FC3S Murray's never ending build.

[FC3S Murray]

Goose is my favorite. Nice choice. I recently had some TX Vodka that was like 120 proof.... ridiculous.... expecially the things that it allowed me to do

I feel you on the 120 proof. Now if I could only get my wife to drink that, then the possibilities are endless

Purchased a rotor from Kevin Landers today, so that will be in next week.

All I have left is: to get my short block seal kit, oil control rings, side seals and some racing springs from RA. BDC is done porting my rear iron and should be recieving my intermediate and front from Japan2La soon.

Should be able to wrap all that stuff up next paycheck.

I just sent out my first mortgage check today.......good feeling granted the amount of ink I had to lay down on the "dollar" section of the check.

Lets hope I can get this stacked before August

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

I feel you on the 120 proof. Now if I could only get my wife to drink that, then the possibilities are endless

Purchased a rotor from Kevin Landers today, so that will be in next week.

All I have left is: to get my short block seal kit, oil control rings, side seals and some racing springs from RA. BDC is done porting my rear iron and should be recieving my intermediate and front from Japan2La soon.

Should be able to wrap all that stuff up next paycheck.

I just sent out my first mortgage check today.......good feeling granted the amount of ink I had to lay down on the "dollar" section of the check.

Lets hope I can get this stacked before August[/QUOTE]

August! It's a shame you live so far away Sean, I'd beat your ass if I could Then I'd help out with those flipp'in clearances and get you back on the road before mid July....... You don't happen to have a really big truck with a car transport and a longing to visit the East Coast do you?

[FC3S Murray]

It's a shame you live so far away Sean, I'd beat your ass if I could Then I'd help out with those flipp'in clearances and get you back on the road before mid July....... You don't happen to have a really big truck with a car transport and a longing to visit the East Coast

Haha, family first you silly fuck. I am moving as fast as I can BUT for now I am chilling on vacation sip'in on a cold beer. Laura called me back and sent me some racing springs so I am almost there.

BTW, Halomar or just Petro???

[TitaniumTT]

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

Haha, family first you silly fuck.

Yeah yeah yeah, sometimes being "single" has it's advantages. I can devote all my time, energy, blood, sweat and other bodily fluids to my Most Ungreatful Mistress if I so choose, or I can devote it to the other

Originally Posted by FC3S Murray

I am moving as fast as I can BUT for now I am chilling on vacation sip'in on a cold beer. Laura called me back and sent me some racing springs so I am almost there.

BTW, Halomar or just Petro???

Cool, I actually got all my seals in yesterday and the injectors showed up today. My Cryo'ed parts won't be ready until Tuesday though. So all that means is more time on the water. It'll be a welcomed distraction.

I use vaseline on the irons in the grooves for the water and gas seals. Then I put a VERY thin layer of Hylomar around the housing being VERY careful as to how much I apply and even more importantly, where. You'll see what I mean. Basically you don't want the Hylomar squeezing out into the housings and contacting apex seals. Also, head down to the local chandlery store and see if they have some epoxy syringes. Pack that bitch full of vaseline, you silly fuck , and use that to apply the vaseline to the the grooves. Works wonders. Way better than using your mitts to get it in there.

BTW - those housings show up yet?

[vex]

Both? Hymlar on the lower portion of the housings and petro on the O-Ring/Fire rings. That's if you're going by factory spec.

[vex]

I wish I knew where to pick up those syringes when I was rebuilding mine. Major pita getting the vaso off my hands. Made me want to go spank my monkey in the corner... or maybe I should have done that on the housings?

[TitaniumTT]

A tip though if you plan on putting the hylomar on the housings as well is to put the dowel pins in first, then slide the housing over the dowel pins. This way you won't accidentally pull a seal out of the groove by it sticking to the hylomar

[FC3S Murray]

Thanks for the tips guys.

VEX- I feel ya on the petro all over your hands. When I assisted in a couple builds years ago, I remember getting assigned that bitch job and afterwards I grabbed my beer to sit back and watch and the damn thing slipped out my hand, fell into a oil drip pan and splashed 10w-30 all over my cousins FD.


BDC sent me a pic text of his port job on my rear iron. Looks great and can't wait for further inspection.

I am off to go wake board, you all have a fun and safe 4th and Brian, make sure you spare some of that attention and bodily fluids for your girl........they tend to get jealous from time to time. Just ask my wife.

[TitaniumTT]

No worries Sean The vasoline is quite a PITA. THe syringes I buy are fine enough to actually get it in the side seal groove as well.

Generally what I do also, because so much cripe sticks to the vasloine, is clearance all the rotors last. So the vasoline isn't sitting static collecting dust and dirt. Or, if I clearance everything but need to wait a day or two, I'll set everything with no vaso, and keep everything together with rubber bands. Then dissasemble, apply the vaso, then start stacking.

One more tip that I find eases starting - use both engine oil and 2-stroke oil when building the engine. Use the engine oil on the bearings, and between the side seals including the oil control rings. Use the 2-stroke where it can burn. It seems to really help in the starting. Even though you're cranking for a good minute maybe in 7 second bursts to get oil pressure up, check timing, check for leaks, etc etc, they still seems to start up MUCH quicker when I use the two stroke oil in the combustion area. Makes alot of sense too.

[WE3RX7]

Tons of good build tips in this thread

[TitaniumTT]

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[FC3S Murray]

Well clearancing side seals takes FOREVER!! Worth it though, I think I will go for .003

Now I don't know if this is a rumor but sometime ago I heard that you shouldn't use petro jelly on a rebuild if it is gonna stay static for a week or two due to swelling? Anyone confirm this, and if true what do you use?

[TitaniumTT]

You can use the vaso nastiness on all the hard metal seals. Where you don't want to use it is on any of the soft seals. The water seals, the o-rings, things like that. The seals will actually absord the vaso and swell to the point where they cannot be used. Leaving it on clearanced rotors is fine though, I would just put them in a bag to keep them clean though.

[FC3S Murray]

OK. Why the fuck does the FSM insist on using petro on the o-rings and water seals? So just install the water seals dry then?

BTW Brian, I still ahven't recieved the housings. You have a tracking number by chance. Thanks bro.

[TitaniumTT]

I think the FSM says to use the vaso bacuase they are assuming that the engine is going to be assembled immediately.

I wouldn't put the gas/water seals in dry, I just wouldn't put the vaso on the irons until you're ready to assemble the engine.

I've got the tracking number. Lemme grab it and see what's going on with that. The went out last friday. I understand there was a holiday involved but gimme a flippin break.

BTW - that vid will be in the mail on Thursday. It kinda covers what we're talking about here.