FS.2000cc Bosch injectors - Page 2

2a_ron · 03-28-2011, 12:27 PM

Did you match them static or dynamic and with what kind of equipment to show less than 1% total spread? I know first hand that ID dynamically tests and matches every single injector that comes out of their facility. So you're saying you get them for $60 then sell them for $180? Is a static flow test into a graduated cylinder really worth the $120 you charge?

From T1's site:

"There are lots of rumors floating around (put out there by other guys that sell injectors) that other people have the same injectors as our ID2000, they're just not matched by the same process. This is correct, except the rest of the rumor is that the consistency from Bosch is so good that our dynamic matching process doesn't have any benefit. Unfortunately, this is far from the truth.

This is a deviation vs. pulsewidth chart for every 10th injector out of a batch. You can see that while static flow variance is pretty good, there is quite a spread at 2msec pulsewidth, where much of the life of the injector is spent and where you really see and feel a difference from cylinder to cylinder variations. About a 2% spread at static flow (which is where most people have the ability to test halfway accurately) and as much as a 13% spread at 2msec. Do you think a 13% variance from cylinder to cylinder at idle and part throttle will make a difference in how a car runs?

Here's a matched set of 6. It looks like there are only 4 lines on the graph, but there are actually 6, some are just so similar they pretty much overlay. "

fullfunctioneng · 03-28-2011, 03:48 PM

Wow that chart says it all!

I would say an dynamically matched set from ID is well worth the money. Knowing you are getting a quality matched set from someone that knows what they are doing is a great piece of mind, not to mention I hate when people rip off others' hard work.

misterstyx69 · 11-25-2011, 11:45 PM

these still available?..lmk,I'd like a set.
Email me @ misterstyx69@hotmail.com Thanks.

To_Slow · 11-27-2011, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullfunctioneng

Wow that chart says it all!

I would say an dynamically matched set from ID is well worth the money. Knowing you are getting a quality matched set from someone that knows what they are doing is a great piece of mind, not to mention I hate when people rip off others' hard work.

To_Slow · 11-27-2011, 08:06 AM

I don't have any more in stock or will i have them again.

Don't waist your time sending me messages, i don't have any!!!...

03-28-2011, 12:27 PM	#16
2a_ron The Newbie Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 10 Rep Power: 0	Did you match them static or dynamic and with what kind of equipment to show less than 1% total spread? I know first hand that ID dynamically tests and matches every single injector that comes out of their facility. So you're saying you get them for $60 then sell them for $180? Is a static flow test into a graduated cylinder really worth the $120 you charge? From T1's site: "There are lots of rumors floating around (put out there by other guys that sell injectors) that other people have the same injectors as our ID2000, they're just not matched by the same process. This is correct, except the rest of the rumor is that the consistency from Bosch is so good that our dynamic matching process doesn't have any benefit. Unfortunately, this is far from the truth. This is a deviation vs. pulsewidth chart for every 10th injector out of a batch. You can see that while static flow variance is pretty good, there is quite a spread at 2msec pulsewidth, where much of the life of the injector is spent and where you really see and feel a difference from cylinder to cylinder variations. About a 2% spread at static flow (which is where most people have the ability to test halfway accurately) and as much as a 13% spread at 2msec. Do you think a 13% variance from cylinder to cylinder at idle and part throttle will make a difference in how a car runs? Here's a matched set of 6. It looks like there are only 4 lines on the graph, but there are actually 6, some are just so similar they pretty much overlay. " Last edited by 2a_ron; 03-28-2011 at 12:39 PM.

03-28-2011, 03:48 PM	#17
fullfunctioneng Triggers R Us Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Phoenix Posts: 55 Rep Power: 15	Wow that chart says it all! I would say an dynamically matched set from ID is well worth the money. Knowing you are getting a quality matched set from someone that knows what they are doing is a great piece of mind, not to mention I hate when people rip off others' hard work. __________________ www.FullFunctionEng.com S4, S5, and 13B-RE trigger kits now available! Click Here! FD trigger kits now available! Click Here!

11-27-2011, 08:06 AM	#20
To_Slow Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Shelby Twp MI. Posts: 315 Rep Power: 18	I don't have any more in stock or will i have them again. Don't waist your time sending me messages, i don't have any!!!... __________________ My link

11-25-2011, 11:45 PM	#18
misterstyx69 .drives like MrMagoo! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Smiths Falls,Ontario Posts: 198 Rep Power: 18	these still available?..lmk,I'd like a set. Email me @ misterstyx69@hotmail.com Thanks.