Crimping vs. Soldering

Dannobre · 01-07-2011, 02:58 PM

Good crimping is superior to soldering......soldering is better than bad crimping in almost every way.....

Moral of the story is buy a proper crimp tool and the correct dies for you application...or it will fail

MaczPayne · 01-07-2011, 04:28 PM

I seem to remember a picture floating around where a guy hung several anchors on a piece of wire crimped to another.

My5ABaby · 01-07-2011, 04:33 PM

http://www.sailnet.com/forums/gear-m...vs-solder.html

***TitaniumTT*** · 01-07-2011, 05:07 PM

I spy an aluminum Danforth anchor in there

Still probably about 80lbs

hades · 01-07-2011, 06:06 PM

similar to my thread in the 3rd gen section.

I don't generally go to the 2nd gen section, but saw this thread. Lots of good information. Is there a way we can have a common 'how to' section or put this in the fab section?

I just don't want to miss good information that is not gen specific....maybe i'll just have to swing by teh 2nd gen section more

rxspeed7 · 01-07-2011, 06:09 PM

Definetly a crimp>solder connection. I work for Lockheed Martin soo thankfully i have full access to just about every type of DMC crimper and luggers. Once a month our crimp tools get re-calibrated and tested to ensure that each crimp(varies with awg) can hold at least 50ft.lbs of pulling force. For any wiring that will be in a harsh enviroment crimping a connection is your best bet, with a soldered connection you will have solder wick up into the wire, and over time from vibe,stress,pulling and thermal stress you will get a fatigued solder joint that will crack and break. With a crimped connection you dont have to worry about this too much

I'm actually in the process of redoing all the wiring in my car with amphenol and various other mil style connections and sleeving. i will post pics of the finished product.

Zack.

***TitaniumTT*** · 01-07-2011, 07:11 PM

No Zach, you will post pics now, and lots of them, or I will ban you after a mail a package of anthrax and poisonous spiders to your house

***TitaniumTT*** · 01-07-2011, 07:11 PM

Jeff's right, this belongs in a different section. I'll move it shortly

rxspeed7 · 01-07-2011, 10:17 PM

haha, You getting jealous Brian?.... I'll snap some photos tomm. Pretty much ebay is the place to get amphenol and amp style circular mil spec connectors and pins.

Zack.

***TitaniumTT*** · 01-07-2011, 10:35 PM

Nope, already did all the mil-spec wiring that needs to be done on my FC. Itching to get started with it on the FD though and always interested to see others top quality wiring work.... gives me motivation to DO IT BETTER THAN YOU MWWAAHAAHAHAAHA!!!!!!

rxspeed7 · 01-07-2011, 11:08 PM

Haha sounds good man.

Zack

vex · 01-07-2011, 11:36 PM

I hate working with some people in Lockheed Martin (contract work). I think I'm going to finally order DMC crimp and turret. Not to mention get the cannon plugs. Sigh... more money, less time.

rxspeed7 · 01-08-2011, 08:59 AM

Haha i feel you, we have a lot of young gunho engineers that don't know there ass from there head. It really aggrevates me to see how they treat some of the operators and other engineers. What kind of contract work do you do for Lockheed?

vex · 01-08-2011, 01:18 PM

Rocket Propulsion. Oh the stories we could tell...

rxspeed7 · 01-08-2011, 03:36 PM

haha oh yes!!

Zack

01-07-2011, 04:28 PM	#17
MaczPayne Bah! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Riverside, SoCal iTrader: (1) Posts: 442 Rep Power: 17	I seem to remember a picture floating around where a guy hung several anchors on a piece of wire crimped to another. __________________ Johnson TA FC in the works!

01-07-2011, 04:33 PM	#18
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01-07-2011, 05:07 PM	#19
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01-07-2011, 06:06 PM	#20
hades Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Freedom Land iTrader: (0) Posts: 316 Rep Power: 17	similar to my thread in the 3rd gen section. I don't generally go to the 2nd gen section, but saw this thread. Lots of good information. Is there a way we can have a common 'how to' section or put this in the fab section? I just don't want to miss good information that is not gen specific....maybe i'll just have to swing by teh 2nd gen section more __________________ This is going to tear

01-07-2011, 07:11 PM	#22
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	No Zach, you will post pics now, and lots of them, or I will ban you after a mail a package of anthrax and poisonous spiders to your house __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

01-07-2011, 02:58 PM	#16
Dannobre Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Oct 2008 iTrader: (0) Posts: 87 Rep Power: 17	Good crimping is superior to soldering......soldering is better than bad crimping in almost every way..... Moral of the story is buy a proper crimp tool and the correct dies for you application...or it will fail

01-07-2011, 10:35 PM	#25
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Nope, already did all the mil-spec wiring that needs to be done on my FC. Itching to get started with it on the FD though and always interested to see others top quality wiring work.... gives me motivation to DO IT BETTER THAN YOU MWWAAHAAHAHAAHA!!!!!! __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

01-07-2011, 11:36 PM	#27
vex RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Influx. iTrader: (6) Posts: 2,113 Rep Power: 19	I hate working with some people in Lockheed Martin (contract work). I think I'm going to finally order DMC crimp and turret. Not to mention get the cannon plugs. Sigh... more money, less time. __________________ The Official FC Radiator Thread My Project Thread: Cerberus CCVT Virginia Rotary Group

01-08-2011, 01:18 PM	#29
vex RCC Loves Me Not You Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Influx. iTrader: (6) Posts: 2,113 Rep Power: 19	Rocket Propulsion. Oh the stories we could tell... __________________ The Official FC Radiator Thread My Project Thread: Cerberus CCVT Virginia Rotary Group