Fast reacting IAT sensor replaces stock sensor

Smokey · 08-25-2009, 03:53 PM

So I tried to go to the thread on the evil forum and update my post, but I cannot access it anymore....what happened there? I take it the little dispute with Johnathan F caused a ruckus?

I received my sensor and was able to put it in a couple of weeks ago. I'm quite happy with the performance. It was interesting that I installed it the day before I finished up my water injection install. Before the W/I I could do a 2nd thru 3rd gear pull and watch my intake temps go up about 5 degrees Celsius. After W/I they would stay rock solid even thru a 3rd and 4th gear pull. On the highway if I just roll into the boost enough to activate the W/I I can watch the temps go down.

dudemaaan · 08-26-2009, 12:17 PM

They said they deleted it cause it was free advertising and they don't allow it. It's no different then threads on widefoot mounts, hd water injection kits, and a dozen other products that are discussed over there. I was very unhappy about it since everyone was just getting theirs and starting to report back on the results.

Thanks for posting your results over here.

Phoenix7 · 08-26-2009, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudemaaan

They said they deleted it cause it was free advertising and they don't allow it. It's no different then threads on widefoot mounts, hd water injection kits, and a dozen other products that are discussed over there. I was very unhappy about it since everyone was just getting theirs and starting to report back on the results.

Thanks for posting your results over here.

sounds like the new 7club.

I might end up ordering one soon. You still have some left?

dudemaaan · 08-26-2009, 04:18 PM

Yeah i still have some. Let me know when, and i'l get it out to ya.

PortedRotorTuner · 08-28-2009, 05:18 PM

I got mine in! Got it very quickly too. I won't be able to test it until the
spring though.

Thanks!!!

NV02 · 08-28-2009, 06:25 PM

Got mine installed today. A bit of a pain to get to, but I uncovered a bad vacuum leak in the brake booster line in the process. Two birds, one stone. Gotta like that. Haven't driven it yet, but it started up and idled well. And measued the correct air temperature :-)

Dave...

dudemaaan · 08-28-2009, 10:38 PM

Good, glad everyone is getting them quickly. Look forward to hearing everyones results.

DaveW · 09-04-2009, 02:00 PM

I installed the sensor today. The only problems I had were getting my hands/fingers behind/under the UIM to remove the connector from the OE sensor, and to splice the new connector to the harness. I really like the new connector - it seems much easier to connect/disconnect than the OE.

I may be imagining things, but after heat-soaking on purpose to test the effect, I think the engine is now more responsive to throttle than it was with the OE sensor under similar conditions.

Thanks for your help in locating and selling these!

I'll keep you updated if anything interesting happens related to the sensor.

dudemaaan · 09-04-2009, 02:40 PM

I've had a few people say the same thing about better response. Are you on the stock ecu or pfc i cant remember? I would have to look again but i believe at a certain air temp the ecu starts pulling timing, with a faster sensor it would get back to cooler temps sooner and the timing increase could be why people are feeling the increased response. Either way the sensor works way better then stock and is only a good thing as far as the tune is concerned. Thanks for the feedback on it.

DaveW · 09-04-2009, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudemaaan

I've had a few people say the same thing about better response. Are you on the stock ecu or pfc i cant remember? I would have to look again but i believe at a certain air temp the ecu starts pulling timing, with a faster sensor it would get back to cooler temps sooner and the timing increase could be why people are feeling the increased response. Either way the sensor works way better then stock and is only a good thing as far as the tune is concerned. Thanks for the feedback on it.

I have the stock ECU - what you said makes sense.

Dave

DaveW · 09-04-2009, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dudemaaan

They said they deleted it cause it was free advertising and they don't allow it. It's no different then threads on widefoot mounts, hd water injection kits, and a dozen other products that are discussed over there. I was very unhappy about it since everyone was just getting theirs and starting to report back on the results.

Thanks for posting your results over here.

I was wondering how your thread on this lasted as long as it did over there even though, IMO, you were providing a very useful service for all FD owners. If you were just discussing the sensor, but not selling it, I'm sure you would have been OK.

I'm not surprised that it was deleted. Once they made the decision to ban all ads from non-fee-paying entities, they pretty much had to treat everyone the same, no leeway allowed.

Whether or not they should have made that decision, is obviously a very hot topic.

dudemaaan · 09-04-2009, 05:12 PM

Yeah well it started out as a discussion. I was just trying to get one for myself and post the results of what I found. Then after I found it I listed websites where people could find them online, or if a few people wanted I could go through the same bike shop that I did to save people money. I just wanted other people to try it to gain more knowledge on it. I had no idea it would turn into so many people wanting one.

I made sure to do any transactions through PM. I see it as no different then people mentioning chucks notes and then PMing him to purchase the notes. Or the widefoot swaybar mounts thread I saw after my thread was deleted. Whether they like it or not people will bring up links to non vendors. There are lots of parts that venders don't have. Whether I provide people with a way to purchase them or they got the sensor used off ebay it should still be allowed to be discussed.

I think it really all went to hell once that other guy came in and was blatantly advertising. I personally feel there was a difference in what I was doing and what he was doing. But whatever. No good deed goes unpunished. I don't think it was anything personal, but I also don't think everyone or every situation is treated the same. If it was then one would ever go there anymore.

DaveW · 09-04-2009, 06:00 PM

Well, I don't blame you for feeling annoyed. The moderators over there probably started to get complaints from others about why were you allowed to advertise (even though you were probably not making a significant profit), and they weren't allowed to advertise.

In any case, what happened, happened, and there's not much you can do about it. It's not worth the effort to fight it.

Dave

dudemaaan · 09-04-2009, 09:30 PM

Yeah true

Garfinkles Motor Works · 09-04-2009, 09:38 PM

The other forum kicked me off saying I was selling parts, can you believe that .I got my senser ,Chad ordered two . THANKS I will install it soon ,and yes I painted it silver with Fusion plastic paint .My senser is mounted in the elbow injector bung screwed into a nylon plug that I made in the lathe 10 years ago .No heat soak with the old one,this new one should be very quick .

08-25-2009, 03:53 PM	#31
Smokey Long Time Onlooker Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Columbus, Ohio iTrader: (1) Posts: 31 Rep Power: 0	So I tried to go to the thread on the evil forum and update my post, but I cannot access it anymore....what happened there? I take it the little dispute with Johnathan F caused a ruckus? I received my sensor and was able to put it in a couple of weeks ago. I'm quite happy with the performance. It was interesting that I installed it the day before I finished up my water injection install. Before the W/I I could do a 2nd thru 3rd gear pull and watch my intake temps go up about 5 degrees Celsius. After W/I they would stay rock solid even thru a 3rd and 4th gear pull. On the highway if I just roll into the boost enough to activate the W/I I can watch the temps go down. __________________ 93 Touring - AD coilovers, BBK, full exhaust, PFS SMIC, PFC

08-26-2009, 12:17 PM	#32
dudemaaan Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brenham, TX iTrader: (4) Posts: 335 Rep Power: 17	They said they deleted it cause it was free advertising and they don't allow it. It's no different then threads on widefoot mounts, hd water injection kits, and a dozen other products that are discussed over there. I was very unhappy about it since everyone was just getting theirs and starting to report back on the results. Thanks for posting your results over here. __________________ 500+ HP thanks to: Fast reacting IAT sensor thread! Mechanical Pre-turbo Water Injection Thread Dual Stock fuel pumps Thread T2 differential swap! Last edited by dudemaaan; 08-26-2009 at 12:20 PM..

08-26-2009, 04:18 PM	#34
dudemaaan Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brenham, TX iTrader: (4) Posts: 335 Rep Power: 17	Yeah i still have some. Let me know when, and i'l get it out to ya. __________________ 500+ HP thanks to: Fast reacting IAT sensor thread! Mechanical Pre-turbo Water Injection Thread Dual Stock fuel pumps Thread T2 differential swap!

08-28-2009, 05:18 PM	#35
PortedRotorTuner レーサー Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Columbus, Ohio iTrader: (0) Posts: 190 Rep Power: 17	I got mine in! Got it very quickly too. I won't be able to test it until the spring though. Thanks!!! __________________ Thank God For Pistons! How else would we brake! NASA Great Lakes Region TTD #53 Rx7

08-28-2009, 10:38 PM	#37
dudemaaan Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brenham, TX iTrader: (4) Posts: 335 Rep Power: 17	Good, glad everyone is getting them quickly. Look forward to hearing everyones results. __________________ 500+ HP thanks to: Fast reacting IAT sensor thread! Mechanical Pre-turbo Water Injection Thread Dual Stock fuel pumps Thread T2 differential swap!

08-28-2009, 06:25 PM	#36
NV02 Too little time Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Lake Tahoe iTrader: (0) Posts: 2 Rep Power: 0	Got mine installed today. A bit of a pain to get to, but I uncovered a bad vacuum leak in the brake booster line in the process. Two birds, one stone. Gotta like that. Haven't driven it yet, but it started up and idled well. And measued the correct air temperature :-) Dave...

09-04-2009, 02:00 PM	#38
DaveW Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bath, OH iTrader: (0) Posts: 37 Rep Power: 0	I installed the sensor today. The only problems I had were getting my hands/fingers behind/under the UIM to remove the connector from the OE sensor, and to splice the new connector to the harness. I really like the new connector - it seems much easier to connect/disconnect than the OE. I may be imagining things, but after heat-soaking on purpose to test the effect, I think the engine is now more responsive to throttle than it was with the OE sensor under similar conditions. Thanks for your help in locating and selling these! I'll keep you updated if anything interesting happens related to the sensor. __________________ Dave '93 Base VR bought new in March 1992, PFS SMIC & CAI (modified), HKS DP w/ Jet-Hot 2000, RB dual-tip CB, Linearized OE temperature gauge, Dual "Home-Depot" ceramic ball-spring MBC's, Pettit AST

09-04-2009, 02:40 PM	#39
dudemaaan Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brenham, TX iTrader: (4) Posts: 335 Rep Power: 17	I've had a few people say the same thing about better response. Are you on the stock ecu or pfc i cant remember? I would have to look again but i believe at a certain air temp the ecu starts pulling timing, with a faster sensor it would get back to cooler temps sooner and the timing increase could be why people are feeling the increased response. Either way the sensor works way better then stock and is only a good thing as far as the tune is concerned. Thanks for the feedback on it. __________________ 500+ HP thanks to: Fast reacting IAT sensor thread! Mechanical Pre-turbo Water Injection Thread Dual Stock fuel pumps Thread T2 differential swap!

09-04-2009, 05:12 PM	#42
dudemaaan Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brenham, TX iTrader: (4) Posts: 335 Rep Power: 17	Yeah well it started out as a discussion. I was just trying to get one for myself and post the results of what I found. Then after I found it I listed websites where people could find them online, or if a few people wanted I could go through the same bike shop that I did to save people money. I just wanted other people to try it to gain more knowledge on it. I had no idea it would turn into so many people wanting one. I made sure to do any transactions through PM. I see it as no different then people mentioning chucks notes and then PMing him to purchase the notes. Or the widefoot swaybar mounts thread I saw after my thread was deleted. Whether they like it or not people will bring up links to non vendors. There are lots of parts that venders don't have. Whether I provide people with a way to purchase them or they got the sensor used off ebay it should still be allowed to be discussed. I think it really all went to hell once that other guy came in and was blatantly advertising. I personally feel there was a difference in what I was doing and what he was doing. But whatever. No good deed goes unpunished. I don't think it was anything personal, but I also don't think everyone or every situation is treated the same. If it was then one would ever go there anymore. __________________ 500+ HP thanks to: Fast reacting IAT sensor thread! Mechanical Pre-turbo Water Injection Thread Dual Stock fuel pumps Thread T2 differential swap!

09-04-2009, 06:00 PM	#43
DaveW Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Bath, OH iTrader: (0) Posts: 37 Rep Power: 0	Well, I don't blame you for feeling annoyed. The moderators over there probably started to get complaints from others about why were you allowed to advertise (even though you were probably not making a significant profit), and they weren't allowed to advertise. In any case, what happened, happened, and there's not much you can do about it. It's not worth the effort to fight it. Dave

09-04-2009, 09:30 PM	#44
dudemaaan Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Brenham, TX iTrader: (4) Posts: 335 Rep Power: 17	Yeah true __________________ 500+ HP thanks to: Fast reacting IAT sensor thread! Mechanical Pre-turbo Water Injection Thread Dual Stock fuel pumps Thread T2 differential swap!

09-04-2009, 09:38 PM	#45
Garfinkles Motor Works RCC Contributor Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (11) Posts: 535 Rep Power: 17	The other forum kicked me off saying I was selling parts, can you believe that .I got my senser ,Chad ordered two . THANKS I will install it soon ,and yes I painted it silver with Fusion plastic paint .My senser is mounted in the elbow injector bung screwed into a nylon plug that I made in the lathe 10 years ago .No heat soak with the old one,this new one should be very quick .