient refrigerant, because I really don't feel like reworking my whole system to fit a larger condenser. Or I'll just try R134a first. It's not like it gets SUPER hot here anyway.

10-31-2013, 04:07 PM	#36
antman0408 Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Jan 2009 iTrader: (1) Posts: 61 Rep Power: 16	I fixed the leak in my system this summer and charged it with the duster stuff. 2 cans for $10, it's cheap enough that I would just try it with this stuff first and see how it works in your car.

10-31-2013, 10:24 PM	#37
speedjunkie RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Colorado Springs, CO iTrader: (1) Posts: 2,089 Rep Power: 19	Well I was planning on trying DustOff or something but then I was reading about it being flammable and all that. So I started looking at more conventional stuff.