It looked so simple at first! - Page 17

GySgtFrank · 06-29-2014, 11:41 PM

After fighting with my front subframe all weekend, I give up. (on the subframe, not the car

) Trying to adapt the manufacturer's frame to the car is a PITA. It was none too great from the get go. Between fixing the original poor fitment and my modifications it's completely screwed. Time to throw that one out and build my own damn subframe from scratch. What's a little more fabrication?

chibikougan · 06-30-2014, 12:43 AM

Do it! Get to the choppa!

GySgtFrank · 06-30-2014, 01:02 AM

Tomorrow. My frustration level maxed out. Every time I changed one thing, the angles and placement elsewhere would change. Finished with chasing problems around in a circle. We'll just start over and hopefully do it right this time.

chibikougan · 06-30-2014, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by GySgtFrank

Tomorrow. My frustration level maxed out. Every time I changed one thing, the angles and placement elsewhere would change. Finished with chasing problems around in a circle. We'll just start over and hopefully do it right this time.

Stare at it a lot then dream the solutuion.

Pete_89T2 · 06-30-2014, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by chibikougan

Stare at it a lot then dream the solution.

Stare at it while drinking... Alcohol, the lubricant of creativity

GySgtFrank · 06-30-2014, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete_89T2

Stare at it while drinking... Alcohol, the lubricant of creativity

If you do too much of that your nuts will fall off.

chibikougan · 06-30-2014, 11:07 PM

Or nut as it would seem.

GySgtFrank · 07-05-2014, 02:05 PM

For those interested in exactly what idiotic plan I have in mind to build a new lower subframe.

lower subframe version 2.0 by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

I set up a jig of the frame rails on my welding bench and did a solid tack on 1/4" thick 1.5" angle for the base. I'm using schedule 40 pipe (.2" thick) and cutting out 1/4" rounds with the proper 5/8" center holes to make up the A arm mounts. I had to have something to keep the arms in alignment as I moved it around to get the proper inward and downward angles. Welded the first one down and am building a front support piece from 3/16" plate. Then I have to figure out how to mirror all the angles and distances on the other side. Once both sides are in and correct, I will weld in the cross brace and studs to support the steering rack. I figure I can cut away the unneeded excess when everything is solid. That's the plan anyway.

supports in and boxed by GySgtFrank, on Flickr

supports in and boxed.

***TitaniumTT*** · 07-07-2014, 11:39 AM

crazy ass..... getting crazier the older you get..... and better with all the fab shit too....... Looks really good.. Especially loving the ride height... looks spot on homer

GySgtFrank · 07-07-2014, 12:25 PM

Thanks Brian. Working away at it. Unfortunately I seem to keep finding things that bother me enough to go in and redo it. My father claims I'll be 95 and still puttering around trying to get it to done.

***TitaniumTT*** · 07-07-2014, 01:12 PM

Probably.... I've dubbed it the Curse of the Craftsman... I'll never be done with ANY of my cars because I'll always find better, stronger, lighter, faster, cleaner ways to do things...... Just make it DRIVEABLE!!!!

GySgtFrank · 07-07-2014, 02:03 PM

That bit of advice would be a lot more believable coming from somebody else.

***TitaniumTT*** · 07-07-2014, 02:41 PM

Really? I've got more running rotaries than anyone in BAW to my knowledge.... and a few BAW members rotaries are under my cock.... I mean knife....

This is why living in an area that gets so much snow is a good thing.... give you a few months to get yer shit together...

GySgtFrank · 07-07-2014, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TitaniumTT

Really? I've got more running rotaries than anyone in BAW to my knowledge.... and a few BAW members rotaries are under my cock.... I mean knife....

This is why living in an area that gets so much snow is a good thing.... give you a few months to get yer shit together...

hmmm. You may be the only one in BAW with a running rotary. Except AJ and Dan'l who don't count. AJ because he never gets anything done beyond the stock setup and Dan'l because he can't actually drive the thing.

JL1RX7 · 07-07-2014, 08:53 PM

You have more than three? Mine always run. Replacing the A/C on the blue one so Mom will drive it.

06-29-2014, 11:41 PM	#1
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,012 Rep Power: 16	After fighting with my front subframe all weekend, I give up. (on the subframe, not the car ) Trying to adapt the manufacturer's frame to the car is a PITA. It was none too great from the get go. Between fixing the original poor fitment and my modifications it's completely screwed. Time to throw that one out and build my own damn subframe from scratch. What's a little more fabrication? __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

06-30-2014, 01:02 AM	#3
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,012 Rep Power: 16	Tomorrow. My frustration level maxed out. Every time I changed one thing, the angles and placement elsewhere would change. Finished with chasing problems around in a circle. We'll just start over and hopefully do it right this time. __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

07-05-2014, 02:05 PM	#8
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,012 Rep Power: 16	For those interested in exactly what idiotic plan I have in mind to build a new lower subframe. lower subframe version 2.0 by GySgtFrank, on Flickr I set up a jig of the frame rails on my welding bench and did a solid tack on 1/4" thick 1.5" angle for the base. I'm using schedule 40 pipe (.2" thick) and cutting out 1/4" rounds with the proper 5/8" center holes to make up the A arm mounts. I had to have something to keep the arms in alignment as I moved it around to get the proper inward and downward angles. Welded the first one down and am building a front support piece from 3/16" plate. Then I have to figure out how to mirror all the angles and distances on the other side. Once both sides are in and correct, I will weld in the cross brace and studs to support the steering rack. I figure I can cut away the unneeded excess when everything is solid. That's the plan anyway. supports in and boxed by GySgtFrank, on Flickr supports in and boxed. __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585 Last edited by GySgtFrank; 07-12-2014 at 11:53 AM. Reason: 3/16ths plate not 3/8th you big dummy

07-07-2014, 11:39 AM	#9
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	crazy ass..... getting crazier the older you get..... and better with all the fab shit too....... Looks really good.. Especially loving the ride height... looks spot on homer __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

07-07-2014, 12:25 PM	#10
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,012 Rep Power: 16	Thanks Brian. Working away at it. Unfortunately I seem to keep finding things that bother me enough to go in and redo it. My father claims I'll be 95 and still puttering around trying to get it to done. __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

07-07-2014, 01:12 PM	#11
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Probably.... I've dubbed it the Curse of the Craftsman... I'll never be done with ANY of my cars because I'll always find better, stronger, lighter, faster, cleaner ways to do things...... Just make it DRIVEABLE!!!! __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

07-07-2014, 02:03 PM	#12
GySgtFrank Professional Stick Poker Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Stafford, Ks. Posts: 1,012 Rep Power: 16	That bit of advice would be a lot more believable coming from somebody else. __________________ 1988 N/A SE 2+2, dead stock and staying that way. 1979 SA22C stock? Not so much. http://rotarycarclub.com/rotary_foru...ad.php?t=15585

07-07-2014, 02:41 PM	#13
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Really? I've got more running rotaries than anyone in BAW to my knowledge.... and a few BAW members rotaries are under my cock.... I mean knife.... This is why living in an area that gets so much snow is a good thing.... give you a few months to get yer shit together... __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

07-07-2014, 08:53 PM	#15
JL1RX7 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Front Royal, VA Posts: 487 Rep Power: 18	You have more than three? Mine always run. Replacing the A/C on the blue one so Mom will drive it.