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#31 |
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Where did you mount the coils on the FD? space is limited. How much do you charge to tune a power FC? I have a good tune on my FD at the moment but I think it could be better. how is the drivability of your tune on the power fc compared to the haltech
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#32 |
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Sorry to highjack the thread....
Mounting the Merc coils in the FD is a PITA. I'll need to take a pic. Basically, they're lined up in an aluminum bracket and sit under the master cylinder at an angle of about 30-40* running down from front to back. Only place I could find to mount them after a whole lot of time spent staring at the car. The fit ended up being nice and functional but you now have to change the plugs from under the car. I like working with the PFC for the most part. Driveability ca be quite good. The PFC has some major quirks (minimum of 1.8 mS injector on time regardless of what you actually program makes it fun to run large primary injectors) but once you have experience with it and knowledge of the Datalogit interface it's a very good system. I'd prefer a full standalone but it is what it is.
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#33 |
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Alright, Almost a month and things are coming together..........
![]() I would LOVE to have part of an FD harness that has the connector for the ignitors and the coils. I'll check again, I SHOULD have this but I'm not seeing it. Merc coils and connectors RX8 Coils and connectors a second set of Denso coils - D585's if they are NOT the auto ignite or a set of D510C's if someone is planning an RX8 upgrade. MSD 6A box for the FC coils Looking to be on the dyno 4/10 to torture these things.
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-The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. -Angry Motherf*cker Mode ENGAGED- |
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On thier way to me, thanks MC! BTW - what did you pay for those? Took the PN Chris supplied to my wholesaler, thier cost is ~$60, mine would be ~$80, list is ~$120 No connectors like 034 has though. Would need to source those seperately. Waytek should have them, it's just a matter of figureing out which one it is Still need, where are you Bill? Quote:
On it's way to me, thanks much Rotary Prophet!
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-The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. -Angry Motherf*cker Mode ENGAGED- |
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#35 |
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034 has the Merc coils for $72 with the connector. Imagine that's where MC got his. You're seeing what I've seen, inability to find a less expensive source so that I can offer them. I just send everybody to 034.
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#36 |
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I've got one more place to try, they usually set me up a little better. Out of curiousity, what tyoe of connector is that? Looks like a metripack 280 series.....
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-The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. -Angry Motherf*cker Mode ENGAGED- |
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#37 |
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#38 |
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Gotcha, seems a little steep but my normal supply houses (Waytekwire and TerminalSupplyco) don't seem to stock them.... interesting
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-The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. -Angry Motherf*cker Mode ENGAGED- |
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#39 |
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034 motorsports is where I got them C. Ludwig was kind enough to reccomend them and provided the like to me. it seems like a odd place to buy marine parts cheaper than anywhere else
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#40 |
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If they're buying them from QuickSilver directly as opposed to buying them from a wholesaler, they can get GOOD pricing. Probably $45each I'd imagine. Cost from the distributor is $60. Or, they believe in economies of scale. From what I know these are pretty popular with the VW, Audi crowd. I just wanna see how they stack up to my Bosch's. The Boschs are the most expensive, so I'm gonna be pissed if a $60 Merc coil @ ~2/3's the cost does better
![]() Then again the Boschs are TINY! So that has it's own advantage. FWIW I spoke with Paul today. Everything shipped so I should have my new coils/injectors on Monday. I'll snap some pics of all the coils that I have collected thus far.
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-The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. -Angry Motherf*cker Mode ENGAGED- |
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#41 |
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No updates on these being tested?
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#42 |
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Not yet he has been busy doing a complete teardown/rebuild of the entire car. he even missed DGRRX
I think he has been slacking off too much lately. ![]() Last edited by 2gslse; 06-24-2010 at 03:20 PM. |
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#43 |
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Yeah, my ASS... I need to schedule time to take a shit..... lemme put it to you this way, today - well, yesterday - was my "day off" yet I still went into work for a few hours, then away I went to PA. We fixed the 6-spd then I headed to jersey to pick up a new rear-end. Then I had a blow-out on the GWB - yeah - FL blew out @ 65 in the left lane. I hit a pot hole that would require about 27 ground up homeless people to fill, or 2 compacted honda's by the way FUCK YOU AAA AND THE CROOKED ASS RETARDED MOTHERFUCKING NYC TOWING CO'S THAT CAN'T FIND YOU WHEN YOU GIVE THEM A FUCKING MILE MARKER but thank God for 24hr tire shops in the Bronx and non-english speaking mofo's that don't stab/shoot you when you take thier own tools away from them... 5 hours later here I am passing the next 32 minutes before I hop a shower @ 4 to leave for work @ 4:30 on my "day off" Then it's a fabrication side job that has a deadline of Monday monring but the iron works place fucked me by three days so I need to pick up that material, build this fucking thing today then drop the rear subframe, set up some 4.3 gears that should be here today, a few little odds and ends and with any luck I'll be on the dyno next Friday for the base tune. Then the next time I get a "day off" I'll head back to the dyno for some alignment and cornerbalancing and test out the coils. So HOPEFULLY 3 weeks away.... hopefully. I've been so slammed for the last 2.5 months it's retarded.
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-The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. -Angry Motherf*cker Mode ENGAGED- |
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#44 |
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Too bad you can't clone yourself TT.
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-The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. -Angry Motherf*cker Mode ENGAGED- |
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