Auto s5 belts to manual s4 belts

Rotary#10 · 08-31-2009, 05:35 PM

Whats your option on this swap ? I know its all factory equipment. I my auto belts work and everything I just not into them. I like the manual feeling. I have a blue set with the full interior from a S4. Now my friend has a pair of manual s5 belts from a vert that are black. So what your take blue or black manual belts ?

Phoenix7 · 08-31-2009, 05:44 PM

TAKE THE BLACK!!! If you don't then pick them up FOR me and I'll pay you when I see you this weekend.

Seriously, manual belts are the way to go, no motors, no getting stuck, no cables getting pulled and no dealing with Mazda if belts break and they don't wanna fix it.

Rotary#10 · 08-31-2009, 08:22 PM

folks are tell me that vert belts won't fit in a couple. wtf i don't think that true though. they look the same.

Phoenix7 · 08-31-2009, 09:33 PM

hmmm, possibly, the mounting point is different in the vert....I'll tell you in a bit, gonna be at my friend's, I'll check out his vert.

NoDOHC · 08-31-2009, 10:49 PM

Manual belts are far better (lower center of gravity too without all that weight hanging over your head...) I think Mazda did the auto belts to make unsuspecting drivers think that they were about to be decapitated by the belts (I feel like that every time I get in my '91).

Actually I think they did it to keep from having to install air bags (some passive restraint requirement or something).

What color is your interior? If it is blue, stick with blue, if black, how will you replace the "A" pillar trim?

Rotary#10 · 08-31-2009, 10:53 PM

my interior is black but my seats have faded to blue or they orginally blue its hard to tell. I got the pair of s4 a-pillars + interior paint thats black + time and energy = black interior a - pilliars.

Rx-7fetish · 09-15-2009, 09:33 PM

Dont know about vert belts in a coupe car, but a buddy of mine bought a coupe belt from me and put it in a vert. I dont see why it wouldnt work the other way around

lt1_fd3s · 09-16-2009, 06:32 AM

my driver's side auto just died on me last week. i'm planning to tackle this task myself here soon. hopefully i'll remember to take pictures and post about it... neat little how-to of what i do...

Max777 · 09-16-2009, 04:22 PM

Well, shit I got a gray manual belts for sale, if anyone here wants them...

Turbo II · 09-16-2009, 05:06 PM

As long as Mazda keeps fixing them for free for me I'll stay with the auto belts on the turbo. I am curious how you'll mount them in the car, not that familiar with the S4 coupe interior. I do know my Vert belt is always in the way since it never retracts like it's suppose to when you loosen or undo it, guess I should fix that.

Raleighrx7 · 09-23-2009, 09:54 PM

Why not just install some race seats and harnesses? They are much more comfortable, but a hassle to put on everytime, but you sure feel safe in them!

BigIslandSevens · 09-29-2009, 08:26 PM

^^^Because a harness without a HANS type device is asking for a cranial injury like Earhardt's. Same rational for having full cages in street cars. Not a good idea.

I swapped the FC over to manual and all it took was time, interior paint and about 15 bucks for all the trim panels, belts and hardware from Pull apart.

Rotary#10 · 09-30-2009, 01:23 AM

i picked up some vert belts and the assembly today along with some other parts I needed.

Rotary#10 · 10-08-2009, 12:35 PM

lol why I picked up a friend monday night and she got out of the car and the belt got stuck after she closed the door in the middle of the rail on the door. haha, then the next morning i opened the door and it worked with no problems. hehe I still swaped them over in about 3hrs.

Phoenix7 · 10-08-2009, 04:04 PM

ha, let me know, like I told you last time, the vert's mounting pointss are lower than the coupes but it should still bolt on.

08-31-2009, 08:22 PM	#3
Rotary#10 Rotorhead Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: "the town " Oakland iTrader: (1) Posts: 219 Rep Power: 17	folks are tell me that vert belts won't fit in a couple. wtf i don't think that true though. they look the same. __________________ Currently running: 90 GTUs converted to S5 TurboII. Track car. 90 N/A GTUs.. Running project car 89 N/A GTUs in Black #2 10/6/18 Blown coolant seal undergoing rebuild and restomod.

08-31-2009, 10:49 PM	#5
NoDOHC The quest for more torque Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Sheboygan, Wisconsin iTrader: (1) Posts: 855 Rep Power: 17	Manual belts are far better (lower center of gravity too without all that weight hanging over your head...) I think Mazda did the auto belts to make unsuspecting drivers think that they were about to be decapitated by the belts (I feel like that every time I get in my '91). Actually I think they did it to keep from having to install air bags (some passive restraint requirement or something). What color is your interior? If it is blue, stick with blue, if black, how will you replace the "A" pillar trim? __________________ 1986 GXL ('87 4-port NA - Haltech E8, LS2 Coils. Defined Autoworks Headers, Dual 2.5" Exhaust (Dual Superflow, dBX mufflers) 1991 Coupe (KYB AGX Shocks, Eibach lowering springs, RB exhaust, Stock and Automatic)

08-31-2009, 10:53 PM	#6
Rotary#10 Rotorhead Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: "the town " Oakland iTrader: (1) Posts: 219 Rep Power: 17	my interior is black but my seats have faded to blue or they orginally blue its hard to tell. I got the pair of s4 a-pillars + interior paint thats black + time and energy = black interior a - pilliars. __________________ Currently running: 90 GTUs converted to S5 TurboII. Track car. 90 N/A GTUs.. Running project car 89 N/A GTUs in Black #2 10/6/18 Blown coolant seal undergoing rebuild and restomod.

09-16-2009, 06:32 AM	#8
lt1_fd3s WNC Tour Guide Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: WNC iTrader: (3) Posts: 780 Rep Power: 17	my driver's side auto just died on me last week. i'm planning to tackle this task myself here soon. hopefully i'll remember to take pictures and post about it... neat little how-to of what i do... __________________ WNC Tour Guide - Including the Tail of the Dragon - PM for details

09-16-2009, 04:22 PM	#9
Max777 Pirate Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Central IL iTrader: (5) Posts: 1,323 Rep Power: 18	Well, shit I got a gray manual belts for sale, if anyone here wants them... __________________ Rotaries:They are NOT that complicated!

08-31-2009, 05:35 PM	#1
Rotary#10 Rotorhead Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: "the town " Oakland iTrader: (1) Posts: 219 Rep Power: 17	Auto s5 belts to manual s4 belts Whats your option on this swap ? I know its all factory equipment. I my auto belts work and everything I just not into them. I like the manual feeling. I have a blue set with the full interior from a S4. Now my friend has a pair of manual s5 belts from a vert that are black. So what your take blue or black manual belts ? __________________ Currently running: 90 GTUs converted to S5 TurboII. Track car. 90 N/A GTUs.. Running project car 89 N/A GTUs in Black #2 10/6/18 Blown coolant seal undergoing rebuild and restomod.

09-15-2009, 09:33 PM	#7
Rx-7fetish Blue Blur Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Windsor iTrader: (0) Posts: 211 Rep Power: 0	Dont know about vert belts in a coupe car, but a buddy of mine bought a coupe belt from me and put it in a vert. I dont see why it wouldnt work the other way around

09-16-2009, 05:06 PM	#10
Turbo II Zoom Freaking Zoom Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NC iTrader: (0) Posts: 324 Rep Power: 17	As long as Mazda keeps fixing them for free for me I'll stay with the auto belts on the turbo. I am curious how you'll mount them in the car, not that familiar with the S4 coupe interior. I do know my Vert belt is always in the way since it never retracts like it's suppose to when you loosen or undo it, guess I should fix that. __________________ 1988 RX-7 Convertible 1991 RX-7 Turbo 2004 RX-8 GT 1985 RX-7 GSL - Sold

09-23-2009, 09:54 PM	#11
Raleighrx7 Pistons are for Pussies! Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Grantsville UT iTrader: (0) Posts: 16 Rep Power: 0	Why not just install some race seats and harnesses? They are much more comfortable, but a hassle to put on everytime, but you sure feel safe in them! __________________

09-29-2009, 08:26 PM	#12
BigIslandSevens Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver, NC iTrader: (0) Posts: 201 Rep Power: 17	^^^Because a harness without a HANS type device is asking for a cranial injury like Earhardt's. Same rational for having full cages in street cars. Not a good idea. I swapped the FC over to manual and all it took was time, interior paint and about 15 bucks for all the trim panels, belts and hardware from Pull apart.

09-30-2009, 01:23 AM	#13
Rotary#10 Rotorhead Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: "the town " Oakland iTrader: (1) Posts: 219 Rep Power: 17	i picked up some vert belts and the assembly today along with some other parts I needed. __________________ Currently running: 90 GTUs converted to S5 TurboII. Track car. 90 N/A GTUs.. Running project car 89 N/A GTUs in Black #2 10/6/18 Blown coolant seal undergoing rebuild and restomod.

10-08-2009, 12:35 PM	#14
Rotary#10 Rotorhead Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: "the town " Oakland iTrader: (1) Posts: 219 Rep Power: 17	lol why I picked up a friend monday night and she got out of the car and the belt got stuck after she closed the door in the middle of the rail on the door. haha, then the next morning i opened the door and it worked with no problems. hehe I still swaped them over in about 3hrs. __________________ Currently running: 90 GTUs converted to S5 TurboII. Track car. 90 N/A GTUs.. Running project car 89 N/A GTUs in Black #2 10/6/18 Blown coolant seal undergoing rebuild and restomod.