20B GT35R FC3S - hIGGI - REcycling project

hIGGI · 04-06-2011, 02:48 AM

Ok, got bit smarter overnight thanks to Hitman and SteveKan.

Logged values are just primary injectors, which are maxing out before hitting staging bar and due to primary hold mode, they hold at whichever duty cycle they were, before secondaries kicked in....

Solution - lean it out in primary injectors area, bigger value in disenrichment or moving staging bar from 1,5psi to 0psi........

In next log i will add as well secondary injectors duty cycle and injection time....

To_Slow · 04-06-2011, 08:33 AM

It came together pretty good! Nice progress....

My5ABaby · 04-06-2011, 08:59 AM

This is one of the most beautifully ghetto builds I've ever seen.

Crazydevil · 04-10-2011, 09:50 PM

Higgi that is awesome. I wish I was still in Germany to see it. That Gold FC I bought off you awhile ago was great. I sold it to my buddy and bought a FD. I still miss that FC, I never had any problems with that car.

hIGGI · 04-11-2011, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazydevil

Higgi that is awesome. I wish I was still in Germany to see it. That Gold FC I bought off you awhile ago was great. I sold it to my buddy and bought a FD. I still miss that FC, I never had any problems with that car.

Glad to hear you enjoyed it and still enjoy rotaries

I have found another TII for Josh couple months ago, he is again in Germany

hIGGI · 04-11-2011, 01:55 AM

I have taken car to drift training and testing event on friday, had great time there and here are some overviews.

I drove car to and from event (150km each way) and made another 200km on the track.

First tests week ago in warmer (20C) day showed EWP should run at constant full speed, no need to regulate it. However, friday morning when i took of towards track, temperature was around 5C and whole trip to the track (no boosting, but high speed) my temperatures were too low in 60-70C range and i definately should have taken controller with me.

Return trip was in afternoon, warmer (around 15C) and coolant temps without controller have not dropped under 75C and aweraged at 83C. My efan starts at 90C, shuts off at 85C and highest temps on the way back i have seen were 91C.

On the track data for 30min run

Coolant lowest 84C, highest 96C, awerage 86C.
Oil temps in 80C-100C range
Intake air temps highest 37C, awerage 34C

I was boosting only to wastegate spring which is 8 psi, but wastegate is leaking (exhaust manifold too

and does not hold the pressure in higher rpm's.....

I probably might get coolant temps more stable with controller and controlling efan with Haltech PWM instead of On/Off switch, but its not that bad already

Overall good feeling from first drifts with the car, still a lot of things to tweak and fix, but EWP works and for summer / racing i wont need the controller, but for trips to track i should connect it.

Hotter days and smaller track will tell us more...

Pics and videos already somewhere in Facebook, hopefully will have some linkable here to forum.

RETed · 04-11-2011, 04:26 AM

Vids look good.
Looks like you're carrying a lot of speed through the high speed curves.
The car is making a lot of smoke.
Increased torque makes it easier now?

-Ted

hIGGI · 04-11-2011, 04:40 AM

Torque is very noticable, and as well turbo now spools at 3000 rpm instead of 4000 with 13B....

Tune is very rich but overall it feels quite good

hIGGI · 04-11-2011, 01:11 PM

Ian · 04-11-2011, 07:05 PM

Dam higgi. NICE!

diabolical1 · 04-12-2011, 03:11 AM

nice.

Crazydevil · 04-15-2011, 07:47 PM

Josh told me he was trying to get another car off you. Car looks Great. Is that your same car from before did you finally paint it?

hIGGI · 04-16-2011, 01:34 AM

Yes, Josh got new car from me last year and no, i still have not painted mine and it really needs it, but there are more important expenses and no cash for paint left

Barry Bordes · 04-20-2011, 11:20 AM

hiGGi, did you replace those 20b exhaust sleeves with 13b open ones?

I really like your innovative thinking. You build with what you have. Well done!
Barry

hIGGI · 04-20-2011, 01:24 PM

Yes, i have used 13B FD sleeves.

Should we call my innovative thinking just outcome of worlds financial crisis? With this angle, we can as well come to conlusion that world needs a lot worse crisis for people to start thinking...

04-06-2011, 08:33 AM	#17
To_Slow Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Shelby Twp MI. iTrader: (1) Posts: 315 Rep Power: 17	It came together pretty good! Nice progress.... __________________ My link

04-06-2011, 08:59 AM	#18
My5ABaby Sigh..... Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Murfreesboro, TN iTrader: (6) Posts: 2,377 Rep Power: 19	This is one of the most beautifully ghetto builds I've ever seen. __________________ 1986 Sport: 132k miles, 5A (Sapphire Blue Metallic), Tokico Blues, Racing Beat Springs, Custom LED tailights (only S4 LED tails in the world), SSR Mark II, Racing Beat exhaust, S5 black interior, Rotary Resurrection rebuild at 120k miles Community Service Manual RotorWiki "Imagination costs nothing; we could build square locomotives or fly to Mars" - Felix Wankel Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, but today is a gift. That is why it is called the "present."

04-11-2011, 07:05 PM	#25
Ian REIAN Join Date: Feb 2008 iTrader: (0) Posts: 112 Rep Power: 17	Dam higgi. NICE! __________________ 1989 Turbo II. Track Car 1988 10thAE. Garage Queen 400+rwhp

04-06-2011, 02:48 AM	#16
hIGGI Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Czech Republic iTrader: (0) Posts: 78 Rep Power: 17	Ok, got bit smarter overnight thanks to Hitman and SteveKan. Logged values are just primary injectors, which are maxing out before hitting staging bar and due to primary hold mode, they hold at whichever duty cycle they were, before secondaries kicked in.... Solution - lean it out in primary injectors area, bigger value in disenrichment or moving staging bar from 1,5psi to 0psi........ In next log i will add as well secondary injectors duty cycle and injection time....

04-10-2011, 09:50 PM	#19
Crazydevil The Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 iTrader: (0) Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Higgi that is awesome. I wish I was still in Germany to see it. That Gold FC I bought off you awhile ago was great. I sold it to my buddy and bought a FD. I still miss that FC, I never had any problems with that car.

04-11-2011, 01:55 AM	#21
hIGGI Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Czech Republic iTrader: (0) Posts: 78 Rep Power: 17	I have taken car to drift training and testing event on friday, had great time there and here are some overviews. I drove car to and from event (150km each way) and made another 200km on the track. First tests week ago in warmer (20C) day showed EWP should run at constant full speed, no need to regulate it. However, friday morning when i took of towards track, temperature was around 5C and whole trip to the track (no boosting, but high speed) my temperatures were too low in 60-70C range and i definately should have taken controller with me. Return trip was in afternoon, warmer (around 15C) and coolant temps without controller have not dropped under 75C and aweraged at 83C. My efan starts at 90C, shuts off at 85C and highest temps on the way back i have seen were 91C. On the track data for 30min run Coolant lowest 84C, highest 96C, awerage 86C. Oil temps in 80C-100C range Intake air temps highest 37C, awerage 34C I was boosting only to wastegate spring which is 8 psi, but wastegate is leaking (exhaust manifold too and does not hold the pressure in higher rpm's..... I probably might get coolant temps more stable with controller and controlling efan with Haltech PWM instead of On/Off switch, but its not that bad already Overall good feeling from first drifts with the car, still a lot of things to tweak and fix, but EWP works and for summer / racing i wont need the controller, but for trips to track i should connect it. Hotter days and smaller track will tell us more... Pics and videos already somewhere in Facebook, hopefully will have some linkable here to forum.

04-11-2011, 04:40 AM	#23
hIGGI Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Czech Republic iTrader: (0) Posts: 78 Rep Power: 17	Torque is very noticable, and as well turbo now spools at 3000 rpm instead of 4000 with 13B.... Tune is very rich but overall it feels quite good

04-11-2011, 01:11 PM	#24
hIGGI Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Czech Republic iTrader: (0) Posts: 78 Rep Power: 17

04-15-2011, 07:47 PM	#27
Crazydevil The Newbie Join Date: Mar 2011 iTrader: (0) Posts: 4 Rep Power: 0	Josh told me he was trying to get another car off you. Car looks Great. Is that your same car from before did you finally paint it?

04-16-2011, 01:34 AM	#28
hIGGI Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Czech Republic iTrader: (0) Posts: 78 Rep Power: 17	Yes, Josh got new car from me last year and no, i still have not painted mine and it really needs it, but there are more important expenses and no cash for paint left

04-20-2011, 11:20 AM	#29
Barry Bordes Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Slidell, LA iTrader: (0) Posts: 191 Rep Power: 17	hiGGi, did you replace those 20b exhaust sleeves with 13b open ones? I really like your innovative thinking. You build with what you have. Well done! Barry

04-20-2011, 01:24 PM	#30
hIGGI Rotary Fan in Training Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Czech Republic iTrader: (0) Posts: 78 Rep Power: 17	Yes, i have used 13B FD sleeves. Should we call my innovative thinking just outcome of worlds financial crisis? With this angle, we can as well come to conlusion that world needs a lot worse crisis for people to start thinking...