RX8 Discontinued? - Page 2

My5ABaby · 11-29-2011, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by reddozen

Don't believe a word you hear from Mazda reps at the Nashville auto show... lol. I made them look pretty stupid in front of a group of people last time they were here. I have fun with the nelson Mazda guys from time to time too... it's sad how pathetic Mazda North America is. They know so little about their own cars that it's no wonder they don't sell any more than they do.

The Shinari is essentially the new Mazda 6, so no rotary (VERY unlikely). There won't even be a hint at the next RX car till the new CX5 is announced since the rotary always shares the CX5 chassis. It'll be a couple years till the CX5 is announced.

The CX5 has been announced and it's a crossover. I presume you mean it shares a chassis with the MX5.

Why would you make the Mazda guys look stupid? So an enthusiast knows more about their cars than a salesman... yay? Way to help out the brand... Anyways, it's not like Mazda is unique is having uninformed salesmen. Their job isn't to know the wheelbase, hp, gearing, displacement, etc., that's for the mechanics/engineers. Their job is to know people and how to manipulate them into buying a car. Now we can argue they don't do their job very well there, but they haven't been given much help in the way of styling from Mazda lately.

reddozen · 11-30-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by My5ABaby

The CX5 has been announced and it's a crossover. I presume you mean it shares a chassis with the MX5.

Why would you make the Mazda guys look stupid? So an enthusiast knows more about their cars than a salesman... yay? Way to help out the brand... Anyways, it's not like Mazda is unique is having uninformed salesmen. Their job isn't to know the wheelbase, hp, gearing, displacement, etc., that's for the mechanics/engineers. Their job is to know people and how to manipulate them into buying a car. Now we can argue they don't do their job very well there, but they haven't been given much help in the way of styling from Mazda lately.

Yes, the MX5... mistyped that one...

The guys at an auto show are the face of Mazda... They should know more than the average person about every car in their lineup. That's their job. They're not salesmen in the direct since at a car show. They're selling the brand, sure, but when he doesn't even know what an R3 RX8 is, and his company sells it, that's pretty pathetic. That's like asking for a Mazda Speed 3 and them asking you "what's that?", or trying to show you a normal Mazda 3.

They should be able to spout off trim packages, colors, etc for every car they represent. Pretty basic info.

Mazdabater · 11-29-2011, 01:47 AM

Rotary shares the cx5 chassis? Wtf are you on

Christopher W. · 11-29-2011, 03:38 AM

Until Mazda gets there head out of their asses with those stupid cartoon smile front ends they will only be chic cars.

I am not holding my breath for any company that insists on forcing cartoon cars on the public.

jimstaz · 12-17-2011, 07:24 PM

hopes and dreamz.. we will see in time what happens

Whizbang · 11-29-2011, 05:32 AM

really, i couldnt blame them for giving up in a sense. The rotary hasnt really been profitable since what? The 80s? The final Rx7 had a bad reputation with the public and the new Rx8 faired only slightly better. Especially consdiering that have the Mx-5. Companies do not seem to fair well with more than one "sports car" and the Mx-5 sells many times better. Especially since the MZR is a great engine.

I like Mazda, and ill likely stay within their realm (they have great contingency) but i doubt we will see another rotary car from them. At least anything affordable. Might be like the new GT-R. High priced and rarely sold.

Raksj04 · 11-29-2011, 10:37 AM

I was once told that mazda was going to Supercharge the 8 and release it as the next mazdaspeed car. But that didn't happen, that doesnt mean that they didn't try to R/D it. I was also told that the was going to be a Mazdaspeed 5. But I think the sales of the MS3 are too strong for mazda to stop building that car to build a different Mazdaspeed. I still want Mazda to have an AWD Mazda 3 GTX. They only thing I was told at a Auto show was that the Vette was going to be supercharged, he really didnt tell me. I just said that GM should S/C the Vette like the Cobalt and the look he give me confirmed it.

My5ABaby · 11-29-2011, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Raksj04

I just said that GM should S/C the Vette like the Cobalt and the look he give me confirmed it.

Whizbang · 11-29-2011, 11:03 AM

as in a mazdaspeed mini van 5? not an mx-5, which has been done.

Raksj04 · 11-29-2011, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gravity Fed

as in a mazdaspeed mini van 5? not an mx-5, which has been done.

Yep, as the mini van. I honesty would like the next MS MX-5 have the 16X. But my doubts are really really high. Unless the 16X with the rumor laser igition system will have good emissions, mpg, and power. Then I think it may happen. I wonder how well a compund turbo setup would work in a car. That is suppost to have 50% TE.

Pete_89T2 · 11-30-2011, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravity Fed

as in a mazdaspeed mini van 5? not an mx-5, which has been done.

I recall an old Car & Driver project car article where they built a "Mazdaspeed-5" minivan. Started with a new Mazda5 van, and transplanted the powertrain from a wrecked MS3.

My5ABaby · 11-30-2011, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Pete_89T2

I recall an old Car & Driver project car article where they built a "Mazdaspeed-5" minivan. Started with a new Mazda5 van, and transplanted the powertrain from a wrecked MS3.

I've got half wood from that. I would drive the shit out of that.

TypeSL_T · 11-29-2011, 11:40 AM

Supercharged Vette? You mean like the ZR1? I am really confused by a lot of that post.

James

Raksj04 · 11-29-2011, 12:21 PM

yes as the ZR-1, this was like a 2006 auto show or about that time. And Yes I have the habit of writing in a confusing matter.

Raksj04 · 11-29-2011, 10:55 PM

I have heard that when ford had control over mazda, ford bean counters wanted mazda to kill the Rotary engine, and they refused to give up on it. I would really like to see mazda sell a hard top Mx-5 that I can fit in with a rotary engine. I think as long as it was around 25k starting, it would sell. But this time manual trans only.

11-29-2011, 05:32 AM	#6
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 21	really, i couldnt blame them for giving up in a sense. The rotary hasnt really been profitable since what? The 80s? The final Rx7 had a bad reputation with the public and the new Rx8 faired only slightly better. Especially consdiering that have the Mx-5. Companies do not seem to fair well with more than one "sports car" and the Mx-5 sells many times better. Especially since the MZR is a great engine. I like Mazda, and ill likely stay within their realm (they have great contingency) but i doubt we will see another rotary car from them. At least anything affordable. Might be like the new GT-R. High priced and rarely sold. __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook

11-29-2011, 11:03 AM	#9
Whizbang Respecognize! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Δx = ħ/2Δp Posts: 3,190 Rep Power: 21	as in a mazdaspeed mini van 5? not an mx-5, which has been done. __________________ For current updates and event coverage check out Follow on Twitter! @WhizbangRally Whizbang Rally's Webpage \| Facebook

11-29-2011, 11:40 AM	#13
TypeSL_T Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Murfreesboro Posts: 96 Rep Power: 18	Supercharged Vette? You mean like the ZR1? I am really confused by a lot of that post. James __________________ smf #11

11-29-2011, 01:47 AM	#3
Mazdabater FC3S Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Townsville, QLD, AUS Posts: 326 Rep Power: 16	Rotary shares the cx5 chassis? Wtf are you on

11-29-2011, 03:38 AM	#4
Christopher W. Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 98 Rep Power: 18	Until Mazda gets there head out of their asses with those stupid cartoon smile front ends they will only be chic cars. I am not holding my breath for any company that insists on forcing cartoon cars on the public.

12-17-2011, 07:24 PM	#5
jimstaz Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: clarksville, tn Posts: 87 Rep Power: 15	hopes and dreamz.. we will see in time what happens

11-29-2011, 10:37 AM	#7
Raksj04 I have Ultra power in me. Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 457 Rep Power: 14	I was once told that mazda was going to Supercharge the 8 and release it as the next mazdaspeed car. But that didn't happen, that doesnt mean that they didn't try to R/D it. I was also told that the was going to be a Mazdaspeed 5. But I think the sales of the MS3 are too strong for mazda to stop building that car to build a different Mazdaspeed. I still want Mazda to have an AWD Mazda 3 GTX. They only thing I was told at a Auto show was that the Vette was going to be supercharged, he really didnt tell me. I just said that GM should S/C the Vette like the Cobalt and the look he give me confirmed it.

11-29-2011, 12:21 PM	#14
Raksj04 I have Ultra power in me. Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 457 Rep Power: 14	yes as the ZR-1, this was like a 2006 auto show or about that time. And Yes I have the habit of writing in a confusing matter.

11-29-2011, 10:55 PM	#15
Raksj04 I have Ultra power in me. Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 457 Rep Power: 14	I have heard that when ford had control over mazda, ford bean counters wanted mazda to kill the Rotary engine, and they refused to give up on it. I would really like to see mazda sell a hard top Mx-5 that I can fit in with a rotary engine. I think as long as it was around 25k starting, it would sell. But this time manual trans only.