FC3S Murray's never ending build.

FC3S Murray · 04-29-2009, 07:47 PM

Hi all,

I HATE to do this but my build thread is in the "other" forum. I figured if anyone is interested, by all means take a peak. I will continue to update on this forum as well.

http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=694027

I have it up on jack stands right now fixing a coolant issue that I should have known better to "rig". I will have it back on the road by next weekend and am planning on hitting the dyno late May or mid June.

Here are a couple pics of the "finished" product(quotations because it is ever changing

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FC3S Murray · 04-29-2009, 07:52 PM

I am a HUGE S4 tail fan!

Engine...

Current set-up with a couple extra goodies

interior

Thanks for looking and as I promised, updates will be here too. Cheers!

Fidelity101 · 04-29-2009, 08:10 PM

that is a sexy blue!

WE3RX7 · 04-29-2009, 08:25 PM

Nice color, very clean... what color is that?

I dont want to jump to the "other" forum to read the entire thing, lol..

FC3S Murray · 04-29-2009, 08:29 PM

Thanks. It is 1999 Honda SI Electron Blue with a Ferrari/Glasurit clear.

rotorhead87 · 04-29-2009, 08:51 PM

Damn I love your car! I've been looking at your car ever since I signed up to 7club. I think I remember asking what tire size your were running out the back. 265 right?

REVIT93RX7 · 04-30-2009, 06:08 AM

Very clean car. Looks superb!

RCCAZ 1 · 04-30-2009, 08:57 AM

Wow FC3S Murray.... the attention to detail is impeccable. Great job. Great choices on everything in the engine bay and the final product really shows how time and attention to detail pays off! Extremely clean ride!

FC3S Murray · 04-30-2009, 10:49 AM

Thanks guys!

Viperx7 · 04-30-2009, 05:50 PM

Great looking car. Love the color.

FC3S Murray · 05-05-2009, 09:09 PM

Update: Bad news sort of....

I have a hair line crack at the dowel casting on my rear iron. It is slowly seaping oil, about a drip every 30 seconds. I was in denial at first and I replaced o-rings on my pedistal, sealed the Oil Pressure port, ect. But i watched it seap from the casting and I just uttered, "F*CK!"

It IS the S4 rear iron so I guess it just can't take even 360 whp. So sad because I just was about to dyno.

GOOD NEWS is I am going to order a brand new rear iron from Mazdatrix and from what Kevin Landers told me Mazda will send me with the iron with the BEEFIER casting. Kevin says he hasn't ordered a S4 rear iron BUT S5 he has and it was beefier.

So I will take the engine out, pull the bad iron CAREFULLY, trace the port job since I have no template, Port the new one, put in new water seals and o-ring and original side seals. Kinda risky but this is my ONLY option right now. Mazdatrix and Racing Beat techs told me today that they have done the procedure and both stated, "just don't move the engine around a lot once tension bolts are removed."

Gonna be a while before she is back on the road due to moving in to a new house we bought BUT never the less this still isn't as BAD AS A BLOWN engine.

Will update wiith pictures during the removal and install. F*ck me sideways man!

FC3S Murray · 05-06-2009, 12:21 PM

Just ordered a new S4 13BT rear iron from Mazdatrix.

Mazdatrix confirmed that Mazda does send a new unit with the beefier casting, so I will only have to port the new iron as opposed to having to deal with buying a S5 rear iron and enlarging the rest of my S4 ports to comply with the 1/8 '' S5 larger port.

Mazdatrix recommended that I buy a new rear rotor housing since they state all cracked rear iron motors "oval" the dowel hole area on the rear rotor housing.

I am skeptical since I do not push high boost and the rear iron did not explode on me.

I requested some measurements from them regarding limits on the rear housing since the FSM does not specify in the ENGINE secition and the TECHNICAL INFO section as well.

I am awaiting a response.

Stay tuned

FC3S Murray · 05-06-2009, 08:22 PM

Mazdatrix got back to me and said there is no measurement check because mazda wasn't expecting people to push these little pea shooters this hard.

To sum it up they said if there is any wiggle in the dowel pin once i remove the rear iron, the rear rotor housing should be replaced.

I also am going to measure the hole with a caliper and see if it is uniform.

Man, I am slowly losing patience with rotaries. This isn't my first time either, this would be engine # 6 if this one dies. 1 a year: 3 to mechanical failure, 2 to stupidity and 1 to TOO much power. haha.

***TitaniumTT*** · 05-06-2009, 09:48 PM

Spring is out and the rotaries are popping like the spring time flowers. Sorry to hear about the iron, look at it this way, a few hundred bucks and you can push more power

BTW....... LOVE the color, LOVE the tails

FC3S Murray · 05-06-2009, 10:50 PM

Thanks man. Your color is great and unique. I need not mention the tails since "our kind" are slanderized for such hideous 80's tail light obsession.

I HOPE this is jsut a remove and replace job. If that rear rotor housing is fucked so is my hope to have it out this summer. With the new mortgage, a rebuild is gonna take enough time and money to let damn old man winter rear his ugly head again up here in Montana by the time I am finished.

Wife and daughter make free time very very slim.

04-29-2009, 07:47 PM	#1
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	FC3S Murray's never ending build...ending in a V8 Hi all, I HATE to do this but my build thread is in the "other" forum. I figured if anyone is interested, by all means take a peak. I will continue to update on this forum as well. http://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=694027 I have it up on jack stands right now fixing a coolant issue that I should have known better to "rig". I will have it back on the road by next weekend and am planning on hitting the dyno late May or mid June. Here are a couple pics of the "finished" product(quotations because it is ever changing ) __________________ Same pig, new soul Last edited by FC3S Murray; 08-14-2011 at 12:40 PM..

04-29-2009, 07:52 PM	#2
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	I am a HUGE S4 tail fan! Engine... Current set-up with a couple extra goodies interior Thanks for looking and as I promised, updates will be here too. Cheers! __________________ Same pig, new soul Last edited by FC3S Murray; 04-29-2009 at 07:55 PM..

04-29-2009, 08:10 PM	#3
Fidelity101 Reliable Source Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Michigan/Illinois iTrader: (1) Posts: 336 Rep Power: 17	that is a sexy blue! __________________ My Rx-7 Vids

04-29-2009, 08:29 PM	#5
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	Thanks. It is 1999 Honda SI Electron Blue with a Ferrari/Glasurit clear. __________________ Same pig, new soul Last edited by FC3S Murray; 05-17-2009 at 11:55 PM..

04-29-2009, 08:51 PM	#6
rotorhead87 Rotors > Pistons Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Florida iTrader: (0) Posts: 316 Rep Power: 17	Damn I love your car! I've been looking at your car ever since I signed up to 7club. I think I remember asking what tire size your were running out the back. 265 right? __________________ *UPDATED 06/15/2009* Check out My VMIC Turbo 13B-RE FC3S build

04-29-2009, 08:25 PM	#4
WE3RX7 RCC Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: VA iTrader: (1) Posts: 1,812 Rep Power: 18	Nice color, very clean... what color is that? I dont want to jump to the "other" forum to read the entire thing, lol..

04-30-2009, 06:08 AM	#7
REVIT93RX7 REVIT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Palm Bay, FL iTrader: (0) Posts: 90 Rep Power: 17	Never Ending Build Very clean car. Looks superb!

04-30-2009, 08:57 AM	#8
RCCAZ 1 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ iTrader: (0) Posts: 288 Rep Power: 17	Wow FC3S Murray.... the attention to detail is impeccable. Great job. Great choices on everything in the engine bay and the final product really shows how time and attention to detail pays off! Extremely clean ride!

04-30-2009, 10:49 AM	#9
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	Thanks guys! __________________ Same pig, new soul

04-30-2009, 05:50 PM	#10
Viperx7 Rotary Fanatic Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Richmond, KY iTrader: (2) Posts: 322 Rep Power: 17	Great looking car. Love the color. __________________ Mike Chrisman 83 Rx7 Turbo 85 Rx7 GS 89 Rx7 GTU http://www.cardomain.com/ride/409797 "Don't apoligize for being Patriotic, F**k 'em. TK"

05-05-2009, 09:09 PM	#11
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	Update: Bad news sort of.... I have a hair line crack at the dowel casting on my rear iron. It is slowly seaping oil, about a drip every 30 seconds. I was in denial at first and I replaced o-rings on my pedistal, sealed the Oil Pressure port, ect. But i watched it seap from the casting and I just uttered, "FCK!" It IS the S4 rear iron so I guess it just can't take even 360 whp. So sad because I just was about to dyno. GOOD NEWS is I am going to order a brand new rear iron from Mazdatrix and from what Kevin Landers told me Mazda will send me with the iron with the BEEFIER casting. Kevin says he hasn't ordered a S4 rear iron BUT S5 he has and it was beefier. So I will take the engine out, pull the bad iron CAREFULLY, trace the port job since I have no template, Port the new one, put in new water seals and o-ring and original side seals. Kinda risky but this is my ONLY option right now. Mazdatrix and Racing Beat techs told me today that they have done the procedure and both stated, "just don't move the engine around a lot once tension bolts are removed." Gonna be a while before she is back on the road due to moving in to a new house we bought BUT never the less this still isn't as BAD AS A BLOWN engine. Will update wiith pictures during the removal and install. Fck me sideways man! __________________ Same pig, new soul

05-06-2009, 12:21 PM	#12
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	Just ordered a new S4 13BT rear iron from Mazdatrix. Mazdatrix confirmed that Mazda does send a new unit with the beefier casting, so I will only have to port the new iron as opposed to having to deal with buying a S5 rear iron and enlarging the rest of my S4 ports to comply with the 1/8 '' S5 larger port. Mazdatrix recommended that I buy a new rear rotor housing since they state all cracked rear iron motors "oval" the dowel hole area on the rear rotor housing. I am skeptical since I do not push high boost and the rear iron did not explode on me. I requested some measurements from them regarding limits on the rear housing since the FSM does not specify in the ENGINE secition and the TECHNICAL INFO section as well. I am awaiting a response. Stay tuned __________________ Same pig, new soul

05-06-2009, 08:22 PM	#13
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	Mazdatrix got back to me and said there is no measurement check because mazda wasn't expecting people to push these little pea shooters this hard. To sum it up they said if there is any wiggle in the dowel pin once i remove the rear iron, the rear rotor housing should be replaced. I also am going to measure the hole with a caliper and see if it is uniform. Man, I am slowly losing patience with rotaries. This isn't my first time either, this would be engine # 6 if this one dies. 1 a year: 3 to mechanical failure, 2 to stupidity and 1 to TOO much power. haha. __________________ Same pig, new soul

05-06-2009, 09:48 PM	#14
*TitaniumTT* Test Whore - Admin Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Right Behind you son iTrader: (4) Posts: 4,581 Rep Power: 10	Spring is out and the rotaries are popping like the spring time flowers. Sorry to hear about the iron, look at it this way, a few hundred bucks and you can push more power BTW....... LOVE the color, LOVE the tails __________________ -The Angry Stig- DGRR 2009, 2011, 2012 & 2013 - Best FC DEALS GAP!! WOOHOOOO!!!!! 2015 Audi S4 - Samantha - Zero Brap S4 2004 RX8 - Jocelyn - 196rwhp, 19mpg fuel to noise converter 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport - Wifey mobile - Now with 2.5" OME lift and 30" BFG AT KO's! So it begins 1998 Jeep Cherokee - 5 spd, 4" lift, 33" BFG's - Rotary Tow Vehicle 1988 'Vert - In progress 1988 FC Coupe - Gretchen -The attention whore BEAST! I'm a sick individual, what's wrong with you? I'm pure Evil I'm still insane, in the best possible way. I think Brian's idea of romance is using lube. Your rage caused the meteor strike in Russia. The Antichrist would be proud of his minion. You win with your thread. Most everything It's a truck with a steel gate on the back. Just a statement of fact Motec M820, AIM dash, ported 13B-RE Cosmo, 6-spd trans, 4.3 Torsen, custom twin wg fully divided mani, Custom 4" split into 2x 3" exhaust, Custom HMIC, Custom custom custom custom I like to welder stuff.... No Bolt-ons allowed. Dyno'ed @ Speed1 Tuned by me - 405rwhp on WG.... WM50 cuming soon. *-Angry Motherfcker Mode ENGAGED-**

05-06-2009, 10:50 PM	#15
FC3S Murray frustrated! Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montana iTrader: (3) Posts: 611 Rep Power: 16	Thanks man. Your color is great and unique. I need not mention the tails since "our kind" are slanderized for such hideous 80's tail light obsession. I HOPE this is jsut a remove and replace job. If that rear rotor housing is fucked so is my hope to have it out this summer. With the new mortgage, a rebuild is gonna take enough time and money to let damn old man winter rear his ugly head again up here in Montana by the time I am finished. Wife and daughter make free time very very slim. __________________ Same pig, new soul